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does anyone know if they are stopping the nightlies and working on cm7? there haven't been any new ones for any model since the 17th
That's why they have stopped them. Cyanogen said that they are all working hard on Gingerbread, so it's only logical that they would stop all work on Froyo
do you think there's any more froyese to be made or is that a moot point as everything is just dumped into gingerbread? Especially now that drivers are completely different with gb?
Also I reckon once the full base is laid people will bring GB features back into froyo for the dream and other smaller devices. Or a mosh.
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androidcues said:
do you think there's any more froyese to be made or is that a moot point as everything is just dumped into gingerbread? Especially now that drivers are completely different with gb?
Also I reckon once the full base is laid people will bring GB features back into froyo for the dream and other smaller devices. Or a mosh.
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I'm sure most devs there will still be small updates being made to the current ROMs already out, like Enom for example. He usually releases stock ROMs with some modifications or themes, for the most part. I don't see him releasing a GB rom until the official rolls out.
Keep in mind Sense ROMs don't even factor into this. They are two different things.
Cyanogen on the other hand, won't make another update to CM6, at least for the G2 IMO. He always pushes to have the greatest and latest on our phones, hence his push for GB.
As to you mentioning people porting over features to Froyo, that may very well be true, but for the most part, I don't think much of that will happen. The Android reps from Google said that any phone that officially runs Froyo now, will run better on GB. I can only deduce that phones will run better running 2.3.
Now, while the G1 did not see a 2.2 update due to hardware requirements, the MT3G did see an official release, which is for the most part a G1 with more internal memory and lacks a keyboard. I hope that this will bring a great improvement to the device speed, and knowing Cyanogen, he will for sure bring it over to the G1.
Just my 2 cents.
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Cyanogen on the other hand, won't make another update to CM6, at least for the G2 IMO. He always pushes to have the greatest and latest on our phones, hence his push for GB.
As to you mentioning people porting over features to Froyo, that may very well be true, but for the most part, I don't think much of that will happen. The Android reps from Google said that any phone that officially runs Froyo now, will run better on GB. I can only deduce that phones will run better running 2.3.
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I somewhat disagree with your point about CM6. Although all the devs are working very hard to bring GB to the G2, I don't believe Cyanogen or anyone else has said that there won't be another CM6 update. That doesn't mean they will but, imho, I think there may be at least one more update to CM6 for the G2. At least I hope so!
I do believe in the possibility of another experimental update coming to other devices maybe, but Cyanogen said himself on twitter to AndroidSpin that there will be no further stable releases for CM6 due to Gingerbread's release.
That's not to say that others of TeamDouche who manage other devices won't keep CM6 alive for a little while longer, at least.
I have tried numerous custom 2.3 roms but each one eventually causes me a headache in the end. I honestly do appreciate all the hard work going into these roms but unless somebody can point me in the direction of a 99.9% troublefree 2.3 I will have to stick to 2.2 for the time being.
no, 2.3 is not officially out yet, i know the roll out time in the UK as at some point at the end of the year (after all the naff branding the carriers have to put on them)
end of this month (or sometime in the next few months) is the most proposed theory at the moment.
when the official 2.3 release/RUU etc. comes out that'll probably lead to a few more stable roms IMO
AdamG's Oxygen and his DevNull have both been 100% trouble free for me.. Tried one of those?
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AdamG's Oxygen and his DevNull have both been 100% trouble free for me.. Tried one of those?
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I agree, Oxygen is best Rom I've flashed
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I'm running CM7 and have no complaints whatsoever!! It's very customizable, has some great goodies and is very smooth and fast! And upgradable with no wipes!!
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AdamG's Oxygen and his DevNull have both been 100% trouble free for me.. Tried one of those?
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How long have you been using it for if you don't mind me asking? Do all apps work well once installed? No freeze problems?
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I agree, Oxygen is best Rom I've flashed
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How long have you been using the rom if you don't mind me asking? It's just after a week or 2 I start getting problems with gingerbread roms.
Gingerbread update for Desire by the end of May
"Three, a carrier based in UK has responded to one of its customers saying that the Gingerbread update for Desire would arrive by the end of May on their carrier locked phones." If that's true we should have it here on xda soon
source: Finally! An ETA on HTC Desire Gingerbread Update
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I have tried numerous custom 2.3 roms but each one eventually causes me a headache in the end. I honestly do appreciate all the hard work going into these roms but unless somebody can point me in the direction of a 99.9% troublefree 2.3 I will have to stick to 2.2 for the time being.
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Have you tried CM7? Pretty damn stable and fast, no problems on my Telus Desire.
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I have tried numerous custom 2.3 roms but each one eventually causes me a headache in the end. I honestly do appreciate all the hard work going into these roms but unless somebody can point me in the direction of a 99.9% troublefree 2.3 I will have to stick to 2.2 for the time being.
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The popular stock android roms out right now are very stable and if you do happen to find a bug, there's usually aa update within the week to fix it.
I'm running ReflexS 2.0.7 and it's actually running very fast considering that it's running sense. I'm running it with cm7 hboot but it worked great with stock hboot too. I find that you really just have to try a few roms to try and get a feel for which one works best with your phone and your needs.
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"Three, a carrier based in UK has responded to one of its customers saying that the Gingerbread update for Desire would arrive by the end of May on their carrier locked phones." If that's true we should have it here on xda soon
source: Finally! An ETA on HTC Desire Gingerbread Update
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I wouldn't bet on the end of may.
They have always been mentioning end of month but june, not may.
Its about time for the update to come out we waited so long now and all other models have gotten just do it already im sick of waiting.
Honestly, if you don't mind losing Sense, then AdamG's Oxygen and Devnull are top of the shop. Both updated now to 2.3.4 and as hack-free as possible.
DevNull is as plain-jane as you can get, I personally prefer the extended power controls and pull-down notifications menu on Oxygen.
I've been using Oxygen since the first 2.3 build (since end of February) and have had one restart in that time and no freezes.
I have it running with LauncherPro 0.86 and it is smooth, bug-free and has very good battery over Froyo stock. I hammer it with wifi browsing, couple of hours of mp3 a day and my office has terrible signal. I generally finish the day on 40%+.
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Honestly, if you don't mind losing Sense, then AdamG's Oxygen and Devnull are top of the shop. Both updated now to 2.3.4 and as hack-free as possible.
DevNull is as plain-jane as you can get, I personally prefer the extended power controls and pull-down notifications menu on Oxygen.
I've been using Oxygen since the first 2.3 build (since end of February) and have had one restart in that time and no freezes.
I have it running with LauncherPro 0.86 and it is smooth, bug-free and has very good battery over Froyo stock. I hammer it with wifi browsing, couple of hours of mp3 a day and my office has terrible signal. I generally finish the day on 40%+.
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Honestly now, if a person doesnt mind not having Sense why the hell would they buy an HTC? There are much more options on the market with superior hardware and many of them cheaper and as reliable as the Desire...
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Honestly now, if a person doesnt mind not having Sense why the hell would they buy an HTC? There are much more options on the market with superior hardware and many of them cheaper and as reliable as the Desire...
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Haha lol buy a phone like lg optimus or something
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Honestly now, if a person doesnt mind not having Sense why the hell would they buy an HTC? There are much more options on the market with superior hardware and many of them cheaper and as reliable as the Desire...
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Well, when the Desire came out at first it was the best Android device around.
Add to that Sense is the least bad of all the custom UIs out there.
And like me, they might not have tried an AOSP rom until after having a Desire for a while.
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Well, when the Desire came out at first it was the best Android device around.
Add to that Sense is the least bad of all the custom UIs out there.
And like me, they might not have tried an AOSP rom until after having a Desire for a while.
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I agree with you.Word.
Leedroid 3.06 works very well as stock gingerbread with sense, i used it for a while with no issues. But.... my absolute favorite which has not given any issues is insertcoin 1.05 stock. it uses cm7 boot and ultra stable
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Well, when the Desire came out at first it was the best Android device around.
Add to that Sense is the least bad of all the custom UIs out there.
And like me, they might not have tried an AOSP rom until after having a Desire for a while.
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Spot on
Hey guys, it's been a while since I set foot in here and am behind on all the latest ROMs. I browsed the first few pages of development and perhaps I missed it but I'm looking for a ROM that is based off the official 2.3 build, but has Sense stripped out of it, so it still has working 4G but none of that crappy Sense bloat. I know there was a froyo ROM like that (Vael or Mik perhaps?) but I want to make the upgrade to Gingerbread. Been running MIUI forever and want to try something else. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA.
Not sure exactly what you asking for. Is it supposed to not be based on sense at all? If so go with OMFGB you can Google it and find it. I'm not trying to look for a link right now. I've run it and its a great 2.3 build based on Vanilla. I don't run it because I like sense 2.1 which is in the Ginger ale rom
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Sense 2.1/3.0 is not the same as Sense 1.0.
You should give it a shot. With the GB added in, it's really pretty nice.
I really am not interested in Sense at all. I am a LauncherPro guy so having Sense on it is pointless. What I am interested in is a ROM based off the official OTA that has all the Sense elements stripped out of it. Still uses a Sense kernel, still has 4G, but has no Sense. I did a little research and the Froyo equivalent was VaelPak, but it doesn't look like he has a GB build yet.
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I really am not interested in Sense at all. I am a LauncherPro guy so having Sense on it is pointless. What I am interested in is a ROM based off the official OTA that has all the Sense elements stripped out of it. Still uses a Sense kernel, still has 4G, but has no Sense. I did a little research and the Froyo equivalent was VaelPak, but it doesn't look like he has a GB build yet.
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Yea try out OMFGB if you don't want sense. It meets all your requirements in the rom , although Hipkat is right, sense 2.1/3.0 it nothing like sense 1.0.
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Yea try out OMFGB if you don't want sense. It meets all your requirements in the rom , although Hipkat is right, sense 2.1/3.0 it nothing like sense 1.0.
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Just looked into it, still isn't quite what I am looking for. It doesn't look like what I want is currently available. Might go with SalvageMod, I've heard good things about it.
I don't think there are any 'senseless' roms of the OTA out yet. Also just for tossing ideas, if you want to try CM7, its on android 2.3.4 now, and with the Tiamat kernel, epic win. Also good seeing ya. And you, leave MIUI??? The Rapture is upon us.
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I don't think there are any 'senseless' roms of the OTA out yet. Also just for tossing ideas, if you want to try CM7, its on android 2.3.4 now, and with the Tiamat kernel, epic win. Also good seeing ya. And you, leave MIUI??? The Rapture is upon us.
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Hey bud! Long time! No rapture yet, Mr. Camping postponed that till October now Haha yeah, I think I'm done with MIUI finally. I really want to take advantage of 4G to tether my iPad 2, and for some reason MIUI has been giving me nothing but problems lately. I really only want to do this once, so I was hoping for a senseless ROM because I'm sure they will be more stable than other GB/AOSP ROMs. Just don't want any more issues. How stable is CM7 now?
Hey do you know if the sense removal scripts work with the latest OTA? I might just do that and call it a day.
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Just looked into it, still isn't quite what I am looking for. It doesn't look like what I want is currently available. Might go with SalvageMod, I've heard good things about it.
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What is the difference between what you are looking for and just installing launcher pro? Then just use TB or root explorer and delete all the sense crap you don't want like all the widgets and such.
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What is the difference between what you are looking for and just installing launcher pro? Then just use TB or root explorer and delete all the sense crap you don't want like all the widgets and such.
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Well there's much more to sense than just the launcher and widgets. It is very deeply ingrained in the ROM. Deleting all that crap is the next best thing, but not ideal for what I want.
Teh_Roxxors is gonna laugh here, but I just made a last minute executive decision to update to the latest MIUI instead. I was just on stock GB Sense for a few minutes, and besides it being completely unbearable, I STILL have no 4G by my house. So, screw it. MIUI GB it is.
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Well there's much more to sense than just the launcher and widgets. It is very deeply ingrained in the ROM. Deleting all that crap is the next best thing, but not ideal for what I want.
Teh_Roxxors is gonna laugh here, but I just made a last minute executive decision to update to the latest MIUI instead. I was just on stock GB Sense for a few minutes, and besides it being completely unbearable, I STILL have no 4G by my house. So, screw it. MIUI GB it is.
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Yeah I was just wondering why it had to be a sense rom... sounds like CM7 would be right up your alley since it doesn't have any sense at all.
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Yeah I was just wondering why it had to be a sense rom... sounds like CM7 would be right up your alley since it doesn't have any sense at all.
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Just because I don't want to deal with stability issues. Every time I flashed CM, I always had reboots regardless of the kernel, same thing with Ultimate Droid. The only AOSP ROM that was ever good to me was MIUI, but even that started to crap out towards the end. I am not as flash happy as I once was, the last ROM I flashed was MIUI 1.1.28 and it was beautiful for a while but lately it had been crapping out ridiculously. I figure if the ROM was Sense based, I wouldn't have those issues. No matter though, I just flashed the latest MIUI GB build and it seems pretty good. It's gorgeous, they have definitely come a long way since 1.1.28, and I think it's going to be pretty stable for me. Though, only time will tell.
Based on the posts I've read, is there really no official stable version of Gingerbread released for the Epic 4G, and are all the GB ROMs buggy?
And I thought that we would be working towards ICS for the Epic 4G...
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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Based on the posts I've read, is there really no official stable version of Gingerbread released for the Epic 4G, and are all the GB ROMs buggy?
And I thought that we would be working towards ICS for the Epic 4G...
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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Android is by far the best medium for end users. But the major hold up is that the source code has been held out by samsung. There was a leak of the source code recently. The rom to look for is Cyanogen. These guys build it from the ground up with no source code. If you really want to try a gingerbread leak . This is a good one. He also has a 2.2 android that is complete no bugs. here is the link to gingerbread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190337
And the link to his 2.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146630
At the moment I am using the beta cyanogen very close to completion. It is 2.3.7 and it runs smooth and fast. There are a few minor bugs like no 4g. The 4g was not a big deal for me as it only covered a small area for me.
Cyanogen link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299621
Let us know if you need more help
Can tell you are new. Gingerbread is still only a leak. However kernel source was released for 2 days. If you look in Development and read the OPs on the ROMs find one based on the released source like the one with Heimdall in the title. They are stable with no reboots.
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I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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Yes... You've got it wrong. Hacking can only get you so far... Major version updates require source from the manufacturers.
If you want timely updates switch to iOS. With Android it's not *when* you're getting updates but *if* you're getting updates.
http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support
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Based on the posts I've read, is there really no official stable version of Gingerbread released for the Epic 4G, and are all the GB ROMs buggy?
And I thought that we would be working towards ICS for the Epic 4G...
I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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I'm currently running ACS' ICS beta rom. The ICS is just a launcher but its nifty. If you want a pretty stable eh17 rom w/o the ICS I used titanium to uninstall the launcher (and the other 2 launchers [beats me]) and used launcher pro plus. Makes for a stable gingy rom. I've also flashed the eh17 honeycomb explosion theme. Looks great and run awesome.
Supposedly nubernal fixes reboots... ill see as soon as I find time to flash
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There's always going to be bugs... Especially when devs start modifying what was most times just crap to begin with.
I strive to put out a stable ROM, but when you want to update something, something else may not always act as it did.
I'm in the midst of getting a second test version out of my ROM... Come back tonight and check it out. If you're into something semi-stock, then you'll like what i have to offer. =)
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I'm new at this, but I thought that Android being open-source means that it would be easier to hack and modify and less reliant on the carriers to release new OS updates. Have I gotten it wrong?
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For the most part, "Android is open source" only applies to device manufacturers, and owners of Google-branded Nexus devices. The latter of which have (nearly) all platform source code available in Git repositories, including instructions for building a source-based ROM for them.
Third-party manufacturers do not release the majority of Android platform code for their devices. Some of this, like custom UI code, is not particularly relevant to us. But other of this, including proprietary kernel modules and userspace drivers for peripherals, is very much relevant. Not having the source to this makes getting full functionality out of source-based ROMs rather difficult. It doesn't help that Samsung's devices are "uniquely different" from HTC and others which makes porting source-based ROMs to them painful to begin with.
Ok... so in other words, to have a stable usable and relatively bug-free release of Android OS, we will need the carriers to release some official version for it?
Not necessarily. However it is often easier to support a new version of Android if the manufactuer provides an update to it.
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Ok... so in other words, to have a stable usable and relatively bug-free release of Android OS, we will need the carriers to release some official version for it?
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No. I've been running GB forever now. Most of the issues were temp slip ups with roms or themes. The only pervasive one in all the leaked based roms is the reboots, which frankly I never found to be as big of a deal as many made it out to be. Our best guess is that it is sleep related, so in other words, it only happens when your phone is sitting untouched.
I had them quite a bit, but really not a big deal.
Install ACS ICS v6, and the nubernel kernel, and the reboots aren't an issue either.
At this point I couldn't care less if the official ever drops. (Not that I think it wont, it's just, also, IMHO, not nearly as large of a concern as some are making it.) To the extent I DO care, it's only because it will probably consolidate the efforts of the devs. Lots of work still being done on Froyo roms, and there's probably some hesitation on getting involved in any particular leak, because you never know when another leak will drop and make everything you're doing outdated.
Edit: This is anecdotal, but most of the "problems" people report are from people who seem to give gingerbread a shot for about 5 seconds. I'm willing to bet most of them restore data, or a titanium backup, from their froyo rom, then attribute any problems to gingerbread being buggy. It's not. It's fine. If anything a lot of the real not-just-whining outrage is over how GOOD it is. (AKA, the leaks are so solid, what's the hold up exactly)
So basically i found this through the news on xda-dev main site :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36
Its how to port Jelly bean to your device, if someone could just do that, we would have jelly bean..right?
could someone with experiences please try it out? Would be kick-ass if it worked!:victory:
We don't have JB because the source hasn't been released; sure, someone can port a JB build to our device but since no drivers have been released it would be buggy as hell. What would be the point of having JB if it rendered your device unusable?
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Simply put, the best luck the Vision/DZ/G2 has of getting JB is if there is an official Rom released for it (or released to hardware that is very very very similar to the phone's own hardware).
Thus why it took a while for any 'decent' ICS roms to show up on the DZ, and even then some stuff still doesn't work as well as gingerbread (i.e.: the camera and other hardware that HTC has not released the source for yet, or may never do so).
So it's going to be a while before you actually see an 'alpha' quality functioning JB rom for Vision/G2/DZ. Especially since HTC has no plans to release ICS for this phone, everything after gingerbread will most likely have to be reverse engineered.
If it was just easy as all that it would have been done already.
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Simply put, the best luck the Vision/DZ/G2 has of getting JB is if there is an official Rom released for it (or released to hardware that is very very very similar to the phone's own hardware).
Thus why it took a while for any 'decent' ICS roms to show up on the DZ, and even then some stuff still doesn't work as well as gingerbread (i.e.: the camera and other hardware that HTC has not released the source for yet, or may never do so).
So it's going to be a while before you actually see an 'alpha' quality functioning JB rom for Vision/G2/DZ. Especially since HTC has no plans to release ICS for this phone, everything after gingerbread will most likely have to be reverse engineered.
If it was just easy as all that it would have been done already.
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Okai, thanks!
So there are rumours going around the the HTC desire HD Will be updated to J-b, so for example (because the devices are..a little bit similar) Someone could work on it.and it might work? Right ?
( HTC said when releasing ICS for some devices that they would not update the Desire Z any more / devices with less than 500 ROM RAM right? )
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( HTC said when releasing ICS for some devices that they would not update the Desire Z any more / devices with less than 500 ROM RAM right? )
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Turns out HTC's own staff are idiots, they're talking bout 512MB RAM or less will not get ICS. ROM wouldn't make much sense, since even the Desire-Z can have either 409MB /system or 549MB /system depending on which hboot used.
The DHD has 768 MB RAM, and the HTC blog already confirms that DHD will get it:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
detailed dates here : http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
July-August for the DHD, June-July for the Desire S
But I'm not sure how much of the hardware components in say the DHD is close to that of the Desire-Z so time will tell.
I guess the idea is the device would need enough ram to run smoothly with a stock ICS possibly Sense-Style and default launcher/etc without any sd-ext, ram tweaks, etc. Though I'm already running ICS on my G2 right now, just lacking a smoother camera functionality (in comparison to when on gingerbread), but can shoot pictures and record videos just fine (Can't think of anything else I'm missing exactly).
Jellybean, probably a long way off.
I disagree. By the time the JB source is out, the 3.0 kernel will be even better and a complete replacement for the 2.6 one we're using now. CM will update to 10 and so will the respective ICS roms we have right now.
The only obstacles would be ones related to project butter, but we need the source first in order to really tell.
I would expect beta quality JB roms by August, assuming the JB source is released in the next few weeks.
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