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Which 2.1 ROM with sense is best?

I have been using 2.2 for a while, and I want to back to a rooted Sense version of 2.1. Any ideas which is best and where to find it? (I tried the development section's list of roms, but could not sort out which are 2.1, which have Sense, etc. Thanks!

Look for Damage Control 3.2.3. Very fast and stable 2.1 rom.
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out of curiosity, what is it about 2.1 that you prefer?

deathsled said:
out of curiosity, what is it about 2.1 that you prefer?
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Seconded. I can't think of any advantage.

Thanks, I will try the Damage one.
I was getting 3x the battery life with 2.1 running the exact same apps I do now. Strange but true.
Anyway I see little real world advantage to 2.2. I know 2.2 is supposed to be faster, better video, yada yada yada, but it feels about the same to me. I am not talking about benchmark test scores, I am talking actual use ;-)

ronnienyc said:
Thanks, I will try the Damage one.
I was getting 3x the battery life with 2.1 running the exact same apps I do now. Strange but true.
Anyway I see little real world advantage to 2.2. I know 2.2 is supposed to be faster, better video, yada yada yada, but it feels about the same to me. I am not talking about benchmark test scores, I am talking actual use ;-)
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ummm WHAT lol good luck with 2.1 its going to get hard locating rom's i think flipz is still supporting 2.1
but i have to say im getting better batt life with 2.2 than i did with 2.1 ( not much but better )

have you tried the newer baked snack 2.2 roms? i get very similar battery life as i did back on 2.1. i know the developer kinda left xda but you can still download the latest public release.

hockey4life0099 said:
have you tried the newer baked snack 2.2 roms? i get very similar battery life as i did back on 2.1. i know the developer kinda left xda but you can still download the latest public release.
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I have to agree bakedsnacks 2.2 are great. Battery life's crazy
From the Fade

Virus Rom gives me great battery life, I know I couldn't go back the update all button for the market makes me smile every time I hit it
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what all have you tried on battery life? have you run thrugh all the battery threads are you using set cpu etc? have you tried a diffrent rom? if you are getting 3x less battery life something is very wrong.

I have actually gone back to my Hero! I much prefer the small size, and I like the trackball vs. the directional keys. Also battery life is way better, and.my Hero does not lag at all. Now, what to do with my Evo...

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i second this.

Permaban requested for ronnie...

That was actually short lived, as the Hero developed an issue with the charging port, so Evo it is.
The only thing I liked more about 2.1 is the battery life (much longer in my experience.) Otherwise on a day-to-day basis, there is not much difference for me. I do not tinker with it endlessly and do bench mark tests, etc. I use phone, email, a lot of web, a handful of apps, etc. and for these purposes 2.2 and 2.1 are very similar IMO.
I am trying Baked Snack and DC 3.2.3 on the Evo today...thanks all.

[Q] Planning to buy this phone

Hey guys i'm planning to buy motorola defy in next month. As i've to stick to this phone for 3 years i want to ask you some questions or clear my doubt. 1. Will this phone get android 2.2? 2. If I flashed with custom rom of 2.2 will adobe flash 10.1 work on it? 3. Is flashing this phone difficult or easy? 4. What about its sound quality? Is it better than galaxy 3 or nokia 5800xm? 5. Will HD games work on this device?

1,2,5: yes
3: easy
4: don't know, didn't have those phones to test the Defy against
There are a few 2.2 leaked ROMs, I'm using one myself and flash is running smoothly. The official update will be released in the second half of this month

Sound quality is good. The Defy is in every respect technically a high-end phone, comparable to Galaxy s i9000, HTC Desire HD.
Galaxy 3 is rather medium-class.
The only negative points IMO are that the screen is very reflective in sunlight and the camera could be better.

And battery performance is VERY unpredictable!!

You mean battery life not good?

Battery life is good comparing to other android phones. It is 2~3 days for normal use.

yes, the screen is a bit reflective, but if you set it bright enough, it's very nice! and battery performance is quite good, i get about 2 days with some gaming and 3G/wifi constantly on! the only thing i'm missing from this phone is full multitouch, as it has only two point mt, which can be disturbing in some games (like tap tap revenge). otherwise it's a very good phone, with great overclock/undervolt potential!
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questions regarding DEFY
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?

They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.

Thank's Guys!
I'll buy a defy tomorrow, and this answers helped me to make my choice (principally
the battery time).

you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now

lanfearxt said:
you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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i agree. great device. the phone is basically a screen and feels light like a dummy phone!

Its one of the smallest android phones with a decent screen.
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My defy has arrived
I'm very excited with the cel. Very satisfying.

time to root and install some custom ROMS!!

Step666 said:
They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
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there is someone with cynogenmod 7 for defy in dev thread, how could it be possible then...really confused about defys potential & ability for custom roms..

One question: what is the last oficial android version? Here in brazil, the last available is 2.1...
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2.2 is already out, ans cm7 using 2.3 will probably get a final stable release version soon

I'm curently running CM7(beta 3) and it's doing pretty well.
Though there are still some things to be fixed, it is definitely an increase of performance and battery life, and will be worth of updating once it is fully stable.

rusty4ever said:
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
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Most of'em are, as abovesaid, pretty much customized standart ROMs.
However, 2nd Init "hack" was recently intoruced, which kinda bypasses locked bootloader. Hence CM7 goodness.
At least you don't have to worry a single bit using DEFy in the rain

[Q] best ROM for defy ?

i need a good rom for long term use suggest me for my DEFY...
i need a rom without bugs or min. bugs....will b also good...
plss help...2.2 is sucking (stock)
Thanx in advanced

asn39 said:
i need a good rom for long term use suggest me for my DEFY...
i need a rom without bugs or min. bugs....will b also good...
plss help...2.2 is sucking (stock)
Thanx in advanced
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CM7 IMO, is the best.

LiquidArc Gingerbread is the best, no FC, no strange reboots, stable work.

bvbfan said:
LiquidArc Gingerbread is the best, no FC, no strange reboots, stable work.
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how abt battery life in j boogie ??
And whats cm7 IMO ?? i know nly cm 7
Thanxxx both users i will see to that

awesome custom rom
bvbfan said:
LiquidArc Gingerbread is the best, no FC, no strange reboots, stable work.
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I dont know how to install but
The rom is extremely good looking hope in performance too it is that way....
Thanx alot man...let me know how long does ur battery last ??
Thanx to both...of u

For me, it is ms2ginger but I see there's now defy+ rom with same features. Maybe I should give it a try...
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For me it's MIUI or even better WajkIUI.

cm7 works without bugs for me
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dbezzegh said:
For me it's MIUI or even better WajkIUI.
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+1 for wajkiui, I just love it!

CM7 - is better, but battery no so long

Cyanogen mod is the best with no doubt
And for the battery you can install a battery saving app
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Looking for recommendations - Roms& other tweaks
Hi, I hope the OP doesn't mind that I borrow this thread a bit, as this is the exact question I wanted to ask.
tl:dr version:
I am really interested in _opinions_ and _details_ wrt different ROMs (mods or stock) - "xxx is best" isn't a very useful answer to a total noob like me.
So, yesterday I bought this lovely piece of hardware. It came unlocked (of course) and with this ROM (there's a thread about it here):
-System version: Moto_Version.34.177.5.Retail.en.ND
-Firmware: 2.2.2
-Baseband: EPU93_U00.59.1
-Kernel: [email protected] #1
-Build: Jorem_U3_2.4.2_177-5
So far I am rather pleasantly surprised with the lack of bloat. But it did seem rather sluggish when I had installed several apps and played around for a few hours - and the list of running process was horrible.
And I have a feeling I will want Gingerbread in short order (my familiarity with Android is confined to a POS chinese Froyo mini-tablet (had to flash the ROM to even get it to work, then I managed to lose the microSD within it... Haven't taken it apart yet) and looking at my husband's new Samsung G2S - he made me solemnly swear not to root, flash or do anything interesting to it before he even let me touch it).
Or will I?
What I want is
- As much control of the hardware as I can get
(re-assigning buttons (like that to me nearly useless search button), easy ways to turn stuff off and on, customisable quick access to all kinds of interestisting stuff that I hardly even know about yet)
- Minimum of "pretty" UI
- Max battery
- Tweaking off things like wifi and other radio reception, maybe touch-screen too (can one even calibrate capacitative screens? I'm old, and tend to keep my stuff for a long time, so all my previous gadgets have been resistive Palms of various flavours).
And simultaneously I also want:
- As little hassle as I can get away with (ie stable core system which won't need frequent updates).
- Best possible customisation of calendar (and integration with google calendar, of course)
I can't believe it took me so long to finally enter the android world! I can't understand why it took me two years to finally do it. The PalmOS I was in mourning for ("I want my apps from 1995! Why did they break it! I also want wifi! Stupid Palm!") really wasn't worth it.
Nota Bene: I am not a coder or a dev on any platform. I'm a middle aged woman who also happens to be rather fearless when it comes phones. I'm not averse to tweaking a line here and there myself (with instructions or understanding), but generally I get bored pretty quickly with tinkering, and then just want things to work the way I want them to work.
Useless questions in the wrong place (just so I don't give the impression I'm too well behaved - loved the registration video ):
- Where is that "thank you"?! (I've used such on other forums, but I must be blind here. ETA: yes I was.)
- What's the best place (here or elsewhere) to read and ask about a) general android architecture/philosophy/etc (ie what's part of the OS, what can be removed)?
- What's the best place to ask the question "which app would be best for this?"?
- What android-centric forum or subforum would best put up with my wordyness?

I can tell in LiquidArc display eats battery, 3h display is on, battery is down. For other roms i don't know, if someone wants to tell...
Look here -> http://modmymobile.com/forums/640-m...liquidarc-gingerbread-v2-0-09-08-11-a-13.html for installguide

Guys, WajkIui or Cmiui? I tried Cmiui and it is quite nice, but can anyone compare those two plz for me?
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CM7 RC1.5 or MIUI 2.3.5b
for me,CM7 RC1.5 with CEE 179.02 take a long time battery

asn39 said:
how abt battery life in j boogie ??
And whats cm7 IMO ?? i know nly cm 7
Thanxxx both users i will see to that
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That guy means CM7. That IMO means "in my opinion".

Proda said:
Guys, WajkIui or Cmiui? I tried Cmiui and it is quite nice, but can anyone compare those two plz for me?
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Never tried Cmiui but Im surE WIUI is better. It updates every week with a lot of tweaks
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actally I see the MIUI ROM too much unstable with Defy. Cyanogen7 is surely better! I love MIUI UI so I hope it goes better asap!
Bye

I've been using CM7 since a couple of months and have been very happy with the stability. (Presently on cm7 rc 1.5) the stock froyo on the other hand was annoyingly unstable and needed frequent reboots to keep it sane.
The battery life is the only grouse - it lasts around 1.5 days with normal usage. On froyo I could easily get upto 2 days.
Cm7s tweaks and customizations make the trade off in battery life worth it, for me.
To each their own I suppose.
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The amount of tweaking and customisation on CM7 is way ahead of any rom I've ever tried and yes I've tried them all literally. You can shuffle every component of the UI and you've got a new phone everyday, hardware performance is as stable as they come, nice amount of useful apps no added garbage.
If you prefer the curved MIUI look there is a theme for that aswell.
CM7 stands in a league of its own IMO. Battery isn't anything above average(lasts me a day of heavy usage on HSPA network) but it isn't a compromise either.
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[Q] Custom ROM vs Stock ROM - is it really that much faster?

I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?

JWhipple said:
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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It's not really about speed. But with a custom ROM you definitely have more customizations possible. You can change the look of the interface, the notification toggles, colors etc. I have the i9100, which is another variant of the SGS2 and I've had ICS for a couple of months now, but it's not getting officially released until this month some time. So, it's not really about speed but rather about the freedom to do other things with it. Some people might cite benchmark tests, and scream that I'm wrong, but the hardware is what makes your phone fast...the software's not at all going to choke that out (whether stock or custom). As far as speed goes, you're probably not going to notice the difference.
Also, though you've got root access which enables you to install apps and do things you just can't do otherwise.
All that said, there are certain advantages to stock. It's often times more stable than something custom. There are ups and downs. If you feel the need to experiment, you can always flash back. Just read a lot before you get your feet wet (it is very possible to brick your device if you muck it up) and you'll be fine.

I don't think so. I'm going to get flamed plenty I'm sure but I don't see much improvement over how my phone performed out of the box. I think the battery life may even have been better before I started flashing stuff.

I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...

JWhipple said:
I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...
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After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.

I didn't think you were new to Android since your account is almost 4 years old so I'd assumed you were familiar with all the "benefits" of rooting. The phone is so nice out of the box I don't think any of the roms are any smoother or better on battery. I think Warfare is probably the best on battery and for me CM7 was easliy the worst. I didn't notice a change in data speed, 2d smoothness, 3d smoothness, battery cover smoothness... Nothing. The device is so nice out of the box and I don't use it for anything other than a phone, text messaging, web browsing, e-mail, Skype, the occasional slicing of fruit or a word or two with friends so I can't comment on all the added functionality all the "super-duper heavy users" of this device probably use on custom roms. The only reason mine is rooted is for an ad host file and the occasional tether.
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sean is here. said:
After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.
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When I had a Fascinate... I was a huge fan of overclocking and undervolting. The same when I had a Thunderbolt. It made everything smoother and the Thunderbolt especially needed help in the battery area. This device just works. No need for anything other than what it came with for me. Obviously that didn't stop me from flashing the development section... But hey, I have a problem.

Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
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JWhipple said:
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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the thing with our device is that it came sooo sick straight out of the box that you don't really need to improve it that much. However, custom ROMs/kernels generally make the ROMs smoother, but not many people notice the difference.
I actually notice that because of the kernels implemented with certain ROMs, our phone is able to RUN just as smooth at a lower clockspeed which saves us battery. Other than that, I don't think Custom ROMs are actually "SMOOTHER" or faster than the stock ROM because Samsung really did well on this phone.

sunlaw2 said:
Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
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I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
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I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
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The main difference is the bloatware which really does make an impact on speed, memory consumption and overall smoothness.

Some rom cook faster, you should choose the rom cook by team have many vote on forum.
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Don't want to root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTgvLPOYLg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?

Karakoram2 said:
Don't want to root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTgvLPOYLg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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What the hell does this have to do with the discussion?

Chochiwpg said:
I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?
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Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.

Problem with SlickMOD is that the dev's T989 broke and he isn't getting another one - so - development has HALTED.

sean is here. said:
Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.
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Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.

Chochiwpg said:
Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.
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Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?

JWhipple said:
Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?
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It's the Stock ROM that came with my phone. I rooted the phone but haven't flashed any custom kernel's or custom ROMs on my phone. I also use Zeam Launcher as opposed to the TW Launcher by default. I have turned off animations, limited my homescreens to 3. I don't use too many widgets and I use an all black background. Also running Juice Defender to help with battery but I don't think that affects performance/speed.
Model Number = SGH-T898D
Android Version = 2.3.5
Baseband Version = T989DTLKJ3
Kernel Version = 2.6.35.11
Build Number = GINGERBREAD.TLKJ3
I don't know if that helps or answers your question. Hope that helps.

I'm willing to bet that the performance gains that are being seen on the Stock ROMs is due to the fact that they are ODEXed. By DeODEXing the ROMs can be customized to the cook's heart's content, but there is a mild performance hit taken.
Thoughts?

Best/recomended MIUI rom?

Hello all.
I've been out the loop for a while now, still got stock sense on my DZ but have recently become very interested in MIUI roms. I have a few quick questions I hope someone can answer as after reading the various roms etc I'm a bit confused.
1. How well do MIUI roms work with the hardware keyboard? I'm seeing a few threads saying it isn't totally supported. This is a deal breaker for me really, can anyone clarify?
2. Which MIUI rom? I see there is an official one, but also others similar to official eg MIUIandroid, any particular 'best' version?
3. How is the battery life compared to sense? Does anyone have any current draw figures for screen off etc, my sense draws around 32mA screen off.
4. I assume they come with overclockable kernels, if so, is OC beater or whatever it's called still the best to use?
I'm interested to hear from MIUI users, sell it to me.

1. I've had no problems while using the keyboard with MIUI, it seems to work the same way as before. I have heard some people say that their backlights don't work but mine do. However, landscape is not supported on the homescreen but it is everywhere else.
2. I use the official english supported rom for Desire Z/G2, you can get it from ROM Manager or the MIUI website. I'm not sure about the best one because I've only used the official one.
I don't know about 3 and 4 but I do enjoy using MIUI. It was the first rom I used after I rooted my phone. I used to want sense but because of emoji support and themes I probably won't use another. I do recommend it as I have not been disappointed.

Thanks for replying.
Instead of exact current figures, maybe you could say what your typical daily use is like and what your battery level is at the end of the day?

I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.

Myrmidon83 said:
Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.
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good luck and enjoy. Give it a couple of charge cycles with the CPU adjusted you should see a significant improvement.
I generally run 900mhz Max with interactive governor.
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i definitely recommend the MIUIandroid version, the translation is far more complete. Miui.us just has faster servers! If you send/receive a bunch of picture messages, I suggest you download my modified Mms.apk from the link in my signature, more info is in that thread.
I've been using MIUI.au v4 for the last few days. pictures are slightly annoying, but if you take two or three, you usually get a good one, but the pictures do have to be taken in landscape.

Well I have been running it for the day and I have to say that I love it! Much better than sense, seems really stable and I love the customisation.
I was going to ask about that mms thing, I'll check the thread out.
As for the battery, it has run down quite quick today but I've been playing with it a lot and expect to need to have a few charge cycles till it settles.
One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?

Myrmidon83 said:
One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?
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Just to give you an answer, I don't know. But it's an AOSP kernel so... it should!

Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.

Take a look at the bulletproof add on pack. It includes some nice tweaks, one being a kernel that supports OCing.
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I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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I will like to second that! Im running a MIUI V4 port by ajhavery and lenny_kano (MIUI_Au 4.0.3 base 2.3.2) and it is working very well. Except my battery life is not as good as the official MIUI ROMS. BTW Angel Camera from the market works perfectly on this ROM with no glitches.

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Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.
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Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.

Myrmidon83 said:
Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.
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1. Bulletproof addon is for ANY 2.3 based miui. NOT miui v4.
2. The chip in dz/g2 is designed to run at 1ghz. Htc just UCed it to save on juice and market it as a lower spec (that's how I understood it anyway). I find at 800 it just feels a touch laggy. That extra 100 takes the edge off.
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Does installing bulletproof clear any data at all?
Is it flashed from recovery?

Shouldn't clear anything. I say shouldn't as you can never guarantee it. I've never had any issues. Always a good idea to clear cache and dalvik when flashing anything. And yes, its flashed in recovery.
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So I flashed this at the weekend and so far all is well.
Though I must admit, I'm not noticing the battery gains I was hoping for, a minimal boost is all. It does kinda seem that it uses more with the screen on than it used to, some comparison figures for those interested, taken using battery monitor widget.
Screen Off
Stock Sense: 31-34mA current draw
MIUI: 28mA Current Draw
Screen On (taken as sitting at homescreen doing nothing)
Stock Sense: 147-190mA
MIUI: 137-230mA
It's probably still calibrating and I never wiped the battery stats. Would there be a benefit in doing so?
Also, I have noticed that when charging, the light goes green when charge is only around 90% done, any news on this?

The light goes green once the battery is > 90%, this is more or less intended behaviour.
There had been a recent announcement by a Google employee that wiping the battery stats has no visible battery life improvement. All it does is wipe the statistics file that shows you what uses your battery. What you can merely do is run the battery down to 20~% (wouldn't go below that as the failsafe might go off) and then back to 100% for 3-4 times, so that the Battery Meter can become more accurate. From there it is ideal to run it down to 20-30% twice every month in order to keep the battery health in good shape.
MIUI was merely created to be iPhone-ish, cool looking, and very user friendly. It looks awesome, inarguably, but battery life isn't it's strong point. I wouldn't be surprised if it draw more than Sense itself, too. ROM's that have the best battery life are barebones. These have a lot of features suppressed in order to save up in RAM as well as battery consumption. There's also little customizing you can do to them.
However, if you want a good battery life ROM that does not cost you anything in features, you should try Tsubus' ILWT CM7 ROM. It is a CyanogenMod 7 based ROM, that has been fine tuned for speed and battery life alike. I've been a user for a long time and the phones takes me easily through a day with plenty of juice left (about 40-50%). You will have to go through the above meter calibration process again.

Yeah I know and don't get me wrong, MIUI gets me through a day no problem, maybe I was just being a bit too hopeful.
Have to say though that I have fallen in love with MIUI, I can't imagine using another rom now.

well if you are looking to use the bulletproof addon then i made a rom myself with some mods included in it... you can check it out from the link in my signature...