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[Q] Why Root phone when I'm on Gingerbread already?

Is there even a point rooting my phone when its already Gingerbread? can someone tell me the general features I can get, and what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks

The point of rooting is to open up a whole new world of customization. Once you root your phone, you can do a lot LOT more with your phone than you can now.
Just look at the choices of roms you'll have.
Believe me, rooting your DHD will be the best thing you'll do to your phone.
And as far as custom roms are concerned, there is no such thing as 'the best rom'.. it all depends on personal choice.

If you like the idea of trying different roms then you'll need to root.
You can get an idea from the screenshots in the ROM threads of how different your phone experience can be with custom roms.
(I started out rooting just for an easier way to take screenshots.)
Here is a page of screenshots from the CyanogenMod 7 rom I had on my phone a while back (plus some other wallpapers). As you can see, it is quite different. It's worth trying different roms if you like to tinker and improve the experience, be it visual, performance or whatever.
It can become an addiction or distraction though, so be warned. Good Luck.

It most certainly can become an addiction and distraction. I've got exams to worry about and my mind keeps going back onto this lol

raze599 said:
It most certainly can become an addiction and distraction. I've got exams to worry about and my mind keeps going back onto this lol
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Amen. Likewise. hahaha.

One word - Customisation.
That's why you should root and try out different ROMs find out the mix that suits you perfectly rather than sticking to what HTC TELLS you you want.

chocolate mousse said:
what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks
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The is no best rom. Each has specific features, so you have to test what works best for you.
Popular roms are Android Revolution HD, CyanogenMod, Leedroid, Rcmix, MIUI, Coredroid etc...

wow , that cyanogenmod actually looks good! Just a couple of questions:- 1) How can i root (lol) 2) Can it be reversed at all? (the ROMs and rooting?)
thats all for now! thanks for everyone whos posted so far

chocolate mousse said:
wow , that cyanogenmod actually looks good! Just a couple of questions:- 1) How can i root (lol) 2) Can it be reversed at all? (the ROMs and rooting?)
thats all for now! thanks for everyone whos posted so far
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Everything is here mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079108
Using the search function is your best friend

chocolate mousse said:
Is there even a point rooting my phone when its already Gingerbread? can someone tell me the general features I can get, and what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks
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With a rooted phone, you can get total control of your phone,
With stock ROMs they have limited some functions, but once you rooted you can get rid of those limitation. For simple example, you cant take screenshots of your phone without rooting.
And secondly you can install custom ROMs on your phone and even overclock your processor.
Hope this helped,
Thanks!

As pointed out, you can overclock your phone. The DHD can run up to 1.9Ghz !
I normaly have mine running anything up to 1.6
Plus overcocking means that the phone can be underclocked for when the screen is off, saving battery.
As for ROM's. I have traditionally always run CyanogenMod as it's a nice, slick, fast experience.
If you try CM, then don't forget how much you can customise your screens using different 'Launcher' apps. I use ADW Ex but Launcher Pro is another popular one and there's plenty more. Most have downloadable themes(skins) too.
Oh, and if you really want some fun, try one of the new full Sense 3.0 rom's to see how fansy sense can get. I'm running Virtious Unity at the moment and it's the first Sense ROM I've run since I first rooted the phone ! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115312
But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive

furrypotato said:
But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive
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Very addicting indeed.. More like, 3 times a day in flashing different roms, just for the sake of showing off to my significant other..

furrypotato said:
As pointed out, you can overclock your phone. The DHD can run up to 1.9Ghz !
I normaly have mine running anything up to 1.6
Plus overcocking means that the phone can be underclocked for when the screen is off, saving battery.
As for ROM's. I have traditionally always run CyanogenMod as it's a nice, slick, fast experience.
If you try CM, then don't forget how much you can customise your screens using different 'Launcher' apps. I use ADW Ex but Launcher Pro is another popular one and there's plenty more. Most have downloadable themes(skins) too.
Oh, and if you really want some fun, try one of the new full Sense 3.0 rom's to see how fansy sense can get. I'm running Virtious Unity at the moment and it's the first Sense ROM I've run since I first rooted the phone ! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115312
But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive
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i rooted two days ago and now im running cm7. best decision i have ever made!! wish id done it a lot sooner. i have a question about overclocking, well, underclocking with cm7. did you use the performance setting within cyanogenmod to adjust the cpu settings or did you use a third party app like setcpu. going to try around 1400 overclock and run whatever the minimum is.
cheers

Best Evo Rom and Kernel bundle???

I will be flashing my first rom and kernel to my Evo, Im just wondering others experience and whats a good fast and stable rom as well as what kernel to add on?? Any input is great,,
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I would argue that it is personal preference. I went through alot of different
Setups. I settled on mikg 2.58 latest sense with aggressive freedom kernel universal.
I am in extreme rural area so I was very picky on battery life. My cell radio is constantly
Boosting its own voltages to get better reception, so i was looking for the absolute best battery life from a ROM. I also am a sense fanboy regardless of critics, b/c the EVO was made for that very reason.
Things to consider...are you in the city? If so most of.the popular stuff will be fine for battery.
Are you a modder, hacker personality. If so spend some time backing up through titanium and and Google sync. So you can test all the ROM.kernels without losing your phone,phone.
If not then look for stability. It is vital to learn about the gereneral process b4 getting started so you don't have a lot of issues.
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Some myths. Every single ROM has a random knucklehead saying its the best battery stability they have ever seen. Don't believe it. They all have strengths and weakness. Further, go for setcpu root and learn it. It's the best and will allow any ROM to be better.
Longwinded, I know. But cm7.cm9 if you like plain vanilla based aosp rom. Mikg if you like sense based rom. Kernel chopsuey or more/aggressive freedom kernel are the best for.battery in my opinion.

I agree with gentlye! This is very much a personal preference. You will most likely spend many days figuring it all out and testing several different setups. One of the first things to figure out is if you want a "Sense" ROM or an "AOSP" ROM. Before getting started with anything though be sure that you know how to make a "nandroid" backup and use it. That will ultimately save you some time and frustration and potential disaster.
I personally am a huge fan of the "gingerbread-evo-deck" ROMs which are AOSP based. My current setup is with "gingerbread-evo-deck [1.3][2.3.7 Stable]" ROM and "Tiamat_Evo-v3.3.7-sbc" Kernel. This setup is very stable, fast, and has great battery life for me. It is a pretty popular setup and most users seem to have good success with it. I highly doubt that I will be changing my ROM again.
Just be sure to do your research and nandroids and all will be fine. Good luck!

Thanks alot ima do some more research i live in a somewhat big city, problem is i dont have much time,, now ive heard depending on what root method u use some roms arent compatible???
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sexykika said:
Thanks alot ima do some more research i live in a somewhat big city, problem is i dont have much time,, now ive heard depending on what root method u use some roms arent compatible???
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I have never heard of that. Once rooted you should be able to flash any ROM you want from recovery I think. And, as long as you have a nandroid backup it is super easy to go back to a previous setup if you don't like the results.

I would have to say Newtoroot's SuperSonic3D XL Beta and Aggresive-Freedom kernel.

Yeah im somewhat new,, at least to evos i was just asking cuz i looked up how to root it and it something about that i just wanted to make sure
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sexykika said:
I will be flashing my first rom and kernel to my Evo, Im just wondering others experience and whats a good fast and stable rom as well as what kernel to add on?? Any input is great,,
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check out the link in my sig

It without a doubt is personal preference. I prefer launcher pro so therefore don't care for sense based ROMs. There is a user at SDX named DC13 who makes ROMs. He posts his ROMs here sometimes as well. Anyway, he has a ROM based off of the old CM7. I used that ROM with savaged zen's kernel and my phone ran GREAT. Battery life was outstanding and performance was good. I can't say enough good things about that ROM. I switched to the new CM7 a week or so ago and am considering goimg back because the battery life is noticeably not as good. I am still testing though.

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It without a doubt is personal preference. I prefer launcher pro so therefore don't care for sense based ROMs. There is a user at SDX named DC13 who makes ROMs. He posts his ROMs here sometimes as well. Anyway, he has a ROM based off of the old CM7. I used that ROM with savaged zen's kernel and my phone ran GREAT. Battery life was outstanding and performance was good. I can't say enough good things about that ROM. I switched to the new CM7 a week or so ago and am considering goimg back because the battery life is noticeably not as good. I am still testing though.
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maybe you should check out decks gb rom, click on the link in my sig to see different roms and kernels

I nominate CM7/Xplod with tiamat 4.1 or 3.3.7.

Stock vs custom: huge dilema.

I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.

stupidslow02gt said:
I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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try stock, try custom.. then let us know whats best for you. choice, my friend, is a wonderful thing

it wont hurt anything to try a custom rom, you can always go back to stock

Have you guys tried the Gummy ROM or lean kernel? Any tips to avoid any of the problems I mentioned such as shutter lag or UI lag?

I had this issue with the GNEX. I have kept it stock so far. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and made a few UI changes and a differnt kernal.
I'm happy with it for now. Who knows what future will hold.

did the stock thing (with a few root mods like battery, menu button, brightness) for a couple months, then loaded up AOKP + leankernel and love the customization and battery life
will not go back to stock

If your device does what you want it to RIGHT NOW, then stay stock. If there are features that you want and only a custom rom can provide, then try a ROM, but be aware that custom kernels and ROMS can break some functions on your phone.
I was using CM7 on my previous android phone and lost the ability to receive voicemail notifications because of it.
Decide if you need "more", but accept any risks that come up because of it.

I suggest you try out AOKP ROM for the additional features and GUI settings. I also use franco. kernel for superior battery life and a noticeable speed increase.
It's a fantastic combo.
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I suggest you try out AOKP ROM for the additional features and GUI settings. I also use franco. kernel for superior battery life and a noticeable speed increase.
It's a fantastic combo.
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+1 for aokp + franco , they are awesome.

Excuse my noobyness but isnt AOKP just a stock untouched firmware? Or is that AOSP.
Just looked up the franco kernel and have read nothing but good things.

Nadroid - flash = see for yourself. I also recommend AOKP M3. And stock has bugs also. The only ROM that ever rebooted on me, was stock. So. Nothing is perfect that is why we like to change everything.

I'm using stock still, but rooted and using a modified status bar transparent. I plan to switch to custom but just taking my time. You can easily just nand backup your stock rom, flash custom for testing, then restore your stock backup if need be. There are lots of enhancements in the custom roms that is worthwhile.

I only got my Galaxy Nexus yesterday, however i think the stock rom is great to be honest.
There was always some problem with custom roms on the Desire.
If i was going to use a custom rom on my Galaxy Nexus i would wait for the stable release of CM9 or MIUI (if there ever is a stable one).
For now stock is fine for me personally, only thing i really miss is all the settings in the notification tray, but rooted stock is working perfect for me and its nice to have a perfectly working phone for once

well well.. flashing phones like samsung jet, omnia II, galaxy s, wave or htc touch diamond or sensation was my life..till i met the sony xperia s.. Now its too hard to decide what to do. Stay on stock or flash the new roms, kernels, mods..again and again. I am on stock now because of few lags..I hadnt expected. I am not gonna explain what was it but I wanna have fully function device on my own and that is why I made the decision to sty on stock. And of course I am still waiting for original upgrade. That is my opinion.

stupidslow02gt said:
I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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I know what you mean. I kept mine stock for months, which is longer than any other phone I've had. But I finally bit the bullet and went custom and I'm glad I did. You just gotta try for your self and see which you prefer.

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it wont hurt anything to try a custom rom, you can always go back to stock
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Laird_Attwood said:
I had this issue with the GNEX. I have kept it stock so far. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and made a few UI changes and a differnt kernal.
I'm happy with it for now. Who knows what future will hold.
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after doing whatever you want to your phone, if youre not going to flash anything, relock bootloader
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Excuse my noobyness but isnt AOKP just a stock untouched firmware? Or is that AOSP.
Just looked up the franco kernel and have read nothing but good things.
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A(ndroid)O(pen)S(ource)P(roject).
A(ndroid)O(pen)K(kang)P(project) is a custom rom by TeamKang, based on AOSP releases from Google.
Search tags: kang, aosp, source.android.com
@OP, i say just go with whatever you feel is working for you. If you feel stock is better, stick with it. I run my nexus bone stock (even with stock recovery, i use fastboot to boot cwm once, flash zip with a different font, just tired of roboto) from time to time, to get a grip of how things are going with official releases. I have no issues.
And there's no more Android OS bug. Use better battery stats (here in xda) to see whats causing wakelocks, which drains battery more than usual. If you have lte device you'll have considerably worse runtime on battery, if you on gsm then you'll get around 1d15h with 3h40 screen on with stock, when all is optimal. Lets face it, current battery technology blows.
Read a lot before flashing anything, till the point you are able to help others when they face issues without having really tested it yourself, to know possible advantages/disadvantages of x software/mod, if its user error, apps, or custom rom, or stock.
This is android as its supposed to be, some have even got bored of how easy it gets to play with this device.
sent from my i9250

sillverdj said:
well well.. flashing phones like samsung jet, omnia II, galaxy s, wave or htc touch diamond or sensation was my life..till i met the sony xperia s.. Now its too hard to decide what to do. Stay on stock or flash the new roms, kernels, mods..again and again. I am on stock now because of few lags..I hadnt expected. I am not gonna explain what was it but I wanna have fully function device on my own and that is why I made the decision to sty on stock. And of course I am still waiting for original upgrade. That is my opinion.
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Hey thanks for reviving a 3 month old thread to talk about your Sony phone in the nexus forum LOL
Also I would like to point out that I went AOKP then CM9 then LS all with the Franco kernel and wouldn't think about going back to stock. I would consider the phone unusable compared to what it is now lol

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Hey thanks for reviving a 3 month old thread to talk about your Sony phone in the nexus forum LOL
Also I would like to point out that I went AOKP then CM9 then LS all with the Franco kernel and wouldn't think about going back to stock. I would consider the phone unusable compared to what it is now lol
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Yea LiquidSmooth is what I'm running on. Very fast and loads of features while being easy on the battery.

Everyone claims their 'insert rom' is easier on battery, but with the exception of those who have actively coded something like AOKP's battery saver, or BAMF Paradigm's tasker support in their LTE widget, its a bunch of BS.
Someone please show me, aside from the above, source code for a rom that saves battery. I'll settle for a github commit.
Most battery savings will come from lack of bugs that cause resource leaks and wake locks, or kernels.
All these claims are ranking right up there with statements like "deodexed for performance" or "ribbed for her pleasure".

I did flash a rom early on (Apex I believe it was) and I forget the reasoning behind me going back to stock but I am completely happy with staying on stock (& rooted) yakju. I will probably go to a rom sometime again in the future but for now I am good.
The good thing about flashing stock is that it is so easy to do it with fastboot so at any time you arent happy with roms you can just go back to stock.

[Q] ROMs that enhance battery performance?

I recently bought a used Sprint Galaxy S3, it is the SPH-L710 model.
It works great, I like it, I got it rooted with no problem, and got CWM flashed to it and I'm getting ready to flash a ROM.
I've been searching forums and sites for about 2 days for the ROM I want to use.
I'm mainly looking for something that enhances my battery performance, the reason for this is when I first got the phone, I updated it to the 4.4.2 KitKat when I first turned the phone on and the battery life was terrible, like I would charge it to 100% and use it browsing the web for about 10 mins and lose sometimes upwards of 10+% within that 10 minutes.
I searched around and found 2 Apps that I am using right now, one is a battery doctor type thing, the other is an app called Battery Saver (root) it changes some stuff and is supposed to make battery life better, since I have started using these 2 apps my battery life has increased, but it still seems to drain a little fast. So I would like to try and find a ROM that perhaps has tweaked the battery life.
Does anyone have any opinions on battery life for any of the ROMs here that would work for my device, like perhaps which one that you have tried that extended your battery life? I know I could just try them myself, but I am hoping to save a bit of time and see if anyone has some input.
Also another quick question, is there a way to test my battery and see if its just bad? A friend mentioned that the battery could have just gone bad so I'd like to check that if possible.

A. S3s aren't known for their amazing battery life. My battery does not go very far either, talking on the phone, which I do a lot for work, gobbles up the battery immensely. (Like 100% to 80% in 30 minutes.) Web browsing is another battery hog.
B. ROMs are only going to do so much as far as extending your battery life. Just bear in mind -- the lighter the ROM, the less battery it'll likely consume.
You'll do more to save battery by flashing a custom kernel on top of a light ROM that'll allow you undervolt/underclock. But, you want to make sure you flash the correct kernel to the correct ROM base (e.g. Touchwiz kernel for Touchwiz ROMs, AOSP/CM based kernels for AOSP/CM based ROMs).
I personally use the DKP kernel found here in the S3 original development thread.
Be careful w/ underclocking and especially undervolting, as this can cause the phone to freeze up. It's also important to choose a governor that has a nice balance between performance and power savings. (I like the freelunch governor.)
Hope this helps.

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A. S3s aren't known for their amazing battery life. My battery does not go very far either, talking on the phone, which I do a lot for work, gobbles up the battery immensely. (Like 100% to 80% in 30 minutes.) Web browsing is another battery hog.
B. ROMs are only going to do so much as far as extending your battery life. Just bear in mind -- the lighter the ROM, the less battery it'll likely consume.
You'll do more to save battery by flashing a custom kernel on top of a light ROM that'll allow you undervolt/underclock. But, you want to make sure you flash the correct kernel to the correct ROM base (e.g. Touchwiz kernel for Touchwiz ROMs, AOSP/CM based kernels for AOSP/CM based ROMs).
I personally use the DKP kernel found here in the S3 original development thread.
Be careful w/ underclocking and especially undervolting, as this can cause the phone to freeze up. It's also important to choose a governor that has a nice balance between performance and power savings. (I like the freelunch governor.)
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
That gives me an idea of what I should start looking for, and I'll check out the DKP kernel as well..
I just thought of another question I had, maybe you can help me with it too.
Since I'm running Android 4.4.2 on my device, would I need to find a 4.4.2 ROM to flash?
For instance could I use a 4.3.1 ROM on my 4.4.2 device?

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Thanks!
That gives me an idea of what I should start looking for, and I'll check out the DKP kernel as well..
I just thought of another question I had, maybe you can help me with it too.
Since I'm running Android 4.4.2 on my device, would I need to find a 4.4.2 ROM to flash?
For instance could I use a 4.3.1 ROM on my 4.4.2 device?
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It doesn't matter which Android version you decide to go with. Just avoid two things:
1. Do not flash an older bootloader than the one you are currently on (e.g. If you are currently on ND8, do not flash any older bootloaders like MK5 or MD4).
2. Do not flash any modems older than the one you're currently on. Your modem version can be found in Settings -->About Phone --> and the last three letter/number combination under "Baseband Version". Hint: The baseband version also tells you which bootloader/ROM you're on.
Doing either of these, will trip Samsung's KNOX security feature, tripping the kill-fuse, and suddenly, you'll have yourself a nice hard brick.
I know that probably sounds intimidating, but I assure you if you avoid those two things, you can flash any D2LTE ROM you please. (D2LTE ROMs will work with the Sprint S3.)

idk man the batter life of my S3 lasts 2 days where my Infuse 4g would last less then one with a new battery.....so by far the best battery life I've had in a while

Higgs_Boson said:
It doesn't matter which Android version you decide to go with. Just avoid two things:
1. Do not flash an older bootloader than the one you are currently on (e.g. If you are currently on ND8, do not flash any older bootloaders like MK5 or MD4).
2. Do not flash any modems older than the one you're currently on. Your modem version can be found in Settings -->About Phone --> and the last three letter/number combination under "Baseband Version". Hint: The baseband version also tells you which bootloader/ROM you're on.
Doing either of these, will trip Samsung's KNOX security feature, tripping the kill-fuse, and suddenly, you'll have yourself a nice hard brick.
I know that probably sounds intimidating, but I assure you if you avoid those two things, you can flash any D2LTE ROM you please. (D2LTE ROMs will work with the Sprint S3.)
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Wew! Thanks for that info, you may have saved me from a terrible mistake lol.
One of the ROMs I was looking at was using the MD4 bootloader, so that would have been a no-no xD
Thanks a lot for all your help, I learned a few things from it, epspecially about the bootloaders and modems having to match, I had no idea about that. Now that I know that, it opens up a few more possibilities for ROMs I can use!

vagabond007 said:
Wew! Thanks for that info, you may have saved me from a terrible mistake lol.
One of the ROMs I was looking at was using the MD4 bootloader, so that would have been a no-no xD
Thanks a lot for all your help, I learned a few things from it, epspecially about the bootloaders and modems having to match, I had no idea about that. Now that I know that, it opens up a few more possibilities for ROMs I can use!
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Fun fact: The bootloaders and modems didn't always have to match.
Samsung wanted to be able to market their devices to business entities, and in order to do that, they developed the KNOX security feature.
Once it's on your phone, it's not coming off. It matters to corporate security policy people, because they want devices that aren't going to be compromised if someone tampers with them.
And, as you can see, the wrong kind of tampering makes the phone completely unusable and unrecoverable.

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Fun fact: The bootloaders and modems didn't always have to match.
Samsung wanted to be able to market their devices to business entities, and in order to do that, they developed the KNOX security feature.
Once it's on your phone, it's not coming off. It matters to corporate security policy people, because they want devices that aren't going to be compromised if someone tampers with them.
And, as you can see, the wrong kind of tampering makes the phone completely unusable and unrecoverable.
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Right now I'm sort of leaning towards LiquidSmooth, Quantam4, or Tribute ROM, still sort of looking around though.
If you don't mind me asking @Higgs_Boson, which ROM are you using?
Also, to the other poster, my mothers GS3 is the same way, hers will last upwards of a day and a half, then again she doesn;t use hers for much, while I'm on mine like a computer lol.

vagabond007 said:
Right now I'm sort of leaning towards LiquidSmooth, Quantam4, or Tribute ROM, still sort of looking around though.
If you don't mind me asking @Higgs_Boson, which ROM are you using?
Also, to the other poster, my mothers GS3 is the same way, hers will last upwards of a day and a half, then again she doesn;t use hers for much, while I'm on mine like a computer lol.
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Right now, I'm on CM11.
I usually switch between two that are my favorites:
CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android.
If you want an all-in-one, there is always PAC-ROM, which includes Paranoid Android, AOKP, and CM all under the same roof. (But then, we get back to that thing about light ROMs.)

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Higgs_Boson said:
Right now, I'm on CM11.
I usually switch between two that are my favorites:
CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android.
If you want an all-in-one, there is always PAC-ROM, which includes Paranoid Android, AOKP, and CM all under the same roof. (But then, we get back to that thing about light ROMs.)
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I completely overlooked CM
Is CM11 compatible with the DKP Kernel you were telling me about?

yep
Yes it is. I'm that combo at the moment

im currently running wicked X 8.0

6th_Hokage said:
im currently running wicked X 8.0
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I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?

jbnorton0524 said:
I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?
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personally yes after i replace the system UI with the Stock ND8/NDC one and same with the TW Framework and TWframework-res.apk and use the Stockish theme for it.....i like the stock look what can i say but im using xposed at the same time for little things here and there but if you don't want to replace somethings and want it to work 100% use the PCB theme that it comes with.......but either way its pretty smooth and fast and the battery lasts for 2 days with some gaming and listening to music with viper4android installed and making calls and texting the one thing that i would say drains my battery is watching videos but you'll be satisfied

Wow you arent joking. This is one of the best ive seen lately. Nice.

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I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?
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Wicked X, Tribute and Conquest Singularity are all 3 very good ROMs with pretty fair battery life. As stated, Kernal Settings do make a world of difference! I'm on Singularity with latest KT747 Kernal and love it :]

Cm 11 or paranoid

New HTC 10 - which ROM?

Just bought myself a new HTC 10 from DWI that arrives today from Hong Kong. I'm sure it's going to be full of bloatware I dont want so I'm looking at flashing something else that is close to stock, if not stock android. It looks like Viper10 or LeeDroid are the two best options (as far as I can tell).
- What are the main differences between the two?
- Which one would I be better off with?
- How long would it take to install them?

Viper gives more customization and Lee gives speed and stability imo. I can't tell you which is better off which since it depends on your behavior using the phone. The installation process won't take more than 30 minutes, the complicate part is rooting and flashing recovery etc..

BrianKuo1853 said:
Viper gives more customization and Lee gives speed and stability imo. I can't tell you which is better off which since it depends on your behavior using the phone. The installation process won't take more than 30 minutes, the complicate part is rooting and flashing recovery etc..
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Sounds like Lee would appeal more to me. Just started using the phone though and its amazing, no bloatware at all. Just updating to Nougat now and cant fault it - wondering if its even worth going through the hassle to root and flash it etc.

BrianKuo1853 said:
Viper gives more customization and Lee gives speed and stability imo. I can't tell you which is better off which since it depends on your behavior using the phone. The installation process won't take more than 30 minutes, the complicate part is rooting and flashing recovery etc..
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why shall our rom not be stable? We have much customizations yes, but when you install the rom, you have a pure stock look and behavior at the beginning...it's up to the user to customize.
We don't force any user use any of our customization if he does not want to....and those customization don't make the rom not running stable.
I would say all sense roms that come with a stock kernel are running stable.

j to the 4n said:
why shall our rom not be stable? We have much customizations yes, but when you install the rom, you have a pure stock look and behavior at the beginning...it's up to the user to customize.
We don't force any user use any of our customization if he does not want to....and those customization don't make the rom not running stable.
I would say all sense roms that come with a stock kernel are running stable.
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I guess everyone sees and lives thru ROMs differently. People tend to think that a feature packed ROMs are usally less stable, since they have to have loads of processes and stuff running in background, which in turn results in a FC or crash every now and then. Thus, lighter ROMs are being considered more stable :silly: Just my opinion, I'm still full stock, can't decide what to flash

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I guess everyone sees and lives thru ROMs differently. People tend to think that a feature packed ROMs are usally less stable, since they have to have loads of processes and stuff running in background, which in turn results in a FC or crash every now and then. Thus, lighter ROMs are being considered more stable :silly: Just my opinion, I'm still full stock, can't decide what to flash
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Nope.Viper is as stable as LeeDroid since they are stock based. The less stable ones are LOS based. You could categorize as less customizable more customizable.

voolandis said:
I guess everyone sees and lives thru ROMs differently. People tend to think that a feature packed ROMs are usally less stable, since they have to have loads of processes and stuff running in background, which in turn results in a FC or crash every now and then. Thus, lighter ROMs are being considered more stable :silly: Just my opinion, I'm still full stock, can't decide what to flash
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We have no additional processes running, lol. Most users don't have the knowledge how things work...but then people shouldn't judge the work of people that spent thousands of ours of their freetime into.
A general rule is though: Asking for a good rom is always wrong since people have different preferences.
You should always try out the roms yourself and make your own picture of it.

Well I did say imo..
Obviously I'm not a godly dev like you but that's just what I think, it may not apply to all of you but I was just simply answering op.

#AlternativeFacts :laugh:
Make XDA great again!
I'm sure the guy originally asking for an opinion has now gotten a fair share of slapping.
The best way to find out, just to repeat whats been said, is to flash different ROMs and find your own preference. There is nothing objective in ROM choice, it is always entirely opinion based and as such a wonderful starter for flame wars. I love those questions. Could jump right in

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#AlternativeFacts :laugh:
Make XDA great again!
I'm sure the guy originally asking for an opinion has now gotten a fair share of slapping.
The best way to find out, just to repeat whats been said, is to flash different ROMs and find your own preference. There is nothing objective in ROM choice, it is always entirely opinion based and as such a wonderful starter for flame wars. I love those questions. Could jump right in
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What he said.
Thread closed.