[Q] Why Root phone when I'm on Gingerbread already? - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there even a point rooting my phone when its already Gingerbread? can someone tell me the general features I can get, and what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks

The point of rooting is to open up a whole new world of customization. Once you root your phone, you can do a lot LOT more with your phone than you can now.
Just look at the choices of roms you'll have.
Believe me, rooting your DHD will be the best thing you'll do to your phone.
And as far as custom roms are concerned, there is no such thing as 'the best rom'.. it all depends on personal choice.

If you like the idea of trying different roms then you'll need to root.
You can get an idea from the screenshots in the ROM threads of how different your phone experience can be with custom roms.
(I started out rooting just for an easier way to take screenshots.)
Here is a page of screenshots from the CyanogenMod 7 rom I had on my phone a while back (plus some other wallpapers). As you can see, it is quite different. It's worth trying different roms if you like to tinker and improve the experience, be it visual, performance or whatever.
It can become an addiction or distraction though, so be warned. Good Luck.

It most certainly can become an addiction and distraction. I've got exams to worry about and my mind keeps going back onto this lol

raze599 said:
It most certainly can become an addiction and distraction. I've got exams to worry about and my mind keeps going back onto this lol
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Amen. Likewise. hahaha.

One word - Customisation.
That's why you should root and try out different ROMs find out the mix that suits you perfectly rather than sticking to what HTC TELLS you you want.

chocolate mousse said:
what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks
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The is no best rom. Each has specific features, so you have to test what works best for you.
Popular roms are Android Revolution HD, CyanogenMod, Leedroid, Rcmix, MIUI, Coredroid etc...

wow , that cyanogenmod actually looks good! Just a couple of questions:- 1) How can i root (lol) 2) Can it be reversed at all? (the ROMs and rooting?)
thats all for now! thanks for everyone whos posted so far

chocolate mousse said:
wow , that cyanogenmod actually looks good! Just a couple of questions:- 1) How can i root (lol) 2) Can it be reversed at all? (the ROMs and rooting?)
thats all for now! thanks for everyone whos posted so far
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Everything is here mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079108
Using the search function is your best friend

chocolate mousse said:
Is there even a point rooting my phone when its already Gingerbread? can someone tell me the general features I can get, and what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks
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With a rooted phone, you can get total control of your phone,
With stock ROMs they have limited some functions, but once you rooted you can get rid of those limitation. For simple example, you cant take screenshots of your phone without rooting.
And secondly you can install custom ROMs on your phone and even overclock your processor.
Hope this helped,
Thanks!

As pointed out, you can overclock your phone. The DHD can run up to 1.9Ghz !
I normaly have mine running anything up to 1.6
Plus overcocking means that the phone can be underclocked for when the screen is off, saving battery.
As for ROM's. I have traditionally always run CyanogenMod as it's a nice, slick, fast experience.
If you try CM, then don't forget how much you can customise your screens using different 'Launcher' apps. I use ADW Ex but Launcher Pro is another popular one and there's plenty more. Most have downloadable themes(skins) too.
Oh, and if you really want some fun, try one of the new full Sense 3.0 rom's to see how fansy sense can get. I'm running Virtious Unity at the moment and it's the first Sense ROM I've run since I first rooted the phone ! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115312
But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive

furrypotato said:
But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive
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Very addicting indeed.. More like, 3 times a day in flashing different roms, just for the sake of showing off to my significant other..

furrypotato said:
As pointed out, you can overclock your phone. The DHD can run up to 1.9Ghz !
I normaly have mine running anything up to 1.6
Plus overcocking means that the phone can be underclocked for when the screen is off, saving battery.
As for ROM's. I have traditionally always run CyanogenMod as it's a nice, slick, fast experience.
If you try CM, then don't forget how much you can customise your screens using different 'Launcher' apps. I use ADW Ex but Launcher Pro is another popular one and there's plenty more. Most have downloadable themes(skins) too.
Oh, and if you really want some fun, try one of the new full Sense 3.0 rom's to see how fansy sense can get. I'm running Virtious Unity at the moment and it's the first Sense ROM I've run since I first rooted the phone ! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115312
But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive
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i rooted two days ago and now im running cm7. best decision i have ever made!! wish id done it a lot sooner. i have a question about overclocking, well, underclocking with cm7. did you use the performance setting within cyanogenmod to adjust the cpu settings or did you use a third party app like setcpu. going to try around 1400 overclock and run whatever the minimum is.
cheers

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[Q] Best Dinc ROM for (stable and battery life)

Hey guys, just wondering what the most stable (fewest bugs) ROM available right now is. I am also wanting to extentd my battery life. I have a rooted stock 2.2 SLCD Dinc. I know that some things work differently on the SLCD versions than on the AMOLED versions.
I have recently come from an eris and had a great support group on the eris xda section. Since the eris has been around a lot longer than the Dinc it was easy to tell what ROM's were widley used due the activity on that thread. It is not as easy in the Dinc threads because they are so even in numbers.
Thanks for any advice!
You will get a better response in the Q&A forum.
prob skyraider
i love the true vanilla roms like ruby and CM but im not sure if you would consider them 100% stable and i know theres been problems with the SLCD screens
as far as stability.. the Virtuous rom is basically the stock rom with a few user friendly options to tweak things.
I have had the best experience with skyraider's roms, I like the CM6.1 RC's but always get better battery life with skyraider.
JaydenR said:
You will get a better response in the Q&A forum.
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Sorry about that, how do I move this to that forum?
By posting it in the q&a section
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Try IncRom. Battery life is outstanding
Myn's Warm RLS 3 is the best I've ever used. It is pristine. 2 days of battery life, no FC's, awesome speed.
Thank you for all of the suggestions. I am reading about all of them and realy wrestling with which one to try...
Fretless said:
Myn's Warm RLS 3 is the best I've ever used. It is pristine. 2 days of battery life, no FC's, awesome speed.
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what kernel are you using? im on ziggys but theres no way i could ever get 2 days out of my battery with low to moderate use
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what kernel are you using? im on ziggys but theres no way i could ever get 2 days out of my battery with low to moderate use
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2.32.17 stock kernel. Seems to be really nice.
Special note though, the use of games will drain that sucker like a vampire victim.
Fretless said:
2.32.17 stock kernel. Seems to be really nice.
Special note though, the use of games will drain that sucker like a vampire victim.
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Yeah I agree with you on that. I'm using Virtuous 3.1 which comes with the new htc kernel and it's blown my mind on battery life and charging times.
The cool thing about roms is the ability to backup and install brand new ones with no risk of really messing anything up. Try them all and find out which you like best. I try a new rom everyday practically... I'm on Myn's right now but I'm probably about to go back to rEVOlution... or Incdoes' Desire Z.... The choices...
truegrass said:
Thank you for all of the suggestions. I am reading about all of them and realy wrestling with which one to try...
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Don't sweat over which one to go with, try them all and then decide for yourself. Once you try one or two you will become hooked and you'll be changing rom's on a daily basis and your girlfriend will be yelling at you because you're always messing with your phone....
...everyone has that problem, right?
localceleb said:
Don't sweat over which one to go with, try them all and then decide for yourself. Once you try one or two you will become hooked and you'll be changing rom's on a daily basis and your girlfriend will be yelling at you because you're always messing with your phone....
...everyone has that problem, right?
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+1 I CONSTANTLY get yelled at. ;-)
localceleb said:
Don't sweat over which one to go with, try them all and then decide for yourself. Once you try one or two you will become hooked and you'll be changing rom's on a daily basis and your girlfriend will be yelling at you because you're always messing with your phone....
...everyone has that problem, right?
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HAHA, yes! I thought I was really the only one. I was like, baby, you're being stupid, no one else cares.... guess I was wrong. It used to be changing phones all the time, but once I got an incredible, I haven't had the desire to change hardware, just software...
Glad I'm not the only one, kinda makes me feel more like a man now.
gfs and rom flashing
man, same here....i think at 11pm no one is going to call me and i can finally flash the rom i've been waiting all day to flash, but boom! gf calls and im like damn. lol. then i spend another hour trying to make it look like how it was before i flashed, ex: download the apps (i still have learned how to use titanium backup to restore the apps), put icons in their places, login all the apps, setup emails, etc....and by the end of the week, new version of a different rom is out and i wanna flash that now.
My wife WANTS an incredible, but she HATES my phone. Shes always saying "Why cant you just PICK ONE and GO WITH IT. Im SO TIRED of your LOVE AFFAIR with your PHONE!"
Shes grown to tolerate it over the year. Kinda.
But back on topic, the ones i tried and liked so far have been
Sense: Uncommon Sense, Myn's Warm, and anything with hey its lou
AOSP: Cyanogen is great on battery, Ruby is nice and smooth, and I've liked the stuff from IncDoes.
To be honest, I don't think that the ROM affects your battery life that greatly. The kernel and what applications your running has a much greater effect. For example, I found that I got the best battery life with either an AOSP ROM, or a Sense ROM with Rosie removed (keeping all the other parts of Sense intact, just replacing Rosie with ADW.Launcher or LauncherPro). Also, LiveWallpapers destroyed my battery.
That said, stability is definitely affected by your ROM. SkyRaider seemed okay, but I had my phone wipe itself one morning, which someone else confirmed as being an issue. My personal best experience has been with Redemptive rEVOlution. Great theme, not much bloat, and nearly bugfree.

New User, advice on ROM?

Just got an EVO tonight, I would have liked to wait for 3D but I needed faster internet/phone asap since I started my new job.
I've been reading the forums, how to root, etc. the past couple of days, and am in the process of rooting. But there are just so many ROMs all which have there own pros/cons, so I was wondering if anyone had advice based on what I mainly want to use my phone for...
CM7 seems like the most popular, and I care mainly about stability, removing bloatware, and performance, care less about visual stuff. Plus it sounds like you can customize it with themes anyways.
But I've read threads where GPS/4G breaks which is what I care about the most.
I live in OC which has 4G, and that is the primary reason I upgraded from my old phone. 95% of the time this phone will be used for internet/games.
I was debating just going for a stock ROM, but not sure if benefits of a custom one outweighs stock ones.
Does anyone have advice on a stable ROM that improves performance and has little risk of breaking things like 4G? Or at least a few I can narrow down to?
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Just got an EVO tonight, I would have liked to wait for 3D but I needed faster internet/phone asap since I started my new job.
I've been reading the forums, how to root, etc. the past couple of days, and am in the process of rooting. But there are just so many ROMs all which have there own pros/cons, so I was wondering if anyone had advice based on what I mainly want to use my phone for...
CM7 seems like the most popular, and I care mainly about stability, removing bloatware, and performance, care less about visual stuff. Plus it sounds like you can customize it with themes anyways.
But I've read threads where GPS/4G breaks which is what I care about the most.
I live in OC which has 4G, and that is the primary reason I upgraded from my old phone. 95% of the time this phone will be used for internet/games.
I was debating just going for a stock ROM, but not sure if benefits of a custom one outweighs stock ones.
Does anyone have advice on a stable ROM that improves performance and has little risk of breaking things like 4G? Or at least a few I can narrow down to?
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Normally I would suggest MIUI, but since you need 4G either go with CM 7 or if you want to stick with a Sense based ROM I would suggest MikFroyo. Hope that helps and good luck with the new job.
Strife025 said:
Just got an EVO tonight, I would have liked to wait for 3D but I needed faster internet/phone asap since I started my new job.
I've been reading the forums, how to root, etc. the past couple of days, and am in the process of rooting. But there are just so many ROMs all which have there own pros/cons, so I was wondering if anyone had advice based on what I mainly want to use my phone for...
CM7 seems like the most popular, and I care mainly about stability, removing bloatware, and performance, care less about visual stuff. Plus it sounds like you can customize it with themes anyways.
But I've read threads where GPS/4G breaks which is what I care about the most.
I live in OC which has 4G, and that is the primary reason I upgraded from my old phone. 95% of the time this phone will be used for internet/games.
I was debating just going for a stock ROM, but not sure if benefits of a custom one outweighs stock ones.
Does anyone have advice on a stable ROM that improves performance and has little risk of breaking things like 4G? Or at least a few I can narrow down to?
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If you want to keep your stock rom you can also just search root uninstaller on the market and get rid of any bloatware on the stock rom.
CM7 is the way to go friend...
Thanks for the replies. I thought I'd get the CM7 suggestions. I'm assuming RC4 is the version I want?
The only issue I had was that I saw in the known issues that some people were experiencing problems with 4G/GPS, so I wasn't sure if that was a widespread issue or not.
cm7 is an awesome ROM, dont get me wrong... if its your first rom troubleshooting may be a hassle because until it becomes an official release there will be bugs to deal with.
my suggestion would be look in the development thread and try a simple sense based rom first and read its threads (or even cm7 for that matter) to see what people are reporting about it.
*imho*
I switch between my own stock backup and CM7. CM7 is the way to go if you are looking for a different rom. It is basically stable. I have found nothing wrong with it.
MIKFROYO is great, but have been running Koni's Elite 111 with Honeycomb Dream theme for over a month...AWESOME...STABLE...FAST using netarchy 4.3.2 cfs sbc havs less
I was wondering this myself last week and what I found out is that once you see how easy it is to switch roms you'll be testing out a bunch of them and keep finding yourself returning to a particular one for one reason or another... and that's the one I stuck with. I ended up using Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo but I'm sure I'll be trying out a couple more today
Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS5. It's fast, stable and everything works and it's very customizable like any other Android device.
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But GPS does not work on CM7 without real hassle, well I couldn't get it to work.
Love that you got a new job and need a phone to play games and browse the web 95% of the time
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Koni's elite series iii is very stable, very fast, and looks great.
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But GPS does not work on CM7 without real hassle, well I couldn't get it to work.
Love that you got a new job and need a phone to play games and browse the web 95% of the time
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lol I know right. Basically my old company was cool with everything as long as I got my work done so I never really needed to use internet on my phone as much. Have a good gaming rig at home and was always at my desk at work.
My new job is with at a larger corp. (like 3,000 people) and has way more rules and regulations. My boss doesn't care and always goes on his phone or reads the paper in his freetime, but it's a company rule. So I wanted something that I could go online with
Anyways, I rooted and installed CM7 last night, it was quite easy. I haven't had any problems but I did like certain things with the stock Sense UI better. Maybe I'll try some other ROMs suggested here since it was so easy.
I gotta agree that, I've use MIUI, CM6 (not 7), fresh, and researched but not used MikFroyo, and my favorite right now is Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS5 w/o a doubt. It has everything you would want in a SENSE based ROM. Then, I'd also download the launcher pro that's right on that same thread, it adds a ton of additional customization that is great.
If you want a stock look but a bit faster and possibly better battery life check out Calkulins evio series 2 its on version 1.8,by far my favorite sense rom.
If you want aosp gb rom very stable really fast,gps works for me but with all gb aosp its different from user to user.Try salvage mod on version 1.1 though 1.2 is coming soon.
Both great roms.
I'm running the new CM7 Final, and I love it. I was using the nightlies and the RC's, and they were all great for a daily driver. Now CM7 Final is out? To me, this can't be beat.
It's fast, stable, has the features, and does everything I want. Let us know which one you decided to try out...

[Q] Help with ROM choice, bear with me please

I need a Gingerbread/Sense ROM with and emphasis on stability. Close to stock would be best though it isn't paramount. I realize that ROMs are like beers, you get a different opinion on which is best depending on who you ask. The circumstances just don't allow me to try out a whole slew of ROMs.
A good friend's wife has an EVO 4G (I have a Sensation, G2x & HD2) and is having trouble with stability. I suggested we root it and slap a custom ROM on it. While they were over I rooted it and got everything ready to back up and slap a ROM on it. Problem is I am unsure as to what ROM to put on it. Yes, I could try out several ROMs to find one that works but this isn't going to go well at all. The reasons should be obvious for anyone who is married. This is magnified by the fact that I would only have access to the phone maybe once every other week. I need a silver bullet for this one.
Thank you for your time.
I've tried a ton of sense roms, MikG still wins for stability and everything working for me.
I'm currently running synergy w/o sense lockscreen. Loving it. I've had no problems with stability.
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Neitmrh15 said:
I've tried a ton of sense roms, MikG still wins for stability and everything working for me.
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This one I assume? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
kingphreak13 said:
I'm currently running synergy w/o sense lockscreen. Loving it. I've had no problems with stability.
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RC2 from the below thread? Is there a problem with the lock screen or is that a personal preference?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447
Try EVO classic Rom. It's based off the latest stock Rom. It's fast and so far no trouble for me.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312414
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Thats the one. I used to use Synergy to but I found it to be a bit slower than MikG and Mik sees more updates.
If you go Synergy RLS1 is the newest version. RC2 is older and was an unofficial release I believe. I never had a problem with the lock screen on Synergy.
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This one I assume? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
RC2 from the below thread? Is there a problem with the lock screen or is that a personal preference?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447
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I've found Mik Roms to be the most stable as well as be current with the latest updates. Myn's Roms are excellent as well.
DECIM8 said:
I need a Gingerbread/Sense ROM with and emphasis on stability. Close to stock would be best though it isn't paramount. I realize that ROMs are like beers, you get a different opinion on which is best depending on who you ask. The circumstances just don't allow me to try out a whole slew of ROMs.
A good friend's wife has an EVO 4G (I have a Sensation, G2x & HD2) and is having trouble with stability. I suggested we root it and slap a custom ROM on it. While they were over I rooted it and got everything ready to back up and slap a ROM on it. Problem is I am unsure as to what ROM to put on it. Yes, I could try out several ROMs to find one that works but this isn't going to go well at all. The reasons should be obvious for anyone who is married. This is magnified by the fact that I would only have access to the phone maybe once every other week. I need a silver bullet for this one.
Thank you for your time.
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click on the link in my sig to learn about aosp roms and kernels, it also has links to the roms and dl zips to the kernels. aosp may not be what you want but in reality you never know till you try ^_^
DECIM8 said:
I need a Gingerbread/Sense ROM with and emphasis on stability. Close to stock would be best though it isn't paramount. I realize that ROMs are like beers, you get a different opinion on which is best depending on who you ask. The circumstances just don't allow me to try out a whole slew of ROMs.
A good friend's wife has an EVO 4G (I have a Sensation, G2x & HD2) and is having trouble with stability. I suggested we root it and slap a custom ROM on it. While they were over I rooted it and got everything ready to back up and slap a ROM on it. Problem is I am unsure as to what ROM to put on it. Yes, I could try out several ROMs to find one that works but this isn't going to go well at all. The reasons should be obvious for anyone who is married. This is magnified by the fact that I would only have access to the phone maybe once every other week. I need a silver bullet for this one.
Thank you for your time.
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1. If she is having a problem with stability on a stock unrooted Evo then she needs to backup her information and just do a factory reset.
2. Trying out several ROMs is required because phones react to various ROMs differently. I can tell you that a certain ROM plays well with my phone but it may not play quite as well with yours. Then comes the issue of kernels. Kernels have a large impact on the phone's stability as well.
3. Tell your friend to do his own homework on how to get her phone up and running or have an affair with her so that you can see her more often and get more opportunities to test ROMs/kernels on her phone.
What version of Sense would you prefer?
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click on the link in my sig to learn about aosp roms and kernels, it also has links to the roms and dl zips to the kernels. aosp may not be what you want but in reality you never know till you try ^_^
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I ran AOSP and CM ROMs on my G2X. Eaglesblood with Faux's kernel. CM and AOSP ROMs are actually my preference for Android in general. I am not a huge fan of Sense, it has some nice apps but its too confining. This isn't my phone though.
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What version of Sense would you prefer?
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The EVO 4G has 2.5 by default I believe. I run the leaked 3.5 on my Sensation and it has some improvements over 2.5 and a couple over 3.0. If there is a very stable and fully functional ROM with 3.x that would be better. Stability and functionality still trump everything else though.
They mentioned that Netflix has to work as they use it often. Skype working properly with video would be good as well.
DECIM8 said:
I ran AOSP and CM ROMs on my G2X. Eaglesblood with Faux's kernel. CM and AOSP ROMs are actually my preference for Android in general. I am not a huge fan of Sense, it has some nice apps but its too confining. This isn't my phone though.
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i agree AOSP Roms are a lot better, smoother, and allow for more customization, that's why the thread i made in my sig is only about them and not about sense based roms. plus whenever an ICS rom comes out it'll be AOSP

[Q] Custom ROM vs Stock ROM - is it really that much faster?

I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
JWhipple said:
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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It's not really about speed. But with a custom ROM you definitely have more customizations possible. You can change the look of the interface, the notification toggles, colors etc. I have the i9100, which is another variant of the SGS2 and I've had ICS for a couple of months now, but it's not getting officially released until this month some time. So, it's not really about speed but rather about the freedom to do other things with it. Some people might cite benchmark tests, and scream that I'm wrong, but the hardware is what makes your phone fast...the software's not at all going to choke that out (whether stock or custom). As far as speed goes, you're probably not going to notice the difference.
Also, though you've got root access which enables you to install apps and do things you just can't do otherwise.
All that said, there are certain advantages to stock. It's often times more stable than something custom. There are ups and downs. If you feel the need to experiment, you can always flash back. Just read a lot before you get your feet wet (it is very possible to brick your device if you muck it up) and you'll be fine.
I don't think so. I'm going to get flamed plenty I'm sure but I don't see much improvement over how my phone performed out of the box. I think the battery life may even have been better before I started flashing stuff.
I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...
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I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...
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After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.
I didn't think you were new to Android since your account is almost 4 years old so I'd assumed you were familiar with all the "benefits" of rooting. The phone is so nice out of the box I don't think any of the roms are any smoother or better on battery. I think Warfare is probably the best on battery and for me CM7 was easliy the worst. I didn't notice a change in data speed, 2d smoothness, 3d smoothness, battery cover smoothness... Nothing. The device is so nice out of the box and I don't use it for anything other than a phone, text messaging, web browsing, e-mail, Skype, the occasional slicing of fruit or a word or two with friends so I can't comment on all the added functionality all the "super-duper heavy users" of this device probably use on custom roms. The only reason mine is rooted is for an ad host file and the occasional tether.
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sean is here. said:
After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.
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When I had a Fascinate... I was a huge fan of overclocking and undervolting. The same when I had a Thunderbolt. It made everything smoother and the Thunderbolt especially needed help in the battery area. This device just works. No need for anything other than what it came with for me. Obviously that didn't stop me from flashing the development section... But hey, I have a problem.
Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
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JWhipple said:
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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the thing with our device is that it came sooo sick straight out of the box that you don't really need to improve it that much. However, custom ROMs/kernels generally make the ROMs smoother, but not many people notice the difference.
I actually notice that because of the kernels implemented with certain ROMs, our phone is able to RUN just as smooth at a lower clockspeed which saves us battery. Other than that, I don't think Custom ROMs are actually "SMOOTHER" or faster than the stock ROM because Samsung really did well on this phone.
sunlaw2 said:
Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
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I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
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JWhipple said:
I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
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The main difference is the bloatware which really does make an impact on speed, memory consumption and overall smoothness.
Some rom cook faster, you should choose the rom cook by team have many vote on forum.
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Don't want to root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTgvLPOYLg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?
Karakoram2 said:
Don't want to root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTgvLPOYLg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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What the hell does this have to do with the discussion?
Chochiwpg said:
I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?
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Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.
Problem with SlickMOD is that the dev's T989 broke and he isn't getting another one - so - development has HALTED.
sean is here. said:
Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.
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Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.
Chochiwpg said:
Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.
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Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?
JWhipple said:
Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?
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It's the Stock ROM that came with my phone. I rooted the phone but haven't flashed any custom kernel's or custom ROMs on my phone. I also use Zeam Launcher as opposed to the TW Launcher by default. I have turned off animations, limited my homescreens to 3. I don't use too many widgets and I use an all black background. Also running Juice Defender to help with battery but I don't think that affects performance/speed.
Model Number = SGH-T898D
Android Version = 2.3.5
Baseband Version = T989DTLKJ3
Kernel Version = 2.6.35.11
Build Number = GINGERBREAD.TLKJ3
I don't know if that helps or answers your question. Hope that helps.
I'm willing to bet that the performance gains that are being seen on the Stock ROMs is due to the fact that they are ODEXed. By DeODEXing the ROMs can be customized to the cook's heart's content, but there is a mild performance hit taken.
Thoughts?

New HTC 10 - which ROM?

Just bought myself a new HTC 10 from DWI that arrives today from Hong Kong. I'm sure it's going to be full of bloatware I dont want so I'm looking at flashing something else that is close to stock, if not stock android. It looks like Viper10 or LeeDroid are the two best options (as far as I can tell).
- What are the main differences between the two?
- Which one would I be better off with?
- How long would it take to install them?
Viper gives more customization and Lee gives speed and stability imo. I can't tell you which is better off which since it depends on your behavior using the phone. The installation process won't take more than 30 minutes, the complicate part is rooting and flashing recovery etc..
BrianKuo1853 said:
Viper gives more customization and Lee gives speed and stability imo. I can't tell you which is better off which since it depends on your behavior using the phone. The installation process won't take more than 30 minutes, the complicate part is rooting and flashing recovery etc..
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Sounds like Lee would appeal more to me. Just started using the phone though and its amazing, no bloatware at all. Just updating to Nougat now and cant fault it - wondering if its even worth going through the hassle to root and flash it etc.
BrianKuo1853 said:
Viper gives more customization and Lee gives speed and stability imo. I can't tell you which is better off which since it depends on your behavior using the phone. The installation process won't take more than 30 minutes, the complicate part is rooting and flashing recovery etc..
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why shall our rom not be stable? We have much customizations yes, but when you install the rom, you have a pure stock look and behavior at the beginning...it's up to the user to customize.
We don't force any user use any of our customization if he does not want to....and those customization don't make the rom not running stable.
I would say all sense roms that come with a stock kernel are running stable.
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why shall our rom not be stable? We have much customizations yes, but when you install the rom, you have a pure stock look and behavior at the beginning...it's up to the user to customize.
We don't force any user use any of our customization if he does not want to....and those customization don't make the rom not running stable.
I would say all sense roms that come with a stock kernel are running stable.
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I guess everyone sees and lives thru ROMs differently. People tend to think that a feature packed ROMs are usally less stable, since they have to have loads of processes and stuff running in background, which in turn results in a FC or crash every now and then. Thus, lighter ROMs are being considered more stable :silly: Just my opinion, I'm still full stock, can't decide what to flash
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I guess everyone sees and lives thru ROMs differently. People tend to think that a feature packed ROMs are usally less stable, since they have to have loads of processes and stuff running in background, which in turn results in a FC or crash every now and then. Thus, lighter ROMs are being considered more stable :silly: Just my opinion, I'm still full stock, can't decide what to flash
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Nope.Viper is as stable as LeeDroid since they are stock based. The less stable ones are LOS based. You could categorize as less customizable more customizable.
voolandis said:
I guess everyone sees and lives thru ROMs differently. People tend to think that a feature packed ROMs are usally less stable, since they have to have loads of processes and stuff running in background, which in turn results in a FC or crash every now and then. Thus, lighter ROMs are being considered more stable :silly: Just my opinion, I'm still full stock, can't decide what to flash
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We have no additional processes running, lol. Most users don't have the knowledge how things work...but then people shouldn't judge the work of people that spent thousands of ours of their freetime into.
A general rule is though: Asking for a good rom is always wrong since people have different preferences.
You should always try out the roms yourself and make your own picture of it.
Well I did say imo..
Obviously I'm not a godly dev like you but that's just what I think, it may not apply to all of you but I was just simply answering op.
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I'm sure the guy originally asking for an opinion has now gotten a fair share of slapping.
The best way to find out, just to repeat whats been said, is to flash different ROMs and find your own preference. There is nothing objective in ROM choice, it is always entirely opinion based and as such a wonderful starter for flame wars. I love those questions. Could jump right in
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#AlternativeFacts :laugh:
Make XDA great again!
I'm sure the guy originally asking for an opinion has now gotten a fair share of slapping.
The best way to find out, just to repeat whats been said, is to flash different ROMs and find your own preference. There is nothing objective in ROM choice, it is always entirely opinion based and as such a wonderful starter for flame wars. I love those questions. Could jump right in
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What he said.
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