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To those with 003 and Epson and applied the fix......Well?

Was all the fuss about the cap worth it? Aside the screen tearing, is there really a noticeable difference? Do games run better? Is scrolling really smoother?

fix what fix ?

Where is this fix? and how do we tell what screen we have?

30 FPS fix is what this guy is talking about.

vinscuzzy said:
Was all the fuss about the cap worth it? Aside the screen tearing, is there really a noticeable difference? Do games run better? Is scrolling really smoother?
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Yes the difference is quite noticeable, whole phone runs alot smoother and faster, better touch response, etc. That being said the screen tearing is pretty bad and it obviously comes with the other problems of breaking the camera and all that.

Anyway to those who might have been able to test it, Would say it has noticeable difference even if it didn't. What I mean is the folks who probably were not aware of it before are the ones who would most likely just jump and say it's better. Compared to those who noticed right off the back, if that makes sense.

These two threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6915937#post6915937
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704889&page=48
I have hardware revision 003 but I haven't tried the fix yet. My lag was never really that significant in the first place and I'm planning on replacing this when Sprint gets their updated batches with the light leak and screen fixes so I don't want to root yet. I'd rather hold off until there's a stable ROM with all the features working. (Camera is a necessity, unfortunately)

This is my first Android phone, and coming from a Touch Pro 2, I found the responsiveness slightly better on the the Evo than on the TP2.
I have a friend who has the Sprint HTC Hero, and I noticed his screen shifts and overall responsiveness to be waaaaay better.
I can say now having applied the fix, the UI is as snappy on the EVO as it is on the Hero. As far as games go, it's a lot smoother.
So I'll say this, from the perspective of a first time user, minus the bad press and forum posts, the Evo is a great phone. With the fix, it's even better!
Edit: Let me add that while I was not pleased in having a phone where the features were halved, this was still the phone for me. Having a technical background AND knowing HTC's history, as well as the history of the devs (ie GPS functionality in the Moguls), I knew it was a matter of time for the fix to be found. But I can definitely view this from the perspective of the non-technical person who don't want to fool with rooting anything. They want something that works out of the box. I may not agree with the "whining" of some, I could relate.

[Q] unroot lg nitro HD using superoneclick?

I plan to return my nitro tomorrow before my 14 days is up. It's rooted with superoneclick. Should I bother trying to unroot? Would hate to brick it without a recovery rom available.

It won't brick you phone, I've done it several times already.
In my personal experience the clerks don't bother check the condition of the software on the phone, they turn it on (or not) and that's it.
And besides, if it's bricked, well, there is always a wall charger to blame
P.S.
What are you getting instead?

My mind isn't completely made up yet. I want to love the nitro but the occasional lag, poor scrolling, and battery life is what's ruining it for me. RAM manager has made a difference in app switching. I've been watching you guys closely hoping for proof of an unlocked bootloader as I'm sure another rom or hardware accelerated browsing in ics will make all the difference.
If i ditch it, ill probably just go back to my iPhone 4 for a couple months and see if the at&t version of the nexus gets LTE. I love this display, but don't know if I want to commit to the phone for 2 years. Will let you know what I decide.

Thank [email protected] Unroot worked without any problems. I decided to return it and wait and see what you all can find in the next few weeks. I played with the skyrocket and nitro side by side in the store.. what a difference. The skyrocket is buttery smooth. I would jump on it in a heart beat if there weren't those huge pixels staring me in the face . The HTC Vivid actually felt like a decent compromise if compromises had to be made. Nice qHD display and pretty smooth. I still believe the Nitro has the potential to be the top dog, but not in it's current state.
Keep up the good work. I'd love to see new software on the fantastic hardware.

The display on this is fantastic. I can feel your pain as it's not as smooth as the Skyrocket. I'm not a huge fan of the super amoled - especially compared to this. I have switched to the Zeam launcher and it has made a pretty nice difference. I'm hoping there will be an interim release by LG/AT&T to speed things up and fix some of the other minor bugs.
And most importantly hoping the dev successes continue and we can get some nice custom ROMs going (especially ICS).

I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.

Don't you get 30 days to return?

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I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.
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what about bloatware? how much of it there? Maybe that's the reason it's smoother?

Kaiser_Beef said:
Don't you get 30 days to return?
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Yes, you have 30 days. Every Nitro owner who bought from Att should be able to return it since it came out this month.

[email protected],
I'd actually say there is at least as much, if not more bloatware. I really can't explain why, but navigating through menus and scrolling through apps just feels smoother. Now, I had never done a factory reset and reformatted my SD card until my fiasco, so it's possible that helped and that the Nitro rom might feel smoother when I get back to it.

Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.

[email protected] said:
Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.
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Are you kidding me, this phone is Soooo Much smoother after doing a hard reset, even with bloatware still on it. Even now the Atrix feel so much more sluggish compared to this phone. I dont understand wat people are complaining about this phone. Yes, there's many kinks on this phone that LG never took care of, but that's why we have XDA and the great minds in it, that is to improve the phones we have.
You know wat, Go ahead, go and change your phones to the GS II. And when the Nitro HD gets a significant improvement in the sense of ROMs or any other upgrades, all of you who left this phone behind can weep and regret your decisions

Compare an iPhone or skyrocket. There's a huge difference in smoothness vs the nitro.. especially with the web browser (even opera). Even rooted with ram manager and hard reset, it just doesn't compare. Saying there isn't a difference is like my friend's saying they don't see the big pixels in the s ii. Say what you want about iphones, but i think they have spoiled me in terms of user interaction.
All that said, I agree the phone has tremendous potential and will most likely outshine the s ii when all is said and done.. My guess is that some of the lag involves software rendering of the 1280x720. Scroll around and watch the nitro's CPU spike. Custom roms or ICS much resolve some of this which is why I'm going to wait it out a few more weeks or months too see what unfolds before committing to the device long term.

[Q] Is this phone still buggy and problematic?

I was thinking about re-buying it, even though it disappointed me back then when I had it. It was recently updated to ICS and I found it to be laggy, especially in the homescreen and with a livewallpaper, then it had also a bunch of bugs, the most annoying one was the camera button not working all the time when trying to snap a quick photo without turning on the display and everything, and the autofocus being slow and crappy in video recording. There were more bugs but I don't remember them too well.
Also, back then they all had the crappy screen with yellow tints, I got mine replaced but even the replaced screen was rather crappy, with inferior color reproduction, and yellowish whites, in comparison to the old screen which looked AMAZING, except for the dark yellow patches.
Tell me if it has gotten better in these few months, it should have gotten a bunch of updates too.
Also, can you tell me if games run well? My favourite android games that didn't run too well back then were Wind Up Knight, Let's Golf 3, Asphalt 6, and probably a couple more but I don't remember. I'd also like to know benchmark scores in NenaMark2, Antutu and Quadrant, I'm willing to install custom kernel and customized stock based roms.

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I was thinking about re-buying it, even though it disappointed me back then when I had it. It was recently updated to ICS and I found it to be laggy, especially in the homescreen and with a livewallpaper, then it had also a bunch of bugs, the most annoying one was the camera button not working all the time when trying to snap a quick photo without turning on the display and everything, and the autofocus being slow and crappy in video recording. There were more bugs but I don't remember them too well.
Also, back then they all had the crappy screen with yellow tints, I got mine replaced but even the replaced screen was rather crappy, with inferior color reproduction, and yellowish whites, in comparison to the old screen which looked AMAZING, except for the dark yellow patches.
Tell me if it has gotten better in these few months, it should have gotten a bunch of updates too.
Also, can you tell me if games run well? My favourite android games that didn't run too well back then were Wind Up Knight, Let's Golf 3, Asphalt 6, and probably a couple more but I don't remember.
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Its a damn good phone, but if you didnt like it then you probably wont know. Most of those bugs are gone and my screen looks good. I run games just fine, but I am not a major gamer.
Probably should have put which phone you are talking about and put this is the QA section. I assume it is the Xperia S.

Yeah, it's the XS, I'm sorry.
My main problem with it was the disappointing performance. It literally ran less smoothly than my old Xperia Ray, and I tried EVERYTHING except for custom kernels, because there weren't many back then. I'm willing to try them now, if they do make a big difference.
I don't remember on what firmware was I though.
Which bugs still persist?

MarkMRL said:
Yeah, it's the XS, I'm sorry.
My main problem with it was the disappointing performance. It literally ran less smoothly than my old Xperia Ray, and I tried EVERYTHING except for custom kernels, because there weren't many back then. I'm willing to try them now, if they do make a big difference.
I don't remember on what firmware was I though.
Which bugs still persist?
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Custom roms make a big difference. There really aren't any bugs that bother me that are still around. Its definitely one of the best Sony phones for dev support. On KA20.1 its really fast. I can't say enough positive things about this phone and I have owned one since it first came out. I has its flaws but there are no perfect phones.

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Custom roms make a big difference. There really aren't any bugs that bother me that are still around. Its definitely one of the best Sony phones for dev support. On KA20.1 its really fast. I can't say enough positive things about this phone and I have owned one since it first came out. I has its flaws but there are no perfect phones.
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Can you tell me which flaws still remain? The only hardware flaws I found with this phone were the unresponsive dots but I learned to get them to work everytime by swiping them instead of pressing them. I don't really mind non removable battery or no SD (I'll never fill 32Gb). The screen should be good now, I don't know if you had to get yours replaced, but at first they used to replace it with a ****ty screen which had tinted whites and poor contrast.

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Can you tell me which flaws still remain? The only hardware flaws I found with this phone were the unresponsive dots but I learned to get them to work everytime by swiping them instead of pressing them. I don't really mind non removable battery or no SD (I'll never fill 32Gb). The screen should be good now, I don't know if you had to get yours replaced, but at first they used to replace it with a ****ty screen which had tinted whites and poor contrast.
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The software flaws that annouyed me were how slow and stuttery it was (is it still like that on stock?), camera button that worked half the time when going from sleep to snap (that feature was also advertised but it didn't work), terrible autofocus, and there were some bugs with the facebook thingy and some widgets, IIRC.
Also, if you could link me to a changelog of the new firmwares that came out recently I'd appreciate it.
Ah, sorry for the double post.

It's a good phone, but don't ask for miracles.

Buy one. Unlock it and flash a JB rom
Sent from my Jellybean Xperia S

[Q] Hoping for help with S3 smoothness issues.

I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks

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I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks
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For your browser issue, try Dolphin Beta.
For games like Real Racing, it wasn't made for the S3, therefor, it can't achieve full gfx. A fix to the choopyness would be to look into custom ROMs (Either TW or AOSP based). If it's something that interest you, you have a lot of reading to do before jumping into it but once you understand how it works, it's fairly simple.

tw557 said:
I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks
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Some possible changes to make:
1. for browser, I use the AOSP browser because it is superior in speed and usability to any other browser I try
2. you could switch to another AOSP rom that will have less bloatware and no skin on top of it slowing it down (this will be slight change)
3. to fix laginess on certain points you can try flashing a different kernel with various tweaks that increase butteryness
4. root and overclock the minimum cpu frequency. While this won't help with graphics too much in games (thats GPU), it will help with laggy transitions. Be forewarned, this might decrease battery life depending on what you end up changing the minimum to
If I have helped, slap that thanks button please

Thanks for the quick reply. I did try different browers and did settle on the dolphin. It really seemed very little better then the stock browser but the stock browser has the RRS reader pop up in the bar if applicable and I like that feature like the iphone. Some of the choppy webpages are also somewhat choppy on an iphone too. just not as bad. I was hoping to not get into rooting and Roms and figured a stock S3 should be plenty good now. When you say that the games are now programmed for the S3. are they not programmed for the S3 or Android in general. Do these costom roms adjust the programming somehow. I assume not too much issue to do the root but not familiar in detail of the Rom procedures. Would downloading the S3 toolkit from here be a good starting point. Jailbreaking the Iphone was stupid easy.

tw557 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I did try different browers and did settle on the dolphin. It really seemed very little better then the stock browser but the stock browser has the RRS reader pop up in the bar if applicable and I like that feature like the iphone. Some of the choppy webpages are also somewhat choppy on an iphone too. just not as bad. I was hoping to not get into rooting and Roms and figured a stock S3 should be plenty good now. When you say that the games are now programmed for the S3. are they not programmed for the S3 or Android in general. Do these costom roms adjust the programming somehow. I assume not too much issue to do the root but not familiar in detail of the Rom procedures. Would downloading the S3 toolkit from here be a good starting point. Jailbreaking the Iphone was stupid easy.
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It's really easy, just gotta read and understand what you're doing before going into it.
Getting a toolkit can be a start. Although, you can skip that and download pre-rooted stock ROM for your carrier.
Here's a good guide to start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822308 - I would download GooManager from the market and install TWRP recovery instead of installing CWM recovery like that guide suggests. It's quite simple, just hit a couple buttons
Once you're rooted and have a custom recovery, you can install a ROM from the Dev section (TW or AOSP).

Thanks for all the input and direction to the thread on rooting and Roms. I am very good and can understand directions for this stuff just gets a little overwhelming researching this and seemingless see so many different methods with small variations and then through the word Bricking in too. I love to customize and make stuff my own so i'm pretty sure I will give this a try. Thanks

I am ready to give the rooting a try. I expected a little less confusion then what I'm seeing. I ran across the Casual tool which looked interesting as compared to the download drivers then odin and unziping files and such. As I looked over the list of computer systems I don't see Vista business listed. Will this be a problem. Also does it make a difference if ICS or jellybean. Thanks again

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I am ready to give the rooting a try. I expected a little less confusion then what I'm seeing. I ran across the Casual tool which looked interesting as compared to the download drivers then odin and unziping files and such. As I looked over the list of computer systems I don't see Vista business listed. Will this be a problem. Also does it make a difference if ICS or jellybean. Thanks again
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sorry to hear that you are on vista but it should do the job, my windows 8 even works fine. it doesn't matter which rooted stock rom you flash, but I would recommend flashing Jelly Bean rather than ICS just because well its newer
oh and for first custom rom, I would recommend, Carbon Rom nightlies, they are stable and smooth and have a lot of customization http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136846

[Q] New to the Phone, What should I do?

Hello OG's!!! I have been lurking here for about week trying to decide between the S4, OG, and One. I went with the OG because the handset was just too gorgeous, even if it was released 10 months ago, the specs are still on par with anything being released right now. So I took the free upgrade to the OG instead of forking out for the others. My question (as an avid flasher) is what were you looking to correct when you flashed the phone. I always ended up flashing because I hated the skins or I wanted to go from GB to ICS to JB. So for those here who have jumped into rooting this phone, what was it that you felt the need to improve? Battery life? Just straight up AOSP? Wonky camera software? I've been playing for a couple of hours and so far I am happy with the camera (a little patience is required to get a really good shot) and I'm flipping around through the OS and the skin seems to be pretty light compared to HTC and Samsung. I think if I just load Holo Launcher and disable some apps I might be happy on stock. Until 4.3 or KLP get released.

Androidawg said:
Hello OG's!!! I have been lurking here for about week trying to decide between the S4, OG, and One. I went with the OG because the handset was just too gorgeous, even if it was released 10 months ago, the specs are still on par with anything being released right now. So I took the free upgrade to the OG instead of forking out for the others. My question (as an avid flasher) is what were you looking to correct when you flashed the phone. I always ended up flashing because I hated the skins or I wanted to go from GB to ICS to JB. So for those here who have jumped into rooting this phone, what was it that you felt the need to improve? Battery life? Just straight up AOSP? Wonky camera software? I've been playing for a couple of hours and so far I am happy with the camera (a little patience is required to get a really good shot) and I'm flipping around through the OS and the skin seems to be pretty light compared to HTC and Samsung. I think if I just load Holo Launcher and disable some apps I might be happy on stock. Until 4.3 or KLP get released.
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Welcome to the community!
Glad you chose the OG, It's an awesome phone, with a great dev community

Androidawg said:
Hello OG's!!! I have been lurking here for about week trying to decide between the S4, OG, and One. I went with the OG because the handset was just too gorgeous, even if it was released 10 months ago, the specs are still on par with anything being released right now. So I took the free upgrade to the OG instead of forking out for the others. My question (as an avid flasher) is what were you looking to correct when you flashed the phone. I always ended up flashing because I hated the skins or I wanted to go from GB to ICS to JB. So for those here who have jumped into rooting this phone, what was it that you felt the need to improve? Battery life? Just straight up AOSP? Wonky camera software? I've been playing for a couple of hours and so far I am happy with the camera (a little patience is required to get a really good shot) and I'm flipping around through the OS and the skin seems to be pretty light compared to HTC and Samsung. I think if I just load Holo Launcher and disable some apps I might be happy on stock. Until 4.3 or KLP get released.
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As far as the camera, download the Google Play Edition Camera apk. Way better. As far as launchers, go with either nova launcher or Apex launcher with a JB Skin. I use it over holo launcher because I can hide apps in the app drawer and make the search bar persistent. I also use Holo Locker as my lock screen.
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda premium

This is an awesome phone with great devs. Just make sure you unlock the bootloader before debloating
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This device is one of the best you can get, and at the same time, can be one of the biggest pains you can buy as well. But, with some patience, balls, and a little insight, you can be running anything you want. If your interests are more towards stock, Lifeless and Vectus are both very good ROMs with plenty of features. If you prefer custom ROMs with lots of extras and choices, I personally would recommend one of the ROMs I work on, Beanstalk and JellyBeer. There are also AOKP, CM10, CM10 w/ Linaro, Rootbox, and others that will give you pretty much any kind of experience you want. Just make sure you read the rooting and unlocking thread very carefully and follow the instructions to the letter to avoid any hiccups. Also worth mentioning is the fact that all ROMs do have quirks and imperfections to them(I believe Lifeless is as close to complete stability as you can get, but it also is as close to stock as any of the others). All of these works are constantly being updated with fixes and new features, but our device can be finicky, so if you require total stability, you may just want to stay with stock. If you need any help, you can PM me, and if you want to learn to build on your own, take a look at Project Rookie II. Be cool

Welcome. I myself had to make a decision between this and the other 2 phones. I'm glad in a way I went with this 1. Its definitely on par with the other "big names" and its just as good spec wise. Only problem i have is the camera when its zoomed. I'm going to try the google play edition like danny stated. As far as rom goes, I believe Lifeless has pretty much the most stable rom going. Its pretty much stock but without bloat. Battery has been good to me, only app that I had problems with was Pro Player, so I got GMMP and its been better on the battery. Great phone overall but kit didn't get the recognition it deserved.
I dont really know LG's track record on phones, but I hope they dont EOL it before KLP. I have a feeling they will because OG2 and OG Pro are out, but then again like I said I dont know how LG works.

I am still completely stock, just added a new launcher, locker, and the Play Camera. I have a completely working photosphere (awesome, something I really missed from my Gal Nex). I have noticed that when taking macro shots, the Play Camera focuses better. But I was able to get some decent macro shots on the stock camera by getting the focus set from farther back and zooming in. I am still tinkering with white balance and ISO settings. But the flash seems to be bright as the sun and I can't do much with it, my pics keep getting washed out with the flash. But the performance, holy crap this thing is fun to use. Everything just pops.