To those with 003 and Epson and applied the fix......Well? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Was all the fuss about the cap worth it? Aside the screen tearing, is there really a noticeable difference? Do games run better? Is scrolling really smoother?

fix what fix ?

Where is this fix? and how do we tell what screen we have?

30 FPS fix is what this guy is talking about.

vinscuzzy said:
Was all the fuss about the cap worth it? Aside the screen tearing, is there really a noticeable difference? Do games run better? Is scrolling really smoother?
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Yes the difference is quite noticeable, whole phone runs alot smoother and faster, better touch response, etc. That being said the screen tearing is pretty bad and it obviously comes with the other problems of breaking the camera and all that.

Anyway to those who might have been able to test it, Would say it has noticeable difference even if it didn't. What I mean is the folks who probably were not aware of it before are the ones who would most likely just jump and say it's better. Compared to those who noticed right off the back, if that makes sense.

These two threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6915937#post6915937
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704889&page=48
I have hardware revision 003 but I haven't tried the fix yet. My lag was never really that significant in the first place and I'm planning on replacing this when Sprint gets their updated batches with the light leak and screen fixes so I don't want to root yet. I'd rather hold off until there's a stable ROM with all the features working. (Camera is a necessity, unfortunately)

This is my first Android phone, and coming from a Touch Pro 2, I found the responsiveness slightly better on the the Evo than on the TP2.
I have a friend who has the Sprint HTC Hero, and I noticed his screen shifts and overall responsiveness to be waaaaay better.
I can say now having applied the fix, the UI is as snappy on the EVO as it is on the Hero. As far as games go, it's a lot smoother.
So I'll say this, from the perspective of a first time user, minus the bad press and forum posts, the Evo is a great phone. With the fix, it's even better!
Edit: Let me add that while I was not pleased in having a phone where the features were halved, this was still the phone for me. Having a technical background AND knowing HTC's history, as well as the history of the devs (ie GPS functionality in the Moguls), I knew it was a matter of time for the fix to be found. But I can definitely view this from the perspective of the non-technical person who don't want to fool with rooting anything. They want something that works out of the box. I may not agree with the "whining" of some, I could relate.

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Evo 3d owners

Any buyers remorse? I for one so retreated upgrading my line and wished I waited a lousy month and a half more.
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Any buyers remorse? I for one so retreated upgrading my line and wished I waited a lousy month and a half more.
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definitely, i got the 3d on launch date.. was hoping for more but i just don't have the same feeling i did when i got the evo 4g.. so i will be getting the epic touch, but i'll also keep my 3d for the hell of it..lol
me did not like it
3d was not good
screen colors looked really bad
screen was tilted
bad viewing angles
bad camera
very meh phone
speed was not that great, the bionic was noticeably faster than it
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me did not like it
3d was not good
screen colors looked really bad
screen was tilted
bad viewing angles
bad camera
very meh phone
speed was not that great, the bionic was noticeably faster than it
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same way i feel, and i went in very open minded.. i gave it a huge chance hoping it would live up to the og evo but to no avail.
I'm just trying to figure a way I could land a epic touch. I have a OG epic and a 3D I'm sure one needs to be sold...decisions decisions
Some of you same guys will be saying the same thing about SG II when a newer better phone comes out lol. Some of you talking about the speed of the phone is slow. My Evo3d has never had a problem or any lag doing anything. Now if all you want to do is look at benchmarks and brag then I guess the SG II wins lol. But for day to day usage E3d runs fine. I'll take realistic looking colors vs over saturated colors where white look like yellow.
Not saying the SGII is a crappy phone, but I guarantee it will have its fair share of problems once the newness wears off lol
problems
I hate my 3d .... really sucks when you cant depend on the phone to stay on and just quit not responding so i can use it as an alarm ..... several times have had to reset phone because of not responding .... Evo 3d is a piece of junk ... they rushed it out and not even that fast quality control horrible at htc right now .
None here. Hated the 3d. It was a failure.. I wanted to love it but it had a few serious flaws I couldn't tolerate. Specifically the washed out screen and terrible reception
sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!
I'm switching. Not happy with the 3D. Still skeptical of Samsung though.
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Yea I fins myself reading alot about this phone and I'm guessing I'm wanting it ..now like alot of other people I need to figure out a way to get rid of my e3d. To an ex 3d user ...is it worth the trouble of selling and paying the difference to get this phone? Is it really leaps and bounds better ? My phone functions fine so you guys saying the e3d sux ass and had problems need not answer
..I want honest opinions if it lived up to the hype ..also. wanted someone to compare the camera quality between the two
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Yea I fins myself reading alot about this phone and I'm guessing I'm wanting it ..now like alot of other people I need to figure out a way to get rid of my e3d. To an ex 3d user ...is it worth the trouble of selling and paying the difference to get this phone? Is it really leaps and bounds better ? My phone functions fine so you guys saying the e3d sux ass and had problems need not answer
..I want honest opinions if it lived up to the hype ..also. wanted someone to compare the camera quality between the two
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I think you should just go to sprint and try it out. I went into my local sprint store and they had one. I was waiting to be wowed but I was not. Now that does'nt mean its a bad phone, its just not for me. I played with it for about 15 mins. There are some things I like about it but overall I'm sticking with the e3d. For one sammy should've used a qHD screen. After using the the e3d screen everything things else looks way too big on screen.
My GF has the og evo and she's using her upgrade to get the SGII so I'll have more time to compare.
It had the EVO branding so I was sold. My EVO 4G is still getting rommed to death by it's new owner and I got to use it today after a few months, it's still a beast of a phone...
...so I figured the EVO3D, while a peculiar way to follow up the 4G, would be a fantastic (of odd) continuation of it's legacy.
I couldn't have been more let down. Nothing is sacred at HTC. The screen aspect ratio of the Evo3D is downright offensive to me. My phone spends most of it's time in portrait mode...sure the resolution made up the difference so far as on-screen data is concerned I'm always constantly irritated by the aesthetic displeasure it caused me....but I swallowed that one, times they are a changin', right?
The next was the wonky power button behavior...doesn't always turn it on right, sometimes you need a battery pull, sometimes you wake up to a green light a locked up phone and a dead battery all at the same time.
And then the coup de grace, the signal strength is noticeably weaker than my EVO 4G....and I waited for an updated radio...and the past two radios just made it worse. Then HTC dropped the ball on releasing the (complete) kernel source, it's taken forever for CM7 and I'm sure it's because of HTC no cooperating...all the while Samsung is shipping unlocked phones and hiring Cyanogen himself.
After the NS4G I got for a week or two between all of the EVO 3D's I REALLY TRIED TO LOVE I realized that it was actually a very good phone. My faith in Samsung renewed.
I tried to love the EVO 3D...but I'm not a hopeless fanboy enough to eat that much trash and call it delicious. The phone sucks. There, I said it. I tried....
...and that's without mentioning that the UI experience on the 1ghz single core NS4G is MUCH smoother than a heavily modded 1800mhz dual-core EVO 3D....
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I think you should just go to sprint and try it out. I went into my local sprint store and they had one. I was waiting to be wowed but I was not. Now that does'nt mean its a bad phone, its just not for me. I played with it for about 15 mins. There are some things I like about it but overall I'm sticking with the e3d. For one sammy should've used a qHD screen. After using the the e3d screen everything things else looks way too big on screen.
My GF has the og evo and she's using her upgrade to get the SGII so I'll have more time to compare.
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I would agree with you more on that if it wasn't for the slew of random games and other apps that don't resize perfectly to the qHD. Sure, it IS the app's fault, but, the OS could handle it--and it doesn't yet...ICS I'm sure addresses this...but GB doesn't and I'm sick of waiting.
Will I be getting the Nexus Prime? Without a doubt...but I probably won't have a laundry list of reasons why the SGS2 sucked... I don't need to justify it, if I want it I get it. Period. The end. I would have been the same with the E3D if it didn't take so many opportunities to kick me while I was down.
I dont know how so many people have problems with their e3d but other than a few hiccups my phone has been fine. And thats the number 1 reason I will not install any custom roms because they usually come with problems that we spend some much time trying to fix. I had the og evo and I use to install a lot of roms. With lots of roms there were problems. With the new sense theres no need for me to install any custom roms. Apart from a few tweaks and themes I'm good.
Everything works on my e3d and I get great battery life
The evo 3d is a great phone for most people...
I personally and switching to the epic 4g touch tomorrow, and giving the 3d to my fiancee.
I am pumped for it.
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I dont know how so many people have problems with their e3d but other than a few hiccups my phone has been fine. And thats the number 1 reason I will not install any custom roms because they usually come with problems that we spend some much time trying to fix. I had the og evo and I use to install a lot of roms. With lots of roms there were problems. With the new sense theres no need for me to install any custom roms. Apart from a few tweaks and themes I'm good.
Everything works on my e3d and I get great battery life
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Honestly I think a lot of us got genuine duds...it seems almost all of us bought on release day. There was no prior platform-sister-model to the E3D. The EVO 4G had the Nexus1 that was nearly identical. The SGS2 has the entire worlds worth of SGS2s. The Shooter and Sensation were the first of that new platform.
But I'm on my 3rd E3D, though all still probably release day models, over the course of 3 months. I give up. I tried. I really did love the whole idea of the phone to start with.
So far as buggy roms goes it's usually pretty easy to tell genuinely buggy roms from solid roms with a few rare bugs...and the stock roms are not immune to bugs. I got more FC's on my bone-stock E3D than I ever got on a daily or RC of CM on my EVO 4G.
But to each their own. Though I've gotta ask, what are you doing here?
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Honestly I think a lot of us got genuine duds...it seems almost all of us bought on release day. There was no prior platform-sister-model to the E3D. The EVO 4G had the Nexus1 that was nearly identical. The SGS2 has the entire worlds worth of SGS2s. The Shooter and Sensation were the first of that new platform.
But I'm on my 3rd E3D, though all still probably release day models, over the course of 3 months. I give up. I tried. I really did love the whole idea of the phone to start with.
So far as buggy roms goes it's usually pretty easy to tell genuinely buggy roms from solid roms with a few rare bugs...and the stock roms are not immune to bugs. I got more FC's on my bone-stock E3D than I ever got on a daily or RC of CM on my EVO 4G.
But to each their own. Though I've gotta ask, what are you doing here?
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You may have gotten a dud bro. Stock roms are not immune but custome roms do mulitply the chance of more bugs. Only time I got a FC on my stock e3d is if I restore certain app from titanium backup. And I'm here because like most of your guys I love technology and gadgets, plus my GF is getting the SGII tomorrow so I'll be sticking around.
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Some of you same guys will be saying the same thing about SG II when a newer better phone comes out lol. Some of you talking about the speed of the phone is slow. My Evo3d has never had a problem or any lag doing anything. Now if all you want to do is look at benchmarks and brag then I guess the SG II wins lol. But for day to day usage E3d runs fine. I'll take realistic looking colors vs over saturated colors where white look like yellow.
Not saying the SGII is a crappy phone, but I guarantee it will have its fair share of problems once the newness wears off lol
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Using the phones everyday I think they will be similar performance lol. The biggest difference will be in the screen lol.
This phone stock blows a rooted and overclocked 3d out the water. I just switched from the 3d and its better times 10.
Better signal. Better screen...even at lower resolution ..exynos core is a BEAST..plays n64 games on emulator stock smoother than overclocked evo. Better cameras..better speakers...this thing screams dude. And most of all...its a GREAT PHONE before anything. Great call quality..stronger reception than the 3d. If your on the fence..jump man..it's worth it
sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!
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You may have gotten a dud bro. Stock roms are not immune but custome roms do mulitply the chance of more bugs. Only time I got a FC on my stock e3d is if I restore certain app from titanium backup. And I'm here because like most of your guys I love technology and gadgets, plus my GF is getting the SGII tomorrow so I'll be sticking around.
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Cool. No mal intent, honestly curious why someone who is a happy E3D owner would be here...now I know.
But, yeah, I think I got 3 (yes, three) duds...all HW001's, I'm sure that has everything to do with it. The 002's likely have a much lower failure rate and much higher tolerances.
I got FC's on every E3D I had from the music app on countless occasions, the youtube app all over the place, the browser....all reliably. In fact, until I flashed Synergy I was plagued by FC's. Again, I'm sure my hardware was at fault here.
FC's I can live with...it's no kernel panic, it's no blue screen and it happens fast and is absolved relatively fast (except for youtube which became unusable eventually...web-version, problem solved).
If the screen width (in portrait) fit my preference, if the battery life was phenomenal, if the signal strength/lock was good....any one of those...I could and would be able to completely ignore all of the things wrong with the device--and I haven't even begun. But sadly it was not to be.
Glad to have you on board either way.
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Success100 said:
This phone stock blows a rooted and overclocked 3d out the water. I just switched from the 3d and its better times 10.
Better signal. Better screen...even at lower resolution ..exynos core is a BEAST..plays n64 games on emulator stock smoother than overclocked evo. Better cameras..better speakers...this thing screams dude. And most of all...its a GREAT PHONE before anything. Great call quality..stronger reception than the 3d. If your on the fence..jump man..it's worth it
sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!
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I know you...You know me...and you are saying what we both wanted to know: So it's true? Great signal strength/holding? Tower locking? higher roam-threshold?
I can't wait,.
My biggest complaints about the evo 3d:
1. Camera Quality (in 2D and 3D), 2D pics were grainy and i could not get nice 3d effects unless i tried really hard in perfect light, etc. 3d Pictures were just a blur otherwise.
2. Meh screen
3. Dropped calls and poor reception, dropped calls in my house all the time, never did with my EVO 4g. Palm Pre reception is poor too, but still better than the E3d. EVO Shift is also very poor in my house, but better than the e3d
4. Battery life was significantly better than a stock evo (Of course, not nearly on par with EVO 4g + my savaged-zen kernel lol), I made it through a short day with minimal-moderate usage. But of course, it is likely because of the poor signal I had in my house. (I'd roam in my basement, with the OG evo i always had a signal)
That's about it, I returned it 22 days after launch day (when i got it)
It had good things too:
1. 3D was very cool, except when I took my own 3d pics/videos I couldnt get it to look right, but movies/games/etc were all very cool.
2. Sense 3.0 is usable, maybe even a little better. I still prefer AOSP, but I absolutely hated sense pre-3.0 and couldn't stand it.
3. Very quick phone, not GS2 quick, but miles ahead of the OG Evo and most phones
4. Felt better built than the OG evo. I liked the flush battery cover
Bottom line, I didn't feel it was worth an upgrade so I returned it. It's just personal preference. I skipped on the photon because of the dated tegra 2 and lack of developer support. I waited WAY longer than i wanted to on the ET4g but I'm finally getting it tomorrow and I'm excited about it.
Oh yea, I got mine on launch day right when they opened lol. I see all the people talking about random reboots and software glitches/hardware glitches. I never had any of that it was very stable, it just wasn't for me

[Q] unroot lg nitro HD using superoneclick?

I plan to return my nitro tomorrow before my 14 days is up. It's rooted with superoneclick. Should I bother trying to unroot? Would hate to brick it without a recovery rom available.
It won't brick you phone, I've done it several times already.
In my personal experience the clerks don't bother check the condition of the software on the phone, they turn it on (or not) and that's it.
And besides, if it's bricked, well, there is always a wall charger to blame
P.S.
What are you getting instead?
My mind isn't completely made up yet. I want to love the nitro but the occasional lag, poor scrolling, and battery life is what's ruining it for me. RAM manager has made a difference in app switching. I've been watching you guys closely hoping for proof of an unlocked bootloader as I'm sure another rom or hardware accelerated browsing in ics will make all the difference.
If i ditch it, ill probably just go back to my iPhone 4 for a couple months and see if the at&t version of the nexus gets LTE. I love this display, but don't know if I want to commit to the phone for 2 years. Will let you know what I decide.
Thank [email protected] Unroot worked without any problems. I decided to return it and wait and see what you all can find in the next few weeks. I played with the skyrocket and nitro side by side in the store.. what a difference. The skyrocket is buttery smooth. I would jump on it in a heart beat if there weren't those huge pixels staring me in the face . The HTC Vivid actually felt like a decent compromise if compromises had to be made. Nice qHD display and pretty smooth. I still believe the Nitro has the potential to be the top dog, but not in it's current state.
Keep up the good work. I'd love to see new software on the fantastic hardware.
The display on this is fantastic. I can feel your pain as it's not as smooth as the Skyrocket. I'm not a huge fan of the super amoled - especially compared to this. I have switched to the Zeam launcher and it has made a pretty nice difference. I'm hoping there will be an interim release by LG/AT&T to speed things up and fix some of the other minor bugs.
And most importantly hoping the dev successes continue and we can get some nice custom ROMs going (especially ICS).
I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.
Don't you get 30 days to return?
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I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.
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what about bloatware? how much of it there? Maybe that's the reason it's smoother?
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Don't you get 30 days to return?
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Yes, you have 30 days. Every Nitro owner who bought from Att should be able to return it since it came out this month.
[email protected],
I'd actually say there is at least as much, if not more bloatware. I really can't explain why, but navigating through menus and scrolling through apps just feels smoother. Now, I had never done a factory reset and reformatted my SD card until my fiasco, so it's possible that helped and that the Nitro rom might feel smoother when I get back to it.
Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.
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Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.
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Are you kidding me, this phone is Soooo Much smoother after doing a hard reset, even with bloatware still on it. Even now the Atrix feel so much more sluggish compared to this phone. I dont understand wat people are complaining about this phone. Yes, there's many kinks on this phone that LG never took care of, but that's why we have XDA and the great minds in it, that is to improve the phones we have.
You know wat, Go ahead, go and change your phones to the GS II. And when the Nitro HD gets a significant improvement in the sense of ROMs or any other upgrades, all of you who left this phone behind can weep and regret your decisions
Compare an iPhone or skyrocket. There's a huge difference in smoothness vs the nitro.. especially with the web browser (even opera). Even rooted with ram manager and hard reset, it just doesn't compare. Saying there isn't a difference is like my friend's saying they don't see the big pixels in the s ii. Say what you want about iphones, but i think they have spoiled me in terms of user interaction.
All that said, I agree the phone has tremendous potential and will most likely outshine the s ii when all is said and done.. My guess is that some of the lag involves software rendering of the 1280x720. Scroll around and watch the nitro's CPU spike. Custom roms or ICS much resolve some of this which is why I'm going to wait it out a few more weeks or months too see what unfolds before committing to the device long term.

Considering an S3, but have questions!

It has been about 8 months since I've had a "modern" Android phone, I was really frustrated with the lackluster experience of my Tmo Sensation--it was a dual-core but it honestly didn't seem much better than my Mytouch4g, or my MT3G slide. Many times I would find myself with a laggy experience, which is why I am so hesitant with newer phones still...Well that and the level of development is normally a tadd sketchy and rough around the edges for T-Mobile devices.
1. Is there a high interest in development?
-I know this may sound like a silly question, however it's essential for me because I have had terrible experiences with Samsung dev support for the two Sammies I've owned(Sidekick 4G+Galaxy Player 5). I know the S3 is from may but I would really hate to spend all this money just to find out it's development will play out like the Sidekick 4G's did(never passed froyo, and the player never passed ginger).
2. Bleeding: Is screen bleeding a common issue, and if it is does it get worse over time?
3. How do you guys feel about the CPU/GPU? (can anyone tell me the "min" cpu value?)
4. How do you feel about the screen quality?(this will be my 1st AMOLED & 720P device)
5. Do you experience lag? (if enough people say there's lag that will really turn me away--it's one of those nitpicks that I will not lose...I mean I have a iP4 that's smoother than recent phones--which is saying a lot honestly. )
6. Can someone please explain the whole IMEI loss to me? ( I am willing to remain stock if it means Devs can find a solution--I've rooted, flashed, adb'd, and what not many times but the risks are higher with the S3)
7. If anyone of you are using a S3 in nyc, can you please tell me what kind of data speed it's tugging?
(my sensation had pretty bad 4G/HSPA+ #'s which is why I'm asking this now)
8. Is the 2GB RAM a superfluous feature, or does it partially future-proof the device for 4.x or 5.x?
I know I am asking a lot from you guys, though you have to understand that I don't want to get trapped in a renewed contract with a device that will be cut loose only a few months only after release. I am not into the whole scam of receiving 1 update(as in going from 1 android ver to another) and then never hearing of anything again.
Bump. Doesn't anyone have any input about this phone? -_-
Most if not all of your question are answered in other post, people just get tired and rewriting everything. So dont expect the same questions to get answered every time.
So your coming from some less desired devices, you will deff see dev support on a much higher level. I mean this is the Galaxy S 3 not some low end device.
My advice is make the jump or go try it for the 14 days and return if ya dont like it ( i bet you will like it).
Well good luck,
Trilaxx
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So your coming from some less desired devices
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Actually the G1, Mytouch 4g, and sensation were really active with many projects. It's just that my experience with samsung phones is a bit shaky.
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I mean this is the Galaxy S 3 not some low end device.
My advice is make the jump or go try it for the 14 days and return if ya dont like it ( i bet you will like it).
Well good luck,
Trilaxx
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That's what people said about the Amaze 4G, Rezound, Galaxy SII(tmo), and Galaxy S Blaze...Those aren't low end but they never took off development wise. I am wondering whether or not Devs are scared away due to the S4 being in the Galaxy instead of the Exynos--so far I see about 20+ ROMs for the int'l S3 and 1-5 active ones for this S3. That is why I show great hesitation with new Android phones, their futures are always uncertain if the device isn't international or a Nexus. I tried this device briefly at a tmo store and I though it was really okay, but that's cause it was hooked up to a display stand so I couldn't get a real feel for it.
I came from the sensation to the S3 and am very happy.
It really all comes down to how you use your phone. I did like HTC sense, and sense 4.0 was nice through some of the custom roms available.
But the S3, in my opinion is way better. But its going to come down to your personal opinion.
I have not had any problems with the phone- granted I got it 2 weeks ago and not at release so I haven't had it too long. But still no problems.
THe screen is very nice, again in my opinion. There are some that say they don't like it and it could be better.
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I came from the sensation to the S3 and am very happy.
It really all comes down to how you use your phone. I did like HTC sense, and sense 4.0 was nice through some of the custom roms available.
But the S3, in my opinion is way better. But its going to come down to your personal opinion.
I have not had any problems with the phone- granted I got it 2 weeks ago and not at release so I haven't had it too long. But still no problems.
THe screen is very nice, again in my opinion. There are some that say they don't like it and it could be better.
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Well since you've owed a Sensation, can you tell me if you notice a difference in performance. I mainly ditched the Sensation because it didn't seem very fast, it lagged very often but keep in mind this was before ICS was out for it. Honestly I have lost faith in Qualcomm's competence--they really threw me off when they made their S3's as a A8/A9 design.
Thats probably one of the main reasons I switched from the sensation... that and i couldn't seem to find one with a speaker phone I could actually hear...
I haven't noticied any lag at all on the S3. Not like the sensation. It was definitely noticeable, esp on the stock rom. I've only had S3 for about 2 weeks and love it. I haven't tried any custom roms yet, but have rooted and installed google wallet which works great. I still haven't tweeked it too much or loaded it up with apps and media.
Keep in mind, you have 14 days to decide if you like the phone.
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Actually the G1, Mytouch 4g, and sensation were really active with many projects. It's just that my experience with samsung phones is a bit shaky.
That's what people said about the Amaze 4G, Rezound, Galaxy SII(tmo), and Galaxy S Blaze...Those aren't low end but they never took off development wise. I am wondering whether or not Devs are scared away due to the S4 being in the Galaxy instead of the Exynos--so far I see about 20+ ROMs for the int'l S3 and 1-5 active ones for this S3. That is why I show great hesitation with new Android phones, their futures are always uncertain if the device isn't international or a Nexus. I tried this device briefly at a tmo store and I though it was really okay, but that's cause it was hooked up to a display stand so I couldn't get a real feel for it.
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Im coming from the Mytouch 4g, followed by the HTC Sensation. Their is not a better device on the market then the s3.
My First thoughts were, its a little bigger than i hoped. But after a week worth of use, Anything smaller seems obsolete.
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Ace42 said:
Well since you've owed a Sensation, can you tell me if you notice a difference in performance. I mainly ditched the Sensation because it didn't seem very fast, it lagged very often but keep in mind this was before ICS was out for it. Honestly I have lost faith in Qualcomm's competence--they really threw me off when they made their S3's as a A8/A9 design.
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Its a completely different animal. I can promise it will meet and exceed your expectations.
On another note. I average 18+ hours of pretty decent usage.
My sensation goes on the charger @ noon typically. Not this. I get home with 40% left..
1SiK1500 said:
Im coming from the Mytouch 4g, followed by the HTC Sensation. Their is not a better device on the market then the s3.
My First thoughts were, its a little bigger than i hoped. But after a week worth of use, Anything smaller seems obsolete.
Its a completely different animal. I can promise it will meet and exceed your expectations.
On another note. I average 18+ hours of pretty decent usage.
My sensation goes on the charger @ noon typically. Not this. I get home with 40% left..
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Well that is very good news, I prefer to hear experiences from people who have at least owned similar or same phones as myself.
pytyper483 said:
Thats probably one of the main reasons I switched from the sensation... that and i couldn't seem to find one with a speaker phone I could actually hear...
I haven't noticied any lag at all on the S3. Not like the sensation. It was definitely noticeable, esp on the stock rom. I've only had S3 for about 2 weeks and love it. I haven't tried any custom roms yet, but have rooted and installed google wallet which works great. I still haven't tweeked it too much or loaded it up with apps and media.
Keep in mind, you have 14 days to decide if you like the phone.
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Well I am happy to hear that it's not a mess like the Sensation. It had a nice look to it, but speed wise it was a joke for a dualcore phone. If you say there's no lag on ICS, then I can only imagine what would happen if it got JB+project butter. I guess you have put my fear of lag to rest. However I will wait a little while longer to see if Dev support picks up, right now it seems to be where tmobile's SII+amaze were at in their early life(which was a bad place). Once I see at least 10 active aosp/aopk/CM10 ROMs I will definitely get one. Thanks for everything! :fingers-crossed:
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It has been about 8 months since I've had a "modern" Android phone, I was really frustrated with the lackluster experience of my Tmo Sensation--it was a dual-core but it honestly didn't seem much better than my Mytouch4g, or my MT3G slide. Many times I would find myself with a laggy experience, which is why I am so hesitant with newer phones still...Well that and the level of development is normally a tadd sketchy and rough around the edges for T-Mobile devices.
1. Is there a high interest in development?
-I know this may sound like a silly question, however it's essential for me because I have had terrible experiences with Samsung dev support for the two Sammies I've owned(Sidekick 4G+Galaxy Player 5). I know the S3 is from may but I would really hate to spend all this money just to find out it's development will play out like the Sidekick 4G's did(never passed froyo, and the player never passed ginger).
2. Bleeding: Is screen bleeding a common issue, and if it is does it get worse over time?
3. How do you guys feel about the CPU/GPU? (can anyone tell me the "min" cpu value?)
4. How do you feel about the screen quality?(this will be my 1st AMOLED & 720P device)
5. Do you experience lag? (if enough people say there's lag that will really turn me away--it's one of those nitpicks that I will not lose...I mean I have a iP4 that's smoother than recent phones--which is saying a lot honestly. )
6. Can someone please explain the whole IMEI loss to me? ( I am willing to remain stock if it means Devs can find a solution--I've rooted, flashed, adb'd, and what not many times but the risks are higher with the S3)
7. If anyone of you are using a S3 in nyc, can you please tell me what kind of data speed it's tugging?
(my sensation had pretty bad 4G/HSPA+ #'s which is why I'm asking this now)
8. Is the 2GB RAM a superfluous feature, or does it partially future-proof the device for 4.x or 5.x?
I know I am asking a lot from you guys, though you have to understand that I don't want to get trapped in a renewed contract with a device that will be cut loose only a few months only after release. I am not into the whole scam of receiving 1 update(as in going from 1 android ver to another) and then never hearing of anything again.
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1) The phone has been out for a month so development is merely getting started. It will pick up as time goes by and we will see major roms like cyanogen andothers here (CM9 already and cm10 preview available). Many custom made kernels out there that are amazing.
2) Haven't head of screen bleeding on this device and mine (2 days old) has none. Be warned if you have not heard about the black splotches look into it. When screen is on and completely black you may notice some black splotches around the screen (you wont notice on day to day use unless you try to look. Every device varies you might get one with minimal blotches. This is a side effect of the AMOLED.
3) I believe stock cpu was set at 1.4ghz and I'm not sure what min was. Currently have mine overclocked to 1.89ghz max and 385mhz min.I camefrom the HTC one S and they have the same cpu. The snapdragon S4 is a powerhouse bro you will love the fluidity and performance here,
4) I first compared my HTC One S HDLED screen to my friends samsung blaze and I fell in love with the AMOLED screen. It is just has more POP and vibrant colors. You will love it, idk how anyone can dislike this screen it is beautiful and blasphemy to those who use it on anything lower than max brightness.
5) Only time I have experienced lag has been when messing with the CPU clock and when my min profiles are set on setcput to anything lower than 1ghz
6) As far as I know the IMEI loss has been happening when flashing recoveries or flashing cyanogen using a recovery other than CWM. I Rooted and flashed CWM with no problem. Still havent flashed CM9 until it is more "complete" and I make sure the IMEI issue is not ROM flashing related. (again i have been browsing the forums for only 2 days so im still learning the issues here)
7) I live in the Bronx and work in Manhattan. The data speeds in my apartment suck compared to my HTC One S. I was getting 2-5mbps down and up on it but on the S3 I am rarely pulling past 1mbps down and up. This doesn't matter to me as I have wifi on 24/7 at home. At work (85th and Amsterdam I pull an amazing 15-20mbps down and 3-5mbps up in that area. I go giddy when doing speed tests at work.
8) No device is future proof but the 2gb will help keep the device more current as different Android versions are developed. It is also beneficial when dealing with many apps opening one after another multitasking and such. IF you are a power user it is beneficial. To most it's the same as 1gb
Hope I've helped.
elracing21 said:
1) The phone has been out for a month so development is merely getting started. It will pick up as time goes by and we will see major roms like cyanogen andothers here (CM9 already and cm10 preview available). Many custom made kernels out there that are amazing.
2) Haven't head of screen bleeding on this device and mine (2 days old) has none. Be warned if you have not heard about the black splotches look into it. When screen is on and completely black you may notice some black splotches around the screen (you wont notice on day to day use unless you try to look. Every device varies you might get one with minimal blotches. This is a side effect of the AMOLED.
3) I believe stock cpu was set at 1.4ghz and I'm not sure what min was. Currently have mine overclocked to 1.89ghz max and 385mhz min.I camefrom the HTC one S and they have the same cpu. The snapdragon S4 is a powerhouse bro you will love the fluidity and performance here,
4) I first compared my HTC One S HDLED screen to my friends samsung blaze and I fell in love with the AMOLED screen. It is just has more POP and vibrant colors. You will love it, idk how anyone can dislike this screen it is beautiful and blasphemy to those who use it on anything lower than max brightness.
5) Only time I have experienced lag has been when messing with the CPU clock and when my min profiles are set on setcput to anything lower than 1ghz
6) As far as I know the IMEI loss has been happening when flashing recoveries or flashing cyanogen using a recovery other than CWM. I Rooted and flashed CWM with no problem. Still havent flashed CM9 until it is more "complete" and I make sure the IMEI issue is not ROM flashing related. (again i have been browsing the forums for only 2 days so im still learning the issues here)
7) I live in the Bronx and work in Manhattan. The data speeds in my apartment suck compared to my HTC One S. I was getting 2-5mbps down and up on it but on the S3 I am rarely pulling past 1mbps down and up. This doesn't matter to me as I have wifi on 24/7 at home. At work (85th and Amsterdam I pull an amazing 15-20mbps down and 3-5mbps up in that area. I go giddy when doing speed tests at work.
8) No device is future proof but the 2gb will help keep the device more current as different Android versions are developed. It is also beneficial when dealing with many apps opening one after another multitasking and such. IF you are a power user it is beneficial. To most it's the same as 1gb
Hope I've helped.
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Thanks for answering all of my questions. From all of the responses it sounds like I will be able to get the S3 without having to worry anymore. However I hope tmobile increases the 4G speeds in the bronx to match those of manhattan at least. :fingers-crossed:
Ace42 said:
Thanks for answering all of my questions. From all of the responses it sounds like I will be able to get the S3 without having to worry anymore. However I hope tmobile increases the 4G speeds in the bronx to match those of manhattan at least. :fingers-crossed:
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You are welcome bro. Don't get me wrong most of the Bronx does have terrible speed in comparison to Manhattan but there are a few areas where the speeds have surprised me. Like a train stop away from here I get great speeds. 10mbps on avg.
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the only problem i had and it happened with 3 from tmobile was the phone was getting very warm. so i got the note from t mobile and the performance difference is very noticable. the s3 is a power house fast internet load speeds smooth and the screen compared to the already beautiful screen on the note is sharper and brighter. I had the black crush issue with the note blacks were horrid so i received another s3 today i have them both in front of me and love em both but am gonna stick with the s3 because of the performance and the screen. If the new note has the inners of the s3 and a 5.3-5.5 inch screen the s3 will be history i love the size of the note..what im trying to say i would not buy a phone with anything less then the s4 snapdragon in .Plus if you want to upgrade the s3 will be desirable and hold its value for a while so you could sell in the future for the next best thing..

[Q] Is this phone still buggy and problematic?

I was thinking about re-buying it, even though it disappointed me back then when I had it. It was recently updated to ICS and I found it to be laggy, especially in the homescreen and with a livewallpaper, then it had also a bunch of bugs, the most annoying one was the camera button not working all the time when trying to snap a quick photo without turning on the display and everything, and the autofocus being slow and crappy in video recording. There were more bugs but I don't remember them too well.
Also, back then they all had the crappy screen with yellow tints, I got mine replaced but even the replaced screen was rather crappy, with inferior color reproduction, and yellowish whites, in comparison to the old screen which looked AMAZING, except for the dark yellow patches.
Tell me if it has gotten better in these few months, it should have gotten a bunch of updates too.
Also, can you tell me if games run well? My favourite android games that didn't run too well back then were Wind Up Knight, Let's Golf 3, Asphalt 6, and probably a couple more but I don't remember. I'd also like to know benchmark scores in NenaMark2, Antutu and Quadrant, I'm willing to install custom kernel and customized stock based roms.
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I was thinking about re-buying it, even though it disappointed me back then when I had it. It was recently updated to ICS and I found it to be laggy, especially in the homescreen and with a livewallpaper, then it had also a bunch of bugs, the most annoying one was the camera button not working all the time when trying to snap a quick photo without turning on the display and everything, and the autofocus being slow and crappy in video recording. There were more bugs but I don't remember them too well.
Also, back then they all had the crappy screen with yellow tints, I got mine replaced but even the replaced screen was rather crappy, with inferior color reproduction, and yellowish whites, in comparison to the old screen which looked AMAZING, except for the dark yellow patches.
Tell me if it has gotten better in these few months, it should have gotten a bunch of updates too.
Also, can you tell me if games run well? My favourite android games that didn't run too well back then were Wind Up Knight, Let's Golf 3, Asphalt 6, and probably a couple more but I don't remember.
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Its a damn good phone, but if you didnt like it then you probably wont know. Most of those bugs are gone and my screen looks good. I run games just fine, but I am not a major gamer.
Probably should have put which phone you are talking about and put this is the QA section. I assume it is the Xperia S.
Yeah, it's the XS, I'm sorry.
My main problem with it was the disappointing performance. It literally ran less smoothly than my old Xperia Ray, and I tried EVERYTHING except for custom kernels, because there weren't many back then. I'm willing to try them now, if they do make a big difference.
I don't remember on what firmware was I though.
Which bugs still persist?
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Yeah, it's the XS, I'm sorry.
My main problem with it was the disappointing performance. It literally ran less smoothly than my old Xperia Ray, and I tried EVERYTHING except for custom kernels, because there weren't many back then. I'm willing to try them now, if they do make a big difference.
I don't remember on what firmware was I though.
Which bugs still persist?
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Custom roms make a big difference. There really aren't any bugs that bother me that are still around. Its definitely one of the best Sony phones for dev support. On KA20.1 its really fast. I can't say enough positive things about this phone and I have owned one since it first came out. I has its flaws but there are no perfect phones.
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Custom roms make a big difference. There really aren't any bugs that bother me that are still around. Its definitely one of the best Sony phones for dev support. On KA20.1 its really fast. I can't say enough positive things about this phone and I have owned one since it first came out. I has its flaws but there are no perfect phones.
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Can you tell me which flaws still remain? The only hardware flaws I found with this phone were the unresponsive dots but I learned to get them to work everytime by swiping them instead of pressing them. I don't really mind non removable battery or no SD (I'll never fill 32Gb). The screen should be good now, I don't know if you had to get yours replaced, but at first they used to replace it with a ****ty screen which had tinted whites and poor contrast.
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Can you tell me which flaws still remain? The only hardware flaws I found with this phone were the unresponsive dots but I learned to get them to work everytime by swiping them instead of pressing them. I don't really mind non removable battery or no SD (I'll never fill 32Gb). The screen should be good now, I don't know if you had to get yours replaced, but at first they used to replace it with a ****ty screen which had tinted whites and poor contrast.
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The software flaws that annouyed me were how slow and stuttery it was (is it still like that on stock?), camera button that worked half the time when going from sleep to snap (that feature was also advertised but it didn't work), terrible autofocus, and there were some bugs with the facebook thingy and some widgets, IIRC.
Also, if you could link me to a changelog of the new firmwares that came out recently I'd appreciate it.
Ah, sorry for the double post.
It's a good phone, but don't ask for miracles.
Buy one. Unlock it and flash a JB rom
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SO! How are you finding your shiney new HTC M9 ?? Is it all you thought it would be?

As the title states.
Personally I love this phone, it's kind of like a really cool car, like an alpha romeo which has it's faults but just for the simple fact of the way it's made and the way it feels, I wouldn't change it.
EDIT: Maybe the battery life
Feel free to have a moan
I love the case I have and the way it perfectly matches the phone. It's a body glove and the phone is the darker one.
Video won't resume when going from the recent apps. It opens then disappears.
I love the speakers on front. When HTC did that year's ago I was amazed. Then I thought everyone should. I think it's crazy stupid not to. Sounds good too.
Screen is OK. I'd like bigger though and way better viewing angle. Gets dark when it's laying flat on my bed and I'm reading the web. I don't want to always hold it.
Keyboard is terrible in my opinion. Samsung works way better for me. I want keys a bit bigger and darker with numbers on top and much better auto correction. Swiftkey didn't work well enough for me.
Performance seems iffy. I mean I don't know if this is how things should be. I had the Verizon GS5 for 6 months like the 5th of this month so I'm used to that phone. Games sometimes jerk and seem to load no faster then on my GS5. They seem to crash much more. Games like the clash games, star Wars commander etc. Those types are all I play.
I want to disable apps I won't use so they're not always running. But this can cause issues maybe.
Battery needs a ton of help. Wish all phones had the power and 5000 mah battery would give.
I prefer Sense a little to tw and others based on color and lines separating options more in setting menus etc. Seems a bit more clean.
Have couple more days to return my phone and I'm not sure if I want to keep this and exchange for another or get a g3 or gs6. G4 not out for awhile still.
@buggs1a I hear you with the battery it isn't great but then I haven't tried to optimise it very much, once I cut out all the dead wood and find the wake locks it should be a lot better. 2 days is a possibility depending on usage. Haven't noticed the playback from video as I use MX player. Give it a whirl and use auto starts to kill off apps
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I love the case I have and the way it perfectly matches the phone. It's a body glove and the phone is the darker one.
Video won't resume when going from the recent apps. It opens then disappears.
I love the speakers on front. When HTC did that year's ago I was amazed. Then I thought everyone should. I think it's crazy stupid not to. Sounds good too.
Screen is OK. I'd like bigger though and way better viewing angle. Gets dark when it's laying flat on my bed and I'm reading the web. I don't want to always hold it.
Keyboard is terrible in my opinion. Samsung works way better for me. I want keys a bit bigger and darker with numbers on top and much better auto correction. Swiftkey didn't work well enough for me.
Performance seems iffy. I mean I don't know if this is how things should be. I had the Verizon GS5 for 6 months like the 5th of this month so I'm used to that phone. Games sometimes jerk and seem to load no faster then on my GS5. They seem to crash much more. Games like the clash games, star Wars commander etc. Those types are all I play.
I want to disable apps I won't use so they're not always running. But this can cause issues maybe.
Battery needs a ton of help. Wish all phones had the power and 5000 mah battery would give.
I prefer Sense a little to tw and others based on color and lines separating options more in setting menus etc. Seems a bit more clean.
Have couple more days to return my phone and I'm not sure if I want to keep this and exchange for another or get a g3 or gs6. G4 not out for awhile still.
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I would return it if I were you. Because much of what you mention, are not real issues, but are areas that just don't meet your desires. The screen is not going to grow, the battery is not going to grow, and the keyboard is what it is. I'm surprised you couldn't find a skin for Swiftkey that satisfied your needs. Also, it sounds like you may have an issue with your phone, as mine is buttery smooth, no crashes.
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fernandezhjr said:
I would return it if I were you. Because much of what you mention, are not real issues, but are areas that just don't meet your desires. The screen is not going to grow, the battery is not going to grow, and the keyboard is what it is. I'm surprised you couldn't find a skin for Swiftkey that satisfied your needs. Also, it sounds like you may have an issue with your phone, as mine is buttery smooth, no crashes.
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Although the battery will get better with updates
I'm averaging close to 5.5 hours of SOT on a full charge, but I'm with AT&T and am typically always in an area with a reputable signal. Apart from actual usage, and assuming there are no wakelocks going on, a phones signal is the biggest battery drainer. No signal or a weak signal will keep the phone signal searching and cause more drain on the battery. For this reason, I agree, battery life can be improved thru updates, especially if the radio firmware sees an update.
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buggs1a said:
Keyboard is terrible in my opinion. Samsung works way better for me. I want keys a bit bigger and darker with numbers on top and much better auto correction. Swiftkey didn't work well enough for me.
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I've been using the Minuum keyboard and have grown to really like it. At times it will frustrate me with it's auto-correction, but what keyboard doesn't? They have a free version to try, so maybe give it a spin.
I'm in agreement that the battery goes quick when power saver is not active. I have a feeling that it will improve with newer versions of Lollipop, Sense and perhaps even changed HTC bits that optimize the phone's performance on the 810 chipset.
Let us know which way you go...
I really like the phone! I had the S6 Edge just prior to this and went to Verizon to turn it in as I suddenly caught the auto rotate bug. The rep said this hasnt been fixed and that if it happens again I would have to go through Sammy to get a new one. Not wanting to do that I looked at the M9 and have been really happy since. It is comparable in almost every way to the S6. I do miss the edge on the edge LOL but that is sort of gimmicky.
I bought the M9 when it first came out and was very dissapointed... the first one was returned for overheating which didnt start well, I was annoyed at myself for impulse buying,. but after picking it up again a few days ago Im actually stating to enjoy it...
The camera has been improved alot (but not amazing) through the 1st firmware update and an updated camera app from the Play Store (Raw Format added) which makes me feel better about it.. although Cam still needs work. Boomsound Music Mode is great, as good as the M8.. and not the reported tinney-ness some reviews are reporting. It just has all the things I loved about the M8. For me though that "Sense Home" widget and start screen.. I dont know how this is a good idea, I find it drains the battery like nothing else, using location and tracking...
So far, battery life seems ok, I get about 2 days on Light to Modersate use - Music, Camera, BlinkFeed, I do actually like BF.. but so far.. Im happy with my M9, really like the added "Themes" engine... a nice touch.
It wouldve been nice to see HTC bump up the screen to 5.2 or even 5.5" @ 1080p (I think QHD screens on a device less than 7" is a bit unnecessary) . Just something to seperate it from the M8 other than a camera and Themes
I just hope HTC can get through this and pull out the stops for the M10.. now that Samsung are leaping their way back from the S5 fall with the S6 and LG with the amazing G4, It aint looking good for HTC. For me, they just didnt try hard enough, they just gave into internet pressure, relaced the camera and hoped for the best.. which wasnt a wise thing to do 3 years in a row from the M7.
M9 for me is looking great, just needs some fine tuning, which will hopefully come in 5.1
I exchanged my m9 for the g3 Friday yesterday. And I don't get it how videos show it has themes, but it don't.
No complaints at all coming from Xperia Z3 to M9. Happy I made the switch.
In fact it is the same feeling
It is too powerful to be contained, which is a really good thing
From the way Htc treats its flagships via software updates, i can see that this powerful machine will be even more optimised and speedy, and will get improvement in every area!
If you are not aware, the Taiwan M9 recieved an update to its base from 1.32 to 1.40 with some massive camera improvements! And it is said that people are getting past the 6 hours screen on time with the latest update, as well as reporting that the phone is a Lot cooler than the 1.32 base
So that is very great news indeed, which makes me feel very optimistic!
You see? Improved battery life, improved thermal management, improved camera performance! This is awesome
And still android 5.1.1 will boost the mobile's general perfromance with a lot of misc bug fixes and enhancements by google. The future is bright for this phone, i see
Mostafa Wael said:
In fact it is the same feeling
It is too powerful to be contained, which is a really good thing
From the way Htc treats its flagships via software updates, i can see that this powerful machine will be even more optimised and speedy, and will get improvement in every area!
If you are not aware, the Taiwan M9 recieved an update to its base from 1.32 to 1.40 with some massive camera improvements! And it is said that people are getting past the 6 hours screen on time with the latest update, as well as reporting that the phone is a Lot cooler than the 1.32 base
So that is very great news indeed, which makes me feel very optimistic!
You see? Improved battery life, improved thermal management, improved camera performance! This is awesome
And still android 5.1.1 will boost the mobile's general perfromance with a lot of misc bug fixes and enhancements by google. The future is bright for this phone, i see
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Im still on 1.32 mate, I'm running Leedroid and I'd rather he got all the issues sorted prior to a release, I've heard good and bad about 1.40, some lag with proximity and opening screen. Camera is improved by all accounts. Will see what happens.
Cheers.
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Im still on 1.32 mate, I'm running Leedroid and I'd rather he got all the issues sorted prior to a release, I've heard good and bad about 1.40, some lag with proximity and opening screen. Camera is improved by all accounts. Will see what happens.
Cheers.
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I guess that's why the 1.40 isn't rolled out to the .401 region
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I guess that's why the 1.40 isn't rolled out to the .401 region
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Not entirely sure as to why it hasn't been rolled out, I can see Lee, leapfrogging this version and going for the next one, the issues at this point appear to outweigh the benefits, besides the camera ofc
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Not entirely sure as to why it hasn't been rolled out, I can see Lee, leapfrogging this version and going for the next one, the issues at this point appear to outweigh the benefits, besides the camera ofc
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That is pure speculation on your part, unless you have some concrete evidence you can link us to.
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That is pure speculation on your part, unless you have some concrete evidence you can link us to.
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Just things I've heard around the threads to be honest. Not speculating at all..
Beyond the apparently improved camera which in all fairness isn't that much of an improvement, the white balance isn't fixed and its still far too sharp, I've heard about random reboots etc, some of this is in Lees thread too
Do a bit of reading and you'll see for yourself, I don't just make things up and I'm not about to continue a heated debate especially when someone is presumptuous towards me.
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Just things I've heard around the threads to be honest. Not speculating at all..
Beyond the apparently improved camera which in all fairness isn't that much of an improvement, the white balance isn't fixed and its still far too sharp, I've heard about random reboots etc, some of this is in Lees thread too
Do a bit of reading and you'll see for yourself, I don't just make things up and I'm not about to continue a heated debate especially when someone is presumptuous towards me.
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I do plenty of reading and what I have seen is improved camera, improved battery life, and a slight improvement performance wise. I'm not looking for a heated debate. I just haven't seen much posted in the way of negatives, yet you say the negatives outweigh the positives, which is why I ask for some links. Now, I'm talking stock. If a developer takes the base and his custom rom causes reboots, that's on him.
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I do plenty of reading and what I have seen is improved camera, improved battery life, and a slight improvement performance wise. I'm not looking for a heated debate. I just haven't seen much posted in the way of negatives, yet you say the negatives outweigh the positives, which is why I ask for some links. Now, I'm talking stock. If a developer takes the base and his custom rom causes reboots, that's on him.
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Do you have a point to make about your phone? Is there something you'd like to share about the m9? Did you read the title of the thread?
You've jumped on other people and have challenged each of them towards their point. But you yourself have said nothing and contributed nothing towards the thread, that's actually trolling, this Is not a thread for that, this is for people to have their say.. How can they do that or want to with you waiting there for everyone? Move on or contribute
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Do you have a point to make about your phone? Is there something you'd like to share about the m9? Did you read the title of the thread?
You've jumped on other people and have challenged each of them towards their point. But you yourself have said nothing and contributed nothing towards the thread, that's actually trolling, this Is not a thread for that, this is for people to have their say.. How can they do that or want to with you waiting there for everyone? Move on or contribute
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I think this phone is beast mode, granted I'm coming from the EVOLTE, but I picked HTC for sound and it's GPU power which is better than its competition. Only thing that upsets me is consumer reviews and the fact that this device got bashed because of the m9+ released in the foreign market and users thinking it was so much better because of a slightly bigger screen and finger print scanner. I just hope this "hero" device they are talking about releasing doesn't deter development on the m9. Just my opinion

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