It has been about 8 months since I've had a "modern" Android phone, I was really frustrated with the lackluster experience of my Tmo Sensation--it was a dual-core but it honestly didn't seem much better than my Mytouch4g, or my MT3G slide. Many times I would find myself with a laggy experience, which is why I am so hesitant with newer phones still...Well that and the level of development is normally a tadd sketchy and rough around the edges for T-Mobile devices.
1. Is there a high interest in development?
-I know this may sound like a silly question, however it's essential for me because I have had terrible experiences with Samsung dev support for the two Sammies I've owned(Sidekick 4G+Galaxy Player 5). I know the S3 is from may but I would really hate to spend all this money just to find out it's development will play out like the Sidekick 4G's did(never passed froyo, and the player never passed ginger).
2. Bleeding: Is screen bleeding a common issue, and if it is does it get worse over time?
3. How do you guys feel about the CPU/GPU? (can anyone tell me the "min" cpu value?)
4. How do you feel about the screen quality?(this will be my 1st AMOLED & 720P device)
5. Do you experience lag? (if enough people say there's lag that will really turn me away--it's one of those nitpicks that I will not lose...I mean I have a iP4 that's smoother than recent phones--which is saying a lot honestly. )
6. Can someone please explain the whole IMEI loss to me? ( I am willing to remain stock if it means Devs can find a solution--I've rooted, flashed, adb'd, and what not many times but the risks are higher with the S3)
7. If anyone of you are using a S3 in nyc, can you please tell me what kind of data speed it's tugging?
(my sensation had pretty bad 4G/HSPA+ #'s which is why I'm asking this now)
8. Is the 2GB RAM a superfluous feature, or does it partially future-proof the device for 4.x or 5.x?
I know I am asking a lot from you guys, though you have to understand that I don't want to get trapped in a renewed contract with a device that will be cut loose only a few months only after release. I am not into the whole scam of receiving 1 update(as in going from 1 android ver to another) and then never hearing of anything again.
Bump. Doesn't anyone have any input about this phone? -_-
Most if not all of your question are answered in other post, people just get tired and rewriting everything. So dont expect the same questions to get answered every time.
So your coming from some less desired devices, you will deff see dev support on a much higher level. I mean this is the Galaxy S 3 not some low end device.
My advice is make the jump or go try it for the 14 days and return if ya dont like it ( i bet you will like it).
Well good luck,
Trilaxx
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So your coming from some less desired devices
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Actually the G1, Mytouch 4g, and sensation were really active with many projects. It's just that my experience with samsung phones is a bit shaky.
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I mean this is the Galaxy S 3 not some low end device.
My advice is make the jump or go try it for the 14 days and return if ya dont like it ( i bet you will like it).
Well good luck,
Trilaxx
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That's what people said about the Amaze 4G, Rezound, Galaxy SII(tmo), and Galaxy S Blaze...Those aren't low end but they never took off development wise. I am wondering whether or not Devs are scared away due to the S4 being in the Galaxy instead of the Exynos--so far I see about 20+ ROMs for the int'l S3 and 1-5 active ones for this S3. That is why I show great hesitation with new Android phones, their futures are always uncertain if the device isn't international or a Nexus. I tried this device briefly at a tmo store and I though it was really okay, but that's cause it was hooked up to a display stand so I couldn't get a real feel for it.
I came from the sensation to the S3 and am very happy.
It really all comes down to how you use your phone. I did like HTC sense, and sense 4.0 was nice through some of the custom roms available.
But the S3, in my opinion is way better. But its going to come down to your personal opinion.
I have not had any problems with the phone- granted I got it 2 weeks ago and not at release so I haven't had it too long. But still no problems.
THe screen is very nice, again in my opinion. There are some that say they don't like it and it could be better.
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I came from the sensation to the S3 and am very happy.
It really all comes down to how you use your phone. I did like HTC sense, and sense 4.0 was nice through some of the custom roms available.
But the S3, in my opinion is way better. But its going to come down to your personal opinion.
I have not had any problems with the phone- granted I got it 2 weeks ago and not at release so I haven't had it too long. But still no problems.
THe screen is very nice, again in my opinion. There are some that say they don't like it and it could be better.
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Well since you've owed a Sensation, can you tell me if you notice a difference in performance. I mainly ditched the Sensation because it didn't seem very fast, it lagged very often but keep in mind this was before ICS was out for it. Honestly I have lost faith in Qualcomm's competence--they really threw me off when they made their S3's as a A8/A9 design.
Thats probably one of the main reasons I switched from the sensation... that and i couldn't seem to find one with a speaker phone I could actually hear...
I haven't noticied any lag at all on the S3. Not like the sensation. It was definitely noticeable, esp on the stock rom. I've only had S3 for about 2 weeks and love it. I haven't tried any custom roms yet, but have rooted and installed google wallet which works great. I still haven't tweeked it too much or loaded it up with apps and media.
Keep in mind, you have 14 days to decide if you like the phone.
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Actually the G1, Mytouch 4g, and sensation were really active with many projects. It's just that my experience with samsung phones is a bit shaky.
That's what people said about the Amaze 4G, Rezound, Galaxy SII(tmo), and Galaxy S Blaze...Those aren't low end but they never took off development wise. I am wondering whether or not Devs are scared away due to the S4 being in the Galaxy instead of the Exynos--so far I see about 20+ ROMs for the int'l S3 and 1-5 active ones for this S3. That is why I show great hesitation with new Android phones, their futures are always uncertain if the device isn't international or a Nexus. I tried this device briefly at a tmo store and I though it was really okay, but that's cause it was hooked up to a display stand so I couldn't get a real feel for it.
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Im coming from the Mytouch 4g, followed by the HTC Sensation. Their is not a better device on the market then the s3.
My First thoughts were, its a little bigger than i hoped. But after a week worth of use, Anything smaller seems obsolete.
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Well since you've owed a Sensation, can you tell me if you notice a difference in performance. I mainly ditched the Sensation because it didn't seem very fast, it lagged very often but keep in mind this was before ICS was out for it. Honestly I have lost faith in Qualcomm's competence--they really threw me off when they made their S3's as a A8/A9 design.
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Its a completely different animal. I can promise it will meet and exceed your expectations.
On another note. I average 18+ hours of pretty decent usage.
My sensation goes on the charger @ noon typically. Not this. I get home with 40% left..
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Im coming from the Mytouch 4g, followed by the HTC Sensation. Their is not a better device on the market then the s3.
My First thoughts were, its a little bigger than i hoped. But after a week worth of use, Anything smaller seems obsolete.
Its a completely different animal. I can promise it will meet and exceed your expectations.
On another note. I average 18+ hours of pretty decent usage.
My sensation goes on the charger @ noon typically. Not this. I get home with 40% left..
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Well that is very good news, I prefer to hear experiences from people who have at least owned similar or same phones as myself.
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Thats probably one of the main reasons I switched from the sensation... that and i couldn't seem to find one with a speaker phone I could actually hear...
I haven't noticied any lag at all on the S3. Not like the sensation. It was definitely noticeable, esp on the stock rom. I've only had S3 for about 2 weeks and love it. I haven't tried any custom roms yet, but have rooted and installed google wallet which works great. I still haven't tweeked it too much or loaded it up with apps and media.
Keep in mind, you have 14 days to decide if you like the phone.
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Well I am happy to hear that it's not a mess like the Sensation. It had a nice look to it, but speed wise it was a joke for a dualcore phone. If you say there's no lag on ICS, then I can only imagine what would happen if it got JB+project butter. I guess you have put my fear of lag to rest. However I will wait a little while longer to see if Dev support picks up, right now it seems to be where tmobile's SII+amaze were at in their early life(which was a bad place). Once I see at least 10 active aosp/aopk/CM10 ROMs I will definitely get one. Thanks for everything! :fingers-crossed:
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It has been about 8 months since I've had a "modern" Android phone, I was really frustrated with the lackluster experience of my Tmo Sensation--it was a dual-core but it honestly didn't seem much better than my Mytouch4g, or my MT3G slide. Many times I would find myself with a laggy experience, which is why I am so hesitant with newer phones still...Well that and the level of development is normally a tadd sketchy and rough around the edges for T-Mobile devices.
1. Is there a high interest in development?
-I know this may sound like a silly question, however it's essential for me because I have had terrible experiences with Samsung dev support for the two Sammies I've owned(Sidekick 4G+Galaxy Player 5). I know the S3 is from may but I would really hate to spend all this money just to find out it's development will play out like the Sidekick 4G's did(never passed froyo, and the player never passed ginger).
2. Bleeding: Is screen bleeding a common issue, and if it is does it get worse over time?
3. How do you guys feel about the CPU/GPU? (can anyone tell me the "min" cpu value?)
4. How do you feel about the screen quality?(this will be my 1st AMOLED & 720P device)
5. Do you experience lag? (if enough people say there's lag that will really turn me away--it's one of those nitpicks that I will not lose...I mean I have a iP4 that's smoother than recent phones--which is saying a lot honestly. )
6. Can someone please explain the whole IMEI loss to me? ( I am willing to remain stock if it means Devs can find a solution--I've rooted, flashed, adb'd, and what not many times but the risks are higher with the S3)
7. If anyone of you are using a S3 in nyc, can you please tell me what kind of data speed it's tugging?
(my sensation had pretty bad 4G/HSPA+ #'s which is why I'm asking this now)
8. Is the 2GB RAM a superfluous feature, or does it partially future-proof the device for 4.x or 5.x?
I know I am asking a lot from you guys, though you have to understand that I don't want to get trapped in a renewed contract with a device that will be cut loose only a few months only after release. I am not into the whole scam of receiving 1 update(as in going from 1 android ver to another) and then never hearing of anything again.
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1) The phone has been out for a month so development is merely getting started. It will pick up as time goes by and we will see major roms like cyanogen andothers here (CM9 already and cm10 preview available). Many custom made kernels out there that are amazing.
2) Haven't head of screen bleeding on this device and mine (2 days old) has none. Be warned if you have not heard about the black splotches look into it. When screen is on and completely black you may notice some black splotches around the screen (you wont notice on day to day use unless you try to look. Every device varies you might get one with minimal blotches. This is a side effect of the AMOLED.
3) I believe stock cpu was set at 1.4ghz and I'm not sure what min was. Currently have mine overclocked to 1.89ghz max and 385mhz min.I camefrom the HTC one S and they have the same cpu. The snapdragon S4 is a powerhouse bro you will love the fluidity and performance here,
4) I first compared my HTC One S HDLED screen to my friends samsung blaze and I fell in love with the AMOLED screen. It is just has more POP and vibrant colors. You will love it, idk how anyone can dislike this screen it is beautiful and blasphemy to those who use it on anything lower than max brightness.
5) Only time I have experienced lag has been when messing with the CPU clock and when my min profiles are set on setcput to anything lower than 1ghz
6) As far as I know the IMEI loss has been happening when flashing recoveries or flashing cyanogen using a recovery other than CWM. I Rooted and flashed CWM with no problem. Still havent flashed CM9 until it is more "complete" and I make sure the IMEI issue is not ROM flashing related. (again i have been browsing the forums for only 2 days so im still learning the issues here)
7) I live in the Bronx and work in Manhattan. The data speeds in my apartment suck compared to my HTC One S. I was getting 2-5mbps down and up on it but on the S3 I am rarely pulling past 1mbps down and up. This doesn't matter to me as I have wifi on 24/7 at home. At work (85th and Amsterdam I pull an amazing 15-20mbps down and 3-5mbps up in that area. I go giddy when doing speed tests at work.
8) No device is future proof but the 2gb will help keep the device more current as different Android versions are developed. It is also beneficial when dealing with many apps opening one after another multitasking and such. IF you are a power user it is beneficial. To most it's the same as 1gb
Hope I've helped.
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1) The phone has been out for a month so development is merely getting started. It will pick up as time goes by and we will see major roms like cyanogen andothers here (CM9 already and cm10 preview available). Many custom made kernels out there that are amazing.
2) Haven't head of screen bleeding on this device and mine (2 days old) has none. Be warned if you have not heard about the black splotches look into it. When screen is on and completely black you may notice some black splotches around the screen (you wont notice on day to day use unless you try to look. Every device varies you might get one with minimal blotches. This is a side effect of the AMOLED.
3) I believe stock cpu was set at 1.4ghz and I'm not sure what min was. Currently have mine overclocked to 1.89ghz max and 385mhz min.I camefrom the HTC one S and they have the same cpu. The snapdragon S4 is a powerhouse bro you will love the fluidity and performance here,
4) I first compared my HTC One S HDLED screen to my friends samsung blaze and I fell in love with the AMOLED screen. It is just has more POP and vibrant colors. You will love it, idk how anyone can dislike this screen it is beautiful and blasphemy to those who use it on anything lower than max brightness.
5) Only time I have experienced lag has been when messing with the CPU clock and when my min profiles are set on setcput to anything lower than 1ghz
6) As far as I know the IMEI loss has been happening when flashing recoveries or flashing cyanogen using a recovery other than CWM. I Rooted and flashed CWM with no problem. Still havent flashed CM9 until it is more "complete" and I make sure the IMEI issue is not ROM flashing related. (again i have been browsing the forums for only 2 days so im still learning the issues here)
7) I live in the Bronx and work in Manhattan. The data speeds in my apartment suck compared to my HTC One S. I was getting 2-5mbps down and up on it but on the S3 I am rarely pulling past 1mbps down and up. This doesn't matter to me as I have wifi on 24/7 at home. At work (85th and Amsterdam I pull an amazing 15-20mbps down and 3-5mbps up in that area. I go giddy when doing speed tests at work.
8) No device is future proof but the 2gb will help keep the device more current as different Android versions are developed. It is also beneficial when dealing with many apps opening one after another multitasking and such. IF you are a power user it is beneficial. To most it's the same as 1gb
Hope I've helped.
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Thanks for answering all of my questions. From all of the responses it sounds like I will be able to get the S3 without having to worry anymore. However I hope tmobile increases the 4G speeds in the bronx to match those of manhattan at least. :fingers-crossed:
Ace42 said:
Thanks for answering all of my questions. From all of the responses it sounds like I will be able to get the S3 without having to worry anymore. However I hope tmobile increases the 4G speeds in the bronx to match those of manhattan at least. :fingers-crossed:
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You are welcome bro. Don't get me wrong most of the Bronx does have terrible speed in comparison to Manhattan but there are a few areas where the speeds have surprised me. Like a train stop away from here I get great speeds. 10mbps on avg.
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the only problem i had and it happened with 3 from tmobile was the phone was getting very warm. so i got the note from t mobile and the performance difference is very noticable. the s3 is a power house fast internet load speeds smooth and the screen compared to the already beautiful screen on the note is sharper and brighter. I had the black crush issue with the note blacks were horrid so i received another s3 today i have them both in front of me and love em both but am gonna stick with the s3 because of the performance and the screen. If the new note has the inners of the s3 and a 5.3-5.5 inch screen the s3 will be history i love the size of the note..what im trying to say i would not buy a phone with anything less then the s4 snapdragon in .Plus if you want to upgrade the s3 will be desirable and hold its value for a while so you could sell in the future for the next best thing..
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Any buyers remorse? I for one so retreated upgrading my line and wished I waited a lousy month and a half more.
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Any buyers remorse? I for one so retreated upgrading my line and wished I waited a lousy month and a half more.
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definitely, i got the 3d on launch date.. was hoping for more but i just don't have the same feeling i did when i got the evo 4g.. so i will be getting the epic touch, but i'll also keep my 3d for the hell of it..lol
me did not like it
3d was not good
screen colors looked really bad
screen was tilted
bad viewing angles
bad camera
very meh phone
speed was not that great, the bionic was noticeably faster than it
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me did not like it
3d was not good
screen colors looked really bad
screen was tilted
bad viewing angles
bad camera
very meh phone
speed was not that great, the bionic was noticeably faster than it
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same way i feel, and i went in very open minded.. i gave it a huge chance hoping it would live up to the og evo but to no avail.
I'm just trying to figure a way I could land a epic touch. I have a OG epic and a 3D I'm sure one needs to be sold...decisions decisions
Some of you same guys will be saying the same thing about SG II when a newer better phone comes out lol. Some of you talking about the speed of the phone is slow. My Evo3d has never had a problem or any lag doing anything. Now if all you want to do is look at benchmarks and brag then I guess the SG II wins lol. But for day to day usage E3d runs fine. I'll take realistic looking colors vs over saturated colors where white look like yellow.
Not saying the SGII is a crappy phone, but I guarantee it will have its fair share of problems once the newness wears off lol
problems
I hate my 3d .... really sucks when you cant depend on the phone to stay on and just quit not responding so i can use it as an alarm ..... several times have had to reset phone because of not responding .... Evo 3d is a piece of junk ... they rushed it out and not even that fast quality control horrible at htc right now .
None here. Hated the 3d. It was a failure.. I wanted to love it but it had a few serious flaws I couldn't tolerate. Specifically the washed out screen and terrible reception
sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!
I'm switching. Not happy with the 3D. Still skeptical of Samsung though.
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Yea I fins myself reading alot about this phone and I'm guessing I'm wanting it ..now like alot of other people I need to figure out a way to get rid of my e3d. To an ex 3d user ...is it worth the trouble of selling and paying the difference to get this phone? Is it really leaps and bounds better ? My phone functions fine so you guys saying the e3d sux ass and had problems need not answer
..I want honest opinions if it lived up to the hype ..also. wanted someone to compare the camera quality between the two
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Yea I fins myself reading alot about this phone and I'm guessing I'm wanting it ..now like alot of other people I need to figure out a way to get rid of my e3d. To an ex 3d user ...is it worth the trouble of selling and paying the difference to get this phone? Is it really leaps and bounds better ? My phone functions fine so you guys saying the e3d sux ass and had problems need not answer
..I want honest opinions if it lived up to the hype ..also. wanted someone to compare the camera quality between the two
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I think you should just go to sprint and try it out. I went into my local sprint store and they had one. I was waiting to be wowed but I was not. Now that does'nt mean its a bad phone, its just not for me. I played with it for about 15 mins. There are some things I like about it but overall I'm sticking with the e3d. For one sammy should've used a qHD screen. After using the the e3d screen everything things else looks way too big on screen.
My GF has the og evo and she's using her upgrade to get the SGII so I'll have more time to compare.
It had the EVO branding so I was sold. My EVO 4G is still getting rommed to death by it's new owner and I got to use it today after a few months, it's still a beast of a phone...
...so I figured the EVO3D, while a peculiar way to follow up the 4G, would be a fantastic (of odd) continuation of it's legacy.
I couldn't have been more let down. Nothing is sacred at HTC. The screen aspect ratio of the Evo3D is downright offensive to me. My phone spends most of it's time in portrait mode...sure the resolution made up the difference so far as on-screen data is concerned I'm always constantly irritated by the aesthetic displeasure it caused me....but I swallowed that one, times they are a changin', right?
The next was the wonky power button behavior...doesn't always turn it on right, sometimes you need a battery pull, sometimes you wake up to a green light a locked up phone and a dead battery all at the same time.
And then the coup de grace, the signal strength is noticeably weaker than my EVO 4G....and I waited for an updated radio...and the past two radios just made it worse. Then HTC dropped the ball on releasing the (complete) kernel source, it's taken forever for CM7 and I'm sure it's because of HTC no cooperating...all the while Samsung is shipping unlocked phones and hiring Cyanogen himself.
After the NS4G I got for a week or two between all of the EVO 3D's I REALLY TRIED TO LOVE I realized that it was actually a very good phone. My faith in Samsung renewed.
I tried to love the EVO 3D...but I'm not a hopeless fanboy enough to eat that much trash and call it delicious. The phone sucks. There, I said it. I tried....
...and that's without mentioning that the UI experience on the 1ghz single core NS4G is MUCH smoother than a heavily modded 1800mhz dual-core EVO 3D....
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I think you should just go to sprint and try it out. I went into my local sprint store and they had one. I was waiting to be wowed but I was not. Now that does'nt mean its a bad phone, its just not for me. I played with it for about 15 mins. There are some things I like about it but overall I'm sticking with the e3d. For one sammy should've used a qHD screen. After using the the e3d screen everything things else looks way too big on screen.
My GF has the og evo and she's using her upgrade to get the SGII so I'll have more time to compare.
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I would agree with you more on that if it wasn't for the slew of random games and other apps that don't resize perfectly to the qHD. Sure, it IS the app's fault, but, the OS could handle it--and it doesn't yet...ICS I'm sure addresses this...but GB doesn't and I'm sick of waiting.
Will I be getting the Nexus Prime? Without a doubt...but I probably won't have a laundry list of reasons why the SGS2 sucked... I don't need to justify it, if I want it I get it. Period. The end. I would have been the same with the E3D if it didn't take so many opportunities to kick me while I was down.
I dont know how so many people have problems with their e3d but other than a few hiccups my phone has been fine. And thats the number 1 reason I will not install any custom roms because they usually come with problems that we spend some much time trying to fix. I had the og evo and I use to install a lot of roms. With lots of roms there were problems. With the new sense theres no need for me to install any custom roms. Apart from a few tweaks and themes I'm good.
Everything works on my e3d and I get great battery life
The evo 3d is a great phone for most people...
I personally and switching to the epic 4g touch tomorrow, and giving the 3d to my fiancee.
I am pumped for it.
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I dont know how so many people have problems with their e3d but other than a few hiccups my phone has been fine. And thats the number 1 reason I will not install any custom roms because they usually come with problems that we spend some much time trying to fix. I had the og evo and I use to install a lot of roms. With lots of roms there were problems. With the new sense theres no need for me to install any custom roms. Apart from a few tweaks and themes I'm good.
Everything works on my e3d and I get great battery life
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Honestly I think a lot of us got genuine duds...it seems almost all of us bought on release day. There was no prior platform-sister-model to the E3D. The EVO 4G had the Nexus1 that was nearly identical. The SGS2 has the entire worlds worth of SGS2s. The Shooter and Sensation were the first of that new platform.
But I'm on my 3rd E3D, though all still probably release day models, over the course of 3 months. I give up. I tried. I really did love the whole idea of the phone to start with.
So far as buggy roms goes it's usually pretty easy to tell genuinely buggy roms from solid roms with a few rare bugs...and the stock roms are not immune to bugs. I got more FC's on my bone-stock E3D than I ever got on a daily or RC of CM on my EVO 4G.
But to each their own. Though I've gotta ask, what are you doing here?
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Honestly I think a lot of us got genuine duds...it seems almost all of us bought on release day. There was no prior platform-sister-model to the E3D. The EVO 4G had the Nexus1 that was nearly identical. The SGS2 has the entire worlds worth of SGS2s. The Shooter and Sensation were the first of that new platform.
But I'm on my 3rd E3D, though all still probably release day models, over the course of 3 months. I give up. I tried. I really did love the whole idea of the phone to start with.
So far as buggy roms goes it's usually pretty easy to tell genuinely buggy roms from solid roms with a few rare bugs...and the stock roms are not immune to bugs. I got more FC's on my bone-stock E3D than I ever got on a daily or RC of CM on my EVO 4G.
But to each their own. Though I've gotta ask, what are you doing here?
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You may have gotten a dud bro. Stock roms are not immune but custome roms do mulitply the chance of more bugs. Only time I got a FC on my stock e3d is if I restore certain app from titanium backup. And I'm here because like most of your guys I love technology and gadgets, plus my GF is getting the SGII tomorrow so I'll be sticking around.
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Some of you same guys will be saying the same thing about SG II when a newer better phone comes out lol. Some of you talking about the speed of the phone is slow. My Evo3d has never had a problem or any lag doing anything. Now if all you want to do is look at benchmarks and brag then I guess the SG II wins lol. But for day to day usage E3d runs fine. I'll take realistic looking colors vs over saturated colors where white look like yellow.
Not saying the SGII is a crappy phone, but I guarantee it will have its fair share of problems once the newness wears off lol
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Using the phones everyday I think they will be similar performance lol. The biggest difference will be in the screen lol.
This phone stock blows a rooted and overclocked 3d out the water. I just switched from the 3d and its better times 10.
Better signal. Better screen...even at lower resolution ..exynos core is a BEAST..plays n64 games on emulator stock smoother than overclocked evo. Better cameras..better speakers...this thing screams dude. And most of all...its a GREAT PHONE before anything. Great call quality..stronger reception than the 3d. If your on the fence..jump man..it's worth it
sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!
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You may have gotten a dud bro. Stock roms are not immune but custome roms do mulitply the chance of more bugs. Only time I got a FC on my stock e3d is if I restore certain app from titanium backup. And I'm here because like most of your guys I love technology and gadgets, plus my GF is getting the SGII tomorrow so I'll be sticking around.
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Cool. No mal intent, honestly curious why someone who is a happy E3D owner would be here...now I know.
But, yeah, I think I got 3 (yes, three) duds...all HW001's, I'm sure that has everything to do with it. The 002's likely have a much lower failure rate and much higher tolerances.
I got FC's on every E3D I had from the music app on countless occasions, the youtube app all over the place, the browser....all reliably. In fact, until I flashed Synergy I was plagued by FC's. Again, I'm sure my hardware was at fault here.
FC's I can live with...it's no kernel panic, it's no blue screen and it happens fast and is absolved relatively fast (except for youtube which became unusable eventually...web-version, problem solved).
If the screen width (in portrait) fit my preference, if the battery life was phenomenal, if the signal strength/lock was good....any one of those...I could and would be able to completely ignore all of the things wrong with the device--and I haven't even begun. But sadly it was not to be.
Glad to have you on board either way.
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This phone stock blows a rooted and overclocked 3d out the water. I just switched from the 3d and its better times 10.
Better signal. Better screen...even at lower resolution ..exynos core is a BEAST..plays n64 games on emulator stock smoother than overclocked evo. Better cameras..better speakers...this thing screams dude. And most of all...its a GREAT PHONE before anything. Great call quality..stronger reception than the 3d. If your on the fence..jump man..it's worth it
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I know you...You know me...and you are saying what we both wanted to know: So it's true? Great signal strength/holding? Tower locking? higher roam-threshold?
I can't wait,.
My biggest complaints about the evo 3d:
1. Camera Quality (in 2D and 3D), 2D pics were grainy and i could not get nice 3d effects unless i tried really hard in perfect light, etc. 3d Pictures were just a blur otherwise.
2. Meh screen
3. Dropped calls and poor reception, dropped calls in my house all the time, never did with my EVO 4g. Palm Pre reception is poor too, but still better than the E3d. EVO Shift is also very poor in my house, but better than the e3d
4. Battery life was significantly better than a stock evo (Of course, not nearly on par with EVO 4g + my savaged-zen kernel lol), I made it through a short day with minimal-moderate usage. But of course, it is likely because of the poor signal I had in my house. (I'd roam in my basement, with the OG evo i always had a signal)
That's about it, I returned it 22 days after launch day (when i got it)
It had good things too:
1. 3D was very cool, except when I took my own 3d pics/videos I couldnt get it to look right, but movies/games/etc were all very cool.
2. Sense 3.0 is usable, maybe even a little better. I still prefer AOSP, but I absolutely hated sense pre-3.0 and couldn't stand it.
3. Very quick phone, not GS2 quick, but miles ahead of the OG Evo and most phones
4. Felt better built than the OG evo. I liked the flush battery cover
Bottom line, I didn't feel it was worth an upgrade so I returned it. It's just personal preference. I skipped on the photon because of the dated tegra 2 and lack of developer support. I waited WAY longer than i wanted to on the ET4g but I'm finally getting it tomorrow and I'm excited about it.
Oh yea, I got mine on launch day right when they opened lol. I see all the people talking about random reboots and software glitches/hardware glitches. I never had any of that it was very stable, it just wasn't for me
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PROS
after spending more than 12 hours straight doing all kind of stuff to this phone, which would have normally killed it in the old Nexus S, the T989 has by far surpassed all the expectations i had with it.
super fluid, i can do more than 10 things at once without crashing, hanging, or freezing, and simply rebooting like it did on the Nexus S.
i can be copying things around withing the phone while doing or running other apps, or installing things, without feeling a bit of lag
those simple operations would have easily frozen the Nexus S until whatever was holding it is done doing whatever it was doing.
The network speed is amazing, areas where i had poor download speed, less than 1 Mbps, now i can get 3 Mbps, areas where it maxed out at 5 Mbps i can get 8~9 Mbps (these are all indoors tests), and this is all in the broadware riddle stock ROM from Tmo
Eager to run some outdoor test to see how much higher the speed goes
speed coping pasting stuff to and from the SD card to PC or SD card to from internal memory is super fast
screen is simply amazing, it's working properly as designed, it was expected of a SAMOLED+ display, no where near as bad as it was presented on the worry topics.
camera is great, and very responsive, no shooter lag at all, unlike the Nexus S
flash works fine
the build quality is the highest i've seen from Samsung
CONS
the only thing that does worry me is the back cover...
i'm afraid after a while those teeth that keeps the cover locked to the side might simply wear out after frequent usage, like changing battery packs, changing SD cards, etc.
the speaker volume for speaker phone/ring tone is kinda low, compared to the Nexus S
screen default auto brightness is waaaaaaay too low, lets just say it stays at Zero or 5% most of the time. (work around, disable auto, and manually adjust to your liking), this will get better once CM7 or 3rd party apps becomes available to auto adjust screen brightness level as we set it to the level we want.
hmm... i can't think of anything else at the moment
still too excited and having too much fun, flashing things, restoring backup, migrating stuff from old phone to new phone, and installing more crap load of stuff to my 32GB class 10 Adata, soon to be replaced with the sandisk 64GB when it arrives by mail so i'll be installing even more stuff, until the phone slows down to a crawl, then i'll hold back
I really want to go ahead and get it. I sold my sensation to get Galaxy nexus. But I am not going to pay over 600$ for a phone if it doesn't come to tmobile. I really liked the galaxy s 2
I'm not a big fan of the GSII looks are pretty standard build quality seems good but not premium. but where things change is once you hold the device and use it you get this damn rock solid device in every aspect. Camera looks Great more settings than stock 2.3, Screen looks great with vivid colors, performance is just blazing even after so many MEH reviews of not having a Exynos this thing flies. Made me say damn your not my favorite but you really know how to keep me happy LOL. for someone to say this phone is garbage or bad they must be out of their mind.
What are your thoughts on the radio? Do you lose signal often?
I wholeheartedly agree with your review of the GS2! AMAZING phone!
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What are your thoughts on the radio? Do you lose signal often?
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i've not noticed anything weird on the radio, made several phone calls conversation walking/driving around just fine
i use 3G data a lot, and did not lose signal, unless i'm inside the elevator, or places deep inside the buildings like toilet, and basement places
the radio reception is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than the Nexus S
i still need to test inside Cotsco and Walmart super centres
those places i used to lose signal on the Nexus S
Coming from a Vibrant and G2x, I absolutely love this phone. The Vibrant was really what opened me up to Android while the G2x paved the way for rooting, recovery, and ROMs.
They both had their quirks and I feel like the SGSII is THE best phone out there. I see myself with this phone for a long time because of the great development and involvement of the Android community.
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I have to be honest guys, initially I did not like the thought of having a 4.5" display on my hands, I went and got the HTC AMAZE the same night was experiencing a horrible screen bleed, then found out the battery only last around 4-5hrs, it was a horrible 24hr experience... So, I decided to give the Galaxy SII a chance... OMG!!!... The GSII is the best phone I have ever had, battery is awesome I've been using the phone like there is no tomorrow, Web, YouTube, Text msg, Talking for hours, I mean constant use all day long, and I still have 30% left the battery, love it!!!... The screen, the colors, the camera its great... Definitely a way better build phone than other phones out there... Enjoy!!
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I had a vibrant a while back and that phone just doesn't compare. The back cover on the GSII is flimsy but at least it feels premium while on the phone.
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Feedback based on Stock Tmo ROM
PROS
after spending more than 12 hours straight doing all kind of stuff to this phone, which would have normally killed it in the old Nexus S, the T989 has by far surpassed all the expectations i had with it.
super fluid, i can do more than 10 things at once without crashing, hanging, or freezing, and simply rebooting like it did on the Nexus S.
i can be copying things around withing the phone while doing or running other apps, or installing things, without feeling a bit of lag
those simple operations would have easily frozen the Nexus S until whatever was holding it is done doing whatever it was doing.
The network speed is amazing, areas where i had poor download speed, less than 1 Mbps, now i can get 3 Mbps, areas where it maxed out at 5 Mbps i can get 8~9 Mbps (these are all indoors tests), and this is all in the broadware riddle stock ROM from Tmo
Eager to run some outdoor test to see how much higher the speed goes
speed coping pasting stuff to and from the SD card to PC or SD card to from internal memory is super fast
screen is simply amazing, it's working properly as designed, it was expected of a SAMOLED+ display, no where near as bad as it was presented on the worry topics.
camera is great, and very responsive, no shooter lag at all, unlike the Nexus S
flash works fine
the build quality is the highest i've seen from Samsung
CONS
the only thing that does worry me is the back cover...
i'm afraid after a while those teeth that keeps the cover locked to the side might simply wear out after frequent usage, like changing battery packs, changing SD cards, etc.
the speaker volume for speaker phone/ring tone is kinda low, compared to the Nexus S
screen default auto brightness is waaaaaaay too low, lets just say it stays at Zero or 5% most of the time. (work around, disable auto, and manually adjust to your liking), this will get better once CM7 or 3rd party apps becomes available to auto adjust screen brightness level as we set it to the level we want.
hmm... i can't think of anything else at the moment
still too excited and having too much fun, flashing things, restoring backup, migrating stuff from old phone to new phone, and installing more crap load of stuff to my 32GB class 10 Adata, soon to be replaced with the sandisk 64GB when it arrives by mail so i'll be installing even more stuff, until the phone slows down to a crawl, then i'll hold back
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I too came from the Nexus S and share the same opinion on this phone as you. I also am quite happy with the current rom devs for this phone. I am running EagleBlood rom and am getting some crazy good battery life.
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I have both the nexus s and the gs2. My gs2 spends more time in the box than it does being used. Don't get me wrong the phone is amazing but I like aosp(CM7). As soon as CM7 comes to the gs2 I wont look back. Gs2 ftw
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I was gunna make a post to see who was actually happy with the phone but you have done it for me.
I Love this phone its the bestest.
i came from iphone and the battery life is nothing compare to iphone. my expectations for this phone was off the charts, but now im just ehh.
Welcome to SGS2 Club AllGamer! Yes this phone is a Beast! Glad you finally got it.
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Loving my SGS2, don't really have any complaints. I also love all the devs that are popping out of nowhere to develop for this phone, not to mention Team Whiskey is also working on something.
If they made my Vibrant go from a POS to an awesome phone, I wonder what they are gonna do with this one. Can't wait!
Hercules Hercules!!
other than the battery, this phones features are crazy. and there are a lot of devs doing nice stuff to improve it too
I am a flashing maniac as well as a guy who gets bored with phones in a few weeks. I have had all the top devices, and the SGS2 has honestly exceeded all of my expectations X100!!! I don't even have the urge to Root it and flash ROMs because I am actually happy with it bone stock (a first for me). I think I have finally found my dream phone. When people show me their new iPhones I just giggle and smile. I want to marry this *****!!!!
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This phone is definitely amazing, exynos or not. I actually love touchwiz 4.0, something I thought I would never say. HUGE improvement over previous versions of touchwiz. No wonder why all tech reviews give this phone lots of praises.
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and the SGS2 has honestly exceeded all of my expectations X100!!! I don't even have the urge to Root it and flash ROMs because I am actually happy with it bone stock (a first for me).
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same here, of all the phones i've ever had, i was never happy with the stock ROM
this is a first, never seen such a snappier stock ROM ever
the crapware from Tmo are easy enough to remove once rooted.
now, if i flash ROM is just out of curiosity to check out what cool features the guys are adding
otherwise if i want a stable ROM, i'll just flash back to stock
i actually have a copy of the stock ROM in my SD card ready to be flash back, just in case any of the ROMs becomes unstable
I love this damn thing. Stock rom surprised the hell out of me with the features/responsiveness.
The only gripes I have are the lines at low brightness, the insane amount of bloatware, and no notification light.
Other than that, wow. I really can't believe how much I adore this phone. And the fact that I love to mod my phones (nexus one, g1 and hd2) says a lot for this one when I say I don't have any desire to root. Besides the bloat, but at least the app drawer lets me hide it.
Ok, I'm using eagleblood with go launcher... I'm in a constant love fest with the phone. Was that too overboard? Inappropriate? Awkward? I don't care. Well I came from a Droid Eris, so my ecstasy should be understandable. The Go Launcher is really solid BTW(tried a couple others that performed really sketchy) and I got it to get the desktop in landscape mode(whenever needed).and yeah, it's solid.
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I plan to return my nitro tomorrow before my 14 days is up. It's rooted with superoneclick. Should I bother trying to unroot? Would hate to brick it without a recovery rom available.
It won't brick you phone, I've done it several times already.
In my personal experience the clerks don't bother check the condition of the software on the phone, they turn it on (or not) and that's it.
And besides, if it's bricked, well, there is always a wall charger to blame
P.S.
What are you getting instead?
My mind isn't completely made up yet. I want to love the nitro but the occasional lag, poor scrolling, and battery life is what's ruining it for me. RAM manager has made a difference in app switching. I've been watching you guys closely hoping for proof of an unlocked bootloader as I'm sure another rom or hardware accelerated browsing in ics will make all the difference.
If i ditch it, ill probably just go back to my iPhone 4 for a couple months and see if the at&t version of the nexus gets LTE. I love this display, but don't know if I want to commit to the phone for 2 years. Will let you know what I decide.
Thank [email protected] Unroot worked without any problems. I decided to return it and wait and see what you all can find in the next few weeks. I played with the skyrocket and nitro side by side in the store.. what a difference. The skyrocket is buttery smooth. I would jump on it in a heart beat if there weren't those huge pixels staring me in the face . The HTC Vivid actually felt like a decent compromise if compromises had to be made. Nice qHD display and pretty smooth. I still believe the Nitro has the potential to be the top dog, but not in it's current state.
Keep up the good work. I'd love to see new software on the fantastic hardware.
The display on this is fantastic. I can feel your pain as it's not as smooth as the Skyrocket. I'm not a huge fan of the super amoled - especially compared to this. I have switched to the Zeam launcher and it has made a pretty nice difference. I'm hoping there will be an interim release by LG/AT&T to speed things up and fix some of the other minor bugs.
And most importantly hoping the dev successes continue and we can get some nice custom ROMs going (especially ICS).
I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.
Don't you get 30 days to return?
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I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.
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what about bloatware? how much of it there? Maybe that's the reason it's smoother?
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Yes, you have 30 days. Every Nitro owner who bought from Att should be able to return it since it came out this month.
[email protected],
I'd actually say there is at least as much, if not more bloatware. I really can't explain why, but navigating through menus and scrolling through apps just feels smoother. Now, I had never done a factory reset and reformatted my SD card until my fiasco, so it's possible that helped and that the Nitro rom might feel smoother when I get back to it.
Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.
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Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.
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Are you kidding me, this phone is Soooo Much smoother after doing a hard reset, even with bloatware still on it. Even now the Atrix feel so much more sluggish compared to this phone. I dont understand wat people are complaining about this phone. Yes, there's many kinks on this phone that LG never took care of, but that's why we have XDA and the great minds in it, that is to improve the phones we have.
You know wat, Go ahead, go and change your phones to the GS II. And when the Nitro HD gets a significant improvement in the sense of ROMs or any other upgrades, all of you who left this phone behind can weep and regret your decisions
Compare an iPhone or skyrocket. There's a huge difference in smoothness vs the nitro.. especially with the web browser (even opera). Even rooted with ram manager and hard reset, it just doesn't compare. Saying there isn't a difference is like my friend's saying they don't see the big pixels in the s ii. Say what you want about iphones, but i think they have spoiled me in terms of user interaction.
All that said, I agree the phone has tremendous potential and will most likely outshine the s ii when all is said and done.. My guess is that some of the lag involves software rendering of the 1280x720. Scroll around and watch the nitro's CPU spike. Custom roms or ICS much resolve some of this which is why I'm going to wait it out a few more weeks or months too see what unfolds before committing to the device long term.
So I currently have the Samsung Fascinate on verizon, and it finally running great with latest superclean, gingerbread.
But I am able to upgrade, I went to the store and at first I was not very impressed. Then went back just today, and realized someone made the fonts extra Large, and once I changed it back to normal, wow what a difference. I just thought something wrong with my eyes on that phone.
I was trying to compare the nexus to the razr and htz rezound. After trying all 3 phones for an hour I am 100% sure I don't want the rezound or razr even if they do get ICS. The main reason is I think the screen looked the best on nexus, and bigger. I just liked having more real estate, of course other big reason is it is ASOP Google which is main reason for looking at nexus.
But I was curious do your phones get hot? I noticed after playing with this nexus in the store it got very warm / to hot when I tried to make a call to see sound quality I could barely keep it on my face.
I downloaded the temperature monitor from market and it showed it at 110.
While razr and rezound was mostly cool compared to nexus. I think temp showed around 98-105
Some other concerns is I saw a thread here where getting scratched easily, I refuse to put a screen protector on, I just hate it, I have never had one on my fascinate and not one scratch. So while at the store I tried as hard to scratch with my nails, and bang it, basically doing what I can to see if anything happened, and I did not see one scratch, so I guess that is good, though not sure what happens when I put it in my front pants pocket.
I also made a call from the store and sounded really good, and person on other end said I sounded great, of course in the store I am sure the reception is great. I was curious how is the speakerphone? I use that a lot, since I am always losing my bluetooth.
I tried to it use while in the store but way too noisy to get a good feeling.
A lot of the questions you're having can be answered by watching video reviews on YouTube or reading reviews of the phone.
HTC Rezound vs. Galaxy Nexus P1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvaVZPH7Sgg
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfvUGk63o8Q
RAZR vs. Galaxy Nexus P1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVZrSYPGn-M
P2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwUQ_LhTBjc&feature=player_embedded
Engadget Review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/verizon-galaxy-nexus-review/
We already knew more-or-less what we were getting with the Verizon rendition of the Galaxy Nexus, and ultimately it delivers. Yes, battery life predictably takes a hit compared to the HSPA+ when you enable LTE, and it's safe to say this version of the phone has a bit more to love than the earlier release, but neither of those are deal-breakers. This, like the other version, is a great phone. At $300 with a two-year contract ($650 without) it is not cheap, but if you must have the best, it's well worth it.
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HSPA+: http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/24/galaxy-nexus-hspa-review/
Let's not beat around the bush. The Galaxy Nexus is definitely the best Android phone available today -- it's possibly even the best phone available today, period. Sure, it's not perfect -- we're disappointed that the camera doesn't deliver the same wow factor as the rest of the handset. It's an alright shooter, but it's just no match for the state-of-the-art. There's also room for improvement in terms of build and materials quality. Still, there's no denying the satisfying look and feel, the stunning display, the impressive performance, the excellent battery life -- the whole is far greater than the sum of its parts.
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.. and yes the phone does get hot when you play games, although it has stopped getting that hot when I started using franco kernel because the phone is being undervolted. GPU is also increased to 386 MHz (or something like that.. a boost from clock GPU). The speaker is kind of low but getting Volume+ (or flashing DSP Manager) will fix that straight up. Set volume+ to +8 and all will be good.
This is a stock Google experience and is a far better experience than what the RAZR and Rezound can offer. ICS 4.0.3/4.0.2 is simply amazing.
Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
Well I wasn't even playing games, just using the browser and it got hot. So this is normal.
I have to really think about this then, I mean if it gets so hot I cannot talk on it, that might not be so good.
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Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
Well I wasn't even playing games, just using the browser and it got hot. So this is normal.
I have to really think about this then, I mean if it gets so hot I cannot talk on it, that might not be so good.
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They'll most likely be phones releasing with 2.3.7 and will say "upgradable to Ice Cream Sandwich." Previous phones release with older versions of Android, all of these phones have been planned since last quarter. They're just being announced today. With the "nexus" brand they will last for a long time with exceptional support from the dev community as well as Google themselves as it is their flagship device. All updates come directly from Google.
And my phone doesn't get hot when I'm browsing the web or anything. Only time it gets hot for me is when it's playing games like GTA III. But all of that have stopped after using a third-party kernel. I'm not sure if this is fixed with the latest update but it could be. I was on 4.0.1 when this happened, the latest ICS build is 4.0.3 now.
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They'll most likely be phones releasing with 2.3.7 and will say "upgradable to Ice Cream Sandwich." Previous phones release with older versions of Android, all of these phones have been planned since last quarter. They're just being announced today. With the "nexus" brand they will last for a long time with exceptional support from the dev community as well as Google themselves as it is their flagship device. All updates come directly from Google.
And my phone doesn't get hot when I'm browsing the web or anything. Only time it gets hot for me is when it's playing games like GTA III. But all of that have stopped after using a third-party kernel. I'm not sure if this is fixed with the latest update but it could be. I was on 4.0.1 when this happened, the latest ICS build is 4.0.3 now.
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Cool thanks for info. Yeah I am 95% sold on it..just trying to make sure. I refuse to ever buy a phone again where they say it will be upgraded to ICS at some point like razr or rezound I am sure they will get it the question is when, I was burned with Fascinate because of that.
I should have looked in the store to see what version it was running. I forgot to check.
Is 4.0.3 officially released or you put on a leaked version?
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Cool thanks for info. Yeah I am 95% sold on it..just trying to make sure. I refuse to ever buy a phone again where they say it will be upgraded to ICS at some point like razr or rezound I am sure they will get it the question is when, I was burned with Fascinate because of that.
I should have looked in the store to see what version it was running. I forgot to check.
Is 4.0.3 officially released or you put on a leaked version?
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Well Gingerbread (2.3.X) came out a long time ago. And phones said "upgradable to 2.3.X" and didn't get it until 6-7 months later. I mean you can use a custom ROM and all that but development is limited when kernels aren't open-sourced that are used for that specific Android version and blah blah blah (too technical to type out).
I've used a Samsung Vibrant, and it heavily relied on leaked Samsung builds by samfirmwares. It was getting really old.
4.0.3 is officially released on the Nexus S but the update was halted due to bugs. But I've been running 4.0.3 with custom ROMs and battery life has been amazing. I'm currently using a leaked bootloader update (PRIMEKL01) and battery life is even better with this bootloader.
4.0.3 is officially released in AOSP, so anyone can compile AOSP 4.0.3. But the latest OTA is 4.0.2 as 4.0.3 is halted (as mentioned previously). So it's not necessarily leaked in any way.
I'd personally recommend you to use custom ROMs + franco kernel. You can check the GSM/CDMA forums and view users' feedback. Idle is amazing with that kernel. If you wish to not root right away, at least unlock the bootloader first so if you change your mind. You can root it and use Titanium Backup (or any other app that does the same) and backup your stuff. Otherwise you'll lose your data when you do decide to root.
Keep in mind, I believe you should have a 14 (or 30 day) return if you are unsatisfied with the phone.
Great info and I agree they take way too long to come out with updates in general which is why I want the nexus...I was curious who controls these updates? Verizon or Google?
Meaning if google says they are ready for update it goes? Or it still has to be officially approved by verizon?
Who halted the update verizon or google?
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Great info and I agree they take way too long to come out with updates in general which is why I want the nexus...I was curious who controls these updates? Verizon or Google?
Meaning if google says they are ready for update it goes? Or it still has to be officially approved by verizon?
Who halted the update verizon or google?
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Well there are different variants of the Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming since you mentioned a bunch of Verizon devices (RAZR, Rezound) that you're getting the CDMA version. CDMA version is codednamed "toro" so Google will be handling those updates. For GSM, "yakju" is handled by Google. There is a whole thread about this, but I wouldn't worry about getting updates on the Verizon network.
Google stock images: http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
Edit: heres the thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384458
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Well there are different variants of the Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming since you mentioned a bunch of Verizon devices (RAZR, Rezound) that you're getting the CDMA version. CDMA version is codednamed "toro" so Google will be handling those updates. For GSM, "yakju" is handled by Google. There is a whole thread about this, but I wouldn't worry about getting updates on the Verizon network.
Google stock images: http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
Edit: heres the thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384458
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Oh that is awesome did not know can get it directly from google.
nexus is a great phone, the only issue you may have is the battery life on Verizon LTE version.
although the HSPA+ (GSM) version may have adequate battery life, the LTE version is horrid when it comes to this.
its mainly a hardware issue, coupled with the 4.65 inch SAMOLED HD screen.
on extended battery, i can only get about 2 hours of on screen time before it depletes to 0%. Doesn't sound like much, and I agree. Sadly I am over my 14 day return limit and stuck with a phone with subpar battery life. Hopefully future software updates will alleviate the issue, but again, its more of hardware issue. I can see why Apple delayed their LTE phones. Qualcomm's LTE radio chips are just too power hungry.
Yes, one can just disable LTE and be on wifi. Thats an option, but I do prefer phones that work great overall out of the box.
just my .02
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nexus is a great phone, the only issue you may have is the battery life on Verizon LTE version.
although the HSPA+ (GSM) version may have adequate battery life, the LTE version is horrid when it comes to this.
its mainly a hardware issue, coupled with the 4.65 inch SAMOLED HD screen.
on extended battery, i can only get about 2 hours of on screen time before it depletes to 0%. Doesn't sound like much, and I agree. Sadly I am over my 14 day return limit and stuck with a phone with subpar battery life. Hopefully future software updates will alleviate the issue, but again, its more of hardware issue. I can see why Apple delayed their LTE phones. Qualcomm's LTE radio chips are just too power hungry.
Yes, one can just disable LTE and be on wifi. Thats an option, but I do prefer phones that work great overall out of the box.
just my .02
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I figured the battery would be horrible..on any 4G phone, or is it just nexus.
I did not see this option in the store can you turn on 3G only if you know you going to be in an area that has no good 4G service so it does not suck up your battery?
I was looking for it cannot find it.
Personally 4G is not a huge thing for me, but a nice thing to have I guess.
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I figured the battery would be horrible..on any 4G phone, or is it just nexus.
I did not see this option in the store can you turn on 3G only if you know you going to be in an area that has no good 4G service so it does not suck up your battery?
I was looking for it cannot find it.
Personally 4G is not a huge thing for me, but a nice thing to have I guess.
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there is no 3G/4G toggle on stock ICS. You can, however, download a widget off the market place and use that as a toggle. you'd have to go to settings -> more -> mobile networks -> network mode to change it otherwise.
hopefully google/verizon will update their baseband firmware and bring better battery life. i think thats whats causing a lot of the battery performance issues on LTE.
thing is, even with good 4G signal, if you watch a youtube video in HD, you'll see the batt % dwindle very quickly. watching a 5 minute hd clip would reduce the battery life by as much as 7-10% give or take.
the saving grace with this phone is the massive support from both google and the community. its the only reason why i'm holding onto this phone over any other 4G phone at the moment.
fyi the users that chime in this subforum either have the gsm or cdma version. depending on who you talk to, the cdma user will most likely ***** more about batt life than the GSM user.
If you are going to stay on Verizon then I personally don't see any other choice Although I would still take a GS2 over the GN in hardware but damn ICS is just such a nice OS.... even when its slow.
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Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
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TBH, rezound has better hardware and once it gets a sense free ICS ROM then it will probably outperform gnex. But gnex looks a lot nicer.. rezound looks like a big brick.
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TBH, rezound has better hardware and once it gets a sense free ICS ROM then it will probably outperform gnex. But gnex looks a lot nicer.. rezound looks like a big brick.
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i'm actually thinking of going rezound if the battery life on it is any better.
Battery is affected on all 4G LTE phones for the most part. So it's not just the Galaxy Nexus. With custom ROMs, and kernels they can help to bring out the most of your battery life. But definitely battery will be your biggest issue, if you disable 4G LTE... that may be a way around it and only activate it when you really need it.
Also, the Rezound doesn't have NFC capabilities. NFC will be the future, so this is something to think about if you want to make payments with your phone.
Ultimately the decision is yours, http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Verizon-Galaxy-Nexus-vs-HTC-Rezound_id2938
Google a bunch of "rezound vs galaxy nexus" posts and read them. In the end, you choose which you'd think would fit you.
Latest updates and stock Google experience: Galaxy Nexus for sure.
I'm just gonna root and use a 4G toggle and only use 4G when I'm really trying to do some fast tasks, so otherwise, wifi and 3G for basic stuff like FB should get me some decent battery life.
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i'm actually thinking of going rezound if the battery life on it is any better.
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I've had both the Rezound and the GNex and didn't think the battery life was any better on the Rezound.
I've gotten better battery life personally with my nexus compared to my brothers Rezound. Rezound was not too good for him.
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I got the Rezound when it first came out. Didn't really have any signal issues like I'm reading most 4G phones have. With that said I did have horrible battery life and usually tried keeping it in CMDA/3G mode unless I was streaming videos.
Gaming or browsing while 4G was on had my Rezound pushing temps of low 140*F...
I also had the famous buzzing issue and the "beats" aren't what they're cracked up to be. The other thing was I got tired of the Rezound looking just like my Incredible.
But the screen was amazing.
It too took awful pic's however. They looked great on screen, terrible when the file was transferred to a computer...
But I will say you don't read about any of the signal issues that you read about with the GNex.
Currently looking at the S3 or the EVO right now to change up from my S2 (it's starting to mess up hardware wise) While I love my S2 there were always issues with Samsung radios and being for lack of a better word piss poor signal wise. Just kinda looking for some info oh what you guys think about your S3's and radio signal as well as hardware vs the EVO 4G LTE. I can read reviews all day long but looking for some real word use from actual owners who have been using the phone for a few.
anything helpful would be great I posted this same question over in the EVO forums just looking for some real world use from people. As I said above Samsungs radios have (to me atleast) been piss poor and every HTC I've seen have been better and since I have not LTE currently within the Seattle area I'm not concerned with that part of it cause I don't see Seattle getting it untill sometime next year.
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Currently looking at the S3 or the EVO right now to change up from my S2 (it's starting to mess up hardware wise) While I love my S2 there were always issues with Samsung radios and being for lack of a better word piss poor signal wise. Just kinda looking for some info oh what you guys think about your S3's and radio signal as well as hardware vs the EVO 4G LTE. I can read reviews all day long but looking for some real word use from actual owners who have been using the phone for a few.
anything helpful would be great I posted this same question over in the EVO forums just looking for some real world use from people. As I said above Samsungs radios have (to me atleast) been piss poor and every HTC I've seen have been better and since I have not LTE currently within the Seattle area I'm not concerned with that part of it cause I don't see Seattle getting it untill sometime next year.
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I've heard that the EVO does not have a strong radio but do not have first hand knowledge of this. I can say that the S3 has a lot better radio than the S2. If it didn't I would be using an EVO right now cause the radio on the S2 stinks, especially compared to my old Photon. Speaking of the Motorola Photon, if you are not familiar with Moto devices they typically have some of the best signal strength of any phone. So if I can go from that to the S3 without any issues at all with signal strength than it is pretty decent. May not be as strong, but good enough. Have not had a dropped call yet. BTW...running rooted stock so running a custom rom/kernel might change that.
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Currently looking at the S3 or the EVO right now to change up from my S2 (it's starting to mess up hardware wise) While I love my S2 there were always issues with Samsung radios and being for lack of a better word piss poor signal wise. Just kinda looking for some info oh what you guys think about your S3's and radio signal as well as hardware vs the EVO 4G LTE. I can read reviews all day long but looking for some real word use from actual owners who have been using the phone for a few.
anything helpful would be great I posted this same question over in the EVO forums just looking for some real world use from people. As I said above Samsungs radios have (to me atleast) been piss poor and every HTC I've seen have been better and since I have not LTE currently within the Seattle area I'm not concerned with that part of it cause I don't see Seattle getting it untill sometime next year.
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Well looks like ill be the second commenter to post on regards to ure question.
I cant say on regards for u to choose or which phone is better for u, but in my opinion, from all the battles between the Iphone 5, Evo LTE and SGS3 i had a big choice between does 2, after re-searching looking at specs and performance wize, i came to a conclusion that for me the galaxy s3 was right for me, why? well simply because of the ability to multi-task with ease and almost no constant lag at all. Now both phones throtle alot and i mean alot (It means for ure phone to conserve battery life and prevent it from getting too hot by slowing down the processor speed to a minimum when not in use) ive found the galaxy s3 to be much faster in performance and thansk to the 2 gigs of ram it has its able smooth things out even when its throtling. the HTC althought a very good phone it does tent to spike out and lag most of the time.
My other concern was battery life, and durability, now the HTC being more durable and able to take a better beating then the galaxy s3 and it has a better built u cant change the battery so ure stuck just like the iphone 5 users relying on a charger or getting a expansion pack for ure phone. that was a downside, i would preffer to change my battery and be able to run another 7 to 8 hours on 1 single battery then have it die and not be close to a charger and replace the batery. Since i rooted my phone and added a custom rom, ive average battery life of around 10 to 16 hours depending on what im doing per battery use. HTC has good colors and a better camera then the GS3 but overall not enought color compare to the beautiful colorful screen that the Galaxy s3 brings to u, so vivid and bright..
Touchwis compare to sence, both being good softwares, and coming from a sence phone, i never really like it because u couldnt customize it as much as u can with touchwis, so i decided to stick with touchwis and got my first touchwis phone the epic 4g loved it ever since and im loving my new SGS3 which is much more smoother and better. Hope that helps