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[Q] unroot lg nitro HD using superoneclick?

I plan to return my nitro tomorrow before my 14 days is up. It's rooted with superoneclick. Should I bother trying to unroot? Would hate to brick it without a recovery rom available.

It won't brick you phone, I've done it several times already.
In my personal experience the clerks don't bother check the condition of the software on the phone, they turn it on (or not) and that's it.
And besides, if it's bricked, well, there is always a wall charger to blame
P.S.
What are you getting instead?

My mind isn't completely made up yet. I want to love the nitro but the occasional lag, poor scrolling, and battery life is what's ruining it for me. RAM manager has made a difference in app switching. I've been watching you guys closely hoping for proof of an unlocked bootloader as I'm sure another rom or hardware accelerated browsing in ics will make all the difference.
If i ditch it, ill probably just go back to my iPhone 4 for a couple months and see if the at&t version of the nexus gets LTE. I love this display, but don't know if I want to commit to the phone for 2 years. Will let you know what I decide.

Thank [email protected] Unroot worked without any problems. I decided to return it and wait and see what you all can find in the next few weeks. I played with the skyrocket and nitro side by side in the store.. what a difference. The skyrocket is buttery smooth. I would jump on it in a heart beat if there weren't those huge pixels staring me in the face . The HTC Vivid actually felt like a decent compromise if compromises had to be made. Nice qHD display and pretty smooth. I still believe the Nitro has the potential to be the top dog, but not in it's current state.
Keep up the good work. I'd love to see new software on the fantastic hardware.

The display on this is fantastic. I can feel your pain as it's not as smooth as the Skyrocket. I'm not a huge fan of the super amoled - especially compared to this. I have switched to the Zeam launcher and it has made a pretty nice difference. I'm hoping there will be an interim release by LG/AT&T to speed things up and fix some of the other minor bugs.
And most importantly hoping the dev successes continue and we can get some nice custom ROMs going (especially ICS).

I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.

Don't you get 30 days to return?

Malnilion said:
I said this in the unbrick thread as well, but really I must emphasize my phone is much smoother with the Korean rom I flashed. I think I feel confident proclaiming that when ICS or hopefully CyanogenMod come to the Nitro HD, this device will be astounding. It's kind of crappy that our current stock rom is so sluggish, but there is good stuff just around the corner I think.
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what about bloatware? how much of it there? Maybe that's the reason it's smoother?

Kaiser_Beef said:
Don't you get 30 days to return?
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Yes, you have 30 days. Every Nitro owner who bought from Att should be able to return it since it came out this month.

[email protected],
I'd actually say there is at least as much, if not more bloatware. I really can't explain why, but navigating through menus and scrolling through apps just feels smoother. Now, I had never done a factory reset and reformatted my SD card until my fiasco, so it's possible that helped and that the Nitro rom might feel smoother when I get back to it.

Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.

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Well, many people reported their phone feels smother after factory reset even if they didn't install anything prior that.
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Are you kidding me, this phone is Soooo Much smoother after doing a hard reset, even with bloatware still on it. Even now the Atrix feel so much more sluggish compared to this phone. I dont understand wat people are complaining about this phone. Yes, there's many kinks on this phone that LG never took care of, but that's why we have XDA and the great minds in it, that is to improve the phones we have.
You know wat, Go ahead, go and change your phones to the GS II. And when the Nitro HD gets a significant improvement in the sense of ROMs or any other upgrades, all of you who left this phone behind can weep and regret your decisions

Compare an iPhone or skyrocket. There's a huge difference in smoothness vs the nitro.. especially with the web browser (even opera). Even rooted with ram manager and hard reset, it just doesn't compare. Saying there isn't a difference is like my friend's saying they don't see the big pixels in the s ii. Say what you want about iphones, but i think they have spoiled me in terms of user interaction.
All that said, I agree the phone has tremendous potential and will most likely outshine the s ii when all is said and done.. My guess is that some of the lag involves software rendering of the 1280x720. Scroll around and watch the nitro's CPU spike. Custom roms or ICS much resolve some of this which is why I'm going to wait it out a few more weeks or months too see what unfolds before committing to the device long term.

Why do people prefer switching back to Stock ROM?

I'm not a PRO in Android but still, why do some people say "Stock is the way to go"? Because of stability? Less bugs?

it just works.

Because a group of coders have decided what you can or cannot do; took away your freedom. As such, we are human beings and like being confined within boundaries.
So some people like going back to stock.
If you have chosen android, root and go custom and just muck about and explore and learn; the possibilities are endless

Mike556 said:
I'm not a PRO in Android but still, why do some people say "Stock is the way to go"? Because of stability? Less bugs?
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me personally, it isn't worth trading speed and stability for a few extra buttons. but this is all opinions. maybe you should try a few things and form your own opinion of it and not worry about it.

Mike556 said:
I'm not a PRO in Android but still, why do some people say "Stock is the way to go"? Because of stability? Less bugs?
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Because no feature in a custom ROM is worth the time it will take constantly set it up, troubleshoot, endless flashing, and OCD like symptoms.
Stock JB is just too good to mess with it. I unlock and root my devices once I stop getting official updates. I have tried many ROMs, kernels on my GNEX and Nexus 7 and I always go back to stock.
Locked bootloader, no root, encrypted. It just feels good. Plus, if you purchase a new device, all you would have to do is login to your Google account and voila!
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Stock ROMs are great, when JB first came out and before there were AOSP builds I rocked a rooted + BB stock image for a few weeks and thought it was great. I was able to fill in a lot of the missing ROM customization with apps (quiet hours, battery %, toggles, etc...). Smooth, fast, and reliable.
At the end of the day however a ROM built from AOSP source with some tweaks on top is the way to go for me.

Because stock is actually a really good stable feature-rich software package.

Stable, fast, no weird scripts nor heavily themed just pure android experience
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

for me, it just worked. Nothing had to be fiddled with and no headaches about small details. Being able to enjoy your device for what it is, is such a great feeling compared to constantly flashing updates and whatnot.

I run TSF shell launcher so no need for UI tweeks and stock is fine although I do mix it up with a Franco kernel.
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I love stock ROMs. I wish more devs would simply tweak and compile straight aosp ROMs instead of cramming them full of features. Variety is a nice novelty but it wears off quickly reboot after reboot and fc after fc.
And on the same note I know its personal preference, but stock android looks so sleek and clean now that all themes seem just plain ugly. And it seems like most devs either include the theme engine or do some theming of the ROM itself. Just too much going on and affects performance/stability in my opinion.
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LAst time i pointed out this fact, that i like stock more than custom rom (on GNEX), i was told to get iCab and to buy Iphone....
I like stock... Rooted, so i can remove search bar (only that). I can customize in perfect way, without obligation to flash constant updates, without getting fc-s, without taking care which kernel fits best etc...

[Q] Hoping for help with S3 smoothness issues.

I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks

tw557 said:
I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks
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For your browser issue, try Dolphin Beta.
For games like Real Racing, it wasn't made for the S3, therefor, it can't achieve full gfx. A fix to the choopyness would be to look into custom ROMs (Either TW or AOSP based). If it's something that interest you, you have a lot of reading to do before jumping into it but once you understand how it works, it's fairly simple.

tw557 said:
I just picked up a used S3. My contract is up in Sept and wanted to see if I like the android better the then iphone. I have been generally happy with the Iphone once I jailbroke except the really for vibration mode and missing calls and messages. Also missed the openess to get into files and move stuff around like pictures music and videos. I had a galaxy Captivate 2 years ago that was rooted and was pretty happy to get the iphone because everything just worked smoother and less little issues. Now fast forward 2 years and I was pretty excited to get into the a S3 and see all the improvements. Gotta saw pretty disappointing. This phone feels way to close to the captivate of years ago. It is relatively smooth going thru screens and such with Nova launcher. Apps open fast and don't crash. But in most menu screens and certainly many internet screens, it is just not smooth scrolling to down right heavy choppy. And I enjoy a few games that have great graphics. Real Racing 2 and 3 and even some other more less graphic intense once. Pretty disappointed that they are noticeably not as smooth including tiny pauses. Honestly maybe no better then the captivate and daughters Lg Thrill. All super smooth on the iphone. And ideas would be greatly apprieciated. I really want to love this S3 but already just living with it. It has the latest update of 4.1.1. Thanks
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Some possible changes to make:
1. for browser, I use the AOSP browser because it is superior in speed and usability to any other browser I try
2. you could switch to another AOSP rom that will have less bloatware and no skin on top of it slowing it down (this will be slight change)
3. to fix laginess on certain points you can try flashing a different kernel with various tweaks that increase butteryness
4. root and overclock the minimum cpu frequency. While this won't help with graphics too much in games (thats GPU), it will help with laggy transitions. Be forewarned, this might decrease battery life depending on what you end up changing the minimum to
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Thanks for the quick reply. I did try different browers and did settle on the dolphin. It really seemed very little better then the stock browser but the stock browser has the RRS reader pop up in the bar if applicable and I like that feature like the iphone. Some of the choppy webpages are also somewhat choppy on an iphone too. just not as bad. I was hoping to not get into rooting and Roms and figured a stock S3 should be plenty good now. When you say that the games are now programmed for the S3. are they not programmed for the S3 or Android in general. Do these costom roms adjust the programming somehow. I assume not too much issue to do the root but not familiar in detail of the Rom procedures. Would downloading the S3 toolkit from here be a good starting point. Jailbreaking the Iphone was stupid easy.

tw557 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I did try different browers and did settle on the dolphin. It really seemed very little better then the stock browser but the stock browser has the RRS reader pop up in the bar if applicable and I like that feature like the iphone. Some of the choppy webpages are also somewhat choppy on an iphone too. just not as bad. I was hoping to not get into rooting and Roms and figured a stock S3 should be plenty good now. When you say that the games are now programmed for the S3. are they not programmed for the S3 or Android in general. Do these costom roms adjust the programming somehow. I assume not too much issue to do the root but not familiar in detail of the Rom procedures. Would downloading the S3 toolkit from here be a good starting point. Jailbreaking the Iphone was stupid easy.
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It's really easy, just gotta read and understand what you're doing before going into it.
Getting a toolkit can be a start. Although, you can skip that and download pre-rooted stock ROM for your carrier.
Here's a good guide to start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1822308 - I would download GooManager from the market and install TWRP recovery instead of installing CWM recovery like that guide suggests. It's quite simple, just hit a couple buttons
Once you're rooted and have a custom recovery, you can install a ROM from the Dev section (TW or AOSP).

Thanks for all the input and direction to the thread on rooting and Roms. I am very good and can understand directions for this stuff just gets a little overwhelming researching this and seemingless see so many different methods with small variations and then through the word Bricking in too. I love to customize and make stuff my own so i'm pretty sure I will give this a try. Thanks

I am ready to give the rooting a try. I expected a little less confusion then what I'm seeing. I ran across the Casual tool which looked interesting as compared to the download drivers then odin and unziping files and such. As I looked over the list of computer systems I don't see Vista business listed. Will this be a problem. Also does it make a difference if ICS or jellybean. Thanks again

tw557 said:
I am ready to give the rooting a try. I expected a little less confusion then what I'm seeing. I ran across the Casual tool which looked interesting as compared to the download drivers then odin and unziping files and such. As I looked over the list of computer systems I don't see Vista business listed. Will this be a problem. Also does it make a difference if ICS or jellybean. Thanks again
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sorry to hear that you are on vista but it should do the job, my windows 8 even works fine. it doesn't matter which rooted stock rom you flash, but I would recommend flashing Jelly Bean rather than ICS just because well its newer
oh and for first custom rom, I would recommend, Carbon Rom nightlies, they are stable and smooth and have a lot of customization http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136846

[Q] Thoughts on CM 11

Could anyone running "stock" CM 11 on their T-Mo S3 comment on the experience? Is battery usage better/worse/the same as the stock TW 4.3 ROM? Any issues with screen auto-brightness, sensors, etc? Are there any stock Samsung apps that you miss?
I'm on the fence right now- I've been stock & unrooted since I got my S3 almost 2 years ago, but now starting to get the itch to move away from all the Samsung bloat. I know there are some little things I will miss about the Samsung version of some apps like email, but having a more uniform and less junked-up experience is appealing. I know I could root & get rid of the bloat too...
Just curious as to folks' impressions- I've used CM 7-10 in the past and enjoyed it...
Thanks in advance!

Quiet out there! Well, I've run across some reports of camera issues, but that's about the only negative I see with CM11 vs. TouchWiz so far. Oh, and losing WIFI calling, which has never been a big deal to me, but I do like having the option.

Everyone has their own preferences. Personally I am a TW guy. But there's plenty of folks on both sides. Great thing is you can try it and if you don't like it, just flash back to stock based.

Yup just try it, its nice, but up to personal preference.. I think camera and WiFi calling is one of the only downsides. I didn't experience much trouble with camera it was very stable, just that the touchwiz camera app is much better and takes superior photos IMO, also has more options.. You could always try a 3rd party camera app of course, so again its personal preference

DocHoliday77 said:
Everyone has their own preferences. Personally I am a TW guy. But there's plenty of folks on both sides. Great thing is you can try it and if you don't like it, just flash back to stock based.
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Me too. I like the camera, color point is a neat feature that no other camera seems to offers, I find the launcher works well and flows nice. I keep trying other ROM's with 1534534534543 features that I don't really ever use or need and come back to the stock ROM. Running 4.4.2 from my carrier, rooted with towelroot, KT kernel for power tweaking, can uninstall all the bloat I want and I'm good.
It's a choice, but sometimes, there are too many choices. XXX Rom has all the best (our option of the best) features of A,B,C,D,E,F,G. Ya, well our rom YYY has all the best features of A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H. Ooooo. Does it really matter? lol. I like being able to update my Gapps when I want, not have to run a special version.
XDA did a test a while ago against the Linaro toolchain compiles vs gcc and found no real difference in speed of apps or battery life. XDA or some other Android site did a test of ART vs dalvik, not a huge difference, ART performing worse in some cases. Same with all the build.prop tweaks that others tout. In reality and in testing, most don't do anything, or worse in some cases.
There is too many, I guess rumors out there about Android that everyone jumps on like "tweaks", "compile flags", "odex vs deodex" that keep going around, and don't seem to change anything other than offer bugs. Hard to find a custom ROM that isn't updated all the time to fix this issues or reports of random reboots, etc, all the time in the threads.
To each their own, but in reality, I don't think there is much difference between all the different ROM's. All small, small, variations on a theme. And half the difference or added in things, not many people use anyways.

What rom are you running and why :)

Hello everyone,
I have had my 10 for a while now and I have at the current time decided to stay stock. Much to my surprise stock has been a joy to use. This has overall been the best stock experience I have had on a device. I like it way more than my Moto X Pure, and note 4. Let me know down below. Thank you to everyone who participates.

Spent a few days flashing roms but ended up coming back to stock due to hassle-less OTAs lol

Stock as it has everything I need in terms of speed, battery, and theming.... I can get otas instant instead of waiting for a rom to be built off of it which is a huge plus in security.
Also, clean flashing and starting from scratch gets tiring after six years of rom flashing.
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Running stock as well just rooted and what not. Waiting for some aosp Roms to flash.
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So far I have been pretty shocked to see how satisfied users are with stock compared to previous devices. Now are some of HTCs claims a stretch at best... Absolutely. Many seem to agree that though it is not perfect it is perfect for their needs. I must give a tip of my hat to HTC after the issues HTC has had the last couple years I am glad they were able to make a solid, dependable, smooth device.

Running LeeDroid. Everything just works well with it, the support is great, the thread is really fun to read, it works with Verizon, strips out a bunch of the bloat/junk (Verizon still needs to get their crap together), and adds some nice tweaks.

Stock is basically my goal. On all my previous phones I ran roms to get what HTC is giving us. So what I used to have to go out of my way to get, is just default on the 10, it's why I bought it. I haven't rooted yet either. I'm sure I will eventually, but right now I don't have a reason to. My phone use isn't that advanced anymore. I think I out grew modding and overly customizing. I've been messing with everything since back with windows mobile. Now I'm just at the point where I have few apps I use regularly and don't care about messing with everything anymore.

What has made the most difference overall for you? What has made you choose the rom you have? What feature did that rom give that you were looking for?