[Q] if i cant root should i boot - HTC Wildfire S

hi everyone thank you for taking the time to read my post. my htc magic is give me a few problems. it's been a great phone for about a year I got it before it was discontinued. the phone is being replaced under warranty exchange. I had a few smarphones to pick from wildfire. s seemed to be the best. one. looking at the forms the Gsm / T-Mobile model can't be rooted. looks like I should just sent it back and get a different phone. is this the right thing to do should I hold out until soft were method for rooting can be obtained. at most I have a few days to decide. I love to see any feedback on his issue

First of all, WS is not bad phone at all.
For average user,it's more than ok. The biggest problem is it can not be rooted without xtc clip.
If you are not advanced user, keep it. If you can afford some other phone, replace WS.
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Right, only you can softroot with a software (zergrush and an modified adb sequence). But if u don't know what u do, then read all and read and read.

Thanks for all the feed back. There are a few things I like about this phone. BY default wireless tether is turned on. It has android 2.3
As far as what I can afford, this phone is a warranty exchange so I was limited with my choices.
at some point i would like to put a custom rom on this phone. The boot Loader is locked so that's out of the question. Looks like most every one here has the same problem so I guess I joined the club. I will just cross my fingers and hope that HTC dose what it promised and unlocks the boot loader.
Worst case I will have this phone for about 8 months be stuck at android 2.3 upgrade and think very hard about buying any thing from a company that locks the boot loader. Thanks for taking the time to ready my post

First , welcome to the club.
Second, don't count on HTC to unlock bootloader for this phone. If they ever do that, it will be too late, this phone will be forgotten by devs.
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Pros and cons of rooting

hey all.
Had my desire since first came out in march, not really thought about rooting till now with froyo.
So basically im scared to root due to the number of usb bricking, yet i want to root to get froyo, but with release date of June hanging around i question whether to just wait.
So be nice for a list of pros and cons of rooting, for me, and probably the other number of people who are in the same situation as me.
thanks
Well the usb bricking issues can be fixed now so that is no longer a problem.
Pros for rooting:
1.You can customise the handset till your heart is content. This includes removing sense if you don't like it, or even removing system apps that you hate. Friend stream, peep, and stocks spring to mind!
2. You will most probably get the latest firmware before the official updates are rolled out by HTC.
3. You can use apps that need root like setcpu, and titanium backup.
4. Froyo test roms are available and work extremely well with a few minor niggles/bugs.
Cons:
You invalidate your warranty.
I'm really only touching the surface with this list. If you are confident in rooting then I can see no reason to hold back!
Yer think i will have to root, new update has just confirmed, waiting for htc, then t-mobile will just annoy me!
To do with warrenty, i have insurance so if my phone breaks, i can just claim on that anyway? pay little excess and sorted surely??
socktug said:
Well the usb bricking issues can be fixed now so that is no longer a problem.
Pros for rooting:
1.You can customise the handset till your heart is content. This includes removing sense if you don't like it, or even removing system apps that you hate. Friend stream, peep, and stocks spring to mind!
2. You will most probably get the latest firmware before the official updates are rolled out by HTC.
3. You can use apps that need root like setcpu, and titanium backup.
4. Froyo test roms are available and work extremely well with a few minor niggles/bugs.
Cons:
You invalidate your warranty.
I'm really only touching the surface with this list. If you are confident in rooting then I can see no reason to hold back!
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i'm not sure if its true but my friend said that even if you root your phone htc will still replace the phone for you if anything happens.
can anyone confirm this is true? or heard anything similar to this situation?
even if you root it, you can always return to a proper stock ROM and they won't notice anything, there isn't anything on the Desire that screams "I'VE BEEN ROOTED/UNLOCKED" like the N1.
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even if you root it, you can always return to a proper stock ROM and they won't notice anything, there isn't anything on the Desire that screams "I'VE BEEN ROOTED/UNLOCKED" like the N1.
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Not necessarily true. If you root and then your phone subsequently dies, you may not be able to flash a stock ROM back again.
However, anecdotal evidence suggests that HTC don't bother to actually try to diagnose a fault in a phone, and just replace the mainboard as a matter of course.
Regards,
Dave
Im tempted to root but I've read so many horror stories surrounding bricked Desires.
What recovery is there for USB bricked Desires now? Links?
Guys i am orange uk contract and have insurance on hc desire. I have rooted desire and is working fine. lets say anything goes wrong with it. do i send to orange or htc for repair. what if i send it to htc for repair won't orange say why didn't you send it to us?. I am paying £6 per month on insurance. what do i do will orange repiar the phone even though its rooted or will they say you have broke the term of insurance?
There is no uk orange stock rom so i can revert back to. Will i be screwed if anything goes wrong?
I didn't even release how many questions i have asked in this forum. Please pardon my english.
personally I dont think they'll be to bothered if you have taken the effort to send it to them, the Orange repair centre probably even has the capability to flash the Orange ROM to it anyway. Also if its a hardware fault then they dont need to touch the software really.
Of course this is just my opinion, not fact but in this life you have to be bold to succeed and also be prepared to accept failure. @ronaldo, if you send it to HTC, Orange aren't gonna give a **** are they lol
How long does it take to root? Looked at some guides doesnt seem to take too long.
might go for it when i have a whole day spare to play with it etc...
after all, htc said when they now details about rooting, they would release a schedule, as nothing has been released yet, think it might be a while untill it comes officially.
I bricked my Orange Hero when putting a new ROM on it and they did a nxt day exchange, obv I didn't say id rooted it, just said it wouldnt switch on after rooting. Not sure they do the whole repair centre thing anymore
What are the chances to brick my desire. If i brick it is there any fix.
I am asking because I promised to my wife that this will be the last phone that I will buy. I am one step away from rooting it.
I believe there is a fix for bricking it now???
Not 100% sure though
Phil750123 said:
I believe there is a fix for bricking it now???
Not 100% sure though
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There is indeed. If you do manage to brick it, you just need to follow some simple instructions in the dev forums to bring it back.
do you need to have your phone rooted to update your radio? :s
ronaldo9_r9 said:
Guys i am orange uk contract and have insurance on hc desire. I have rooted desire and is working fine. lets say anything goes wrong with it. do i send to orange or htc for repair. what if i send it to htc for repair won't orange say why didn't you send it to us?. I am paying £6 per month on insurance. what do i do will orange repiar the phone even though its rooted or will they say you have broke the term of insurance?
There is no uk orange stock rom so i can revert back to. Will i be screwed if anything goes wrong?
I didn't even release how many questions i have asked in this forum. Please pardon my english.
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I pay for insurance too. I had to send my Touch HD back 8 TIMES, YES EIGHT! I had it flashed, they never said nething... If you're worried as you pay for insurance, if it goes wrong u've lost it haven't you... Nothing to send back, plus nice new battery
Exactly. Software isn't a problem for them, so off the record they can just plug it in and reflash it with whatever firmware they want too. If we can do it, they can do it more
Just gotta be bold (and lie a little).
Just a thought on the whole insurance thing, perhaps you could tell them you lost the phone if your worried it wont be repaired. excess is usually the same or just a little bit more. (edit: just notice gunja said the same thing, great minds think alike )
step too far
diggedy said:
Just a thought on the whole insurance thing, perhaps you could tell them you lost the phone if your worried it wont be repaired. excess is usually the same or just a little bit more. (edit: just notice gunja said the same thing, great minds think alike )
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not telling them you've flashed it and sending it back to HTC to reflash it back is one thing, but pretending you've lost it and claiming on your insurance is a bit cheeky. Not to mention definitely illegal...
He he I get the hint. I went to Orange shop asked them i want unlock code for my Orange HTC desire. That guy said if you do that it will void guarantee. Is he right? I want to unlock on all network. Does that really void it?
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New One X user :) :(

Just got my One X today after coming from the Galaxy Nexus.
I normaly switch phones every 3-4 month`s (i get bored fast ) and rooted most of them.
Read about rooting the one x and it scares me that the loss of warranty by unlocking the bootloader through htcdev is permanent. It`s stupid imo that flashing an official RUU doesn`t restore the warranty, so i`ll guess i will not root this one.
But that said i must say it is quite fast and sense feels lighter and less prominent than pervious versions.
Also the screen-on time is quite impressive, almost 3 hours already and 30 % power left.
Hope to enjoy it while it lasts and hope be learning from you guys on this forum
damn, are you sure you can't get back warrenty by relocking the boatloader? (i am already rooted )
I'm gonna root it in 2013 when my warranty ends.
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godutch said:
damn, are you sure you can't get back warrenty by relocking the boatloader? (i am already rooted )
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unlock and you are still covered. i have send my phone in for repairs and it is unlocked. hardware issues you are covered for example if the screen starts coming off all of a sudden you are covered and etc. but say you overclocked your phone and the motherboard got fried then you are on your own. so basically here it goes
you are covered for hardware issues but anything software related that you might have flashed upon the phone you are not covered
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I'm gonna root it in 2013 when my warranty ends.
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I need root with every new phone, even if It's just restore my titanium backup from the previous phone. I don't think It's fair I should loose warranty because of that.
godutch said:
I need root with every new phone, even if It's just restore my titanium backup from the previous phone. I don't think It's fair I should loose warranty because of that.
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if you actually read my post just above it states that only hardware related issues your warranty will be intact if you was to unlock the bootloader through HTC dev and there are threads already here regarding this issue if you actually took the time to search regarding what you are moaning about. But hey what do i care if you unlock your phone or not.

HTC Warranty Workaround ?

I read through few posts about people being able to claim their warranty even after unlocking their bootloader , now these people had almost the same problem ..there screen wouldn't display anything or their phone wouldn't boot up at all. So I guess HTC won't check for your warranty if your phone is not booting up ...they'll just check your bill and see if its under warranty and do it for free ...
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Well I've seen people get away with this, but I still darent unlock/root.
Because I know what my luck is like and I would be the only one that doesn't get repaired !!
It took me 4 weeks to pluck up the courage to unlock my phone and I'm glad I did. I now have no warrenty but I do have an awesome phone.
Also I heard that if your phone is completely dead there is no way to tell if the phone is unlocked or not. So there is a reasonable chance you'll get your phone replaced.
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It took me 4 weeks to pluck up the courage to unlock my phone and I'm glad I did. I now have no warrenty but I do have an awesome phone.
Also I heard that if your phone is completely dead there is no way to tell if the phone is unlocked or not. So there is a reasonable chance you'll get your phone replaced.
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lol sounds like a good plan, now everyone who needs repair will burn it's phone and get new replacement under warranty
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It took me 4 weeks to pluck up the courage to unlock my phone and I'm glad I did. I now have no warrenty but I do have an awesome phone.
Also I heard that if your phone is completely dead there is no way to tell if the phone is unlocked or not. So there is a reasonable chance you'll get your phone replaced.
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Yeah I've been debating for about 3 weeks now, would you really say its worth it?
What ROM you using?
And, about the warranty, what does completely dead mean?
Not booting?
Or bricked etc?
Cheers mate.
I am using Cyanogen Domination 10. It is still work in progress but it stable enough for everyday use. I would also say if you do unlock your phone try roms other as well because they all offer something different.
Dead as in bricked, although if you follow unlock steps carefully there is little chance of bricking your phone
I unlocked my phone the day I bought it ... I'm not regretting it all but the little yellow spot in the bottom left corner is annoying sometimes ..
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lets just make this clear, its certainly posted here already in many many threads...
if you read the unlocking stuff properly on the htc website, it clearly says that the warranty will be invalid for anything caused by unlocking the bootloader
so if you have a blatant hardware problem, ie the wifi antenna problem, they still have to repair it foc
so basically, unless you brick your device, you still have a warranty.
they might try insisting on replacing the main board for a cost, which i've heard quite often. the wifi fix requires changing the main board anyway, so for at least that problem, they shouldn't charge to fix.
still, it does depend on the type of problem as to whether you could convince them not to change the main board..

[Q] Fried eMMC chip Desire Z

Hi everybody,
After having tried to sort this mess out myself for days now, I feel that I am all out of options. I hate to have to bother you with this problem, because I'm sure I'm not the first one that has a fried Desire Z, but I really hope somebody can help me out. It seems that none of the solutions I have seen to revive this phone work for me.
Okay, so after having made that apology for wasting your time beforehand, let's see if somebody has any idea how to make my phones heart beating again.
The phone in question is the HTC Desire Z. It's not rooted and it's S-On. Honestly, before my phone died I did not even know what H-boot, fastboot, rooting or S-On meant. I had never heard of a bootloader before, but I've tried to educate myself on the matter as good as I could.
Anyway, it died after I tried to install a bunch of Market updates. Google taught me that that is how the phone dies for most people.
During the Market updates the phone froze, and I pulled the battery. After inserting the battery again, the phone got stuck in a boot loop. Pulling the battery yet again fixed that issue, and the phone booted fine.
And that's when I got stupid and decided to run the Market updates again. Long story short: Phone froze again, I pulled the battery, and now the phone is stuck displaying the HTC logo (without the "'Quietly Brilliant" slogan underneath) on a white background.
First thing I did was calling HTC support, just to find out the phone is not under warranty anymore. So I'll have to mess with it myself, hopefully with you guys trying to hold my hand during the process...
The phone will still boot in H-boot.
If I select FASTBOOT I can still communicate with the darn thing when it's hooked up to my computer's USB-port. So at least that part still works. I installed the Android SDK on my computer so I have fastboot on it.
Selecting RECOVERY will make the phone reboot. After displaying the HTC-logo for about 5-10 seconds it will display a fancy looking icon of a phone with a green arrow for a couple of seconds (I can try and make a photo of it if anyone wants to see it?), and after that the screen goes dark. Then it will vibrate 7 times, and that's it.
Selecting FACTORY RESET just instantly freezes the phone in H-boot.
I did find a couple of topics on this forum that looked helpful, but I just cannot figure out how to make it all work.
Here is one that looked very promising:
"[GUIDE] Booting an Android System when only Recovery is at your disposal"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572924
However, my problem is that Recovery is not at my disposal.
And that is where I got stuck. What is also not very helpful is that my phone is not rooted and it's S-on, and I can't find out how to root a unresponsive phone with which I only have FASTBOOT access. I don't even know if that is possible at all.
So yeah, again:
A completely stock Desire S with a fried eMMC chip and no working recovery in H-boot...Any ideas, or am I just really, really screwed? With my own research I've come to conclude the latter, but I so sincerely hope someone can prove me wrong...
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For what it's worth, here is the H-boot information
VISION PUT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.85.0013
MICROP-0425
RADIO-26.10.51.26
eMMC-boot
Apr 11 2011, 23:36:27
Yeah probably screwed... sorry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33917375
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Hey, thanks for the reply. You are kinda confirming what I had already found out.
Guess all that is left to do is to take a hammer to my Desire Z brick, and to start to learn how to live life without a cell-phone and internet everywhere you go. Well, I guess we all did that 10 years ago.
Did you try the ruu... unlikely but last hope
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Thanks for your reply, demkantor.
No, I have not tried the RUU. And I'm sorry for having to ask this, because I'm sure you have answered this question a million times already, but can you explain to me what you mean by that?
I did run the "fastboot oem check_emmc_mid" command, and my chip showed up as the Samsung. So that doesn't look good.
It stands for ROM utility update or something like that, its what HTC uses for a full update to their phones when not done through an ota.
the thread I linked you too has a heading like stuck in boot loop not rooted
There I suggest trying to boot in same mode, factory reset or flashing latest ruu, unfortunately with a stock phone there isn't much else to do. But if all fails it more or less insures you have the bad chip and it has lost the ability to read and write to it.
Instruction to flash the ruu or in the HTC website, link in that post to it, just simple fastboot commands
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demkantor said:
It stands for ROM utility update or something like that, its what HTC uses for a full update to their phones when not done through an ota.
the thread I linked you too has a heading like stuck in boot loop not rooted
There I suggest trying to boot in same mode, factory reset or flashing latest ruu, unfortunately with a stock phone there isn't much else to do. But if all fails it more or less insures you have the bad chip and it has lost the ability to read and write to it.
Instruction to flash the ruu or in the HTC website, link in that post to it, just simple fastboot commands
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Thanks again for replying so quickly, demkantor.
I will look at that thread, and try flashing the latest ruu, and report back here. Although I guess we both kinda know my phone is completely dead already, at least I want to have tried every possible solution for a stock phone.
I'm just kinda upset with this whole business. This was not a cheap phone when I bought it, and all HTC has to say is: Sorry, your warranty ran out in August. There was a 16 month warranty on this phone, but of course the darn thing decided to die right after that.
I can still send it in for repairs, but I'll be looking at 250 dollars to have it fixed. That's money I don't have.
Any other comparable phone I can get on ebay will run about 150-200 dollars, and that's also something I was not expecting to have to shell out, especially with Christmas coming up.
And because I don't have a back-up cellphone, and no land-line, it just means that I'm pretty much completely cut off. I mean, on one hand it's really peaceful not to get any phone calls, but it's mostly just outright frustrating.
I can't believe there is not an extended warranty or something on these phones, because I'm sure that HTC is very well aware of this problem by now. Although the lady from HTC-support told me that I was the first person ever she talked to that had this problem.
Oh well, I'm just venting right now, so I'll stop typing, start flashing the ruu, and report back here in a little bit.
And thanks again demkantor, for your willingness to reply to questions that have been asked a million times already...
May I suggest buying a cheap g1 to have as a backup incase another similar thing happens, they are quite inexpensive now and are probably one of the best made smart phones, not to mention still somewhat developed on. Also consider finding another g2 or mytouch 4g slide if you want a qwerty, or for more money the samsung relay 4g seems promising.
For me personaly, although my opinion on htc has dropped tremedously over the past year or two, the g1 and g2 are just amazing phones for their time and to this day I can not find a better phone to suit my needs then the g2/dz regardless the price.
If you are in desperate need I used to buy and refurbish to sell both g1s and g2s (along with other phones) but have stopped selling for a few months due to school and getting married and all sorts of personal things keeping my side buissness moving (also fix and repair cars, motercycles etc) but if you can't find or need a reputable seller feel free to pm me as this is the last week of finals ill probably do some more of this soon
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demkantor said:
May I suggest buying a cheap g1 to have as a backup incase another similar thing happens, they are quite inexpensive now and are probably one of the best made smart phones, not to mention still somewhat developed on. Also consider finding another g2 or mytouch 4g slide if you want a qwerty, or for more money the samsung relay 4g seems promising.
For me personaly, although my opinion on htc has dropped tremedously over the past year or two, the g1 and g2 are just amazing phones for their time and to this day I can not find a better phone to suit my needs then the g2/dz regardless the price.
If you are in desperate need I used to buy and refurbish to sell both g1s and g2s (along with other phones) but have stopped selling for a few months due to school and getting married and all sorts of personal things keeping my side buissness moving (also fix and repair cars, motercycles etc) but if you can't find or need a reputable seller feel free to pm me as this is the last week of finals ill probably do some more of this soon
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Hi demkantor. Well, to be honest, after this fiasco of a phone I'm done with HTC. Needless to say I will never want to buy another Desire Z, because who's to say that one is not just gonna die soon? Also, my previous phone was a TytnII (also made by HTC, running Windows Mobile 6.1), and that thing was incredibly slow out of the box, and gradually got worse and worse over time. Apparently the Tytn II has a graphics chip that HTC never bothered to make a driver for, hence the screen is incredibly slow when doing things like scrolling through a menu or webpage.
HTC has now proven twice to me that they don't give a crap about their products, so neither am I going to.
That being said, I did try to flash the RUU with the link you provided, but it doesn't work. The updater tries to reboot the boot-loader and that makes my phone freeze up.
So I guess that's totally it then? Phone is dead, and that's that.
Yeah that's too bad, phone is shot. The g2/dz had two different chips, one great and one prone to failure. I have been liking the build quality of Samsung a little more as of late, but the older HTC's do seem better. The g1 suggestion is just to have a cheap sturdy backup, but you will probably want a more advanced phone for daily use.
There are always one of the various nexus models, but none come with a hardware keyboard. So if you need one and want to stay away from HTC consider the relay 4g by Samsung.
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Yeah that's too bad, phone is shot. The g2/dz had two different chips, one great and one prone to failure. I have been liking the build quality of Samsung a little more as of late, but the older HTC's do seem better. The g1 suggestion is just to have a cheap sturdy backup, but you will probably want a more advanced phone for daily use.
There are always one of the various nexus models, but none come with a hardware keyboard. So if you need one and want to stay away from HTC consider the relay 4g by Samsung.
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Hi demkantor, Right, that's what I thought. Phone is shot. I'm gonna smack the hell out of it with a hammer now, just to get some frustration out of my system. Thinking about uploading that to Youtube, just to see how many kids out there will reply with a: "why did you kill a perfectly good phone?..."
If only this one would have come with the Sandisk chip. Who would have guessed it was possible for the eMMC to die this quickly? Little over a year and a half old, and always babied the darn thing. Not a scratch on it, never dropped...
Thank you for the G1 suggestion, but I'd rather save up a little longer and then buy a phone I do like. Guess I might have to do without the qwerty-keyboard in the future, because there are not a lot of phone out there with that option anymore.
I'll take a look at the relay 4g by Samsung. In the meantime, I did send you another PM...:good:
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Yeah, the 4G looks like a nice phone, but is:
1) Way out of my budget
2) It's a T-mobile phone. I have an AT&T simcard...
Well, I can't believe there's no way out with HTC?!?!?!?
My backup phone is a brand new htc desire Z. ( I guy from my cell pohone provider get rid of it since they are ''old'').
Played some months with it, take it when my daily desirez had some trouble with custom roms...
So my unused back up desire z with stock rom (no-rotted), just get what you described!! Tried everything, looks like fried emmc.
Got the 7 times vibrate, htc logo, freeze on ruu restore...
what a waste...
Hi oVeRdOsE. Yeah, it's just outright ridiculous, how quick these phones with the bad eMMC's die. And HTC just doesn't care.
RUU !
RUU option from fastboot is your best chance of *trying* to save it !!
Else you could try and replace/repair the eMMC yourself !!
the Desire Z is still better then others in the market ! try ur best to save it !
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RUU option from fastboot is your best chance of *trying* to save it !!
Else you could try and replace/repair the eMMC yourself !!
the Desire Z is still better then others in the market ! try ur best to save it !
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I understantd, but still, my dz is almost new...
RUU is just running for ever, do nothing.
with a fried chip your emmc can not read/write to some or all partitions making an ruu not an option. The only thing to do is boot from sd if you were rooted, if not time to get another phone, it sucks but yeah...
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with a fried chip your emmc can not read/write to some or all partitions making an ruu not an option. The only thing to do is boot from sd if you were rooted, if not time to get another phone, it sucks but yeah...
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Is eMMC replaceable?
If you own a factory machine to solder a new one in, if you were super good at it, soldering by hand would be extreamly difficult and getting a new chip to solder in would be hard as well. Then you would need to JTAG the new firmware onto the new chip... I'd just buy a new phone or buy a new motherboard
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If you own a factory machine to solder a new one in, if you were super good at it, soldering by hand would be extreamly difficult and getting a new chip to solder in would be hard as well. Then you would need to JTAG the new firmware onto the new chip... I'd just buy a new phone or buy a new motherboard
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Asking cuz i saw someone in forum have replaced it for like a 15 euros.I wouldn't try cuz i'm to nervous and will send it to the wall as a result If it was bigger...well i could make it. I know a guy who can do it. Actually he root my phone, cuz i didn't do it right after i bought it and didn't want to lose everything on phone. He has this little toolbox, that attaching to sim port and root in a 5 minutes or less
Yes, you could replace the eMMC chip, but to do BGA soldering you need special equipment and you need to be pretty skilled. Because of the known problem with the HTC Desire phones, the Chinese jumped on the bandwagon and are offering eMMC chips that come pre-installed.
This basically means that you don't need JTAG to put new firmware on the chip. After soldering it'll boot straight up.
You can buy one of these chips here, for example:
http://www.parts4repair.com/htc-desire-s-sandisk-sdin5c2-8g-nand-flash-chip-with-f/
Another fun fact is that the replacement chip is 8GB. But, as others said before: You need skill and the right equipment. I have a soldering iron and some basic skill, but I'm not even going to attempt to do this.

Dead HTC 10 ?!

Hello Guys, im new to 10 forum but in the past 12 years i used only HTC devices so im planing to leave my m8 and jump to 10
My question is this: I have a offer for a HTC 10 in brilliant cosmetic condition no sratches no even single sratch on the panel perfect as brand new condition never been droped or watered but the phone cannot switch ON.
The owner of the device have it from around 3 months and tell me that he was trying to SIM UNLOCK it somehow even he don`t know what he was doind coz he is not very familiar with things like this and NOW the phone its seems dead.
Its a Shame because is even under waranty but was locked on a network.
Anyway he is going to sell it for about 50 USD im asking you
Do the deal worth it? and what can cause the reason for this DEAD HTC 10 after trying to Sim Unlock it.
I think to try eveyrhting posible to give this phone a second life and after a week will be able to take it and see whats goes i don`t know more info i mean do i have access to Recovery or Fastboot since the device is not here till the next week but my question is do this worth it and what can be the cause of NO switching ON anymore.
The owner sayd that before to attempt this Sim Unlock the phone was worked perfectly fine.
Thanks in advance for the advices and of course when is with me will Update the thread with more info about the device.
Thanks
tsalta said:
Hello Guys, im new to 10 forum but in the past 12 years i used only HTC devices so im planing to leave my m8 and jump to 10
My question is this: I have a offer for a HTC 10 in brilliant cosmetic condition no sratches no even single sratch on the panel perfect as brand new condition never been droped or watered but the phone cannot switch ON.
The owner of the device have it from around 3 months and tell me that he was trying to SIM UNLOCK it somehow even he don`t know what he was doind coz he is not very familiar with things like this and NOW the phone its seems dead.
Its a Shame because is even under waranty but was locked on a network.
Anyway he is going to sell it for about 50 USD im asking you
Do the deal worth it? and what can cause the reason for this DEAD HTC 10 after trying to Sim Unlock it.
I think to try eveyrhting posible to give this phone a second life and after a week will be able to take it and see whats goes i don`t know more info i mean do i have access to Recovery or Fastboot since the device is not here till the next week but my question is do this worth it and what can be the cause of NO switching ON anymore.
The owner sayd that before to attempt this Sim Unlock the phone was worked perfectly fine.
Thanks in advance for the advices and of course when is with me will Update the thread with more info about the device.
Thanks
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Do the deal worth it? and what can cause the reason for this DEAD HTC 10 after trying to Sim Unlock it. Well that's enitrely the problem with buying phone not working. You can't troubleshoot all the internal hardware like you can a PC and test what works and what doesn't work. you would need a working HTC 10 to swap parts with to test.
That said my opinion, forget about this phone. Go buy a working phone on swappa, ebay or HTC.com they are having a $200 off sale and you would have the peace of mind, knowing that you have a working phone. swappa would be best if you wanna negotiate a good deal with a seller.
Or go to ebay - factory unlocked 10's are $400 delivered all over the place.
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I know what you are saying but listen
I know this guy is a friend of mine i know the device is brand new he bought it before 3 months in this case when is bricked after atempt to Sim Unlock im sure its SOFTWARE related problem becuase like i sayd the phone is in Mint perfect cosmetic condition no a single dust or scratch.
I know that its HARD to really Brick a device forever on a software level.
So i know also how much cost a brand new or second hand HTC 10 the goal here is do 50 Bucks worth it coz if i think stright only the Rear and Front Panel and the Displey in my opition worth more.
Im asking you what can cause Broken phone after attempt to Sim Unlock.
Thanks in advance
tsalta said:
I know what you are saying but listen
I know this guy is a friend of mine i know the device is brand new he bought it before 3 months in this case when is bricked after atempt to Sim Unlock im sure its SOFTWARE related problem becuase like i sayd the phone is in Mint perfect cosmetic condition no a single dust or scratch.
I know that its HARD to really Brick a device forever on a software level.
So i know also how much cost a brand new or second hand HTC 10 the goal here is do 50 Bucks worth it coz if i think stright only the Rear and Front Panel and the Displey in my opition worth more.
Im asking you what can cause Broken phone after attempt to Sim Unlock.
Thanks in advance
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If its software why cant your turn the phone on? If its software you need the phone to be able to boot to download mode to flash RUU. I think your friends is lying to you. If its still under warranty why doesnt he return it back to the carrier? How about he give you the phone and if you get it fixed you give him the $50. If hes your friend he would understand.

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