I've searched back a few pages but couldn't find, what date is this suppose to be released here in the US on Verizon?
Hasn't been announced yet. I've seen on various blogs that it should be week of 21st.
The rumor I'm holding to right now is the 21st. The Google contest seems to corroborate this.
Android Forums has a thread about the release date for Verizon and Droid Life has a leaked product release schedule (sorry, can't post links)
vespoid said:
The rumor I'm holding to right now is the 21st. The Google contest seems to corroborate this.
Android Forums has a thread about the release date for Verizon and Droid Life has a leaked product release schedule (sorry, can't post links)
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well the 21st would make a lot of sense.
They released the razor on the 11th (probably moved it back to Friday instead of monday because they thought it was cute to do the 11/11/11 thing)
then today on the 14th the rezound comes out, so a full week for that to sell and then the Nexus releases in time for holiday shopping. Hope it's true, I'm pumped for this phone.
latest rumor/update speculates 12/1...
We don't know. Most assume early next week.
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latest rumor/update speculates 12/1...
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I am going to say false on the delay (opinion only). If there were big enough problems with the phone, then google would not have just released the source code. If it turns out to be true it is a marketing ploy to sell more razers and rezounds. I hope it is still releasing soon.
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I am going to say false on the delay (opinion only). If there were big enough problems with the phone, then google would not have just released the source code. If it turns out to be true it is a marketing ploy to sell more razers and rezounds. I hope it is still releasing soon.
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Just remember that on top of everything Samsung/Google are putting into the HSPA+ version, Verizon has to add their own network stack for CDMA/LTE and is notoriously long in the tooth on testing devices and software. I would not be surprised at all if there is a slight delay with the LTE version.
theandroidsite.com/2011/11/14/verizon-samsung-galaxy-nexus-spotted-amazon-priced-249-coming-1-2-weeks/
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According to another rumor it's going to be released on the 18th.
http://phandroid.com/2011/11/14/mor...s-will-be-released-this-friday-november-18th/
The Verizon store manager I talked to seems to confirm the rumor that it's pushed back to December. Not surprising since Verizon does take a long time to test devices on their network before releasing them, and might just explain why they still won't give us a date - the testing isn't done, so even they don't know.
Does anyone have an update on this or is it sill unknown?
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Does anyone have an update on this or is it sill unknown?
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Only thing known is Google/samsung screwed up.
Worst launch of a hyped device in recent memory.
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Only thing known is Google/samsung screwed up.
Worst launch of a hyped device in recent memory.
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How, exactly, is that known? Nobody knows *what* is happening yet. Nobody knows when it was scheduled to launch, nor do they know when it will. Right now everything you hear is rumors...nothing is *known*.
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How, exactly, is that known? Nobody knows *what* is happening yet. Nobody knows when it was scheduled to launch, nor do they know when it will. Right now everything you hear is rumors...nothing is *known*.
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I think everyone KNOWS Samsung/Google screwed up.
Not sure whats hard to comprehend about that. A huge opportunity was lost to make Galaxy Nexus a household name and steal a huge spotlight from iOS/iPhone4s. The fact there is no schedule and no dates is WHY they screwed up.
You do NOT run product launches like this. Especially after making a friggin event out of it.
They said it would be available in November... So far, that is accurate. While I too am a little annoyed, I think that's just due to my own impatience.
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I think everyone KNOWS Samsung/Google screwed up.
Not sure whats hard to comprehend about that. A huge opportunity was lost to make Galaxy Nexus a household name and steal a huge spotlight from iOS/iPhone4s. The fact there is no schedule and no dates is WHY they screwed up.
You do NOT run product launches like this. Especially after making a friggin event out of it.
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Well i have to disagree with you on that. I dont think voogle is trying to make a household name. Maybe samsung is but theyre only the manufacturer here. Google has messed up though by keeping us in the dark. They were more transparent and punctual before but the only official thing that came out was uk on the 17th and they have done that. But damn them for not giving us more details about unlocked hspa+ versions. And as much as i hate they gave verizon exclusivity in thedark usa, theyre even being mum with that.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.
To fdm1: I recollect it was a little more honked up than that. Originally was said to be released about the same time as the new iphone, then a Google media announcement was set for early Oct got delayed for this reason and that and mid Oct was a surprise announcement in Hong Kong with little information release. The presentation was buggy, no info re: VZN, no estimates on pricing, no estimates on release dates, etc. And today a 16gb version is released in the UK but still no official word of a release date, pricing, or device specifics for the US.
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I think everyone KNOWS Samsung/Google screwed up.
Not sure whats hard to comprehend about that. A huge opportunity was lost to make Galaxy Nexus a household name and steal a huge spotlight from iOS/iPhone4s. The fact there is no schedule and no dates is WHY they screwed up.
You do NOT run product launches like this. Especially after making a friggin event out of it.
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I completely disagree with you.
Google has no interest in making the Nexus line a house-hold name. Every Nexus launch has seen minimal advertising and a lower-number of units sold than most other high-profile phones.
What Google does with the Nexus line is give people that want a vanilla Android experience the chance to have just that. They aren't trying to "steal a huge spotlight" from Apple...
And there's no set "way" to run product launches. It's their company, their product, and they can do whatever they want with it. You might not like it, but that doesn't mean they messed up...it just means they didn't do what you wanted them to do.
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I completely disagree with you.
Google has no interest in making the Nexus line a house-hold name. Every Nexus launch has seen minimal advertising and a lower-number of units sold than most other high-profile phones.
What Google does with the Nexus line is give people that want a vanilla Android experience the chance to have just that. They aren't trying to "steal a huge spotlight" from Apple...
And there's no set "way" to run product launches. It's their company, their product, and they can do whatever they want with it. You might not like it, but that doesn't mean they messed up...it just means they didn't do what you wanted them to do.
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You're kidding, right? Of course there's a way to properly run product launches and Apple is the model for it. They started that whole format of how companies now launch their major tech products. In some large room, inviting major media and tech bloggers, on a stage, with "cool" slides and demo's of what their product is capable of. Followed by snappy and eye catching ad's/marketing campaign and even an "accidental/unauthorized release of said tech" if they really want to drum up publicity.
You don't do what Google/Samsung has done. Talk about this great and awesome phone with the cutting edge OS with a cool name for a month or so. Leak enough details over the summer to get your base interested, then change the name, say nothing about the price or release date, and then expect to make a big impact on the market.
Lastly, they haven't done what ANYBODY has wanted so far with this launch. So you can't single out one person and say it's what he didn't want. I'd bet just about anything that no one who was (or is still) interested in this phone wanted what we've gotten from Google/Samsung and Verizon so far. I didn't sign up on that stupid launch page for Google to tease me with pictures or tell me 24hrs before the phone drops that it's actually coming out.
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http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.
that was a fantastic article Dustin put together
Simply brilliant. The article summed up what will undoubtedly become known as the Great GNex Clusterf--k. As pukemon suggested in another thread, the hype is losing steam and potential customers are beginning to look elsewhere. Way to go, Google/Samsung/Verizon!
seems everyone here is forgetting that google will never market the Nexus like the iphone. This phone is for "US". Its not the most anticipated device of the yr, come on. Nexus One, Nexus S, little promotion. They not even trying to compete with the iphone. Its a Tech geek phone. Nobody in the real world knows about it
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http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.
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too little too late indeed
SGS2 took all the spotlight this year
So a few weeks back i decided i was going to buy the latest greatest phone, which i have never done before. I did a little research and decided i would get the galaxy nexus when it came out, and to my surprise in just a couple of months lucky me!
I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.
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too little too late indeed
SGS2 took all the spotlight this year
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And as soon as the new year comes in we'll all be anticipating the SGS3.
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So a few weeks back i decided i was going to buy the latest greatest phone, which i have never done before. I did a little research and decided i would get the galaxy nexus when it came out, and to my surprise in just a couple of months lucky me!
I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.
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I think the frustration. Is mostly due to the lack of info not the actual release
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Looking on the bright side, more devices announced with "better" specs mean the price for Nexus can't be too high, or people would turn away from it and buy phones with the same high price but "better" specs. Google/Samsung will reduce the price to make it competitive with recently announced phones.
I feel the same way. Google dropped the ball. I hope they go with HTC for the next Nexus
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what the **** is the deal with the google/samsung/"verizon??"
its already been anounced that it wont be a verizon exclusive
The Nexus meant to be a guideline for where Google wants the direction of Android to go on phones and a baseline for developers to target. If Google tried to make it into the pinnacle of Android they would likely upset all their OEMs. Google doesn’t want to compete with the companies which are distributing their platform.
Neither Google nor Samsung really wants the Nexus to be a big seller, they just want it as a marketing tool. As for Verizon…who cares?
I agree. It's the details that are driving me nuts! I returned my GS2 before my 30 days were up, and I really liked the phone. I went back to using my Nexus One, and boy does it suck to go so far back. I've almost thrown it twice! I've always enjoyed the Nexus line due to pure android and quick updates.
I scour the internet multiple times every day for the past few weeks. I just want to know the bloody launch date for the US, where I can buy it, and whether or not the US will get the HSPA+ version right away? Is that so much to ask for?
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I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.
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if you are into games, you should seriously reconsider
most games out there are develop for the Exynos (Hummingbird) CPU
if you go for this phone, your choices of good games will be greatly chopped in 50% or more
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if you are into games, you should seriously reconsider
most games out there are develop for the Exynos (Hummingbird) CPU
if you go for this phone, your choices of good games will be greatly chopped in 50% or more
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If he's that into games, he probably wants something with a keyboard/mouse or a controller
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http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.
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Great article. Now people have no idea about when the phone will be released and how much it will be. We are even not sure about if we can get a unlocked version when the phone is launched. Google has the worst marketing team IMO, they failed chrome book now they are trying to fail nexus again.
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If Google tried to make it into the pinnacle of Android they would likely upset all their OEMs.
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The Nexus One did exactly that. It was for it's time the pinnacle and it did upset OEMs. Even so, the Android world is better for it.
I personally think that they should have released a spec monster and "encouraged" OEMs to try to exceed it.
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Great article. Now people have no idea about when the phone will be released and how much it will be. We are even not sure about if we can get a unlocked version when the phone is launched. Google has the worst marketing team IMO, they failed chrome book now they are trying to fail nexus again.
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well at least with any Nexus phone you are Guaranteed 100% Unlocked, and easy Root via stock Bootloader
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well at least with any Nexus phone you are Guaranteed 100% Unlocked, and easy Root via stock Bootloader
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yes, that is the point I am trying to make. A nexus is always unlocked, with the most updated Android system But a company like Google should not have such a poor marketing strategy: The HK event grabs everyone's eyeballs, but no body has any idea about the release date for the GSM version in US at all. Verizon may get it before or after TG; the launch of UK GN may be delayed; Verizon may have an exclusion period, etc. There are too many rumors because Google itself have no idea about its own product.
However, I will get a GN, I really want the ICS
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Looking on the bright side, more devices announced with "better" specs mean the price for Nexus can't be too high, or people would turn away from it and buy phones with the same high price but "better" specs. Google/Samsung will reduce the price to make it competitive with recently announced phones.
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I'm suffering because my wife's N1 died and she's eyeing mine. She doesn't want "huge" screen and was looking for a used N1 so I found one for her...mine as soon as I can get a new phone. So, I'm in a bind.
I've put a line in the sand. December 1st I'm buying an SGS2 or whatever else non-Moto is top of the line at the time.
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I agree. It's the details that are driving me nuts! I returned my GS2 before my 30 days were up, and I really liked the phone. I went back to using my Nexus One, and boy does it suck to go so far back. I've almost thrown it twice! I've always enjoyed the Nexus line due to pure android and quick updates.
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I think that most of the people interested in the Galaxy Nexus could care less about the pure android experience. Don't we all root/ROM our phones? I rooted my N1 less than 24hrs after buying it and haven't looked back.
Since the SGS2 is already rooted and ROM'd, I don't care at all about the actual OS. ICS will be coming to the SGS2, question is will it come via ROM kitchen or OTA update. Either way, I'd be happy. Of course I'd be happier with the GN, but at this point I'm so frustrated with the lack of information that I'm buying whatever is available with the best hardware on December 1st.
I am starting to believe Verizon is pushing the date back to push more RAZR's and Rezounds. Some have said 11-21 and now this http://androidcommunity.com/latest-...ch-date-pushed-back-to-december-8th-20111118/ . Fun fun fun. Could be a legit photo or not, any thoughts team?
I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.
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I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.
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Makes me wonder why do they even bother to pick the phone up? I mean I know Verizon wants to bloat the crud out of all their phones, lock booloaders up. There hasn't been much advertising for the Nexus either compared to say the Bionic and RAZR. Another main concern for them is probably the tethering issue for starters. That and they probably wont make as much money since they cant push their crapware market on the Nexus.
Or, you know, maybe Verizon is testing the device, making Google fix any bugs before it gets deployed, and thus don't know the exact date it'll be ready because new bugs may crop up.
Read some of the other threads here about the initial bugs people are experiencing. I'm actually kind of glad that Verizon is taking their time (assuming, of course, that they are really doing due diligence and not just trying to sell more RAZRs).
Also, the bugs being reported here seems to confirm this source: http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...thread-12-8-release-date-648.html#post3478434
This source claims that Verizon was still testing the device and had bugs crop up, but they weren't serious enough to postpone the launch. Well, maybe it turned out to be more serious than they thought and they had to postpone it. Maybe it was the very same volume control bug being reported here...
I have also read reports that the phone is done, ready, and capable of being sold, BUT, VZW is holding off due the poor sales of the Razr & Rezound which of course why would they suck. Crippled, bloated, and forced to wait 9+ months post next OS or bug fix update no thanks.
While I am not loving my iP4S as much as I thought I would (can't wait to sell it and get a G-Nex ASAP) at least the OS updates come right out from Apple with NO CARRIER DELAY. This is the reason I want a Nexus device so I can do more and get more out of it especially with CM9 coming. Which is the way I will likely rely on updates and fixes and NOT Google/Verizon/Samsung.
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I am starting to believe Verizon is pushing the date back to push more RAZR's and Rezounds. Some have said 11-21 and now this http://androidcommunity.com/latest-...ch-date-pushed-back-to-december-8th-20111118/ . Fun fun fun. Could be a legit photo or not, any thoughts team?
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I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.
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Its a combination of both these things.
Google was either stupid or clueless. Knowing those two phones were coming then giving VZ exclusivity borders on the retarded.
When you see the success off the SGS2 its dumbfounding that Samsung would go along with there device being limited to a carrier with no interest in truly flags hipping there device.
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looking at the handful of these that are out in action, and all the issues, I would doubt even the 8th for Verizon. I mean, they are not going to put a product out there if the end result is people just returning them. Especially in the US where VZ is the only drinking fountain for the Nexus.
Someone who is not in anticipation of the Nexus, wandering in to VZ, is going to see the face unlock and the dazzling screen, and say "cool, I want it!" Then when they wonder why there are issues with video and Flash, that they are used to, and if the power consumption of LTE mirrors that of the smaller battery non-LTE, they will want thier money back.
No one really knows what the extent of the issues are because there are just not that many of these phones in service yet. If and when VZ starts selling the Nexus, then you will see what the extent of the issues are, unless they take care of them prior to putting them out for sale.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
if it doesnt launch friday ill be buying something else, i'm getting sick of using my cracked thunderbolt and even more sick of waiting
I don't think they ever officially stated a day. I've thought for a while that they would release it with some clause that said no worry free guarantee exchanges for this device since a lot of people are planning on returning their razr or rezound too.. we'll see.
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I called Verizon yesterday, the 1800#, and they confirmed the 9th, so this has to be a change if true
I can't wait until this thing is released, not because I want to get it but so these threads will end.
Wait for it or buy online like most people did here
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
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Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
this is what i know verizon has a **** load of iphone and razrs! wouldn't you try and get the most out of your inventory? i wouldn't want to price cut just to sell if i didn't have to, or at least prolong a long as possible
Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
I'm pissed!!! I'm shipping out my G2x Friday and thus wont have a phone until they get off their ass.
The phones are sitting in their stores. Its a little too late.
Verizon usually releases phones on Fridays? So of it misses this Friday, it won't be available until next Friday?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
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Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
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Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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I'll agree that the pricing is outrageous, but until someone with an equal or better network (see: competition) comes along, Verizon will be the status quo as far as high quality networks are concerned.
I don't think the latest delay has anything to do with the Nexus as much as it has to do with the overall network from a QoS standpoint. As a network technician myself, I can tell you that the issues being described with LTE SIM Card Authentication warrant a "freeze" until the problem is rectified. Why introduce a large amount of new devices onto the network without resolving the problem first?
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010
Funny I went looking for release dates. Mondays and Thursdays seem pretty common for Verizon. Also funny is the original 11/21 release date (I'm sure it was even earlier then that).
You know I've been on both sides. Push the release date until it's ready and people complain. Release the phone before its ready and people complain. Coming from a LG G2x, I can honestly say releasing the phone before it was ready was good for me but not for the population as a whole. The negative feedback it received as a "faulty device" forever scarred its name.
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Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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Motorola isn't exactly known for making phones that aren't riddled with bugs.....
This sounds more like something with Verizon's LTE network and not something to do specifically with the phones themselves.
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thanks!
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termleech said:
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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Sigh... its pointless waiting for this phone.
I have two bones to pick, one with MS, and one with Carriers:
First, MS promised small intermittent updates, and major updates at least once a year. For the most part they have delivered, in theory. We saw Mango around October of last year. Woohoo, it was great, started to fill the gap, but still left us wanting. We all eagerly anticipated what MS had up its sleeve next.
The same month they release a fitly update, 7.10.7740.16, that didn't really do much of anything, low and behold, ATT never rolled that one out....go figure....
There was a massive keyboard disappearing bug (which I never experienced thank god), that it took them 3 months to fix with 7.10.8107.79. Luckily this fixed my gmail sync issue, so that was nice. LTE support is a bonus, if you happen to be in one of the few areas ATT has such a service, no luck for me though. Again, ATT didn't bother with this one, so I had to manually push it.
We start finally hearing some details about Tango in March. Come to find out, its really just an MS push into emerging markets, and really won't add anything new except for some additional SMS capabilities. This update starts to roll out in June. If it were up to ATT, i would still be running 7720, a full three versions, and 9 months old. Not with the help of XDA though....
Its not that I really need the updates, again, they don't really do anything, the change log list is either incredibly omissive or simply childish in length. its the principle. You promised me updates, I want them dammit! And I want them now! Preferably with some actual updates....that is....How about MS and Nokia get together and work towards fixing this shoddy camera quality you shipped the Lumia with??? People might actually appreciate that work....
Now to WP8. MS totally screws us with this, as all we are ending up getting is an ugly home screen update....Thanks a lot, my 3 month old Lumia salutes you, as does its infantile ATT 2 year contract. But you stuck with your promise, a major update once a year. Looks like we will be seeing Apollo around when Mango was shipped last year. Guess we can't argue with that logic...
Could be worse I suppose. I could have an Android device with a 9 month and standing promise to update to ICS.....o that's right....that's exactly what I have with ATT.....bah humbug....except ATT hasn't actually promised any updates at all, and customers will probably never see Tango. At least we can look on the bright side, the updates don't actually do anything anyway, so no harm no foul, right?
Anyway, in a total of the 9 months since MS officially released Mango, we have gotten 3 quasi-widely pushed updates, so long as you are not an ATT customer that is (ok MS seems to be doing what they promised), however, in said time, the only real additions were two bug fixes and some SMS bull. 9 months in the making.....really??? Granted they must be spending a lot of resources on WP8, and its great that they are developing the platform and pushing it further, but how does that help me???? Absolutely in no way shape or form.
For comparison (and simply that) ICS was released right along with Mango, and they have rolled out three updates (unlike MS these actually did things and improved the OS substantially), and are now on a major refresh after 9 months, Jelly Bean. My comparison ends there.....
And what about the Carriers??? I took me a total of 10 minutes a piece to deliver myself each of the updates we have gotten our hands on here. WTF are the carriers doing with my money??? Surely not expanding its LTE network, and surely not building new towers so I can actually get a bar or two at work....god forbid...
Androids Carrier/OEM problem is probably even worse than what I have seen from ATT and MS, and Apples updates seems to break more than they fix, but I really feel like MS has kicked us to the curb not only with promised updates, but also with the WP8 announcement.
/end rant
I will stick with MS, and will probably use my wife's upgrade to deliver me a WP8 phone late this year, simply because there is no better options. What OEMs do to Android should be a crime, and I cant bring myself to support the tyrant that is Apple, nor jump on its fanboy bandwagon. WP is truly a superior product, even if it still lacks a few bells and whistles. Anyone who actually cares about their experience cannot deny that.
But seriously MS, you are letting us down. Its because of people like me that this thing is still afloat, and you are treating me like a red headed step child. Get with it already!
If you are still with me, thanks for reading, hope to see any thoughtful comments offered.
emjlr3 said:
There was a massive keyboard disappearing bug (which I never experienced thank god), that it took them 3 months to fix with 7.10.8107.79.
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Lucky you.
First gen here. I experience that bug every day and MSFT/AT&T still haven't pushed the update for it.
Still on 7720.
karan1203 said:
Lucky you.
First gen here. I experience that bug every day and MSFT/AT&T still haven't pushed the update for it.
Still on 7720.
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More like AT&T rather than MS, I've had 8107 on my TMOUS HD7 since like February.
At&t is supposedly starting to roll out Tango on some of their Windows Phones.
As far as you just getting your Lumia goes, I wish Nokia and/or Microsoft would implement some trade-up program. That way everybody (users and developers) can get onto 8 almost right away while eliminating the complaining and uncertainty that now exists.
I thought M/$ said carriers could not skip more than 1 update....
Guess AT&T did not get or agree with that memo...
The way I see it blame falls on the AT&T death star.
More like AT&T rather than MS, I've had 8107 on my TMOUS HD7 since like February.
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yes ATT has been horrible, but what can one do that really matters? Verizon I have heard hasn't been much better - they are used to A. Apple pushing its own updates, and letting them have their way, and B. not giving a **** about Android updates, because it takes OEMS 9 months to "refresh" their skins.
That way everybody (users and developers) can get onto 8 almost right away while eliminating the complaining and uncertainty that now exists.
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Nokia lost and arm and a leg giving away the Lumia for $100, and then for free, not so sure they could survive another such Apocalypse only a few months later.
I thought M/$ said carriers could not skip more than 1 update....
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if that is the case, there was probably verbiage in there delineating the option to only major rehashes - but seriously, the Carriers have nothing to do, just push it?!?!?!
emjlr3 said:
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Do you have to use the word "end" if you're already using a forward slash to close the "rant" tag? Just wondering
no clue, I am a biochemist, not a computer programmer
The AT&T death star has already gotten the $$ from the sale of the phones. Updates do not create income so it is low on the radar. Besides death stars only want to deal with planets.
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well they didn't make **** off my phone sale, now aside from that stupid contract price I pay every month....
Been waiting patiently for a while now
Its getting to be a bit of a farce!
One of the main reasons I got my previous Pixels was that you received the updates first, like clockwork.
The P6P has some major issues, FPS!!, screen going blank, Reception etc. Yet we get it after all the other Pixels!?
And to top it off if you live in the "Google blind spot", ie not USA, you havent even got the FPS fix to make it usable!
So, we get to the delayed date and, SURPRISE! No update again.
Is something going on that we dont know about, feel like a Beta tester and I paid them nearly £1000 to do it!!!!
I don't have any issues with my pixel 6 pro but I'm hoping to get the update today and see if there are any improvements
Nothing yet, might be in around 2-3 hours from now
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Its getting to be a bit of a farce!
One of the main reasons I got my previous Pixels was that you received the updates first, like clockwork.
The P6P has some major issues, FPS!!, screen going blank, Reception etc. Yet we get it after all the other Pixels!?
And to top it off if you live in the "Google blind spot", ie not USA, you havent even got the FPS fix to make it usable!
So, we get to the delayed date and, SURPRISE! No update again.
Is something going on that we dont know about, feel like a Beta tester and I paid them nearly £1000 to do it!!!!
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World first problem... Chill out.
Update is coming today December 13th as per every articles.
If you can't stand the phone, sell it and move on to Samsung or Isheep bangwagon. But be advise they have there share of problems too...
therock3181 said:
World first problem... Chill out.
Update is coming today December 13th as per every articles.
If you can't stand the phone, sell it and move on to Samsung or Isheep bangwagon. But be advise they have there share of problems too...
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Please don't tell me to chill out.
If I want to comment on my frustrations about having a "premium" device which is sold with faults and has a promise of updates which are not upheld, then I shall.
If you wish to spend your money and follow what Google says like a "sheep" without voicing your dissatisfaction, then that too is your right.
To paraphrase a brilliant quote "All that is needed for poor service to continue to happen is for good customers to do nothing", I have raised my concerns with Google and would encourage others to raise your voice too.
marmin said:
Please don't tell me to chill out.
If I want to comment on my frustrations about having a "premium" device which is sold with faults and has a promise of updates which are not upheld, then I shall.
If you wish to spend your money and follow what Google says like a "sheep" without voicing your dissatisfaction, then that too is your right.
To paraphrase a brilliant quote "All that is needed for poor service to continue to happen is for good customers to do nothing", I have raised my concerns with Google and would encourage others to raise your voice too.
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Well said. People coming on here trying to tell others what they can or cannot say p's me off.
Returned mine cause the return window expired before today, the 13th. I don't think one update can magically fix the phone. I hope it does though. I think it'll take time though, months.
In the meantime I'm looking forward to the next gen phones that are only a couple months away. This next gen will be a true leap in next gen terms. Pixel left me cold
Probably not until 1pm EST. Relax.
It will probably come 1000 pacific time (Googles HQ time, it the morning) - that equals 1900 Berlin time (Europe).
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Please don't tell me to chill out.
If I want to comment on my frustrations about having a "premium" device which is sold with faults and has a promise of updates which are not upheld, then I shall.
If you wish to spend your money and follow what Google says like a "sheep" without voicing your dissatisfaction, then that too is your right.
To paraphrase a brilliant quote "All that is needed for poor service to continue to happen is for good customers to do nothing", I have raised my concerns with Google and would encourage others to raise your voice too.
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You are right to voice criticism. Googles behaviour is unacceptable, since they let their new flagship users wait beyond the usual update time without any explanation given. We should have a clear window to expect - not "in a week" - that's a joke. Google is the biggest company in the world, anyone here seriously believe they don't have fixed, internal deadlines? They should simply make a counter: Here, that's when we will start pushing the update.
Should be out around 1pm est.
Morgrain said:
You are right to voice criticism. Googles behaviour is unacceptable, since they let their new flagship users wait beyond the usual update time without any explanation given. We should have a clear window to expect - not "in a week" - that's a joke. Google is the biggest company in the world, anyone here seriously believe they don't have fixed, internal deadlines? They should simply make a counter: Here, that's when we will start pushing the update.
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They did exactly that, they said it would be released today (13th). As today is not over (and they don't usually release updates until in the PST time zone ) and was never likely to be AM for the CET time zone.
There will be a lot more fixes in the release for the Pixel 6 than applied to the older models, they most likely wanted to test out the fixes that applied to them in the real world and also have some more time to test the Pixel 6 specific fixes. Better to get it right than rush out bad updates which make things worse in the eyes of those who have issues.
I can understand frustration if you are being seriously hampered by an issue (most people aren't, with minor irritations), but at least give it until the window they said has closed.
lawtq said:
Well said. People coming on here trying to tell others what they can or cannot say p's me off.
Returned mine cause the return window expired before today, the 13th. I don't think one update can magically fix the phone. I hope it does though. I think it'll take time though, months.
In the meantime I'm looking forward to the next gen phones that are only a couple months away. This next gen will be a true leap in next gen terms. Pixel left me cold
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Where did I wrote he can or cannot say ? Please tell me
Actually don't, because I found nothing.....
marmin said:
Its getting to be a bit of a farce!
One of the main reasons I got my previous Pixels was that you received the updates first, like clockwork.
The P6P has some major issues, FPS!!, screen going blank, Reception etc. Yet we get it after all the other Pixels!?
And to top it off if you live in the "Google blind spot", ie not USA, you havent even got the FPS fix to make it usable!
So, we get to the delayed date and, SURPRISE! No update again.
Is something going on that we dont know about, feel like a Beta tester and I paid them nearly £1000 to do it!!
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Haven't had a single issue with my P6P. You you actually think you're a beta tester you should have had the first android phone the T-Mobile G1, we were actual beta testers. If you don't like the phone simply return it!
ggrant3876 said:
Haven't had a single issue with my P6P. You you actually think you're a beta tester you should have had the first android phone the T-Mobile G1, we were actual beta testers.
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I'm very pleased for you. Pointing out that you are one of the lucky ones hardly helps those of us with issues, just kind of rubs peoples noses in it. Nope, I said I "feel" like a beta tester, big difference. With the G1 it was a first of a kind, early adopters of new tech/OS often end up with fixes after launch.
OTAs/Factory images usually drop around 10 am PST. You still have 2 hours to go!
ggrant3876 said:
Haven't had a single issue with my P6P. You you actually think you're a beta tester you should have had the first android phone the T-Mobile G1, we were actual beta testers. If you don't like the phone simply return it!
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Same, ironically. I've realized with every release there's those who have issues and those who don't. Luckily we know Google's gonna take care of it
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For clarification, what do you mean by "smells like curry"?
I agree at least with the stance that we should all just patiently await the update. It's coming and should bring good things to our toys. There's people in this world who would love to have this phone so those feeling impatient, just crack on with your day and no dount in an hour or two we'll all be flashing away (cue to the next lot of complaints?!)
marmin said:
that everyone has a right to complain if something they paid for isn't functioning correctly!
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This is all that matters. Back in the days - before patches - products had to function at launch, since there was no way to fix anything. Once it was in the hands of your customer, there was no choice - either the product worked without issue and you got good press and recommendation, or your product was buggy and people stopped buying it.
Nowadays, companies just don't give a s*it - they release buggy products and there are customers that have the audacity to even support that kind of behavior. Instead of working together in order to get companies to fix their sh*t BEFORE launch, people divide themselves amongst "patience" or "you can't expect them to fix stuff in time" - aha. Well, we can. The nanosecond we buy a thousanddollar product. We are not talking about a 2 dollar china toy, we are talking about a state of the art, high-end flagship - that's simply supposed to work without issue. And if major issues arise, criticism is of paramount importance.
Many bugs we face today have been known since Android 12 has launched it's first beta - 18 May 2021 - that's roughly 7 months time for Google to fix stuff. They didn't.
And here we are not even talking about Pixel 6 specific bugs, simply Android ones.
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Same, ironically. I've realized with every release there's those who have issues and those who don't. Luckily we know Google's gonna take care of it
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I actually wonder how many problems there really are that are really bugs or just user error. When the Note 20 Ultra first came out there were quite a few people having issues with it here on XDA but what it boiled down to in the end was that they were transferring data from another phone and most weren't even a Samsung phone. Also if it were an Android 12 issue we would all have it not just a select few!