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E4gt future proof

So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december), and I want to be sure this thing will stay satisfying for two years.
Primarily, I want to avoid issues the epic 4g has: limited (although what there is is extremely dedicated) dev support and lack of cm/miui that keeps the phone stuck at outdated os iterations (which is mostly sammy's fault anyway).
What im asking is, is this phone a dev darling and do they promise to love it for ever, even after samsung abandons it in 8 months?
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There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"

which ROM makes Banana Pancakes?
Mine only makes Buttermilk.....

Premier program upgrade expires 12/31/12 you have a good year and two months to make a decision.

Trickee360 said:
So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december)
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Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.

When it comes to electronics, nothing is future proof!
The SGS2 is a great phone today and while it might not be the top of the line in a few months it will still be able to handle it's own.
There is one thing I am jealous of with the Galaxy Nexus, and that is the HD screen. If the SGS2 would have had an HD screen, it would be right up there with the GN. I do not count ICS because the SGS2 will eventually get it. If the GN only had a qhd screen I don't think I would care as much....Seems almost like qhd screens didn't stay around as the top dog for to long. Guess the lower end devices will be going qhd while top end goes 720p to compete.

The point is well taken that there's no such thing as a future-proofe phone. I should have qualified that I am asking if this phone appears likely to enjoy EVO or HD2-like developer love. I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
I was on the phone with Sprint for an hour and a half talking about my upgrade status and they repeatedly told me it would expire on Dec 31, 2011. I guess I'll call again and ask again. I don't know what to trust anymore. If I get another year I'll be extatic.
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The program itself ends 12/31/11 but you have until the end of next year to use your upgrade.

Just called Sprint to confirm my upgrade won't expire! Thanks so much for the heads-up, my XDA brothers XD
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I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.

sfhub said:
Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.
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I did not know that, i just checked and next September I have an upgrade available... cool.

worldwidepmp said:
I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.
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Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated

G1-8701 said:
Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN. We will get ICS whether it be official or not, so that will really even the playing field. So our phone is future proof until you start seeing quad core phones come out and well as Sprint LTE phones. But I would say you are good for at least the next year to year and half with the SGS2.
When the specs for the SGS3 get dropped, I am betting that will be a game changer and Samsungs flagship phone, not the Nexus.

buggerritt said:
There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"
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I hate you... Now I want Banana pancakes!

IMO, dual core SOCs and 1GB RAM are the major milestone for smartphones. Quad cores will improve benchmarks, but probably not much else. Cutting edge OS is what's important to me now, which the GN covers nicely
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN.
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Not quite. We don't have NFC or a barometer, either. The lack of NFC means we can't use Google Wallet or Beam... ever, and the barometer means slower GPS locks and we can't use any other aps that take advantage of it.
I don't quite understand why Sprint had Samsung remove the NFC chip... it's the only GS2 variant that doesn't have one, and aside from LTE, that's the newest feature everyone is jumping on lately.
This phone will have a lot of life in it, but it's not future proof.

The nexus has a cheap pentile display. Go with the epic touch you won't regret it. And it has a sa+ display!
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Trickee360 said:
I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
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I really enjoyed the support out there for my EVO 4G, and was a little disappointed at the lack of options out there right now for my shiney new E4GT (not complaining, stating a fact, back off flamers)
However, read through the forums for the other variations of the SGS2 and you can see it's out there for them. I just think Sprints baby is a little late to the party, but is going to get it's fair share of cake. Read through some of the Developer posts and there is news popping up fairly regularly about test builds of CM7 and MIUI...

I am getting closer and closer to getting this. I just know a week after I do the galaxy nexus will be announced for sprint.
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I'll be honest, this is my first android phone (epic touch 4g), but I have been tinkering with anything that draws power since I was a little guy ripping apart old stereo receivers and what not! Sure, something with some more bang is bound to come out in the next few months or so; but in my opinion, a device with the capabilities exhibited by this phone are not going to be overlooked anytime soon! Some people may dump the phone and grab whatever is better on the market at that time, but dev is not going to halt for this phone anytime soon as far as I can tell. Even before getting this phone I've done lots of research on android phones and spoken to friends that have owned such, and this is phone definitely marks a milestone in my opinion. Sure it has its bugs, I get LoS once a week or so; but despite its flaws (which will be resolved by the manufacturer or else!) it is a great phone and will serve any user well for YEARS! Hell, I had a Blackberry 8330 for a few years, wasn't anything special by any means at all but with some TLC and mods it was a great phone for as long as I had it. The ET4G should last a Looooooong time...
Edit: I also wanted to say, to those who were saying things about the Galaxy Nexus coming out for Sprint. Sure you may be able to the phone with Sprint in the very near future, but is it not quite similar to the ET4G? Really I guess it depends on preference and such. From what I've read and heard, though...the phones are not THAT much different so I guess whatever feel you like best is what you should get! Cheers!

[Q] Is it just me?

Or is it longer we have to wait and the less news that is released about the galaxy nexus the less desirable it becomes? How many high end phones have been announced and released since 'the announcement'? Google has got me looking at symbian and meego right now.
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pukemon said:
Or is it longer we have to wait and the less news that is released about the galaxy nexus the less desirable it becomes? How many high end phones have been announced and released since 'the announcement'? Google has got me looking at symbian and meego right now.
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I completely agree with you actually. I was 110% for the phone, but now I'm just looking for other phones. The wait is too long

Yeah, I really don't know if I want to continue waiting for the Galaxy Nexus or pick up the SGS II/Motorola Razr...

hiohokaybye said:
I completely agree with you actually. I was 110% for the phone, but now I'm just looking for other phones. The wait is too long
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you guys are big babies. i waited over 6 Months to get the TouchPro 2 way back when, just to be immensely dissapointed in the thing. i bet people who have been waiting for the US Spec SGSII's hated waiting ~6 months to get one as well. and i bet they were happy with the thing.
nothing better (maybe the Note for some) has been actually announced, leaked, maybe. but an actual announcement with a shipment date? haven't heard anything.

It's ok for waiting
I have Nexus S and some other things to enjoy
*looking into my ... ssssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhssssss ...*

I am wanting to get away from this HTC Trophy. This waiting game irks me a damn lot. I still wouldn't want something else, because I don't want to be trapped in the OEM update game.

pukemon said:
Or is it longer we have to wait and the less news that is released about the galaxy nexus the less desirable it becomes? How many high end phones have been announced and released since 'the announcement'? Google has got me looking at symbian and meego right now.
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the day I buy a phone with symbian again i want you to cut off my index fingers.

Not being babies about this. Voicing our opinions and resentment. I think some of us would be less miserable if it was released already and unhappy with how it turned out. Its actually more about the software/os than the hardware/phone for me. I think google borked this time around. Hard.
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crazy talk said:
nothing better (maybe the Note for some) has been actually announced, leaked, maybe. but an actual announcement with a shipment date? haven't heard anything.
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Exactly, the new rumored HTC Edge blows the GN away in specs. But that's a Q1/Q2 rumored release. Besides, the GN will work great with ICS, no overlay necessary (I'm coming from an HTC and it became painfully obvious that only sense ROMS are 100%.)
Point is, the GN will get outspecced by non Google phones. You gotta decide if you want dev support or better specs.

pukemon said:
Or is it longer we have to wait and the less news that is released about the galaxy nexus the less desirable it becomes? How many high end phones have been announced and released since 'the announcement'? Google has got me looking at symbian and meego right now.
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at least 5+ new phones has been released since
NG slowly fading into the background...

Which statment is more true guys? Is google the next nokia but worse because theyre pushing ~1 phone a year ooooooorr is google showing everybody precisely how to botch the launch of a highly desirable phone?
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I believe in the case there are too many cooks in the kitchen. You have Google on the OS side trying to get ICS ready for the public. Then you have the coordination with a completely separate company, Samsung, who has developed the hardware for their new "flagship" phone. Then you factor in a company like Verison and it becomes a real mess. Now I am not trying to excuse them, I do believe that both Google and Samsung management really missed a trick here and adoption of this phone will now be much slower.
It is also difficult compare Google launching the Nexus to Apple and the iPhone. First, there are mutliple Android handsets launched through out each year versus a single iPhone. And although Android as an OS has a larger footprint worldwide than iOS, it isn't by much and Apple is keeping pace, for now, with a single device. This gives Apple the ability to dictate to carriers how their releases will go, and carriers have to take it. Not so much the case with a single Android device. Samsung and their SGS line could come close in the future given the SGSII sales numbers.
So take it as it is. An uncoordinated launch effort that will result in lesser sales of this device. I for one recently picked up and SGSII and I am loving this device. I was even considering passing on the Galaxy Nexus until I had the chance to play with one over the weekend. The phone, for me, is spectacular.

Can someone tell me when samsung is rumored their next phone. Like an actuall good phone. Cuz I only get samsung phones and they usually only release a couple good phone for each carrier a year. I really dont care about the proxessor or anything so should I get the nexus or the next samsung phone.
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Mylenthes said:
Can someone tell me when samsung is rumored their next phone. Like an actuall good phone. Cuz I only get samsung phones and they usually only release a couple good phone for each carrier a year. I really dont care about the proxessor or anything so should I get the nexus or the next samsung phone.
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The nexus or be patient and keep your ear to the ground through february or so. Should be quite a few more announcements, ics included and newer hardware/generation releases. Im pretty much set on the nexus because of the development community for it. But google sure is making it harder and harder to wait for vaporware until it is officially released.
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I would say the next great phone by Samsung will be the SGS3. Not idea when it will be launched but perhaps we will get some news at CES.
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But google sure is making it harder and harder to wait for vaporware until it is officially released.
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I wouldn't call it Vaporware as it does exist. I played with it over the weekend. Actually a number of Google employees, that's how I got to play with it, have had it for a month or so now and are installing nightly builds on it.

I know i t exists but it is vapor until it is available to the masses. Thus, vaporware.
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I've used Nexus One since January 2010. I love it also because it is not as popular as an iPhone or a SGSI/II. When people see my N1 multicolor led notification call me: "which kind of phone is yours?", "It's a Google developer phone."
Won't be Samsung Galaxy Nexus popular because its launch is very bad (delay, confusion, no spot, ...)? I will be happy because I will be one of the few people to own an official Google developer phone.

This is nothing more than slush! Anyone that actually wants the Galaxy Nexus is going to get it regardless of when it finally hits the market. Google didn’t give a launch date, end of story…meanwhile I’ll keep playing with my SGII and when the Nexus is out I’ll get mine.

Agreed. The wow/newness factory has worn off and I'm just frustrated. Too many alternatives to pick from... too much vague misinformation floating around.

Couldn't agree more with the OP. I just would have gone and bought it within minutes of the announcement if given the option... and here I am now, lurking on Galaxy Note forums for the past few days and now drooling over the rumored HTC Edge (one bada** phone!!).
Heck, I'm even contemplating sticking to my HD2 with Hyperdroid CM7 'coz I just can't find one justifiable fault with the current setup. Bottom line, you are not alone bud
[Edit: Btw, I did purchase two SGS2 in the months gone by and returned them due to inexplicable blue tint at the slightest angle and the fact that the build quality just felt cheap compared to my HD2. Also purchased and sold a Sensation due to poor battery life and a screen that got completely washed when viewed at even slight angles, with no visible difference in resolution from the HD2.
Not too sure that history won't repeat itself and I'll end up being underwhelmed by these devices! Seems unlikely though if I went with the Nexus or the Note. Will wait if the Edge is actually announced with a minimum 1750mAh battery.]

The Nexus brand should come to an end...

I really think Google needs to do a HUGE investment into the Development and QA department for Android. Android is huge and requires more attention then they are giving it. Google really needs to get more hands on Android and better testing so less buggy software gets out of the gate.
I have owned all of the Nexus phones and they are always pretty buggy until a few updates later.
I currently have to deal with slow screen rotation, multi-touch issues, laggy landscape keyboard response and crashes, SMS text bugs, Wifi bugs to name a few. How in the hell did the slow screen rotation and laggy landscape response go unnoticed is beyond me. I noticed it the first day i got the phone.
The NEXUS brand should come to an end, its essentially just like buying an iphone…….you pay extra for it, and its no better than anything else out there, or less than anything else out there.
The problem is Nexus is no longer a developer phone. Its now a brand. I knew i was not getting this nexus because sammy had there hands on it.

are you on 4.0.1?, 4.0.2? 4.0.3?
is your phone rooted?
are you running the GSM version or the CDMA version of the galaxy nexus?
is it stock android O.S.?

I don't have any of those issues on mine....

I'm running stock 4.0.2, getting software updates firectly from Google not samsung.
Everyone says the only reason you should buy Nexus phones is because they are so much better than other manufacturers phones. I'm not talking about rooting and such, because you can do that too with other phones and it would be the same.
It’s not just about timely updates. Even the 4.0.3 source code has bugs. This means that all these devices based off 4.0.3 can (and might) have the bugs as well. Then, you have to wait for Google to update the source and maybe just maybe your manufacturer of choice will update your phone before moving onto something else.

Well don't buy a Nexus device again. Then you don't have to worry about those problems, and the people who love the Nexus phone can continue to love it whilst you love your Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus thing that you buy.
Thats the good thing about Android, you have choice. Your opinion doesn't mean anything, Google aren't going to do anything about it. Find a phone that you like and use it.
Also, have you ever used another Android phone other then the Nexus? Carrier bloat and skins make me shudder.

I disagree with the paying extra. It's essentially like buying any other phone whereas, the iPhone would be $100-$300 more than other phones depending on the sku. I have no complaints with my Nexus but I'm not trying to argue with your dissatisfaction or defend the brand, I just don't see the paying extra part which obviously varies from country to country.
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mines never been laggy works really great

Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.

retskrad said:
I'm running stock 4.0.2, getting software updates firectly from Google not samsung.
Everyone says the only reason you should buy Nexus phones is because they are so much better than other manufacturers phones. I'm not talking about rooting and such, because you can do that too with other phones and it would be the same.
It’s not just about timely updates. Even the 4.0.3 source code has bugs. This means that all these devices based off 4.0.3 can (and might) have the bugs as well. Then, you have to wait for Google to update the source and maybe just maybe your manufacturer of choice will update your phone before moving onto something else.
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Rooting is one thing, but we like the nexus because of its bootloader and lack of bloat. Let's face it, iphone is easy mode, android(nexus) is expert mode.
Easy mode is... well.. easy. It is easy to master but gets stale incredibly fast and is lacking in features. Expert mode you have to read a couple forums, do a little tweaking, but in the end you get a pro longed satisfying experience that is rich in features and really let's you become... a superuser.
Ps rotation delay is a feature, just tap the screen for it to rotate faster.
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MistaBishi said:
Well don't buy a Nexus device again. Then you don't have to worry about those problems, and the people who love the Nexus phone can continue to love it whilst you love your Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus thing that you buy.
Thats the good thing about Android, you have choice. Your opinion doesn't mean anything, Google aren't going to do anything about it. Find a phone that you like and use it.
Also, have you ever used another Android phone other then the Nexus? Carrier bloat and skins make me shudder.
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I wanna try out the Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus.

Just for a little input, the rotation "Lag" that you talk about is supposed to be there. People were complaining that there phone would rotate to easily so they made lag so that just tilting your phone for a second wouldn't rotate it you had to actually want to rotate it. Takes an extra second, if that.
Also, ICS was released, you knew that when you bought the phone, you expect a completely clean product the second it comes out? Look at Apple with there battery bug, no OS comes out without it's fare share of bugs, Android is no different.
Also also, why cancel an entire line of phones because you have one mad customer? You don't.
Finally, Google picks a different handset maker every year to make their "Nexus" phone, just because "sammy" made it doesn't take away from the fact that it's a Nexus. Go buy a Razr with Motoblur and enjoy having a "Bug free enviroment" on an OS that is over a year old.

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Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.
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OK fair enough but its pretty much an unspoken rule that you have to flash the **** out of a nexus phone. Unlocked bootloader and all that. Aosp etc.
Not being smart but you don't buy a formula one car to bring the kids to school.

retskrad said:
Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.
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We considered that, and nobody cares. Thats the way the phone is, stop complaining about it and do something about it. We aren't you brain, do some thinking for yourself.
Root your phone if you want to fix the issues, or wait for Google to issue an update.

Nexus phones have historically been far cheaper than average. N1 and nexus s both sold for $529 from day 1. Only the Gnex broke this tradition.
Typical phone launches higher than $600.

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I wanna try out the Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus.
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Na man, it's terrible. It's running this MotoTouchSenseWizBlur software. It's the worst skin out of the lot!

lol what kind of topic is this? nexus brand should to an end pfff
sorry to all hear you have all those bugs, im glad AOKP is smoother than ever on my nex

For reference, my last phone was a Palm Centro. Lasted 5+ years, bugs and all. I also work in the computer hardware industry, so while I am new to the current smartphone format and OS, I am versed in technology.
If you wanted something that was already polished out of the box, that's where the other Android and iPhone comes in. Works well out of the box depending on the model. If you want a 'pure' Android experience, the G. Nexus is the appealing one. I think in this case 'pure' is a bad word choice, as it denotes only good. However, it is both good and bad. In the 3 months I've owned the phone. I've def. thought to myself "****! I've got to fix this again!" AND "holy crap! this is way cooler than iOS!" It sucks that you have to extensively play with the phone, but once you do, the opportunities are much more appealing.
TL; DR: Don't buy something like a Nexus if you don't want to transform it to it's full potential.

Why are people still on stock on the Nexus....its a NEXUS!!
ITS A DEV PHONE!!!
you are SUPPOSED to hack it!!!
don't complain if stock doesn't have all that you want..
btw...i was on stock for 2 days...no bugs.

Ived owned two nexus phones and theyve been the best phones I have ever owned. Sometimes they do lack the performance other Androids have but the support/development for this phone is the best IMO.

Can we stop making these useless threads about how "Google is ignoring us", cause I can guarantee you they are probably working their asses off trying to get the next update to us before I/O.

Wait for new nexus or get SIII now?

My contract is up and my upgrade is now in full effect. I currently have the nexus s 4G and the nexus tablet so needless to say i am a fan of the nexus line. That being said my contract is up and i am really looking at getting the SIII. Wanted to get feedback from this forum on whether or not they still love their phone after being out for several months yet or do you think it is worth waiting (for who nows how long, probably end of this year) for google to release the new nexus phone? what do you like about the SIII, what do you not like? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance.

Buy mine for a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade and keep your upgrade for the next Nexus when you call sell off the S3. Problem solved

MadFlava said:
Buy mine for a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade and keep your upgrade for the next Nexus when you call sell off the S3. Problem solved
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wat.

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wat.
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Im selling my Sprint SGS3. I was saying he could buy it and keep his upgrade intact in case A) He wants to cancel or B) Something better eventually comes along.

cardsfan01 said:
My contract is up and my upgrade is now in full effect. I currently have the nexus s 4G and the nexus tablet so needless to say i am a fan of the nexus line. That being said my contract is up and i am really looking at getting the SIII. Wanted to get feedback from this forum on whether or not they still love their phone after being out for several months yet or do you think it is worth waiting (for who nows how long, probably end of this year) for google to release the new nexus phone? what do you like about the SIII, what do you not like? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance.
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I wanted to hold out for the next Nexus, but after seeing the S3 and its specs I couldn't wait any longer. Granted, I was sick of the horrid camera on my EVO 3D, but I still feel like whatever the Nexus has for specs will be pretty comparable to the S3. If you have more willpower than I do, it might be worth waiting. If you can't wait, the S3 is fantastic. (Ignore my posts about battery life - I'm pretty sure I'm at fault and I haven't figured out why. )

cardsfan01 said:
My contract is up and my upgrade is now in full effect. I currently have the nexus s 4G and the nexus tablet so needless to say i am a fan of the nexus line. That being said my contract is up and i am really looking at getting the SIII. Wanted to get feedback from this forum on whether or not they still love their phone after being out for several months yet or do you think it is worth waiting (for who nows how long, probably end of this year) for google to release the new nexus phone? what do you like about the SIII, what do you not like? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance.
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I was forced to use my upgrade when the sIII was out but I wish I had the next nexus
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MadFlava said:
Buy mine for a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade and keep your upgrade for the next Nexus when you call sell off the S3. Problem solved
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It looks like you're selling yours for $450 though... How is that "a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade"?

Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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It looks like you're selling yours for $450 though... How is that "a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade"?
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Its way cheaper than walking in and buying it off contract.
Not to mention Im throwing in an SD card and it has an Invisible Shield HD on it. You couldnt walk out of Best Buy much under $300 after you add in tax. Hell, Ill pay the shipping at $450.00.

KBizzle said:
Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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So you think Samsung will stop making mobile phones because of this? Good Lord, I hope you're wrong, that seems a bit much.
But to the OP, if you wait it out, your next question will be "get nexus now or wait for SGS IV" assuming what KB said isn't true of course.

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Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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right.... so the number 1 selling cellphone company in the world is going to stop because of Apple.. The only thing I see coming from this is Samsung will stop help making the Iphone 6 when it comes out next year (Not the Iphone 5 coming in a few weeks).. Which I think has already been confirmed..

If you're willing to wait till the next years IO ( or possibly Q3/4 2013) then sure.
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Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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You are are about as clueless as your name sounds...wake up get informed before making stupid remarks like this. The only issue that Samsung as is with a few infringements on things like snap back pinch to zoom, but all other issues were in regards to the 1st Galaxy S and trade dress, and out right copy infringement. People like you should never speak before getting your facts straight.

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You are are about as clueless as your name sounds...wake up get informed before making stupid remarks like this. The only issue that Samsung as is with a few infringements on things like snap back pinch to zoom, but all other issues were in regards to the 1st Galaxy S and trade dress, and out right copy infringement. People like you should never speak before getting your facts straight.
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Ummm dude do you know who KBizzle is??? Do you know what he has done?!?
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QWIKSTRIKE said:
You are are about as clueless as your name sounds...wake up get informed before making stupid remarks like this. The only issue that Samsung as is with a few infringements on things like snap back pinch to zoom, but all other issues were in regards to the 1st Galaxy S and trade dress, and out right copy infringement. People like you should never speak before getting your facts straight.
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Calm down man. I guess I should have put some smileys. My comment was purely sarcastic in the sense of being disgusted in the outcome of the lawsuit. Opinion is opinion, not fact. I sincerely hope it doesn't come to this but as I read somewhere, it wouldn't hurt Samsung to stop making cell devices as their profits can come from their many other products.
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I was going to wait, but jumped at the S3. I'm happy with my decision.
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the S III is a good phone. matter of fact it's a really, really good phone but nothing gets the development that a nexus gets. chances are the new nexus will have specs equal to or slightly better than the S III. you could have the best of both worlds by waiting.

Wait. Although this phone is still new to date there isn't much AOSP development. With out that this phone is nice but.... TouchWiz other than bells and whistles makes this phone, slow. I have had cm10 and aokp on this device and it's a totally different animal. I guess I understand why people like TouchWiz but it really takes away from this phones true potential. Just really depends on whether you want a phone based on performance or one based on glitz and glam. I would not be surprised to see a quad core in the next nexus with the 4G lte chips becoming available. Something else to consider.
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Wait. Although this phone is still new to date there isn't much AOSP development. With out that this phone is nice but.... TouchWiz other than bells and whistles makes this phone, slow. I have had cm10 and aokp on this device and it's a totally different animal. I guess I understand why people like TouchWiz but it really takes away from this phones true potential. Just really depends on whether you want a phone based on performance or one based on glitz and glam. I would not be surprised to see a quad core in the next nexus with the 4G lte chips becoming available. Something else to consider.
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The nice thing about TW phones is you have the choice...you can always put AOSP on here, but you couldn't go vice versa on a Nexus phone. If you despise TW that much, then you wouldn't want it anyway, but there's no question the Galaxy series phones ALWAYS have the best hardware when made. You can always change software, but you can't really change the hardware.
The biggest question in my mind is will the next Nexus have the new A15 processor. If it does, it'll be a mighty big upgrade. If not, it won't be that impressive from a hardware standpoint, maybe up to par with what the SIII already has, but six months later.
New processor tech like this only comes out maybe once every three or so years I believe. If the Nexus has a dual A15, it'll smoke anything else out without a shadow of a doubt. Then I think some people, myself included, would be a little bummed about getting the SIII when we did. Heck, I had my upgrade for a year and a half before I finally got the SIII, and I'm glad I did. This phone is freaking awesome, but my only disappointment was it didn't come with the A15.
The other thing is will they release a new Nexus without a new OS? I don't think they can possibly release another OS this fall. I think like 60 some percent of phones are still running Gingerbread which would mean those phones are running three version old software. Not exactly an ideal situation for Google in my opinion.

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The nice thing about TW phones is you have the choice...you can always put AOSP on here, but you couldn't go vice versa on a Nexus phone. If you despise TW that much, then you wouldn't want it anyway, but there's no question the Galaxy series phones ALWAYS have the best hardware when made. You can always change software, but you can't really change the hardware.
The biggest question in my mind is will the next Nexus have the new A15 processor. If it does, it'll be a mighty big upgrade. If not, it won't be that impressive from a hardware standpoint, maybe up to par with what the SIII already has, but six months later.
New processor tech like this only comes out maybe once every three or so years I believe. If the Nexus has a dual A15, it'll smoke anything else out without a shadow of a doubt. Then I think some people, myself included, would be a little bummed about getting the SIII when we did. Heck, I had my upgrade for a year and a half before I finally got the SIII, and I'm glad I did. This phone is freaking awesome, but my only disappointment was it didn't come with the A15.
The other thing is will they release a new Nexus without a new OS? I don't think they can possibly release another OS this fall. I think like 60 some percent of phones are still running Gingerbread which would mean those phones are running three version old software. Not exactly an ideal situation for Google in my opinion.
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Remember there's hundreds of android products around the world from high end to low end. These things simply just take time. Remember when froyo was the majority and gingerbread was the minority? Well look it now. And also alot of older phones just dont have the right processing power/hardware to run ics properly

Talk Me Into the S3

Here is the situation:
I am a 23 year old CIS Grad who loves technology, computers, and my phone.
Current Phone - iPhone 4 (Needed trusty OS and previously had a Fascinate, Droid, iPhone 3G)
Carrier - Verizon
Upgrade Available? - Yes
Reasons I am on iOS
I steered clear of Android over the last few years because they release so many phones that I always feel that I will get the short end of the stick, see a newer, better phone, and want to kill myself.
Android Updates are just inconsistent (unless you have a Nexus, which is already outdated).
Reasons I Shouldn't Be on iOS
I love customizing my phone
I love rooting my phone
I love experimenting with the OS
So, should I get the Samsung Galaxy S III?
Wait for a newer, better phone this holiday season?
Other phones I am interested in -
HTC 8X

I'd wait for note 2 or next nexus. The next nexus is gonna be announced at tje end of this month
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It's not an iPhone!
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I know that lol. I hate the iPhone. I am not in support of companies who fail to innovate. I just needed a reliable phone and at that time, it was the most reliable.

Well we already have jelly Bean albeit it's a leak but near perfect
Removable battery
Wires that don't cost a fortune
Hd display
Has a perfect weight/thickness (my friends complain about it being too thin)(not joking or sarcasm from them)
Google maps will forever be> Apple maps
No camera problems (iPhone has that pink thing)
Removable battery
Cdma versions already have cm10 and miui and paranoid and aosp and aokp
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It's not an iPhone!
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Well we already have jelly Bean albeit it's a leak but near perfect
Removable battery
Writes that don't cost a fortune
Hd display
Has a perfect weight/thickness (my friends complain about it being too thin)(not joking or sarcasm from them)
Google maps will forever be> Apple maps
No camera problems (iPhone has that pink thing)
Removable battery
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So you think I should wait until October 29th (Next Nexus announcement) or buy the S3 now?

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So you think I should wait until October 29th (Next Nexus announcement) or buy the S3 now?
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I would get the S3 over the new nexus any day. Only for one reason though LG is making it and I will never own something from LG again. I have had bad luck with LG everything and I mean everything I have ever bought that was LG was complete **** IMO. Even with it beaning a new nexus I feel the S3 still is far more superior. Good luck on your choice.
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I rather throw my money in the trash then to buy an iPhone.

Have the s3 love it best android phone I have owned. Gonna probably get the note 2 since its a s3 on steroids.
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I find it funny that one of your reasons for avoiding Android has been because of the wide variety of choices, fearing that as soon as you purchase a phone it'll already be outdated.....
So to remedy this you went ahead and chose a proprietary phone that was outdated 6 months before it was even available to purchase!
ICS is good on the S3. With the right custom TW ROM, you get good speed, a smooth UI, good battery life, and that it's easier to use than GB (my wife has the Conquer 4G).
I've used the JB leak though, and can confirm its faster, easier to use, provides better battery life, and seems to have enabled better data speeds (although, this could just be a placebo) than my current favorite TW ICS ROM. I believe KLP will see even more improvements, and that's due out towards the end of the month (rumor has it).
As far as phone hardware goes. This is technology. Of course it will be outshine shortly after release! The market is competitive,and that means the consumer wins. You can't go wrong in getting the SGS3 right now. Likewise, if you wanted to wait, nobody would blame you for holding out for the Note 2, or a new Nexus device, or HTC's answer to the SGS3, or the SGS4.....I could keep going because there'll always be something around the corner.
So break out of the pen, sell your wool, leave the apple where it fell and get yourself a phone that you've researched and are confident meets your needs - then come back here to XDA, do more research (use search please), and make your device unique, one-of-a-kind, and expect the best from your device.
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gjsii13 said:
Here is the situation:
I am a 23 year old CIS Grad who loves technology, computers, and my phone.
Current Phone - iPhone 4 (Needed trusty OS and previously had a Fascinate, Droid, iPhone 3G)
Carrier - Verizon
Upgrade Available? - Yes
Reasons I am on iOS
I steered clear of Android over the last few years because they release so many phones that I always feel that I will get the short end of the stick, see a newer, better phone, and want to kill myself.
Android Updates are just inconsistent (unless you have a Nexus, which is already outdated).
Reasons I Shouldn't Be on iOS
I love customizing my phone
I love rooting my phone
I love experimenting with the OS
So, should I get the Samsung Galaxy S III?
Wait for a newer, better phone this holiday season?
Other phones I am interested in -
HTC 8X
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I'd wait for the fall/winter offerings

I have only owned 4 smartphones so my opinion may not be on great use. However I thoroughly enjoy the S3 and have to say it is my favorite phone..plus I haven't even rooted it yet. My first smartphone was an iPhone 3g so of course I loved it, but when I got my Inspire I never looked back. I rooted my Inspire and flashed the hell out of it. Every other week it felt like I had a new phone with new tips and tricks to learn. I never felt like my phone was outdated although it was.
After I was eligible to upgrade I picked up an Evo 4G Lte which I ended up returning. The only things I miss are the build quality and audio quality. I'm not saying the S3 doesn't have good sound because it does, and it is much louder than the Evo was. The build quality is fine as well, but I liked the kickstand and "metal" body. Regardless of those two factors I still love my S3. I have yet to root it and feel that if I do I will love it that much more. I also feel that with the internals, screen, and software this phone is packing, it is a definite winner. ICS/JB are both very good operating systems and feel much more fluid and closer to the level of "quality" someone who buys an iPhone might expect. The community here is also great which is another reason that I'm sticking with the droid.

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[*]I steered clear of Android over the last few years because they release so many phones that I always feel that I will get the short end of the stick, see a newer, better phone, and want to kill myself.
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Honestly, that's one of the things I like about android phones. With so many OEMs competing, you get slightly better phones every few months or so. Better processor, better screen, better camera, NFC, new design etc. So you get gradual progress over the year. With iPhone (at least starting with the 4s) you get slight progress once a year.

To paraphrase NWA, the SGS3's the motherf*cker that's built to last.

Don't buy lg
S3 is future proof
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S3 is a great phone no doubt. But it should be easy to pick between it and the Note 2 because they are in different catagories. Do you want a phone that also doubles as a small tablet or just a phone? IMO the Note 2 is too big for someone that wants just a phone but I realize that is not always the case.
Other thing to consider is the sooner you upgrade the sooner you can upgrade next time. Also, the S3 is going to be cheaper on the upgrade since it has dropped in price while the Note 2 or any of the new phones are gonna cost more.
Not trying to sway either way just giving some things to consider.

New dock, and the headphone jack is on the bott..........oh damn never mind. In all seriousness I would just wait, you hit the nail on the head about all the different android phones that come out after the release of the newest thing. You will never have the latest android phone on contract unless you have money to burn.
The S3 is a fantastic phone and will hold me over for the time being and plus I bought the plan from bestbuy that gives me the most bang for my buck if I want to get something else before my two years is up. I would not recommend buying any lg phone even if it is a nexus device.
Do you plan on staying with Verizon and what type of plan do you have with them? Hell if you could spare the cash, find an s3 for sale locally and save that upgrade.

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New dock, and the headphone jack is on the bott..........oh damn never mind. In all seriousness I would just wait, you hit the nail on the head about all the different android phones that come out after the release of the newest thing. You will never have the latest android phone on contract unless you have money to burn.
The S3 is a fantastic phone and will hold me over for the time being and plus I bought the plan from bestbuy that gives me the most bang for my buck if I want to get something else before my two years is up. I would not recommend buying any lg phone even if it is a nexus device.
Do you plan on staying with Verizon and what type of plan do you have with them? Hell if you could spare the cash, find an s3 for sale locally and save that upgrade.
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I have to stick with Verizon. My plan is through a company. I don't believe the Note 2 will ever come to Verizon.
I am not as petrified of LG as most of you, but I'm also not content with it either.
To those of you basically saying I am an Apple fanboy or iOS junkie, thats just simply false. I only bought the iPhone 4 because of how frustrated I was at Samsung with its Fascinate support and the speed at which Android released new firmwares that were incompatibile with almost every phone except the Nexus.
I cannot stand iOS, I just didn't feel like shelling out $600+ while under contract for a phone that saw less support (albeit with more features than the iPhone).
I am worried about spending my contract on the GS3 because Key Lime Pie is due out soon, and technically the S3 doesn't even have Jelly Bean yet.
I know a KLP rom will be out but I would prefer a KLP based rom.

If you're a tech enthusiast, I don't think you need us to talk you into it. Look at the stats, make up your own mind. Think for yourself.
Obviously you come into this forum you're going to get skewed results. Go into an iPhone forum and tell them you're thinking of switching to Android and see what their consensus is.
That being said, I have had zero problems with my SIII and I don't think I'll have any regrets about buying it until I'm eligible for a new phone.
The advancements that have been made in Android the past 1.5-2 years are incredible to say the least.