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E4gt future proof

So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december), and I want to be sure this thing will stay satisfying for two years.
Primarily, I want to avoid issues the epic 4g has: limited (although what there is is extremely dedicated) dev support and lack of cm/miui that keeps the phone stuck at outdated os iterations (which is mostly sammy's fault anyway).
What im asking is, is this phone a dev darling and do they promise to love it for ever, even after samsung abandons it in 8 months?
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There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"

which ROM makes Banana Pancakes?
Mine only makes Buttermilk.....

Premier program upgrade expires 12/31/12 you have a good year and two months to make a decision.

Trickee360 said:
So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december)
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Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.

When it comes to electronics, nothing is future proof!
The SGS2 is a great phone today and while it might not be the top of the line in a few months it will still be able to handle it's own.
There is one thing I am jealous of with the Galaxy Nexus, and that is the HD screen. If the SGS2 would have had an HD screen, it would be right up there with the GN. I do not count ICS because the SGS2 will eventually get it. If the GN only had a qhd screen I don't think I would care as much....Seems almost like qhd screens didn't stay around as the top dog for to long. Guess the lower end devices will be going qhd while top end goes 720p to compete.

The point is well taken that there's no such thing as a future-proofe phone. I should have qualified that I am asking if this phone appears likely to enjoy EVO or HD2-like developer love. I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
I was on the phone with Sprint for an hour and a half talking about my upgrade status and they repeatedly told me it would expire on Dec 31, 2011. I guess I'll call again and ask again. I don't know what to trust anymore. If I get another year I'll be extatic.
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The program itself ends 12/31/11 but you have until the end of next year to use your upgrade.

Just called Sprint to confirm my upgrade won't expire! Thanks so much for the heads-up, my XDA brothers XD
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I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.

sfhub said:
Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.
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I did not know that, i just checked and next September I have an upgrade available... cool.

worldwidepmp said:
I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.
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Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated

G1-8701 said:
Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN. We will get ICS whether it be official or not, so that will really even the playing field. So our phone is future proof until you start seeing quad core phones come out and well as Sprint LTE phones. But I would say you are good for at least the next year to year and half with the SGS2.
When the specs for the SGS3 get dropped, I am betting that will be a game changer and Samsungs flagship phone, not the Nexus.

buggerritt said:
There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"
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I hate you... Now I want Banana pancakes!

IMO, dual core SOCs and 1GB RAM are the major milestone for smartphones. Quad cores will improve benchmarks, but probably not much else. Cutting edge OS is what's important to me now, which the GN covers nicely
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN.
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Not quite. We don't have NFC or a barometer, either. The lack of NFC means we can't use Google Wallet or Beam... ever, and the barometer means slower GPS locks and we can't use any other aps that take advantage of it.
I don't quite understand why Sprint had Samsung remove the NFC chip... it's the only GS2 variant that doesn't have one, and aside from LTE, that's the newest feature everyone is jumping on lately.
This phone will have a lot of life in it, but it's not future proof.

The nexus has a cheap pentile display. Go with the epic touch you won't regret it. And it has a sa+ display!
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Trickee360 said:
I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
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I really enjoyed the support out there for my EVO 4G, and was a little disappointed at the lack of options out there right now for my shiney new E4GT (not complaining, stating a fact, back off flamers)
However, read through the forums for the other variations of the SGS2 and you can see it's out there for them. I just think Sprints baby is a little late to the party, but is going to get it's fair share of cake. Read through some of the Developer posts and there is news popping up fairly regularly about test builds of CM7 and MIUI...

I am getting closer and closer to getting this. I just know a week after I do the galaxy nexus will be announced for sprint.
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I'll be honest, this is my first android phone (epic touch 4g), but I have been tinkering with anything that draws power since I was a little guy ripping apart old stereo receivers and what not! Sure, something with some more bang is bound to come out in the next few months or so; but in my opinion, a device with the capabilities exhibited by this phone are not going to be overlooked anytime soon! Some people may dump the phone and grab whatever is better on the market at that time, but dev is not going to halt for this phone anytime soon as far as I can tell. Even before getting this phone I've done lots of research on android phones and spoken to friends that have owned such, and this is phone definitely marks a milestone in my opinion. Sure it has its bugs, I get LoS once a week or so; but despite its flaws (which will be resolved by the manufacturer or else!) it is a great phone and will serve any user well for YEARS! Hell, I had a Blackberry 8330 for a few years, wasn't anything special by any means at all but with some TLC and mods it was a great phone for as long as I had it. The ET4G should last a Looooooong time...
Edit: I also wanted to say, to those who were saying things about the Galaxy Nexus coming out for Sprint. Sure you may be able to the phone with Sprint in the very near future, but is it not quite similar to the ET4G? Really I guess it depends on preference and such. From what I've read and heard, though...the phones are not THAT much different so I guess whatever feel you like best is what you should get! Cheers!

Convince me why i shouldnt have buyers remorse! :/

Hey guys, i just order a pair of GNs for myself and so, though im now having buyers remorse.
I love the look of the nexus, though i just feel as i mad a bad decision and should of gone with the Note, S2, htc one S, or even the X.

for one, it will most likely have the best deveolper support and nothing rivals vanilla ics
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That is to bad I am having Buyers Rejoice. Never had such a great phone. Let alone the best phone on the market.
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Well, do you take so many calls you need two phones?
I'd feel remorse too in that case

adrynalyne said:
Well, do you take so many calls you need two phones?
I'd feel remorse too in that case
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Haha no, so = significant other (fiance)

natious said:
Haha no, so = significant other (fiance)
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Oh well, in that case, no.
My wife loves hers.
That said there is always remorse in buying a 5 month old device. It is a dinosaur in tech terms; even if the software is cutting edge.

I would say take it back and get the phone you want.

The GN is a great device. The developer support is great if you wish to try all kinds of amazing ROMS. But even if you don't, the GN is a great stock. I love not having to hack my device to remove all the bloat. Just stock ICS. But as someone else said, its about 5 months old. Something to remember. Devices will always come out. But I am not sure if I would buy it today. Not with the HTC One X out (import). And the Galaxy S 3 is more than likely going to be a device worth upgrading for. In short, its up to you.
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I came from the sgs2 and I can honestly say this phone is far superior. I havent tried the one s yet so I cant speak for that.
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I for one came from the MyTouch 4G slide, and couldn't he happier.
The developer support on that phone is pretty much dead, and I actually got used to have no physical keyboard really fast.
This phone is fast, gorgeous, and its so relieving not having to worry about crap like Sense, or Blur from my previous phone the Motorola Cliq.
Sense 4.0 looks nice, but vanilla ICS is so much more beautiful without the extra bloat.
As for the hardware, I want a phone that can do everything a phone should, with a bit of extra fun, and this does just that.
Running games at ~50FPS is great, I don't see why I need a quad core phone to have them run at ~60FPS, at the risk of more battery consumption for little significant gain. There is no future proofing since a year down the line you will switch again; and by that time, your phone will still be just as powerful.
Hell, the G1 is still a great phone if you use it as one.

natious said:
Hey guys, i just order a pair of GNs for myself and so, though im now having buyers remorse.
I love the look of the nexus, though i just feel as i mad a bad decision and should of gone with the Note, S2, htc one S, or even the X.
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sounds like you dont know what you want and will probably feel the same with any of those phones.

Early May could very well be the announcement of the Galaxy S XXX super duper HD and I'd still not care. If it's not a GSM Nexus, it's not for me, because of the myriad of reasons already covered in this forum.
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Spec wise, the HTC One X kinda beats the Nexus but isn't as fast in real use because of Sense 4.0. The only phone to beat the Nexus will be the Galaxy S3, but that usually will become the basis for the next Nexus anyway, so you just have to choose which cycle to get on, the Nexus Cycle or the Galaxy S Cycle. Stock Google and latest Firmware make the Nexus Cycle a no-brainer. I just hope you got a deal on the Nexus(s) because they are dirt cheap now (~$450)

I enjoy AOSP and the ease of modding with this device. Sure there might be other devices coming out w/ newer tech, but I don't think I can stand skins anymore. Even de-sensed and de-blurred don't cut it anymore.

I always get buyers remorse so can't really help you there. All I can say is that I wish i'd waited for SGS3 because if it's anything like the SGS2, which blows the nexus out of the water in every way but the screen, then I will be having a very very bad case of buyers remorse on 3rd May lol.
As for helping with your buyers remorse, if you like the look and feel of the phone, and can live with some minor flaws like the odd bit of lag, you will be ok with this phone.

dnlsmy said:
Spec wise, the HTC One X kinda beats the Nexus but isn't as fast in real use because of Sense 4.0. The only phone to beat the Nexus will be the Galaxy S3, but that usually will become the basis for the next Nexus anyway, so you just have to choose which cycle to get on, the Nexus Cycle or the Galaxy S Cycle. Stock Google and latest Firmware make the Nexus Cycle a no-brainer. I just hope you got a deal on the Nexus(s) because they are dirt cheap now (~$450)
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$429 NIB + 2 years warranty shipped(each), so it was a pretty good deal.
I like what you're saying and i think that will be my plan of attack and just upgrade every nexus release, even if i had waited for the GS3 i wouldn't of been able to pick 2 of them up, I'm guessing they are going to be $800-$900.
Well thanks guys i feel a little better, im using a desire Z at the moment so it should be a big leap.

natious said:
$429 NIB + 2 years warranty shipped(each), so it was a pretty good deal.
I like what you're saying and i think that will be my plan of attack and just upgrade every nexus release, even if i had waited for the GS3 i wouldn't of been able to pick 2 of them up, I'm guessing they are going to be $800-$900.
Well thanks guys i feel a little better, im using a desire Z at the moment so it should be a big leap.
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I don't think you'll have remorse. You're getting a great package, great price and updating to 4.0.4 will be awesome. And if you're a tinkerer it can only get better. Just think, a lot of us paid over $700 and don't regret it at all, even with the small problems we've had. And if you're already on xda, free tech support. Notice I said tech support and not noob support.
bow chicka wow wow.

dnlsmy said:
Spec wise, the HTC One X kinda beats the Nexus but isn't as fast in real use because of Sense 4.0.
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+1. I've had the Desire and Desire HD before getting the GN and I must say every phone I've come across with Sense on it has been so poorly coded that it's had FPS issues just swiping from homescreen to homescreen.
The HTC One without Sense will best the GN hands down when stripped of Sense but I can't help but think (despite not having used one) that it will still struggle to run at a fluid ~59fps with Sense on it.

The Galaxy Nexus like all Nexus phones is a reference phone, Android as Google intended without all the extra manufacturers add to it (ie Sense, Touchwiz, Motoblur, etc.) which some people may actually like. If you like Sense then a HTC One might be the way to go for you.
My biggest thing with Android phones is developer support. I personally am coming from a HTC Thunderbolt, which at the time was great, a ton of developers, ROMS, MODS....life was nice. Then, the Nexus came out, and within a month about 75% of the developers had jumped ship, updates were slow, and it just wasn't fun anymore.
So that said here is my list of things I look for when buying a new phone
1. Good Developer Support (Pretty much guaranteed for Nexus phones)
2. Style, Build, and Accessories (I would say HTC usually takes this, but Sammy is catching up)
3. Newness of Technology (You don't want a phone that is still using 2 year old tech. However, the newest tech is not the best bet either, since this creates issues with developers being able to take advantage of the latest and greatest in their ROMS. The thunderbolt was a perfect example, it was the first with 4G LTE, which was a nightmare for developers to get the ROMS working right. Till this day CM7 is still not an official build on the Thunderbolt.
4. Resale Value - Lets be honest you do not have an Apple Device which gets good resale prices due to its limited lineup. However, Nexus phones often keep better resale then their counterparts just due to the fact it is a Nexus phone. I usually trade up every year, sell the old one with its accessories for about 300 and use it to buy the next one. This allows you to get the latest and greatest every year, for about the same price of an upgrade or cheaper.

I'd buy the GN in a heartbeat at prices now... ~$440 unlocked.
This device feels way more solid than the Galaxy S2 that my SO has.

Is the Galaxy Nexus still good?

Here's the thing: I'm in high school, and love developing. I love the android platform because it's so much more open than, say iOS. I currently have an iPhone 4S, and my mother is going to get a new phone tomorrow. This will be her first smartphone. I know iOS is more user-friendly and Siri would be a great help to her, since she drives a lot but also likes to text/talk to her friends. So what I'm wondering, is should I give my mom my iPhone, and get a Galaxy Nexus? Are they still top of the line devices? I've been longing for android ever since my samsung continuum broke and I was talked into getting this piece of garbage. I know that my mom's interested in smartphones, and I was thinking that my iPhone would probably be the best thing for her instead of an android. Or, should I let her get an android and then keep my iPhone? Thanks for taking the time to read this, I appreciate it.

well has she tried to use your iphone yet? let her try it. and the nexus still seems to be a live and licking device i just bought mine last night and i love it.
if your momo doesnt like the iphone take her in to the store and look at some of the lower end android phones. im not sure what cell provider you have though or i could recommend some to you.

Is the nexus top of the line? Not anymore. Is it a great phone? Most definitely. And it's still a very relevant device. Plenty of development, and will continue for quite some time.
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I'm guessing mom's would like the iphone. Give it to her! Then get the phone that Google built. Oh and developed ICS and JB on FTW!

whoot said:
I currently have an iPhone 4S, and my mother is going to get a new phone tomorrow. This will be her first smartphone. I know iOS is more user-friendly and Siri would be a great help to her, since she drives a lot but also likes to text/talk to her friends. So what I'm wondering, is should I give my mom my iPhone, and get a Galaxy Nexus?...I've been longing for android ever since my samsung continuum broke and I was talked into getting this piece of garbage. I know that my mom's interested in smartphones, and I was thinking that my iPhone would probably be the best thing for her instead of an android. Or, should I let her get an android and then keep my iPhone? Thanks for taking the time to read this, I appreciate it.
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Well, you'd be doing her a disservice but it depends on a lot of things, not the least of which is budget.
My thoughts: if you can get her a "powerful" android (as in, Galaxy Nexus or better, using your judgment and keeping in mind that some newer devices don't quite have the software edge) then do that. But, if it means you have to keep your iPhone.. well, I can't make that decision for you, it depends how much you like her I guess :laugh:
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Are they still top of the line devices?
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GN is probably the best bang for the buck at this particular moment, especially if you custom ROM the hell out of it. Plus, it's relatively cheap so good if you're on a budget. (Make sure you take full advantage of its unlocked pentaband and go prepaid, preferably for the $30/month plan, which results in massive savings over time.) That said, it's about a year old and will be succeeded by the next Nexus within a few months.

Well is your mom tech-savy? No? Give her the iPhone. Yes? Buy her the next iPhone, it is just around the block.
Is Gnex top-of-the-line smartphone RIGHT NOW? NOPE. If you want top-of-the-line hardware, GS3 or HTC One X.
Is Gnex still an amazing phone? YUP! Despite the lower specs, Gnex runs smooth and fast.
Should you get it over GS3? I dunno. If you don't mind lower hardware or maybe you're on a budget, Gnex. If you definitely need top-of-the-line hardware, GS3.

My dad got an iphone4 and likes it my mom has had, palm Pre(my old) 3vo, and droid RAZR, and a touchpad cm9.
Now my dad its his first smartphone so iPhone is good for him. Mom on the other hand doesn't like iPhone.
On side note the nexus s(2010) is getting or got android JB. so I would imagine the gnex will get android K&L
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I got my mom an iPhone for her birthday. She isn't to into tech but she somewhat knows what she's doing. She loves it mostly for its simplicity. And lucky Me I got my gnex.

[Q] GSIII or Nexus 4?

So, for the past while now I have been looking for a replacement phone for my G2 (which sadly now has a broken screen, I have been using screencast to operate the phone for weeks now. However I can still answer the phone normally when called without the need for a computer system thanks to easy memory.)
Since my upgrade is already available I do not know if I should try to get the GSIII or the LG Nexus 4 (god willing if it actually comes to T-Mobile). I want a phone that will last the time needed for me between now and my next upgrade in 2 years. (I am not fortunate enough to buy off contract, if I did this would be entirely irrelevant.) While the GSIII offers the popular end and will probably get the best AOSP for a damn good long time, I also find a great appeal over the LG Nexus 4 being able to get stock updates on the fly upon release, while I would still consider AOSP for the Nexus 4 because of the added options as well.
Basically it comes down between the two and what is the best choice when it comes right down to quality + support + longevity over the next 2 years. I know a lot can happen within that timeframe, but I do not want to be forgotten so soon like I was with the G2. Plus I want to be able to have an absolutely wonderful experience with customization with little limitations.
I know its foolish to consider the Nexus 4 considering that its not officially out yet nor do we know it will be offered by T-Mobile US. I also know that even with a top of the line phone there will always be something better around the corner that will topple mine. Finally I know that the focus of the AOSP community will shift on to other projects while whichever one I choose now will not remain the prime focus forever.
I just want a phone that will get me as far as I can between my 2 year cycle. Growing with a "pure" experience with the G2, soon followed by AOSP and after that AOKP. I want to be able to get the same (or hopefully, MUCH BETTER) experience out of that, I have no problem rooting (hell I remember the days when the G2 was damn near "impossible" to root) and if anything I would probably end up rooting my phone as soon as I get it in my hands.
The only limitations right now between these two and me is my patience, and the luck that the Nx4 will come out on T-Mobile. Again, with my current situation with my G2 I do not have much time left to decide. I have been waiting long enough and with most of the information we have on both of these devices that I am looking at I think it can be time to consider which one I rather get.
So which one should I consider getting? Should I try waiting out longer for the Nexus 4 or should I go for the GSIII now?

I'll read fully next time. But for now no, LG has the worst reputation in tge cell phone industry if you ask me and alot of other LG users.
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I seriously never get it whats the point of asking some strangers what phone should i get lol...it is widely known that lg sucks sony sucks htc is good but not dev friendly so the only choice left for me would be sammy

The nexus 4 won't even come to T-Mobile. There, problem solved.
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I still have a working g2. Loving the sgs3
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I never buy on contract. I also never buy a new phone. I bought a slightly used SGS3 for $350 on craigslist. A year from now, I'll sell it for $200 and buy the SGS4 (or whatever I'm interested in at the time). Saves a lot over the life of the phone. $20/month cheaper for the plan, $240/year savings, and I'm only putting out $150 for a phone every year. So I get a new slightly used phone every year and still save money.
Look for a decent SGS3 on craigslist and buy it.

While I am aware that the history with LG has been mixed (and shall I say down right horrible with T-Mobile) The most of the issues resided over software and not hardware. Plus since the LG nexus 4 is a nexus device it should be obvious that it will be Google handling the updates, not LG nor T-Mobile.
That said I have done some personal analysis on both and came to the conclusion that while the LG Nexus 4 does seem attractive in both what is on board and the software distribution, the GSIII will probably have the higher end of LTS for some time. Even if the GSIV would to come out sometime next year the GSIII would still get popular support regardless due to the many people who own one and are locked with one until their contract is up. Plus The GSIII has no signs of slowing down even with the Note II on the rise. If another nexus handset would come out the LTS for it would be a gamble depending if people will take to the Nexus 4 with open arms compared to the previous devices. Not only that but even in accessory appeal as well the GSIII outdoes the Nexus brand as a whole.
I was considering the Nexus 4 because of its Quadcore processor and pure google experience on the fly. Even with all that updated more so than the SIII, however the SIII will win in the end with better support thanks to its incredibly large community.
I think I will go for the GSIII now! Tell me, before this thread becomes entirely useless can someone tell me which best route I should go when I get this? I am not one for skinned UI, I can get used to it but I prefer to not deal with bloat and lag when I can get the most out of this device.

Nexus won't have bloat, but there is no lag in the s3 with stock.
I was in the exact same position, minus the broken screen, and I decided to pick up the galaxy s 3 for now and see what the new nexus has to offer when it gets here. I figure I can sell the gs3 pretty easily if I really want the nexus, and if not, I still have a great phone.
I can only tell you that I'm extremely happy with my gs3 but I continue to keep an eye on nexus rumors.
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I should not I am running cyanogen because I couldn't stand touchwiz.

The Unnamed Time Lord said:
While I am aware that the history with LG has been mixed (and shall I say down right horrible with T-Mobile) The most of the issues resided over software and not hardware. Plus since the LG nexus 4 is a nexus device it should be obvious that it will be Google handling the updates, not LG nor T-Mobile.
That said I have done some personal analysis on both and came to the conclusion that while the LG Nexus 4 does seem attractive in both what is on board and the software distribution, the GSIII will probably have the higher end of LTS for some time. Even if the GSIV would to come out sometime next year the GSIII would still get popular support regardless due to the many people who own one and are locked with one until their contract is up. Plus The GSIII has no signs of slowing down even with the Note II on the rise. If another nexus handset would come out the LTS for it would be a gamble depending if people will take to the Nexus 4 with open arms compared to the previous devices. Not only that but even in accessory appeal as well the GSIII outdoes the Nexus brand as a whole.
I was considering the Nexus 4 because of its Quadcore processor and pure google experience on the fly. Even with all that updated more so than the SIII, however the SIII will win in the end with better support thanks to its incredibly large community.
I think I will go for the GSIII now! Tell me, before this thread becomes entirely useless can someone tell me which best route I should go when I get this? I am not one for skinned UI, I can get used to it but I prefer to not deal with bloat and lag when I can get the most out of this device.
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I think it is foolish to think the Nexus 4 may not have a large developer community.

The next Nexus is pretty much guaranteed to have large dev support. The device itself may be made by LG, but everything software wise is handled through Google so there's no issue there and with a large developer community you'll have AOSP options as CM, AOKP, etc. If you're worried about hardware defects (every phone has a few, it's just a matter of getting lucky and getting the one with the least amount of defects) then wait a couple weeks to see what people say such as the display having issues, dust getting inside the screen, etc. The phone specs itself already beats the S3 in every way, but I'm pretty sure it'll be Google handling sales directly again with the GSM model so if you're looking to renew your contract to get the phone cheaper, the S3 is pretty much your best choice

Wait for the note 2
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colorado_al said:
I never buy on contract. I also never buy a new phone. I bought a slightly used SGS3 for $350 on craigslist. A year from now, I'll sell it for $200 and buy the SGS4 (or whatever I'm interested in at the time). Saves a lot over the life of the phone. $20/month cheaper for the plan, $240/year savings, and I'm only putting out $150 for a phone every year. So I get a new slightly used phone every year and still save money.
Look for a decent SGS3 on craigslist and buy it.
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Brilliant plan.
As for OP, I wouldn't be so faithful in the Nexus 4 coming to T-mobile.
From your story, it seems that you need a working phone right now.
I'd just go with the SGSIII, the community behind it is very strong.
Use CM10 to get the stock experience, the CyanogenMod team is very good with updates.
However, if the rumors turn out be be true, the possibility of multiple Nexus devices means that one can be a T-mobile variant.
I'd wait for the official Google announcement when they have their event on October 29th.
The Galaxy Nexus will probably be getting a price cut sometime soon. It seems like a worthwhile update to me.

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Brilliant plan.
As for OP, I wouldn't be so faithful in the Nexus 4 coming to T-mobile.
From your story, it seems that you need a working phone right now.
I'd just go with the SGSIII, the community behind it is very strong.
Use CM10 to get the stock experience, the CyanogenMod team is very good with updates.
However, if the rumors turn out be be true, the possibility of multiple Nexus devices means that one can be a T-mobile variant.
I'd wait for the official Google announcement when they have their event on October 29th.
The Galaxy Nexus will probably be getting a price cut sometime soon. It seems like a worthwhile update to me.
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There won't be multiple nexus phones.
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I think LG's reputation is a little skewed IMO. At the same time only LG has themselves to blame for on that one. But let's think of why LG has a bad rep fist before we completely count out the LG Nexus 4. Basically they have a bad rep because of their failure to provide the necessary drivers for devs (ala G2x) or just plain out suck at updating their devices.
But their quality on their devices is very very good. I had a G2x and the build quality of that phone was outstanding IMO. The screen was great, the over all build was nice and I loved everything about it. Only thing that sucked balls was it's software and bad updates.
So now if you combine LG's good build quality plus Google handling the software side? I think it's a win win situation!
So to the OP, it really depends if you wanna wait or not. I have a Galaxy Nexus and I'm loving owning a Nexus, the fact that I get updates right on the spot and on time is awesome. So I'll say to wait for the LG Nexus, but if you can't wait, the SIII is perfectly fine as well.
Good luck dude.

Almost in the same boat as you,
still doubting between S3 and the Note 2,
For me the nexus isn't interesting because the battery is not replaceable and no storage cards.
The only thing keeping me from saying not 2 for sure is that the phone is rather big

Non removable battery on the nexus is a deal killer. I've pulled the battery 100 times on every phone I've ever had. Helpful when you get a boot loop flashing eye candy
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Karakoram2 said:
Non removable battery on the nexus is a deal killer. I've pulled the battery 100 times on every phone I've ever had. Helpful when you get a boot loop flashing eye candy
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If in boot loop I'm almost positive you just hold the power button wait for a vibrate then hold button combo to boot into recovery. Used to do it on past phones, sure it works on this phone even, just don't get boot loops is another way to avoid that dilemma.
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Poll: Reason we as people buy a new phone and whats the motive/selling point

Wanted to start a unusual Poll thread about
Why we buy the latest and greatest phones and whats the motive or reasoning behind it?
Not just about the galaxys or s4..even any device...
Whats become the selling point for you as a "INDIVIDUAL" in your case for instance?
Like many of us phone junkies admit we have had to have it the day it drops.. whats the biggest reason and is it a sickness.
Do our old phones really not do what a phones meant to do at the end of a day? just because a new one has taken its place?
Maybe its cause of the new look
Maybe it's due to the rumored batt life
Maybe its a new design
And maybe its just a habit
For me its about the always improving batt life of upcoming devices. ..
Old phones were plagued with batt life issues i believe now we are overcoming that.
Also for me and the s4 it wasnt the cam that sold me I felt the ir blaster was a very unique feature.
What's your reason?
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I'm a tech junkie so I love having the latest and greatest. I also recently became hooked to root and flashing roms/mods and the development on my previous phone (S3) slowed down a lot. So here I am lol
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lojak29 said:
Wanted to start a unusual Poll thread about
Why we buy the latest and greatest phones and whats the motive or reasoning behind it?
Not just about the galaxys or s4..even any device...
Whats become the selling point for you as a "INDIVIDUAL" in your case for instance?
Like many of us phone junkies admit we have had to have it the day it drops.. whats the biggest reason and is it a sickness.
Do our old phones really not do what a phones meant to do at the end of a day? just because a new one has taken its place?
Maybe its cause of the new look
Maybe it's due to the rumored batt life
Maybe its a new design
And maybe its just a habit
For me its about the always improving batt life of upcoming devices. ..
Old phones were plagued with batt life issues i believe now we are overcoming that.
Also for me and the s4 it wasnt the cam that sold me I felt the ir blaster was a very unique feature.
What's your reason?
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It's almost like a compulsion. I rarely impulse buy and I can take weeks to finally decide on my purchases. I read reviews, speculations, I memorize the specs of all my choices and compare them. The compulsion part comes in because once I get the idea in my head that I really want something I will find a way to get it; I'll make myself believe I need it... I actually almost hate when it comes time to buy a new toy because I put so much time into the pre-purchase. On the other hand, it's also a type of rush. As far as selling points go, it's usually something small and trivial that makes me decide which way to go. Buying my 1st droid I was torn between an LG Nitro and the GS2. I had my mind made up that I wanted the S2 and while in-store I played with both of them. I liked the LG's screen a little bit better and that was the one I bought. The whole reason I got the S4 is because around January I had decided I was going to buy the S3. I had already worked out a deal with a friend to buy his and everything; then I realized the S4's release was very near. In fact, the purchase of this device was the easiest one I've made in quite some time because I had already done the legwork and research on the S3, The hardest part was waiting for release... then deciding which carrier's version to buy, whether to switch carriers or buy outright, etc etc.

Its better to be addicted to new technology then crack. Haha really though it's a hobby for me. Something I enjoy. One can have the fastest and newest features. Plus I like to learn about new technology and development.
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My current phone, a Galaxy S 1, has super slow NAND, and that affects performance quite alot with newer apps being larger than they were 3 years ago.

I use my phone more than any other device I own. I haven't played my PS3 in months and I barely use my tablet. I chose to buy this device because I wanted to get rid of my Galaxy Nexus before it became obsolete. I work and purchasing something like this does not have an effect on my finances because I can afford my gadgets. I know some people just have to have the latest even if it they have to change their lifestyle in order to do so.
I love customizing my phone, but now that I have this device I don't feel the need to. I wish I had bought the Nexus 4 instead. They have a very active community that is all about helping each other out and they are very loyal to their brand. Seems like most of the people who I have seen in the T-Mobile section are teenagers.
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I'm buying a new phone when my old one breaks or becomes too old/slow/buggy for my needs. And I always buy the top of the line models just because I think they'll serve me longer. For example I don't really need a quad core cpu now, but in 2 years from now it might become a minimum requirement to run Google Maps.

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It's almost like a compulsion. I rarely impulse buy and I can take weeks to finally decide on my purchases. I read reviews, speculations, I memorize the specs of all my choices and compare them. The compulsion part comes in because once I get the idea in my head that I really want something I will find a way to get it; I'll make myself believe I need it... I actually almost hate when it comes time to buy a new toy because I put so much time into the pre-purchase. On the other hand, it's also a type of rush. As far as selling points go, it's usually something small and trivial that makes me decide which way to go. Buying my 1st droid I was torn between an LG Nitro and the GS2. I had my mind made up that I wanted the S2 and while in-store I played with both of them. I liked the LG's screen a little bit better and that was the one I bought. The whole reason I got the S4 is because around January I had decided I was going to buy the S3. I had already worked out a deal with a friend to buy his and everything; then I realized the S4's release was very near. In fact, the purchase of this device was the easiest one I've made in quite some time because I had already done the legwork and research on the S3, The hardest part was waiting for release... then deciding which carrier's version to buy, whether to switch carriers or buy outright, etc etc.
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Feel just like you man. I have had almost 40 different phones in the past few years. Any high end phone I have probably bought....drives the wife crazy. Funny thing is that I'm not an impulse shopper with anything else but phones. I can walk to the AT&T store right now and chances are I'm walking out with something new.....so I try to avoid them lol
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I bought it for the prompt and timely updates from Samsung and T-Mobile.

I'm still in therapy trying to figure out what the cause of this 'have to buy new device sickness' is. I'll post back in a couple of years when I get off the couch
But seriously, I enjoy having a newer version of my current device because it's something new, even if the changes are subtle. But I've always gotten the newer version usually months later, mostly due to not being eligible for a subsidized device under contract for 22 months, for example, with Sprint. But with T-Mobile, I'll be able to get the newer device when available due to their 'No Contract' option with annual eligibility for a new device, and twice a year eligibility for newer devices with the 'Jump' program, although newer versions of the same device, S2-S3 and S3-S4 for example, drop once a year. My last few devices have been Samsung upgrades. But I can change manufactures if the model warrants it, and then it would be possible to upgrade maybe twice a year. But Samsung Galaxy series have been berry, berry good to me
With the above being said, you'll NEVER see me waiting on a line outside the store waiting to get a new device the day it comes out, and obviously you won't see me in a tent overnight or for days on end waiting to be one of the first to get a new device. Now that's a Sickness, imho :silly:
I'll wait a few days or weeks until the device is available without the lines, or when it's back in stock.
Now back to the 'couch' already in session lol!

I bought the phone because I am a huge fan of the newest technology. I skipped on the one simply because the button layout, HTC sense, and the screen being a tiny bit smaller. Having the latest technology intrigues me (and poor impulse control lol) to buy these new gadgets.
As of now I'm really only interested in Samsung and Nexus devices unless something else over shadows those. There's no real good reason for upgrading every time a new phone is available for me. A phone from a year or two ago would suffice but I just have to have the latest and greatest. Its definitely an American mentality.
It's easier to click "thanks" than type it.

I'm still using my Galaxy S1 and after 2.5 years the battery is almost gone.
The phone has become really slow and hangs a lot.
Thus, I just ordered a new S4

I had a LG G2X for over 2 years. Always hated the camera and screen size, but when it first came out it was good. Got slower and slower over the months. Got to the point where if I downloaded an app over 30mb it wouldnt run on the phone so I gave up on it. Looked up all kind of reviews of the S4 for about 2 months before I dished out the cash for it.
The things that one me over were:
Camera
IR Blaster
Performance specs
& Support I THOUGHT it was coming with.

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I bought it for the prompt and timely updates from Samsung and T-Mobile.
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Hahaha. Then you bought it for the wrong reasons. Lol

current phone g2x POS , dead pixel (so line on the screen), intermittent Bluetooth cut out when backlit buttons light up or go out. and general nvidia/lg crappy build support for drivers.
going to s4 on the 16th as soon am my contract is over. root remove bloat and be happy.
i replace a phone when it no longer dose what i need it to do. g2x issues gps / Bluetooth , forced to use stock roms if you want to be able to make calls and having working Bluetooth if you made the mistake of updating the base band to get gps working.....been waiting for my contract to be done for the last 2 months i can almost see the light at the end of the tunnel 8 more days and i can retire the g2x to become a backup mp3 alarm clock and gps nav device...

For me its a hobby to get new phones. I havent use any phone for more than 6 months.
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I LOVE tinkering and twiddling with my devices. I generally keep a phone over a year or until a badly thought out mod kills it, but last phone had next to no development. I kinda splurged on this one. It's my first very high end one and I LOVE it. Made me realize that almost all the mods I've been doing on various phones were to get them closer to the level this one is.

wanna hear a story i work at a cellphone retail store my boss love iphones
the first time i got a phone was a blackberry slow as **** then i went to sprint and got 2 option the 4s or the galaxy s2
i went with the s2 of course i hate iphones
since then i learn about rooting,flashing etc
xda has the best customer service lol
since then i had the s2,s3,note 2 and now the note 3
why i buy samsung phone easy to customize root,removal battery and sd card
im a music junkie and no other phone has what Samsung phones offer,
i play with all new device since i work in a cellphone retail but in the end samsung for me
sorry for my bad english and bad grammar

Well I have always purchased Android phones, and I picked up the Galaxy S4 after my Galaxy Nexus bit the dust.. switched to T-Mobile to get the unlimited data and I've been incredibly happy with them so far

I like to have the it phone so people admire it, and ask me to customize theirs.
To make $ rooting and flashing it has to be a phone a lot of people have.
For me it's been g1, g2, Hercules, s3, s4. Samsung will likely have the next one: s5
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