Or is it longer we have to wait and the less news that is released about the galaxy nexus the less desirable it becomes? How many high end phones have been announced and released since 'the announcement'? Google has got me looking at symbian and meego right now.
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Or is it longer we have to wait and the less news that is released about the galaxy nexus the less desirable it becomes? How many high end phones have been announced and released since 'the announcement'? Google has got me looking at symbian and meego right now.
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I completely agree with you actually. I was 110% for the phone, but now I'm just looking for other phones. The wait is too long
Yeah, I really don't know if I want to continue waiting for the Galaxy Nexus or pick up the SGS II/Motorola Razr...
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I completely agree with you actually. I was 110% for the phone, but now I'm just looking for other phones. The wait is too long
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you guys are big babies. i waited over 6 Months to get the TouchPro 2 way back when, just to be immensely dissapointed in the thing. i bet people who have been waiting for the US Spec SGSII's hated waiting ~6 months to get one as well. and i bet they were happy with the thing.
nothing better (maybe the Note for some) has been actually announced, leaked, maybe. but an actual announcement with a shipment date? haven't heard anything.
It's ok for waiting
I have Nexus S and some other things to enjoy
*looking into my ... ssssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhssssss ...*
I am wanting to get away from this HTC Trophy. This waiting game irks me a damn lot. I still wouldn't want something else, because I don't want to be trapped in the OEM update game.
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Or is it longer we have to wait and the less news that is released about the galaxy nexus the less desirable it becomes? How many high end phones have been announced and released since 'the announcement'? Google has got me looking at symbian and meego right now.
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the day I buy a phone with symbian again i want you to cut off my index fingers.
Not being babies about this. Voicing our opinions and resentment. I think some of us would be less miserable if it was released already and unhappy with how it turned out. Its actually more about the software/os than the hardware/phone for me. I think google borked this time around. Hard.
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nothing better (maybe the Note for some) has been actually announced, leaked, maybe. but an actual announcement with a shipment date? haven't heard anything.
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Exactly, the new rumored HTC Edge blows the GN away in specs. But that's a Q1/Q2 rumored release. Besides, the GN will work great with ICS, no overlay necessary (I'm coming from an HTC and it became painfully obvious that only sense ROMS are 100%.)
Point is, the GN will get outspecced by non Google phones. You gotta decide if you want dev support or better specs.
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Or is it longer we have to wait and the less news that is released about the galaxy nexus the less desirable it becomes? How many high end phones have been announced and released since 'the announcement'? Google has got me looking at symbian and meego right now.
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at least 5+ new phones has been released since
NG slowly fading into the background...
Which statment is more true guys? Is google the next nokia but worse because theyre pushing ~1 phone a year ooooooorr is google showing everybody precisely how to botch the launch of a highly desirable phone?
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I believe in the case there are too many cooks in the kitchen. You have Google on the OS side trying to get ICS ready for the public. Then you have the coordination with a completely separate company, Samsung, who has developed the hardware for their new "flagship" phone. Then you factor in a company like Verison and it becomes a real mess. Now I am not trying to excuse them, I do believe that both Google and Samsung management really missed a trick here and adoption of this phone will now be much slower.
It is also difficult compare Google launching the Nexus to Apple and the iPhone. First, there are mutliple Android handsets launched through out each year versus a single iPhone. And although Android as an OS has a larger footprint worldwide than iOS, it isn't by much and Apple is keeping pace, for now, with a single device. This gives Apple the ability to dictate to carriers how their releases will go, and carriers have to take it. Not so much the case with a single Android device. Samsung and their SGS line could come close in the future given the SGSII sales numbers.
So take it as it is. An uncoordinated launch effort that will result in lesser sales of this device. I for one recently picked up and SGSII and I am loving this device. I was even considering passing on the Galaxy Nexus until I had the chance to play with one over the weekend. The phone, for me, is spectacular.
Can someone tell me when samsung is rumored their next phone. Like an actuall good phone. Cuz I only get samsung phones and they usually only release a couple good phone for each carrier a year. I really dont care about the proxessor or anything so should I get the nexus or the next samsung phone.
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Can someone tell me when samsung is rumored their next phone. Like an actuall good phone. Cuz I only get samsung phones and they usually only release a couple good phone for each carrier a year. I really dont care about the proxessor or anything so should I get the nexus or the next samsung phone.
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The nexus or be patient and keep your ear to the ground through february or so. Should be quite a few more announcements, ics included and newer hardware/generation releases. Im pretty much set on the nexus because of the development community for it. But google sure is making it harder and harder to wait for vaporware until it is officially released.
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I would say the next great phone by Samsung will be the SGS3. Not idea when it will be launched but perhaps we will get some news at CES.
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But google sure is making it harder and harder to wait for vaporware until it is officially released.
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I wouldn't call it Vaporware as it does exist. I played with it over the weekend. Actually a number of Google employees, that's how I got to play with it, have had it for a month or so now and are installing nightly builds on it.
I know i t exists but it is vapor until it is available to the masses. Thus, vaporware.
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I've used Nexus One since January 2010. I love it also because it is not as popular as an iPhone or a SGSI/II. When people see my N1 multicolor led notification call me: "which kind of phone is yours?", "It's a Google developer phone."
Won't be Samsung Galaxy Nexus popular because its launch is very bad (delay, confusion, no spot, ...)? I will be happy because I will be one of the few people to own an official Google developer phone.
This is nothing more than slush! Anyone that actually wants the Galaxy Nexus is going to get it regardless of when it finally hits the market. Google didn’t give a launch date, end of story…meanwhile I’ll keep playing with my SGII and when the Nexus is out I’ll get mine.
Agreed. The wow/newness factory has worn off and I'm just frustrated. Too many alternatives to pick from... too much vague misinformation floating around.
Couldn't agree more with the OP. I just would have gone and bought it within minutes of the announcement if given the option... and here I am now, lurking on Galaxy Note forums for the past few days and now drooling over the rumored HTC Edge (one bada** phone!!).
Heck, I'm even contemplating sticking to my HD2 with Hyperdroid CM7 'coz I just can't find one justifiable fault with the current setup. Bottom line, you are not alone bud
[Edit: Btw, I did purchase two SGS2 in the months gone by and returned them due to inexplicable blue tint at the slightest angle and the fact that the build quality just felt cheap compared to my HD2. Also purchased and sold a Sensation due to poor battery life and a screen that got completely washed when viewed at even slight angles, with no visible difference in resolution from the HD2.
Not too sure that history won't repeat itself and I'll end up being underwhelmed by these devices! Seems unlikely though if I went with the Nexus or the Note. Will wait if the Edge is actually announced with a minimum 1750mAh battery.]
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Where the hell is it? I'm getting really impatient.
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Where the hell is it? I'm getting really impatient.
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For me, where the hell is the Nokia Ace? I'm really looking forward to that phone....
I still hope it will come sooner or later to Europe . Omnia W is nothing far from being "EU version of SFS".
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Omnia W is nothing far from being "EU version of SFS".
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I think this might not be fully correct.
As far as I know Omnia W and Samsung Focus S are going to be 2 completely different devices.
The main differences are said to be:
Omnia W being 3mm THICKER than Focus S
Focus S should have 4.3 " SAMOLED PLUS screen compared to Omnia's 3.7 " SAMOLED
That differences also put them in different price segments of the market which could be easily checked if you compare just revealed prices - If they are not fakes - there is 20% gap between those two.
I keep using my Omnia 7 with broken screen for more than 2 months now waiting for the Focus S - in my opinion competition is miles away (SCREEN!) and has nothing comparable to offer... ;-)
I think the Omnia W is the Focus Flash, not the Focus S
Sorry, I mistypped, I ment to say far from Samsung Focus S, lol
I don't expect to hear much about new phones until Nokia World. Once Nokia has made some announcements I will start to expect more from other OEM's over the month of November leading into the holiday season.
Last year Windows phones launched on Novemeber 8th in the US. I expect thats when these phones will hit retail/carrrier channels.
I can't wait for the Focus S also. I believe it will be the preeminent WP7 phone. It will be WP7's SGS2. I love my current Focus because of the SAMOLED display and owned an Infuse for a little, which I traded for an LE GoW3 XBOX package, and the SAMOLED+ was so impressive. The Focus S will have that same display and the same style as the SGS2/Infuse combined.
http://www.wpcentral.com/ATT-focus-s-revealed
there you go! its official
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http://www.wpcentral.com/ATT-focus-s-revealed
there you go! its official
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Pricing and availabilty, unfortunately, have not yet been announced.
Once again, FAIL. Say what you want about Apple, they announce then release. Done. Once again? When? How much? This is a sad tired song that's killing my love of this platform.
Stop with the amateur crap. Reveal the phones. Demo the phones. Reveal, when, where and how much. Get the phones out to early reviewers. Release the phones, on time. Sit back and watch word of mouth and your platform grow.
It really is that simple.
Any news about this phone? It is going to be, probably, the best WP7 phone in the near future, because of the screen...
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Any news about this phone? It is going to be, probably, the best WP7 phone in the near future, because of the screen...
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I agree. SAMOLED+ and the phone size and style with all of the high-end specs and features and functions will surely make this the prime WP7 phone to have.
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I agree. SAMOLED+ and the phone size and style with all of the high-end specs and features and functions will surely make this the prime WP7 phone to have.
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I love android but Samsung Galaxy Nexus quite disappointed me, so there is a chance to try a WP7 device with this Focus S... and BTW there is a camera button, omg
Two days ago I was told by an ATT employee it should be out in the next 3-4 weeks. It should be out around the same time the focus was last year.
Calm down everyone.
Im thinking around Nov. 7 seeing that Tango will release their app that day for video calling
Wooo-hooo! The Focus S may be coming November 9.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/28/samsung-focus-s-focus-flash-geared-up-for-a-november-6th-releas/
That's great news - thanks for the link - fingers crossed available in the UK not much later. I'm getting RSI repeatedly typing 'Samsung Focus S' into google every morning
Can't wait.
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So it is confirmed to have a 1.5Ghz proc? Will be getting it as soon as it's released in the UK. The Galaxy SII is a fine phone, but I'm looking for a change in OS.
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So it is confirmed to have a 1.5Ghz proc? Will be getting it as soon as it's released in the UK. The Galaxy SII is a fine phone, but I'm looking for a change in OS.
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I thought I read 1.4GHz. But still better than any Android or iPhone.
http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.
that was a fantastic article Dustin put together
Simply brilliant. The article summed up what will undoubtedly become known as the Great GNex Clusterf--k. As pukemon suggested in another thread, the hype is losing steam and potential customers are beginning to look elsewhere. Way to go, Google/Samsung/Verizon!
seems everyone here is forgetting that google will never market the Nexus like the iphone. This phone is for "US". Its not the most anticipated device of the yr, come on. Nexus One, Nexus S, little promotion. They not even trying to compete with the iphone. Its a Tech geek phone. Nobody in the real world knows about it
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http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.
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too little too late indeed
SGS2 took all the spotlight this year
So a few weeks back i decided i was going to buy the latest greatest phone, which i have never done before. I did a little research and decided i would get the galaxy nexus when it came out, and to my surprise in just a couple of months lucky me!
I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.
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too little too late indeed
SGS2 took all the spotlight this year
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And as soon as the new year comes in we'll all be anticipating the SGS3.
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So a few weeks back i decided i was going to buy the latest greatest phone, which i have never done before. I did a little research and decided i would get the galaxy nexus when it came out, and to my surprise in just a couple of months lucky me!
I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.
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I think the frustration. Is mostly due to the lack of info not the actual release
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Looking on the bright side, more devices announced with "better" specs mean the price for Nexus can't be too high, or people would turn away from it and buy phones with the same high price but "better" specs. Google/Samsung will reduce the price to make it competitive with recently announced phones.
I feel the same way. Google dropped the ball. I hope they go with HTC for the next Nexus
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what the **** is the deal with the google/samsung/"verizon??"
its already been anounced that it wont be a verizon exclusive
The Nexus meant to be a guideline for where Google wants the direction of Android to go on phones and a baseline for developers to target. If Google tried to make it into the pinnacle of Android they would likely upset all their OEMs. Google doesn’t want to compete with the companies which are distributing their platform.
Neither Google nor Samsung really wants the Nexus to be a big seller, they just want it as a marketing tool. As for Verizon…who cares?
I agree. It's the details that are driving me nuts! I returned my GS2 before my 30 days were up, and I really liked the phone. I went back to using my Nexus One, and boy does it suck to go so far back. I've almost thrown it twice! I've always enjoyed the Nexus line due to pure android and quick updates.
I scour the internet multiple times every day for the past few weeks. I just want to know the bloody launch date for the US, where I can buy it, and whether or not the US will get the HSPA+ version right away? Is that so much to ask for?
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I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.
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if you are into games, you should seriously reconsider
most games out there are develop for the Exynos (Hummingbird) CPU
if you go for this phone, your choices of good games will be greatly chopped in 50% or more
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if you are into games, you should seriously reconsider
most games out there are develop for the Exynos (Hummingbird) CPU
if you go for this phone, your choices of good games will be greatly chopped in 50% or more
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If he's that into games, he probably wants something with a keyboard/mouse or a controller
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http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.
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Great article. Now people have no idea about when the phone will be released and how much it will be. We are even not sure about if we can get a unlocked version when the phone is launched. Google has the worst marketing team IMO, they failed chrome book now they are trying to fail nexus again.
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If Google tried to make it into the pinnacle of Android they would likely upset all their OEMs.
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The Nexus One did exactly that. It was for it's time the pinnacle and it did upset OEMs. Even so, the Android world is better for it.
I personally think that they should have released a spec monster and "encouraged" OEMs to try to exceed it.
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Great article. Now people have no idea about when the phone will be released and how much it will be. We are even not sure about if we can get a unlocked version when the phone is launched. Google has the worst marketing team IMO, they failed chrome book now they are trying to fail nexus again.
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well at least with any Nexus phone you are Guaranteed 100% Unlocked, and easy Root via stock Bootloader
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well at least with any Nexus phone you are Guaranteed 100% Unlocked, and easy Root via stock Bootloader
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yes, that is the point I am trying to make. A nexus is always unlocked, with the most updated Android system But a company like Google should not have such a poor marketing strategy: The HK event grabs everyone's eyeballs, but no body has any idea about the release date for the GSM version in US at all. Verizon may get it before or after TG; the launch of UK GN may be delayed; Verizon may have an exclusion period, etc. There are too many rumors because Google itself have no idea about its own product.
However, I will get a GN, I really want the ICS
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Looking on the bright side, more devices announced with "better" specs mean the price for Nexus can't be too high, or people would turn away from it and buy phones with the same high price but "better" specs. Google/Samsung will reduce the price to make it competitive with recently announced phones.
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I'm suffering because my wife's N1 died and she's eyeing mine. She doesn't want "huge" screen and was looking for a used N1 so I found one for her...mine as soon as I can get a new phone. So, I'm in a bind.
I've put a line in the sand. December 1st I'm buying an SGS2 or whatever else non-Moto is top of the line at the time.
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I agree. It's the details that are driving me nuts! I returned my GS2 before my 30 days were up, and I really liked the phone. I went back to using my Nexus One, and boy does it suck to go so far back. I've almost thrown it twice! I've always enjoyed the Nexus line due to pure android and quick updates.
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I think that most of the people interested in the Galaxy Nexus could care less about the pure android experience. Don't we all root/ROM our phones? I rooted my N1 less than 24hrs after buying it and haven't looked back.
Since the SGS2 is already rooted and ROM'd, I don't care at all about the actual OS. ICS will be coming to the SGS2, question is will it come via ROM kitchen or OTA update. Either way, I'd be happy. Of course I'd be happier with the GN, but at this point I'm so frustrated with the lack of information that I'm buying whatever is available with the best hardware on December 1st.
I've searched back a few pages but couldn't find, what date is this suppose to be released here in the US on Verizon?
Hasn't been announced yet. I've seen on various blogs that it should be week of 21st.
The rumor I'm holding to right now is the 21st. The Google contest seems to corroborate this.
Android Forums has a thread about the release date for Verizon and Droid Life has a leaked product release schedule (sorry, can't post links)
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The rumor I'm holding to right now is the 21st. The Google contest seems to corroborate this.
Android Forums has a thread about the release date for Verizon and Droid Life has a leaked product release schedule (sorry, can't post links)
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well the 21st would make a lot of sense.
They released the razor on the 11th (probably moved it back to Friday instead of monday because they thought it was cute to do the 11/11/11 thing)
then today on the 14th the rezound comes out, so a full week for that to sell and then the Nexus releases in time for holiday shopping. Hope it's true, I'm pumped for this phone.
latest rumor/update speculates 12/1...
We don't know. Most assume early next week.
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latest rumor/update speculates 12/1...
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I am going to say false on the delay (opinion only). If there were big enough problems with the phone, then google would not have just released the source code. If it turns out to be true it is a marketing ploy to sell more razers and rezounds. I hope it is still releasing soon.
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I am going to say false on the delay (opinion only). If there were big enough problems with the phone, then google would not have just released the source code. If it turns out to be true it is a marketing ploy to sell more razers and rezounds. I hope it is still releasing soon.
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Just remember that on top of everything Samsung/Google are putting into the HSPA+ version, Verizon has to add their own network stack for CDMA/LTE and is notoriously long in the tooth on testing devices and software. I would not be surprised at all if there is a slight delay with the LTE version.
theandroidsite.com/2011/11/14/verizon-samsung-galaxy-nexus-spotted-amazon-priced-249-coming-1-2-weeks/
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According to another rumor it's going to be released on the 18th.
http://phandroid.com/2011/11/14/mor...s-will-be-released-this-friday-november-18th/
The Verizon store manager I talked to seems to confirm the rumor that it's pushed back to December. Not surprising since Verizon does take a long time to test devices on their network before releasing them, and might just explain why they still won't give us a date - the testing isn't done, so even they don't know.
Does anyone have an update on this or is it sill unknown?
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Only thing known is Google/samsung screwed up.
Worst launch of a hyped device in recent memory.
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Only thing known is Google/samsung screwed up.
Worst launch of a hyped device in recent memory.
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How, exactly, is that known? Nobody knows *what* is happening yet. Nobody knows when it was scheduled to launch, nor do they know when it will. Right now everything you hear is rumors...nothing is *known*.
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How, exactly, is that known? Nobody knows *what* is happening yet. Nobody knows when it was scheduled to launch, nor do they know when it will. Right now everything you hear is rumors...nothing is *known*.
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I think everyone KNOWS Samsung/Google screwed up.
Not sure whats hard to comprehend about that. A huge opportunity was lost to make Galaxy Nexus a household name and steal a huge spotlight from iOS/iPhone4s. The fact there is no schedule and no dates is WHY they screwed up.
You do NOT run product launches like this. Especially after making a friggin event out of it.
They said it would be available in November... So far, that is accurate. While I too am a little annoyed, I think that's just due to my own impatience.
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I think everyone KNOWS Samsung/Google screwed up.
Not sure whats hard to comprehend about that. A huge opportunity was lost to make Galaxy Nexus a household name and steal a huge spotlight from iOS/iPhone4s. The fact there is no schedule and no dates is WHY they screwed up.
You do NOT run product launches like this. Especially after making a friggin event out of it.
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Well i have to disagree with you on that. I dont think voogle is trying to make a household name. Maybe samsung is but theyre only the manufacturer here. Google has messed up though by keeping us in the dark. They were more transparent and punctual before but the only official thing that came out was uk on the 17th and they have done that. But damn them for not giving us more details about unlocked hspa+ versions. And as much as i hate they gave verizon exclusivity in thedark usa, theyre even being mum with that.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.
To fdm1: I recollect it was a little more honked up than that. Originally was said to be released about the same time as the new iphone, then a Google media announcement was set for early Oct got delayed for this reason and that and mid Oct was a surprise announcement in Hong Kong with little information release. The presentation was buggy, no info re: VZN, no estimates on pricing, no estimates on release dates, etc. And today a 16gb version is released in the UK but still no official word of a release date, pricing, or device specifics for the US.
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I think everyone KNOWS Samsung/Google screwed up.
Not sure whats hard to comprehend about that. A huge opportunity was lost to make Galaxy Nexus a household name and steal a huge spotlight from iOS/iPhone4s. The fact there is no schedule and no dates is WHY they screwed up.
You do NOT run product launches like this. Especially after making a friggin event out of it.
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I completely disagree with you.
Google has no interest in making the Nexus line a house-hold name. Every Nexus launch has seen minimal advertising and a lower-number of units sold than most other high-profile phones.
What Google does with the Nexus line is give people that want a vanilla Android experience the chance to have just that. They aren't trying to "steal a huge spotlight" from Apple...
And there's no set "way" to run product launches. It's their company, their product, and they can do whatever they want with it. You might not like it, but that doesn't mean they messed up...it just means they didn't do what you wanted them to do.
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I completely disagree with you.
Google has no interest in making the Nexus line a house-hold name. Every Nexus launch has seen minimal advertising and a lower-number of units sold than most other high-profile phones.
What Google does with the Nexus line is give people that want a vanilla Android experience the chance to have just that. They aren't trying to "steal a huge spotlight" from Apple...
And there's no set "way" to run product launches. It's their company, their product, and they can do whatever they want with it. You might not like it, but that doesn't mean they messed up...it just means they didn't do what you wanted them to do.
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You're kidding, right? Of course there's a way to properly run product launches and Apple is the model for it. They started that whole format of how companies now launch their major tech products. In some large room, inviting major media and tech bloggers, on a stage, with "cool" slides and demo's of what their product is capable of. Followed by snappy and eye catching ad's/marketing campaign and even an "accidental/unauthorized release of said tech" if they really want to drum up publicity.
You don't do what Google/Samsung has done. Talk about this great and awesome phone with the cutting edge OS with a cool name for a month or so. Leak enough details over the summer to get your base interested, then change the name, say nothing about the price or release date, and then expect to make a big impact on the market.
Lastly, they haven't done what ANYBODY has wanted so far with this launch. So you can't single out one person and say it's what he didn't want. I'd bet just about anything that no one who was (or is still) interested in this phone wanted what we've gotten from Google/Samsung and Verizon so far. I didn't sign up on that stupid launch page for Google to tease me with pictures or tell me 24hrs before the phone drops that it's actually coming out.
I say reluctantly, because I want WP to be awesome. I want to stay with it, but I just can't do this 'basic' thing anymore. The colours are so dreadfully boring, there's no WP8 support for my device, Zune software sucks ass. I miss being able to just drag and drop into my music folder. Why complicate it needlessly with restrictive software? How many "new" colours will there be? 4? Android used to be laggy, but it's not anymore. Why is there no speed dial? (Yes there's an app for that, but I live in a border city, the only dialer app that displays my network is the native one, and I need to see it). There's no DLNA app (The LG one? Sorry, that's not a working app, that's just some user interface that pretends to be a DLNA app), and the battery. My freakin gosh the battery. I'd get better battery life out of a lemon and copper wire. 99% gives me 12 hours, that's if I close all apps and leave it alone for the day. I own three chargers (work, car, home), and mine is only a 3.5" screen! What if I had went with the HD7??
These alleged WP8 handsets that are coming out, will they be on par with even 2010 tech? Probably not. I'm so underwhelmed by just everything. My bro-in-law has the Note, and it's insane. Super AMOLED HD screen, xvid/h-264 support, HD out, etc. And it's already outdated almost. The Note 2 will be announced tomorrow, and then hopefully soon available here in Canada.
These are old talking points, I know. I've been reading/lurking this board since before WP came out. It's been hashed out time and again. And it doesn't even matter. What matters is what will please you/me the most. What do you care which platform I go with? I'm not bashing anything, just verbalizing my internal dialogue trying to decide. I was a pioneer with this platform, it pains me, I wanted it to be awesome, but it's just not fully functional. "But wait for the next update" worked a year ago, not this time. WP8 will be undercooked and a day late.
The desktop Windows 8 looks like a disaster of Titanic/watergate proportions. I don't want my device to in any way require that... thing of an OS. They missed the point. They may have started with simplicity in mind, but they're far from it now.
I'm due now for an upgrade, but it's not required, so I'm probably waiting until after Christmas to give time for all the iPhone5/Note2/WP8's of the world to be fully released and reviewed.
Anyone else feeling like this?
to my understanding, there's no/not too much heat on new android devices because almost every month(if not every week) there're some new android devices released to the market. You will always find better device if you hold just a little bit, just a little. but for the iPhone or the coming WP8, it'll be quite a long time before you will see a real update, the next release cycle, one year or something. So, before you see those, why jump now?
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to my understanding, there's no/not too much heat on new android devices because almost every month(if not every week) there're some new android devices released to the market. You will always find better device if you hold just a little bit, just a little. but for the iPhone or the coming WP8, it'll be quite a long time before you will see a real update, the next release cycle, one year or something. So, before you see those, why jump now?
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Yeah that's been the ongoing joke about the iPhone forever. And Android is definitely doing that lately.
There's certain features I really need to have in my next device. The Note has all of them. If the Note 2 dials some back, then I'll just go with the Note 1 and save some cash. If you can wait a couple months and get a little bit bigger screen, why not right?
Wait until Jan/Feb. Im expecting Microsoft to really step up with WP8 or Im gone also. I really dont like Android, but I might be out of options.
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Wait until Jan/Feb. Im expecting Microsoft to really step up with WP8 or Im gone also. I really dont like Android, but I might be out of options.
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I have a A500 running 4.0.3 I think, it works fine, but I ran into a lot crashes and problems too. I think I'm very open on which OS to use, the cheapest I think I got my Windows Phone Arrive for free, absolutely free, not even activation fee, so that's why I'm with WP7. But in fact, if I jump on the new release iPhone 5, but sell it, profits.
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This is not a flame but a genuine question. Why not wait and see what RIM come up with? I got my HTC Titan because I like the look and style of win 7 and realy do not like Iphone or Andriod and yes i have had an Andriod and my girlfriend has my Iphone 4. I too feel there is just too much missing from win7 and am due an upgrade about November so if RIM can manage to sort out there act i might give it a try.Remember how things were for apple a few years ago when they were talking about just selling the company
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^ waiting on RIM, it'll be sometime next year before an actual device is released.
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I just sold a GS3. Damn beastly phone, the best I ever had. I didn't even mind Touch wiz. I had it for one full day before selling it, that home button just ruined the experience for me though.
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What vetvito said. Blackberry won't have BB10 out until like Q2 2013. As well as that, I'm just not interested in the last hurrah of a sinking company. It will probably be pretty limited. I'm just getting done with a 'new' platform, I'd like to be with something that's worked in.
Yes exactly my thoughts also on RIM. I dont want to switch to an OS that most likely will not be around anymore in few years. Before Nokia announced MS partnership I was expecting Meego to be the thing for me. I really hope hope WP8 is meeting my expectations and I wouldnt have to move to Android.
My suggestion would also be to simply wait what Microsoft's partners and Apple are bringing to the table next month. If you wait until december you should have all the options aside from RIM for whom I personally would not wait.
The Note is a nice phone in theory but the only one I know who owns one is telling me permanently about the newest strangeness it decides on doing (guess it's simply his device that's acting up - at least I hope so).
On the hardware front I'm not that concerned over WP8. The release handsets were announced to all feature Qualcomms Snapdragon S4 Plus chipsets which, even though being dual core instead of quad, offer better performance than the Tegra 3 and Samsungs own Quadcore-Chips due to the Krait-Architecture by Qualcomm. It's the same chip the LTE-Versions of the HTC One X and Galaxy S3 currently use. HD displays are also a go with WP8.
The biggest question will be WP8 features and it seems we will know whats coming there in one week.
I do see the point in waiting, but I just got myself a Focus S and its the dogs bollocks
I think what most users need to do is actually sit down and find out what they want from their phone.
apart from being able to install customs ROMs this phone does everything I want it to and it looks amazing so for me its ideal, waiting for a WP8 device may seem prudent just now but again, what do you actually want it to do, WP8 will bring new features but do you really NEED them or is it a case of "yeah that would be cool to have" if its the latter than you are buying it for the wrong reason.
theres too much focus on tech and not enough on actual usability. I can promise you that no android or Iphone will be better for my needs at the moment, not because I know every single device out there but because I know what I need my phone for, and the Focus S ticks all the boxes
So that's my advice, sit down, and write down what your phone MUST do, not what youd like it to do but MUST do, once you find a phone that does all of those things weigh up costs etc yes WP8 will be out soon, but do you NEED it, the answer may be no, but the flip side is that WP7 devices will drop in price so perhaps that's your best option.....anyhow, just food for thought
At the end of the day, it is just a phone. Doesn't matter what OS you buy into but this time around, don't buy a phone which "looks" good or "feels" good.
I would suggest trying out the phone and functions to your heart's content before parting with your money. Like everyone else, I am playing a waiting game before I invest my cash on any OS. This Christmas Santa will be pretty confused too!
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I do see the point in waiting, but I just got myself a Focus S and its the dogs bollocks
I think what most users need to do is actually sit down and find out what they want from their phone.
apart from being able to install customs ROMs this phone does everything I want it to and it looks amazing so for me its ideal, waiting for a WP8 device may seem prudent just now but again, what do you actually want it to do, WP8 will bring new features but do you really NEED them or is it a case of "yeah that would be cool to have" if its the latter than you are buying it for the wrong reason.
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MY WORDS! WP8 has some new features, but 80% of the world does not use NFC. look at Europe or Asia, have somebody seen some NFC around? the same thing, even worse is with east Europe. ok the better screen and the developer could make apps for WP8 in c++ but that not that big deal for the mayor of us. the problem is Other operating systems like Android made the WP7 users to WISH better specs. that's the problem, like an virus thats now in the heads of a few WP7 users. my WP7 does everything what i need to have from a phone right now, and for the next one, two years! like you stated people think of WP8 "yeah that and that feature would be cool to have" but i will never use it. i say lets wait until 7.8 and the new start screen, it looks and feels like the WP8. ok we dont get wallet and such thing, but wallet i dont need, i have a real wallet made out from leather the only thing whats not so good for wp7 is that voip agent can not run in background like the GSM service. so that would be an WP8 feature why i would switch, but not right now, maybe next year when the devices would be around 300-400€ in Germany.
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ok the better screen and the developer could make apps for WP8 in c++ but that not that big deal for the mayor of us.
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I disagree on some of these points. Higher screen resolutions and native code are very important features. Native code enables easier porting of apps from iOS and Android (not to mention more similarity between WP8 and Windows RT) and should make these apps faster / more responsive. Having a choice of a retina display would also be nice
It would also be nice to have some bug fixes, which is more likely to happen on WP8. Tango seemed to break podcast management for some of us, in addition to a few other niggles (e.g. why can't I edit the original email after pressing reply / forward?, volume normalisation issues etc). The overall experience is good - however, there seem to be several rough edges in WP7.
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I do see the point in waiting, but I just got myself a Focus S and its the dogs bollocks
I think what most users need to do is actually sit down and find out what they want from their phone.
apart from being able to install customs ROMs this phone does everything I want it to and it looks amazing so for me its ideal, waiting for a WP8 device may seem prudent just now but again, what do you actually want it to do, WP8 will bring new features but do you really NEED them or is it a case of "yeah that would be cool to have" if its the latter than you are buying it for the wrong reason.
theres too much focus on tech and not enough on actual usability. I can promise you that no android or Iphone will be better for my needs at the moment, not because I know every single device out there but because I know what I need my phone for, and the Focus S ticks all the boxes
So that's my advice, sit down, and write down what your phone MUST do, not what youd like it to do but MUST do, once you find a phone that does all of those things weigh up costs etc yes WP8 will be out soon, but do you NEED it, the answer may be no, but the flip side is that WP7 devices will drop in price so perhaps that's your best option.....anyhow, just food for thought
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Hmm good thoughts, but I disagree.
With things as luxurious as cell phones, the wants are what's most important. Cause if you go by "needs", then I'll be getting a simple feature phone, or a low end Android. Because I don't care who you are, no one needs resolution even as high as 800x480. What I "need" are email and text capabilities. I think the RAZR circa 2004 had that.
What I want is not what WP can provide right now. I know HD screens are approved, but welcome to 2011, as we head into 2013. They'll always be a step behind. Will WP8 have HDMI out? x264 support? Working DLNA? wifi hotspot? Doing away with software and just allowing drag and drop? Motion (press screen and move your hand around)?
I've been to the threads and looked at the features we've seen so far and it's just what should have been included in October 2010. The saying "wait for the next update", has been given as an excuse for every single update.
Just waiting now for news of the Note 2. Berlin is like 5 hours ahead of EST isn't it? I would've thought it'd be revealed by now.
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Ah, it's 1pm for the reveal. Leaked pictures look pretty sick.
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Yes exactly my thoughts also on RIM. I dont want to switch to an OS that most likely will not be around anymore in few years. Before Nokia announced MS partnership I was expecting Meego to be the thing for me. I really hope hope WP8 is meeting my expectations and I wouldnt have to move to Android.
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Seriously, it would be nice to be with a solid performer.
Meego looked cool, and Bada looked promising as well. C'est la vie I guess.
Android really has come a long way
Personally I didn't really like stock Android without sense till ics. It changed everything. Battery is meh compared to I phone, but with a custom kernel I can get ~12 hours with 1-2 hours screen on if I stick with lte. With jb its really smooth too I'd recommend a Nexus if you want os support. I have an HTC Rezound and htc is really poor with updates. If you are willing to root a toro/maguro will be supported for years. If not, you should at least get a year more of updates since the phone came out last November.
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^ it'll get more than a year of support. Nexus S, two years old still getting love.
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Seriously, it would be nice to be with a solid performer.
Meego looked cool, and Bada looked promising as well. C'est la vie I guess.
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The N9 meego was awesome. Samsung killed Bada due to poor sales, but it sold more than WP7.
I'm wanting to see what the Jolla guys do later this year.
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Hmm good thoughts, but I disagree.
With things as luxurious as cell phones, the wants are what's most important. Cause if you go by "needs", then I'll be getting a simple feature phone, or a low end Android. Because I don't care who you are, no one needs resolution even as high as 800x480. What I "need" are email and text capabilities. I think the RAZR circa 2004 had that.
What I want is not what WP can provide right now. I know HD screens are approved, but welcome to 2011, as we head into 2013. They'll always be a step behind. Will WP8 have HDMI out? x264 support? Working DLNA? wifi hotspot? Doing away with software and just allowing drag and drop? Motion (press screen and move your hand around)?
I've been to the threads and looked at the features we've seen so far and it's just what should have been included in October 2010. The saying "wait for the next update", has been given as an excuse for every single update.
Just waiting now for news of the Note 2. Berlin is like 5 hours ahead of EST isn't it? I would've thought it'd be revealed by now.
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Ah, it's 1pm for the reveal. Leaked pictures look pretty sick.
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Ah but usability is the main point here, HDMI, x264, DLNA, NFC are all features that are completely meaningless for many of us, you are absolutely right that a feature phone from 2004 would have done all that I need, but my phone does it better, quicker and a lot more efficiently! but that is my point if you NEED HDMI then that becomes a tick box that must be met, if it is a "oh that's a cool feature" then it shouldn't be a main tick box otherwise you'll be a mug for marketing and end up spending more on stuff you don't NEED.
All those folk out there with quad core phones are a prime example, slapping a quad core in my phone will make absolutely no difference at all in the slightest and I question anyone that doesn't play games or encode video on there phone to tell me that it does make a difference, its a great marketing tool though, its QUAD core guys, its X4 better than a single core, you MUST have this, and people lap it up, hook line and sinker
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HDMI, x264, DLNA, NFC are all features that are completely meaningless for many of us
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:good:
I am completely satisfied with my HD7 and NextGen 3.3 ROM, two things I miss in everyday life: Teamviewer and how to KILL SMS toast notification...
Anyone else not a fan of how Samsung is on overdrive with the different models, colors and variants of our S4 so quickly after the initial release? It's a little insulting. I know it happened with the S3, to an extent, but over a much longer timeframe... You buy the phone when it is released only to find out that now, less than 3 months after its release, there are multiple models and even talk of an advanced 4G LTE model with updated snapdragon 800 inside. I understand that it's essentially impossible to have the newest, bleeding-edge cell phone, but to release an "updated model" less than a few months after the initial release is a huge slap in the face.
The new colors and the active weren't a big shocker to me since I'd rather have a good screen and specs than a bit more durable device. The mega wasn't much to me either but the S4 Advanced is.. Even though tmobile barely just got lte now it wouldn't have too much function besides the new process but still.. Id like to have some safety in buying something new and not having buyers remorse for not waiting for the next best thing so soon.
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Anyone else not a fan of how Samsung is on overdrive with the different models, colors and variants of our S4 so quickly after the initial release? It's a little insulting. I know it happened with the S3, to an extent, but over a much longer timeframe... You buy the phone when it is released only to find out that now, less than 3 months after its release, there are multiple models and even talk of an advanced 4G LTE model with updated snapdragon 800 inside. I understand that it's essentially impossible to have the newest, bleeding-edge cell phone, but to release an "updated model" less than a few months after the initial release is a huge slap in the face.
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I want a device that gives me a sense of security of having the top support. For Samsung to immediately dump us like this could be their weakest point. I just bought it a week ago and to hear something new may be coming just pisses me off. No wonder I was considering apple
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*shudder* no, my friend, you still chose wisely. The S4 is an amazing phone, and I love it. I'm mostly just making a comment on how I don't like the direction Samsung is going... They're getting very greedy and flooding the market with S4 labeled everything....it's a sure-fire way to turn people off to the brand. And if this advanced version comes to light and is released shortly, then this will be my last Samsung branded phone. I bought an S4 because I thought it would be Samsung's flagship top-tier smartphone, but apparently it is already obsolete after two months. This would be welcome if a competitor released a phone that wiped the floor with the S4, but to have the same manufacturer do it....that's simply a greedy, consumer-alienating move.
It almost feels like they're punishing the early adopters.
"See all the cool **** we could've put in your phone but chose not to?"
im really pissed about the s4 advanced. its a huge screw you to those of us who bought the phone in may. its only been what, a month and a half? Not to mention that us 16 gig users got especially boned. Isnt this rapid release cycle one of the contributing factors of htc's slow suicide? this may very well be the last samsung phone i buy. ive been eyeing the sony experia line for a while. Time to do some research
I might go with the iPhone
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Really? Am I missing something? It's just a S4 with LTE Advanced which no carrier to date in the US has announced plans of rolling out yet. We are arguably leading the LTE rollout and our two largest carriers aren't even done with it yet, much less the #3 and #4 carriers. T-Mobile is the one that's best poised to go to LTE Advanced but I'd say they have enough on their hands finishing their LTE rollout.
Samsung has recently showed that with the S3, they are supporting their older platforms with the leaked (and should be soon to be official) release of 4.2.2.
Other than that, how does the S4 Advanced make the regular S4 obsolete in any way? Exactly how much faster is browsing going to be at anything over 10, 15, 20 mbps? I'd bet most of you guys aren't getting that on your home broadband connections.
As for the S4 Active and the different colors, well, there were a lot of rumors of the S4 active before it was released and really, the new colors should have been expected by early adopters.
I'm not saying what Samsung is doing is perfect but, let's be honest here, the release of the S4 Advanced changes nothing about the S4 being the fastest phone you can buy today. What else did they change that you guys feel so left out about? They changed the modem and it supports a technology that to my knowledge there are 11 cell sites somewhere in Russia use as an experiment. Haha, I'm sorry but I just don't get the concern.
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Really? Am I missing something? It's just a S4 with LTE Advanced which no carrier to date in the US has announced plans of rolling out yet. We are arguably leading the LTE rollout and our two largest carriers aren't even done with it yet, much less the #3 and #4 carriers. T-Mobile is the one that's best poised to go to LTE Advanced but I'd say they have enough on their hands finishing their LTE rollout.
Samsung has recently showed that with the S3, they are supporting their older platforms with the leaked (and should be soon to be official) release of 4.2.2.
Other than that, how does the S4 Advanced make the regular S4 obsolete in any way? Exactly how much faster is browsing going to be at anything over 10, 15, 20 mbps? I'd bet most of you guys aren't getting that on your home broadband connections.
As for the S4 Active and the different colors, well, there were a lot of rumors of the S4 active before it was released and really, the new colors should have been expected by early adopters.
I'm not saying what Samsung is doing is perfect but, let's be honest here, the release of the S4 Advanced changes nothing about the S4 being the fastest phone you can buy today. What else did they change that you guys feel so left out about? They changed the modem and it supports a technology that to my knowledge there are 11 cell sites somewhere in Russia use as an experiment. Haha, I'm sorry but I just don't get the concern.
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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
exasperating
I can't keep up with samsung too, when s3 came out I just bought my s2 couple of months ago which is really irritating, I have yet to enjoy the features of this awesome smart phone and next thing I knew my friends are buying s3 like it's going out of style..
The issue isn't a slight increase in browsing speed. Or even that the new snapdragon is a faster processor (although that's upsetting) . It's the principle of it. You don't release a product and then release an updated version of the same product barely two months later. It doesn't speak well of the company's loyalty to their consumers. Do you think anyone is going to rush out and buy any future phones from Samsung? No, because they've proven that within a month or so they will push out another "updated" version of the same phone. This wasn't meant to start an argument between the readers of these forums, it was simply my opinion of what I consider poor business practices of Samsung.
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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
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Do you really think it will be a big difference for real-world performance? So far the biggest factor in performance for the s4 seems to be software optimization.
Anyhow, I hear what you're saying. But, no matter what phone you buy these days, there is always a better one around the corner.
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Do you really think it will be a big difference for real-world performance? So far the biggest factor in performance for the s4 seems to be software optimization.
Anyhow, I hear what you're saying. But, no matter what phone you buy these days, there is always a better one around the corner.
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I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
People, we can spend our lives and money chasing the "next big shiny thing" if that's your deal...but let's be honest with ourselves - even with the S4 Advanced being a slightly more powerful model of our current GS4, the gap won't be enough to justify shelling out another 600+ bucks to buy the latest new phone IMO.
We can hate on Samsung all we want, but one thing I respect about the company is their willingness to continuously innovate - kinda like Google.
So long as the GS4 remains well supported (and T-Mobile finally releases the bloody update) - I've got no complaints. My GS4 is the tits, and I doubt I'll need a new phone for quite some time (want is another story entirely).
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I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
People, we can spend our lives and money chasing the "next big shiny thing" if that's your deal...but let's be honest with ourselves - even with the S4 Advanced being a slightly more powerful model of our current GS4, the gap won't be enough to justify shelling out another 600+ bucks to buy the latest new phone IMO.
We can hate on Samsung all we want, but one thing I respect about the company is their willingness to continuously innovate - kinda like Google.
So long as the GS4 remains well supported (and T-Mobile finally releases the bloody update) - I've got no complaints. My GS4 is the tits, and I doubt I'll need a new phone for quite some time (want is another story entirely).
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Say, what update referring to? Do you mean the US equivalent of the update they recently received in Europe? If so, yeah I want to check that out.
When I was on Sprint, we had a leak-God named Sextape. Sextape would very generously provide Odin files of new leaks, sometimes months before actual release. So far I haven't seen a Dev like that on the T-Mobile side of things.
But I'm still hoping to "meet"such a Dev.
You guys should already know this is going to happen. When you buy a new phone, there's always going to be a new one coming out. With the person saying they bought an s2 then s3 came out in few months. You should already know it was coming out, it happens every year. You don't buy a new phone after months of being released then complain about it when a new one came out
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Say, what update referring to? Do you mean the US equivalent of the update they recently received in Europe? If so, yeah I want to check that out.
When I was on Sprint, we had a leak-God named Sextape. Sextape would very generously provide Odin files of new leaks, sometimes months before actual release. So far I haven't seen a Dev like that on the T-Mobile side of things.
But I'm still hoping to "meet"such a Dev.
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Yes, I'm referring to the International G4 update. There's a T-Mobile leak available, but from what I understand it's buggy.
I was on ET4G as well, and Sextape is awesome.
This argument seems moot. Do you even think T-Mobile would pick up the S4 Advance? I very highly doubt it. If what you really wanted was the "best", why not shell out the money for the international version with octa-core back in May? Because of the lack of LTE is my guess, but T-Mobile's LTE coverage is so sparse it seems pointless.
This variant will remain well supported into the future - as far as smartphone lifespans go. This is not the HTC One story. HTC kept releasing variants because there were crappy flaws and they couldn't get it right.
We all seem to be pretty well plugged into the rumor mill, so news and, based on history, the expectation of color variants should've been no surprise. And the Active has been known for quite some time. We are a "Want it now!" group which is why we couldn't even wait a month for the initial price drop.
If you really need the Snapdragon 800, you can still commanda premium for this phone on ebay to pay your way. But, I would think the development is going to be very sparse compared to this one - FAR fewer people will have that phone. Hell, right now we can run any rom from any carrier, plus the international 9505.
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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
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Would you rather not have the option? "Big improvement in real world performance and smoothness" - I just can't see how a 1.9Ghz quad core processor in a phone is holding you back.
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The issue isn't a slight increase in browsing speed. Or even that the new snapdragon is a faster processor (although that's upsetting) . It's the principle of it. You don't release a product and then release an updated version of the same product barely two months later. It doesn't speak well of the company's loyalty to their consumers. Do you think anyone is going to rush out and buy any future phones from Samsung? No, because they've proven that within a month or so they will push out another "updated" version of the same phone. This wasn't meant to start an argument between the readers of these forums, it was simply my opinion of what I consider poor business practices of Samsung.
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Nothing has been released. There isn't even any talk about this phone being released in the US or even when it could be released. If I was a betting man I'd say it would be somewhere at or near when other 5" phones are getting the snapdragon 800........ which is......... uh, not announced by anyone yet.
se1000 said:
Would you rather not have the option? "Big improvement in real world performance and smoothness" - I just can't see how a 1.9Ghz quad core processor in a phone is holding you back.
Nothing has been released. There isn't even any talk about this phone being released in the US or even when it could be released. If I was a betting man I'd say it would be somewhere at or near when other 5" phones are getting the snapdragon 800........ which is......... uh, not announced by anyone yet.
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Exactly and korea is getting this first the u.s. will not see this until next year at the earliest. There are no advanced lte networks in place yet but guess who will be in the best shape for it....Tmobile because they have the newest lte equipment out there that there are using now across the country. So I am not mad at them it would have been a different story if it was coming now but it's still awhile before we see it. I am more pissed off about the lack of internal space and not being moving apps to sd card. Hope we get the same update to fix this soon like the intetnational model. That's my only beef right now.
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I dont think the op is out to chase the next best thing but rather, the business aspect of samsung.
But hey, Lt advance, and w.e spec is being added to the phone doesn't really bother me if i dont have it. My phone is blazing fast. With AOSP/AOKP it runs faster than my finger can catch up because of the specs it currently have. Infamous manage to squeeze 5+ hours of battery life out of it and evil managed to make it as smooth as silk.
So I am not complaining , if i say I will be chasing the next best thing with my money as someone of you clearly have that mindset going on in here, I will be more broke than my two years old baby cousin. If not broke, will just walk around with that green envious eyes and no one got time for that, clearly im too lazy for that. It is differenty if you got the s2 than the s3 came out (the obvious difference in the phone is MINDBLOWING)
But from the s4 lt..to s4 lt advance, water proof s4, to w.e else s4 is out there...I'm good. I can still sleep at night knowing my phone is better than 7/8 of my whole block if it is about being satisfy with the next being thing.