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Sprint TP2 confirmed! Pictures included

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-sprint-spotted-in-the-wild-mid-june-release/
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187569
all I can say is, WOW! Wish I had sprint right now

Roflcopterrr said:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-sprint-spotted-in-the-wild-mid-june-release/
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187569
all I can say is, WOW! Wish I had sprint right now
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not me. they, as expected, removed the front camera, and i dont really care for the new color/look of it. Im still getting an unlocked one.

Looks cool to me. The back cover looks funky! Shame about the front camera tho.

Lyian said:
not me. they, as expected, removed the front camera, and i dont really care for the new color/look of it. Im still getting an unlocked one.
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Does any US carrier leave the front camera on any of their devices?
I'm surprised there's still no word on it from at&t...

fone_fanatic said:
Does any US carrier leave the front camera on any of their devices?
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No, because none of them support video calling.

ajbopp said:
No, because none of them support video calling.
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Any of them can support it. The real reason they don't leave them in is because they don't want video calls lagging up their network. They don't have enough of a 3G foundation in place to feel secure with the concept. As long as the software is available (and it is), we could have it. I don't blame them, but it still pisses me off that I can't have it.

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Any of them can support it. The real reason they don't leave them in is because they don't want video calls lagging up their network. They don't have enough of a 3G foundation in place to feel secure with the concept. As long as the software is available (and it is), we could have it. I don't blame them, but it still pisses me off that I can't have it.
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I wouldnt even use it over 3g, if i were to use it, id only be over wi-fi in hotspots. In all realness, i doubt id even use that camrea much, but i just hate it when i see one device, that has removed features for (what equates to) the same price.

The front camera isn't much of a big deal really. Don't let it stop you from getting the phone. It looks really cool. I won't mind having it but it doesn't support our 2100 3G networks. . I hardly use my fron camera on the HD. The novelty wears off really quicky. Also video calls cost a lot and you need to be on the same network to get cheaper calls. I only used it once to test it out and never used it again. Mainly because most of my friends won't take video calls cos it cost them money. LOL.

Damn, Mid June?? Thats right around the corner! Looks like Sprint is corning the market in June of 2009. Time to buy some Sprint stock.... weeeeeeeeee
Then sell it!!!

Well, with the 2 hottest QWERTY handsets out this June (Palm Pre and TP2), I am sure Sprint will be very popular this summer.

I am soooooooo happy about this. With this being a CDMA/GSM Hybrid I'll get to have my cake (Sprint) and eat it too (the world)!

Hehehhe! As far as video calling goes, do we really need it? No, I mean, who are we going to call that actually has video calling in the US? May be a handful of business users MIGHT have it on a hard line. Engadget is reporting on a June release for the TP2 but (hold your horses, bad news) this FCC doc https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1113590&native_or_pdf=pdf clearly states a confidentiality release date of October 31st, 2009! Weird, huh? I mean, things change but I still think it'll be a Q4 release like originally anticipated (leaked for internal Sprint roadmap earlier)

I suspect that's business as usual, though I don't know for sure. But it would make sense to request that sort of thing for several months past the release date as a contingency for a last minute need for change of plans regarding rollout. I don't see this as in any way restricting a carrier or HTC from releasing the phone before the date stated.

sino8r said:
Hehehhe! As far as video calling goes, do we really need it? No, I mean, who are we going to call that actually has video calling in the US?
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for me, thats not so much the point as, i just dont like features, useful or not, being taken away from something with out it being replaced by something else.. and sorry, a sprint/t-mobile/att logo isn't an adequate replacement for a camera. Maybe i wont use it, but i always like it when something is there, and not use it, rather than if something wasn't their, and i needed it.

Does anyone else think the release date is suspect? I want some confirmation first from Sprint as it would make no sense to release 2 smartphones like the Pre and TP2 in the same release time frame, they would hurt each other's sales. Also, Palm has been known for business devices, so saying the Pre is consumer based and the TP2 is business focused would not sell it for me...I'm sure hoping this isn't like when people rumored the Pre as early as April and it got pushed back little by little...personally I can't stand my TP any more as I'm having major problems and would do anything to trade it in for a TP2 sooner instead of later (may have to resort to a Pre if the TP2 doesn't truly come in June).

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Does anyone else think the release date is suspect? I want some confirmation first from Sprint as it would make no sense to release 2 smartphones like the Pre and TP2 in the same release time frame, they would hurt each other's sales. Also, Palm has been known for business devices, so saying the Pre is consumer based and the TP2 is business focused would not sell it for me...I'm sure hoping this isn't like when people rumored the Pre as early as April and it got pushed back little by little...personally I can't stand my TP any more as I'm having major problems and would do anything to trade it in for a TP2 sooner instead of later (may have to resort to a Pre if the TP2 doesn't truly come in June).
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It was confirmed by Sprint, in a roundabout way, when this was first announced. A Sprint employee said a high level Sprint sales rep demo'd the phone, and said the release date was June.
Sprint is apparently coming out with the Pre, Snap, and TP2 all within a few weeks of each other. This does make sense if you think about it, because they are all very different form factors and each is likely to appeal to different sorts of customers (I wouldn't touch the Pre or Snap with a 10 foot pole - Pre has an untried, little supported OS, and Snap has a keyboard design I personally can't stand - But I can't wait to get my hands on the TP2). It's unlikely, I think, that they will hurt each other's sales. If Sprint can generate some real mass enthusiasm across three different phone styles all at the same, it's probably going to be to Sprint's benefit to have all the buzz being around them instead of the other guys.
Marketing guys will tell you it will even be an advantage to have negative buzz ("love the Pre but they are sold out till August! Dammit!"). No such thing as bad publicity and all.
Sprint really needs to get people talking about them, and not Verizon and AT&T. I think this stands a good chance of being a brilliant strategy.

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I am soooooooo happy about this. With this being a CDMA/GSM Hybrid I'll get to have my cake (Sprint) and eat it too (the world)!
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And this is the thing that finally pushed me over the edge. I end up using CDMA locally and GSM on the road, and I have always kept two phones around: this will *finally* put an end to this. 'Cause honestly, it would be hard to justify the purchase absent that: the hardware underpinning the device is nearly the same as my Touch Pro.

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And this is the thing that finally pushed me over the edge. I end up using CDMA locally and GSM on the road, and I have always kept two phones around: this will *finally* put an end to this. 'Cause honestly, it would be hard to justify the purchase absent that: the hardware underpinning the device is nearly the same as my Touch Pro.
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unless you mean "on the road" as in foreign countries, I think the GSM radio will be disabled except outside of the US according to the fcc filing.

Free country
ckeegan said:
unless you mean "on the road" as in foreign countries, I think the GSM radio will be disabled except outside of the US according to the fcc filing.
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I so sure the fine folks of the hacking and unlocking communities wont let that go, we should have the best of both worlds in the same country -----ITS A FREE COUNTRY!! HOOK IT UP BARACK!!!!

from what i've learned by poking around the CDMA phones require a different firmware correct? among other small things?
i would assume this means less support since it seems like a majority of the genius's here use GSM phones.
right wrong? just being silly?

Verizon trolling the Nexus

I am starting to believe Verizon is pushing the date back to push more RAZR's and Rezounds. Some have said 11-21 and now this http://androidcommunity.com/latest-...ch-date-pushed-back-to-december-8th-20111118/ . Fun fun fun. Could be a legit photo or not, any thoughts team?

I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.

bleach168 said:
I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.
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Makes me wonder why do they even bother to pick the phone up? I mean I know Verizon wants to bloat the crud out of all their phones, lock booloaders up. There hasn't been much advertising for the Nexus either compared to say the Bionic and RAZR. Another main concern for them is probably the tethering issue for starters. That and they probably wont make as much money since they cant push their crapware market on the Nexus.

Or, you know, maybe Verizon is testing the device, making Google fix any bugs before it gets deployed, and thus don't know the exact date it'll be ready because new bugs may crop up.
Read some of the other threads here about the initial bugs people are experiencing. I'm actually kind of glad that Verizon is taking their time (assuming, of course, that they are really doing due diligence and not just trying to sell more RAZRs).
Also, the bugs being reported here seems to confirm this source: http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...thread-12-8-release-date-648.html#post3478434
This source claims that Verizon was still testing the device and had bugs crop up, but they weren't serious enough to postpone the launch. Well, maybe it turned out to be more serious than they thought and they had to postpone it. Maybe it was the very same volume control bug being reported here...

I have also read reports that the phone is done, ready, and capable of being sold, BUT, VZW is holding off due the poor sales of the Razr & Rezound which of course why would they suck. Crippled, bloated, and forced to wait 9+ months post next OS or bug fix update no thanks.
While I am not loving my iP4S as much as I thought I would (can't wait to sell it and get a G-Nex ASAP) at least the OS updates come right out from Apple with NO CARRIER DELAY. This is the reason I want a Nexus device so I can do more and get more out of it especially with CM9 coming. Which is the way I will likely rely on updates and fixes and NOT Google/Verizon/Samsung.

zetsumeikuro said:
I am starting to believe Verizon is pushing the date back to push more RAZR's and Rezounds. Some have said 11-21 and now this http://androidcommunity.com/latest-...ch-date-pushed-back-to-december-8th-20111118/ . Fun fun fun. Could be a legit photo or not, any thoughts team?
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I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.
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Its a combination of both these things.
Google was either stupid or clueless. Knowing those two phones were coming then giving VZ exclusivity borders on the retarded.
When you see the success off the SGS2 its dumbfounding that Samsung would go along with there device being limited to a carrier with no interest in truly flags hipping there device.

Well,
looking at the handful of these that are out in action, and all the issues, I would doubt even the 8th for Verizon. I mean, they are not going to put a product out there if the end result is people just returning them. Especially in the US where VZ is the only drinking fountain for the Nexus.
Someone who is not in anticipation of the Nexus, wandering in to VZ, is going to see the face unlock and the dazzling screen, and say "cool, I want it!" Then when they wonder why there are issues with video and Flash, that they are used to, and if the power consumption of LTE mirrors that of the smaller battery non-LTE, they will want thier money back.
No one really knows what the extent of the issues are because there are just not that many of these phones in service yet. If and when VZ starts selling the Nexus, then you will see what the extent of the issues are, unless they take care of them prior to putting them out for sale.

Rant Here about Verizon not giving a date and pushing this back every week

now im not on verizon and the only reason im coming over is for this phone. (BE WARNED - RANT COMING)
I've been on sprint for about 10 years now, the past 3 years i have been on an employee plan paying 30$/month for unlimited everything. The sad thing is, i feel bad for the people paying full price on sprint because im located in Rochester NY and sprint service should be great here but i rarely get service indoor's recently. 4G is a joke and Rochester was one of the first places to get it turned on. So im happy to move to a better network and brought myself to pay the extra $ for the service.... so enough about how sprints network is going down hill and on to how Verizon F***ED this launch up royally.
Maybe i hate Verizon for not mentioning a word about this phone. Maybe its because the Galaxy Nexus has been out for almost a month overseas. Maybe its because i feel like not only have i been waiting for this phone but i've also been waiting for Google to release an exciting new OS. Maybe it's the fact that i KNOW this phone can compete in the market as one of the best phones and not to mention its the flagship phone from Google that can kick start features like NFC and such. but then i think to myself... What did i just see when i turned on the TV or when i went to that website. ADs for the RAZR... THE RAZR.... ARE U KIDDING ME?
okay okay, i understand, back in 2003 it was the coolest phone on the block. TIMES HAVE CHANGED, Verizon knewwwwww they were getting the Nexus, and they hate they can't call it Droid. the name droid (personal opinion) is UGLY. Im not saying Galaxy Nexus is any better but i dont want to feel like i have a robot in my pocket. The Razr just came at the wrong time and VZ spent to much money with s$itty advertising like they always do.
I was really really hoping to see some type of great marketing strategy by verizon starting this week. Something along the lines of this:
Mon Night Football. 5 to 10 second commercial, completely white background and just out the nexus right in the middle of the high def screen. no music. mahyeb a piano key or smething, with just a shot of this beauty... then at the very end, flash Verizon so people know, that phone is coming to VZ, wow!!?? (and yes i would love to see a "with Google" slapped in there somewhere but we all know Verizon would have a heart attack promoting anyone but themselves)
and keep showing the commercial every day with a count down until the release date (which i was hoping the 9th) so it would have been even sweeter to see that commercial knowing i can freakin get that this week!?!
people know the verizon brand, they like the verizon brand becuase its associated with a good network. FOCUS ON YOUR PRODUCT, THE BEST ONE U HAVE. make people say, woahhhhhh what was that???? and im not talking about the people like us who wait and wait and wait knowing we will hold out for this, im talking about your average consumer, the one who see's a product and says, damn thats good looking, i WANT that. i WANT THAT NEOWWWZ!
(hell i even made a s$hitty youtube video to get my point across)
but no. No commercials, no internet Ad's, only one spot on thier website to put your email in a box (which NO ONE likes giving out) for more information....
Verizon, you messed up. You had a chance to make a boat load even more of cash and you missed out. im not even your customer yet and i dread the fact ill be stuck with you for two years.
and now we have this, no Google wallet. im highly confident once developers get their hands on this phone they will find a way to make it work, but instead Verizon points the finger and says its not them. WHY IN THE HELL WOULD GOOGLE NOT WANT TO HELP ITS OWN NEW SERVICE?!? It just doesnt make sense.........
alright, i just blacked out with anger/frustration while typing this so i hope it makes sense and i hope other people see what im seeing...
oh, and one last note.. This ones for you Google. i hope you paid attention to this whole launch. i hope you learned your leson about dancing with the RED DEVIL. They will take your masterpiece and piss all over it.

In my opinion the main problem with this launch is that Google and Samsung allowed Verizon to take control of it. I hate to compare to Apple, but they take full control of their product launches and do not allow the carriers to tamper in any way. Samsung and Google should have grown some balls and had the phone launched their way. If Verizon did not want to play ball then they just release the unlocked version here as they did in the past.

Cool story bro. Lol @ video. Lame but funny.
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jfgirard0423 said:
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special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts

jfgirard0423 said:
special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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Maybe I should talk to my account Rep.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

No ETA on this yet how sad just got off the phone with Costco district manager he just received an email about the push back could be awhile
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jfgirard0423 said:
special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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Hmm, that's weird. My company spends just shy of $100k a year on Verizon devices (somewhere around ~800 lines currently)...and my rep is just as unable to get one to sell as anyone else.
And he is the rep for 5 other companies around our size.
I think there's a much better chance you're a Verizon employee or were able to play with one in the immediate vicinity.

Your bigger rant should be how a company the size of VZW can hose their entire LTE network with each introduction of a new device.

BarryH_GEG said:
Your bigger rant should be how a company the size of VZW can hose their entire LTE network with each introduction of a new device.
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Yeah, and you can bet that the resolution will be quiet and nothing else ever said of this outage.
"Isolated" will be the spin. I was going to head over to Verizon and eBay the GSM GNEX I have, but I just can't fork over $85 for a tiered plan when I have unlimited on ATT for $40 after taxes (2nd line on plan).
Oh well.

hotleadsingerguy said:
Hmm, that's weird. My company spends just shy of $100k a year on Verizon devices (somewhere around ~800 lines currently)...and my rep is just as unable to get one to sell as anyone else.
And he is the rep for 5 other companies around our size.
I think there's a much better chance you're a Verizon employee or were able to play with one in the immediate vicinity.
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!

jfgirard0423 said:
sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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Man, you are one posting maniac about your Verizon GNEX.
Congrats I suppose.
Had my GSM version for 3 weeks. Welcome to the club and keep letting everyone know how your business rep put you on a pedestal, lol.

ericshmerick said:
Man, you are one posting maniac about your Verizon GNEX.
Congrats I suppose.
Had my GSM version for 3 weeks. Welcome to the club and keep letting everyone know how your business rep put you on a pedestal, lol.
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Sorry. Just excited about the phone. Don't mean to be out of line.
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Sorry. Just excited about the phone. Don't mean to be out of line.
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Haha, I don't blame you. Didn't mean to come off as a jerk if I did.
Hell, I'd be doing the same. Enjoy it!

lol the op is a joke. He probably wasted 15-20minutes of his life to complain to a whole bunch of people he doesn't eve know ... ahhaha
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jfgirard0423 said:
sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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Not saying I necessarily don't believe you, just saying the "don't sell yet" thing is pretty hard...they probably aren't even allowing the devices to activate on the network yet.
Beyond that, not a single person knows the date it's releasing now. The update said "indefinite", meaning nobody knows for sure. It's just suspected for next week, at the moment.

I won't promise anything but I will call rep tomorrow for some info
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Thanks for the reply king shady, u prob just wasted 5 mins reading even tho u don't care lol. All in good fun tho, just pissed at vz, ill get one sooner or later
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I disagree.
Seriously. Think about it from Verizon's perspective. Why would they put money and advertising behind the Nexus phone when they have the Rezound and Razr that just came out and are of similar specs? They control the user experience on those devices and can put their subscription apps preloaded on them. Not true with the Galaxy Nexus. Of course they're going to market the hell out of the devices that make them more money.
That said, I agree that Samsung/Google should have taken more charge with this launch. Nexus devices are about no compromise, pure Android experiences, and no carrier/OEM tampering. What I've seen of the Verizon version has contradicted this in a few ways before the phone is even out. Makes me very happy I got the GSM version. But at least the LTE one is unlocked and there will be plenty of ROMs and support for it.

Is the HARDWARE of Galaxy Nexus bugless?

Own a Nexus S. Thinking about upgrade to GN.
In Hong Kong, we got a message that Samsung has stopped the production of GN. Shops are offering final sales at HK$3700 / US$474.
It is a good price to buy. But it is very strange to see that Samsung has stopped the production so early, 5 months after release. GN was just released in November.
Is it possible that GN's hardware is buggy and Google needs to issue a new version?
I tried to look for answers in forums. But no luck. Pls give me some hints. thank you!
Any software bugs don't worry me. I am using CM9. I believe in the power of open source community.

So far, I've been more than happy with my GNex.
I bought mine on release day.
Only issues so far have been software related so I flashed AOKP and have never looked back.

Mixmaster333 said:
So far, I've been more than happy with my GNex.
I bought mine on release day.
Only issues so far have been software related so I flashed AOKP and have never looked back.
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Do you see any screen "burn"?

There are no bugs, the global market version is just dropping everywhere. Its a steal I think. Its a low volume model and they're just trying to sell them.
There are price threads right in this forum talking about it.

Only issues I've had so far have been software-related and nothing related to hardware.

No hardware is perfect. And quality control is a lot worse than you'd like to know. That being said, I highly doubt that Google will quietly "refresh" the hardware. The phones been out too long, they're not doing that and there are no blatant defects.

martonikaj said:
No hardware is perfect. And quality control is a lot worse than you'd like to know. That being said, I highly doubt that Google will quietly "refresh" the hardware. The phones been out too long, they're not doing that and there are no blatant defects.
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Does the life cycle of a smart phone become much shorter now? released less than half a year, then stop production.

martonikaj said:
No hardware is perfect. And quality control is a lot worse than you'd like to know. That being said, I highly doubt that Google will quietly "refresh" the hardware. The phones been out too long, they're not doing that and there are no blatant defects.
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When the GN in stock all sold, there will be no Google developer phone available for sale. Is it strange?

colocynth said:
When the GN in stock all sold, there will be no Google developer phone available for sale. Is it strange?
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Carriers will not continue to sell devices if:
1. The contract they have with the OEM does not require it.
And
2. Sales are not doing well. They will not continue to buy devices if they are not selling.
Hardware does not have to be the reason.

adrynalyne said:
Carriers will not continue to sell devices if:
1. The contract they have with the OEM does not require it.
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2. Sales are not doing well. They will not continue to buy devices if they are not selling.
Hardware does not have to be the reason.
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I think Google should keep at least one developer phone available in the market.
Anyway, after reading you guys' comments, I have decided to buy one. thx for the info!
Hope I can get one since it was out of stock for the last week. GN is so hot in HK.

colocynth said:
I think Google should keep at least one developer phone available in the market.
Anyway, after reading you guys' comments, I have decided to buy one. thx for the info!
Hope I can get one since it was out of stock for the last week. GN is so hot in HK.
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Google doesn't sell the device directly.
They're going to have another Nexus in 6 months anyways.

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Google doesn't sell the device directly.
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What about the google shops?

This device is the best selling nexus yet.... period!
There is not a major hardware defect and 6 months has been the shelf life standard for the last year or so. Verizon has sold over a million nexuses and sprint just did this...
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...print-sells-out-pre-orders-after-only-3-days/
People in this forum are the most uneducated hard headed bunch I have ever met. Seriously you all need to learn how to read before guessing things ..... smh
#imbussels

If I may contribute:
A few weeks (maybe 6 or 7) after I got the GN, there was a problem with the microUSB connection. It would not charge if it was on, either from a USB port or the wall charger.
To charge it, I had to turn it off or pull the battery several times and connect it while it was still off. Even then, I had to try several times until it finally did charge.
After almost two weeks of that, everything went normal again. To this day, I have no idea whether it was hardware or software related.
Here's a thread with people having a similar issue.

mark manning said:
This device is the best selling nexus yet.... period!
There is not a major hardware defect and 6 months has been the shelf life standard for the last year or so. Verizon has sold over a million nexuses and sprint just did this...
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...print-sells-out-pre-orders-after-only-3-days/
People in this forum are the most uneducated hard headed bunch I have ever met. Seriously you all need to learn how to read before guessing things ..... smh
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You mean #imbeciles?
Anyway, Verizon and Sprint's sales does not reflect what is (or is not) happening in China.

The phone is still produced in Brazil as "Galaxy X" (as Nexus brand is already used by another company that did not allow Samsung / Google to use it to promote the phone), and recently has been introduced to Sprint users, so, my guess is that either it won't be produced/sold in your country or someone is misinformed...

adrynalyne said:
You mean #imbeciles?
Anyway, Verizon and Sprint's sales does not reflect what is (or is not) happening in China.
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Ha! Ya I was a lil drunk writing that lmao
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Wow....overkill.

Anyone else not a fan of how Samsung is on overdrive with the different models, colors and variants of our S4 so quickly after the initial release? It's a little insulting. I know it happened with the S3, to an extent, but over a much longer timeframe... You buy the phone when it is released only to find out that now, less than 3 months after its release, there are multiple models and even talk of an advanced 4G LTE model with updated snapdragon 800 inside. I understand that it's essentially impossible to have the newest, bleeding-edge cell phone, but to release an "updated model" less than a few months after the initial release is a huge slap in the face.

The new colors and the active weren't a big shocker to me since I'd rather have a good screen and specs than a bit more durable device. The mega wasn't much to me either but the S4 Advanced is.. Even though tmobile barely just got lte now it wouldn't have too much function besides the new process but still.. Id like to have some safety in buying something new and not having buyers remorse for not waiting for the next best thing so soon.
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Yeah it is so aggravating
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KingVeto said:
Anyone else not a fan of how Samsung is on overdrive with the different models, colors and variants of our S4 so quickly after the initial release? It's a little insulting. I know it happened with the S3, to an extent, but over a much longer timeframe... You buy the phone when it is released only to find out that now, less than 3 months after its release, there are multiple models and even talk of an advanced 4G LTE model with updated snapdragon 800 inside. I understand that it's essentially impossible to have the newest, bleeding-edge cell phone, but to release an "updated model" less than a few months after the initial release is a huge slap in the face.
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I want a device that gives me a sense of security of having the top support. For Samsung to immediately dump us like this could be their weakest point. I just bought it a week ago and to hear something new may be coming just pisses me off. No wonder I was considering apple
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*shudder* no, my friend, you still chose wisely. The S4 is an amazing phone, and I love it. I'm mostly just making a comment on how I don't like the direction Samsung is going... They're getting very greedy and flooding the market with S4 labeled everything....it's a sure-fire way to turn people off to the brand. And if this advanced version comes to light and is released shortly, then this will be my last Samsung branded phone. I bought an S4 because I thought it would be Samsung's flagship top-tier smartphone, but apparently it is already obsolete after two months. This would be welcome if a competitor released a phone that wiped the floor with the S4, but to have the same manufacturer do it....that's simply a greedy, consumer-alienating move.

It almost feels like they're punishing the early adopters.
"See all the cool **** we could've put in your phone but chose not to?"

im really pissed about the s4 advanced. its a huge screw you to those of us who bought the phone in may. its only been what, a month and a half? Not to mention that us 16 gig users got especially boned. Isnt this rapid release cycle one of the contributing factors of htc's slow suicide? this may very well be the last samsung phone i buy. ive been eyeing the sony experia line for a while. Time to do some research

I might go with the iPhone
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Really? Am I missing something? It's just a S4 with LTE Advanced which no carrier to date in the US has announced plans of rolling out yet. We are arguably leading the LTE rollout and our two largest carriers aren't even done with it yet, much less the #3 and #4 carriers. T-Mobile is the one that's best poised to go to LTE Advanced but I'd say they have enough on their hands finishing their LTE rollout.
Samsung has recently showed that with the S3, they are supporting their older platforms with the leaked (and should be soon to be official) release of 4.2.2.
Other than that, how does the S4 Advanced make the regular S4 obsolete in any way? Exactly how much faster is browsing going to be at anything over 10, 15, 20 mbps? I'd bet most of you guys aren't getting that on your home broadband connections.
As for the S4 Active and the different colors, well, there were a lot of rumors of the S4 active before it was released and really, the new colors should have been expected by early adopters.
I'm not saying what Samsung is doing is perfect but, let's be honest here, the release of the S4 Advanced changes nothing about the S4 being the fastest phone you can buy today. What else did they change that you guys feel so left out about? They changed the modem and it supports a technology that to my knowledge there are 11 cell sites somewhere in Russia use as an experiment. Haha, I'm sorry but I just don't get the concern.

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Really? Am I missing something? It's just a S4 with LTE Advanced which no carrier to date in the US has announced plans of rolling out yet. We are arguably leading the LTE rollout and our two largest carriers aren't even done with it yet, much less the #3 and #4 carriers. T-Mobile is the one that's best poised to go to LTE Advanced but I'd say they have enough on their hands finishing their LTE rollout.
Samsung has recently showed that with the S3, they are supporting their older platforms with the leaked (and should be soon to be official) release of 4.2.2.
Other than that, how does the S4 Advanced make the regular S4 obsolete in any way? Exactly how much faster is browsing going to be at anything over 10, 15, 20 mbps? I'd bet most of you guys aren't getting that on your home broadband connections.
As for the S4 Active and the different colors, well, there were a lot of rumors of the S4 active before it was released and really, the new colors should have been expected by early adopters.
I'm not saying what Samsung is doing is perfect but, let's be honest here, the release of the S4 Advanced changes nothing about the S4 being the fastest phone you can buy today. What else did they change that you guys feel so left out about? They changed the modem and it supports a technology that to my knowledge there are 11 cell sites somewhere in Russia use as an experiment. Haha, I'm sorry but I just don't get the concern.
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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.

exasperating
I can't keep up with samsung too, when s3 came out I just bought my s2 couple of months ago which is really irritating, I have yet to enjoy the features of this awesome smart phone and next thing I knew my friends are buying s3 like it's going out of style..

The issue isn't a slight increase in browsing speed. Or even that the new snapdragon is a faster processor (although that's upsetting) . It's the principle of it. You don't release a product and then release an updated version of the same product barely two months later. It doesn't speak well of the company's loyalty to their consumers. Do you think anyone is going to rush out and buy any future phones from Samsung? No, because they've proven that within a month or so they will push out another "updated" version of the same phone. This wasn't meant to start an argument between the readers of these forums, it was simply my opinion of what I consider poor business practices of Samsung.

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you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
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Do you really think it will be a big difference for real-world performance? So far the biggest factor in performance for the s4 seems to be software optimization.
Anyhow, I hear what you're saying. But, no matter what phone you buy these days, there is always a better one around the corner.

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Do you really think it will be a big difference for real-world performance? So far the biggest factor in performance for the s4 seems to be software optimization.
Anyhow, I hear what you're saying. But, no matter what phone you buy these days, there is always a better one around the corner.
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I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
People, we can spend our lives and money chasing the "next big shiny thing" if that's your deal...but let's be honest with ourselves - even with the S4 Advanced being a slightly more powerful model of our current GS4, the gap won't be enough to justify shelling out another 600+ bucks to buy the latest new phone IMO.
We can hate on Samsung all we want, but one thing I respect about the company is their willingness to continuously innovate - kinda like Google.
So long as the GS4 remains well supported (and T-Mobile finally releases the bloody update) - I've got no complaints. My GS4 is the tits, and I doubt I'll need a new phone for quite some time (want is another story entirely).

oblivion0 said:
I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
People, we can spend our lives and money chasing the "next big shiny thing" if that's your deal...but let's be honest with ourselves - even with the S4 Advanced being a slightly more powerful model of our current GS4, the gap won't be enough to justify shelling out another 600+ bucks to buy the latest new phone IMO.
We can hate on Samsung all we want, but one thing I respect about the company is their willingness to continuously innovate - kinda like Google.
So long as the GS4 remains well supported (and T-Mobile finally releases the bloody update) - I've got no complaints. My GS4 is the tits, and I doubt I'll need a new phone for quite some time (want is another story entirely).
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Say, what update referring to? Do you mean the US equivalent of the update they recently received in Europe? If so, yeah I want to check that out.
When I was on Sprint, we had a leak-God named Sextape. Sextape would very generously provide Odin files of new leaks, sometimes months before actual release. So far I haven't seen a Dev like that on the T-Mobile side of things.
But I'm still hoping to "meet"such a Dev.

You guys should already know this is going to happen. When you buy a new phone, there's always going to be a new one coming out. With the person saying they bought an s2 then s3 came out in few months. You should already know it was coming out, it happens every year. You don't buy a new phone after months of being released then complain about it when a new one came out
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Dr. Fed said:
Say, what update referring to? Do you mean the US equivalent of the update they recently received in Europe? If so, yeah I want to check that out.
When I was on Sprint, we had a leak-God named Sextape. Sextape would very generously provide Odin files of new leaks, sometimes months before actual release. So far I haven't seen a Dev like that on the T-Mobile side of things.
But I'm still hoping to "meet"such a Dev.
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Yes, I'm referring to the International G4 update. There's a T-Mobile leak available, but from what I understand it's buggy.
I was on ET4G as well, and Sextape is awesome.

This argument seems moot. Do you even think T-Mobile would pick up the S4 Advance? I very highly doubt it. If what you really wanted was the "best", why not shell out the money for the international version with octa-core back in May? Because of the lack of LTE is my guess, but T-Mobile's LTE coverage is so sparse it seems pointless.
This variant will remain well supported into the future - as far as smartphone lifespans go. This is not the HTC One story. HTC kept releasing variants because there were crappy flaws and they couldn't get it right.
We all seem to be pretty well plugged into the rumor mill, so news and, based on history, the expectation of color variants should've been no surprise. And the Active has been known for quite some time. We are a "Want it now!" group which is why we couldn't even wait a month for the initial price drop.
If you really need the Snapdragon 800, you can still commanda premium for this phone on ebay to pay your way. But, I would think the development is going to be very sparse compared to this one - FAR fewer people will have that phone. Hell, right now we can run any rom from any carrier, plus the international 9505.

TheAtheistOtaku said:
you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.
Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
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Would you rather not have the option? "Big improvement in real world performance and smoothness" - I just can't see how a 1.9Ghz quad core processor in a phone is holding you back.
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The issue isn't a slight increase in browsing speed. Or even that the new snapdragon is a faster processor (although that's upsetting) . It's the principle of it. You don't release a product and then release an updated version of the same product barely two months later. It doesn't speak well of the company's loyalty to their consumers. Do you think anyone is going to rush out and buy any future phones from Samsung? No, because they've proven that within a month or so they will push out another "updated" version of the same phone. This wasn't meant to start an argument between the readers of these forums, it was simply my opinion of what I consider poor business practices of Samsung.
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Nothing has been released. There isn't even any talk about this phone being released in the US or even when it could be released. If I was a betting man I'd say it would be somewhere at or near when other 5" phones are getting the snapdragon 800........ which is......... uh, not announced by anyone yet.

se1000 said:
Would you rather not have the option? "Big improvement in real world performance and smoothness" - I just can't see how a 1.9Ghz quad core processor in a phone is holding you back.
Nothing has been released. There isn't even any talk about this phone being released in the US or even when it could be released. If I was a betting man I'd say it would be somewhere at or near when other 5" phones are getting the snapdragon 800........ which is......... uh, not announced by anyone yet.
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Exactly and korea is getting this first the u.s. will not see this until next year at the earliest. There are no advanced lte networks in place yet but guess who will be in the best shape for it....Tmobile because they have the newest lte equipment out there that there are using now across the country. So I am not mad at them it would have been a different story if it was coming now but it's still awhile before we see it. I am more pissed off about the lack of internal space and not being moving apps to sd card. Hope we get the same update to fix this soon like the intetnational model. That's my only beef right now.
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I dont think the op is out to chase the next best thing but rather, the business aspect of samsung.
But hey, Lt advance, and w.e spec is being added to the phone doesn't really bother me if i dont have it. My phone is blazing fast. With AOSP/AOKP it runs faster than my finger can catch up because of the specs it currently have. Infamous manage to squeeze 5+ hours of battery life out of it and evil managed to make it as smooth as silk.
So I am not complaining , if i say I will be chasing the next best thing with my money as someone of you clearly have that mindset going on in here, I will be more broke than my two years old baby cousin. If not broke, will just walk around with that green envious eyes and no one got time for that, clearly im too lazy for that. It is differenty if you got the s2 than the s3 came out (the obvious difference in the phone is MINDBLOWING)
But from the s4 lt..to s4 lt advance, water proof s4, to w.e else s4 is out there...I'm good. I can still sleep at night knowing my phone is better than 7/8 of my whole block if it is about being satisfy with the next being thing.