Verizon trolling the Nexus - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I am starting to believe Verizon is pushing the date back to push more RAZR's and Rezounds. Some have said 11-21 and now this http://androidcommunity.com/latest-...ch-date-pushed-back-to-december-8th-20111118/ . Fun fun fun. Could be a legit photo or not, any thoughts team?

I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.

bleach168 said:
I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.
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Makes me wonder why do they even bother to pick the phone up? I mean I know Verizon wants to bloat the crud out of all their phones, lock booloaders up. There hasn't been much advertising for the Nexus either compared to say the Bionic and RAZR. Another main concern for them is probably the tethering issue for starters. That and they probably wont make as much money since they cant push their crapware market on the Nexus.

Or, you know, maybe Verizon is testing the device, making Google fix any bugs before it gets deployed, and thus don't know the exact date it'll be ready because new bugs may crop up.
Read some of the other threads here about the initial bugs people are experiencing. I'm actually kind of glad that Verizon is taking their time (assuming, of course, that they are really doing due diligence and not just trying to sell more RAZRs).
Also, the bugs being reported here seems to confirm this source: http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...thread-12-8-release-date-648.html#post3478434
This source claims that Verizon was still testing the device and had bugs crop up, but they weren't serious enough to postpone the launch. Well, maybe it turned out to be more serious than they thought and they had to postpone it. Maybe it was the very same volume control bug being reported here...

I have also read reports that the phone is done, ready, and capable of being sold, BUT, VZW is holding off due the poor sales of the Razr & Rezound which of course why would they suck. Crippled, bloated, and forced to wait 9+ months post next OS or bug fix update no thanks.
While I am not loving my iP4S as much as I thought I would (can't wait to sell it and get a G-Nex ASAP) at least the OS updates come right out from Apple with NO CARRIER DELAY. This is the reason I want a Nexus device so I can do more and get more out of it especially with CM9 coming. Which is the way I will likely rely on updates and fixes and NOT Google/Verizon/Samsung.

zetsumeikuro said:
I am starting to believe Verizon is pushing the date back to push more RAZR's and Rezounds. Some have said 11-21 and now this http://androidcommunity.com/latest-...ch-date-pushed-back-to-december-8th-20111118/ . Fun fun fun. Could be a legit photo or not, any thoughts team?
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I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.
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Its a combination of both these things.
Google was either stupid or clueless. Knowing those two phones were coming then giving VZ exclusivity borders on the retarded.
When you see the success off the SGS2 its dumbfounding that Samsung would go along with there device being limited to a carrier with no interest in truly flags hipping there device.

Well,
looking at the handful of these that are out in action, and all the issues, I would doubt even the 8th for Verizon. I mean, they are not going to put a product out there if the end result is people just returning them. Especially in the US where VZ is the only drinking fountain for the Nexus.
Someone who is not in anticipation of the Nexus, wandering in to VZ, is going to see the face unlock and the dazzling screen, and say "cool, I want it!" Then when they wonder why there are issues with video and Flash, that they are used to, and if the power consumption of LTE mirrors that of the smaller battery non-LTE, they will want thier money back.
No one really knows what the extent of the issues are because there are just not that many of these phones in service yet. If and when VZ starts selling the Nexus, then you will see what the extent of the issues are, unless they take care of them prior to putting them out for sale.

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Sprint TP2 confirmed! Pictures included

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-sprint-spotted-in-the-wild-mid-june-release/
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187569
all I can say is, WOW! Wish I had sprint right now
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http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-sprint-spotted-in-the-wild-mid-june-release/
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187569
all I can say is, WOW! Wish I had sprint right now
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not me. they, as expected, removed the front camera, and i dont really care for the new color/look of it. Im still getting an unlocked one.
Looks cool to me. The back cover looks funky! Shame about the front camera tho.
Lyian said:
not me. they, as expected, removed the front camera, and i dont really care for the new color/look of it. Im still getting an unlocked one.
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Does any US carrier leave the front camera on any of their devices?
I'm surprised there's still no word on it from at&t...
fone_fanatic said:
Does any US carrier leave the front camera on any of their devices?
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No, because none of them support video calling.
ajbopp said:
No, because none of them support video calling.
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Any of them can support it. The real reason they don't leave them in is because they don't want video calls lagging up their network. They don't have enough of a 3G foundation in place to feel secure with the concept. As long as the software is available (and it is), we could have it. I don't blame them, but it still pisses me off that I can't have it.
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Any of them can support it. The real reason they don't leave them in is because they don't want video calls lagging up their network. They don't have enough of a 3G foundation in place to feel secure with the concept. As long as the software is available (and it is), we could have it. I don't blame them, but it still pisses me off that I can't have it.
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I wouldnt even use it over 3g, if i were to use it, id only be over wi-fi in hotspots. In all realness, i doubt id even use that camrea much, but i just hate it when i see one device, that has removed features for (what equates to) the same price.
The front camera isn't much of a big deal really. Don't let it stop you from getting the phone. It looks really cool. I won't mind having it but it doesn't support our 2100 3G networks. . I hardly use my fron camera on the HD. The novelty wears off really quicky. Also video calls cost a lot and you need to be on the same network to get cheaper calls. I only used it once to test it out and never used it again. Mainly because most of my friends won't take video calls cos it cost them money. LOL.
Damn, Mid June?? Thats right around the corner! Looks like Sprint is corning the market in June of 2009. Time to buy some Sprint stock.... weeeeeeeeee
Then sell it!!!
Well, with the 2 hottest QWERTY handsets out this June (Palm Pre and TP2), I am sure Sprint will be very popular this summer.
I am soooooooo happy about this. With this being a CDMA/GSM Hybrid I'll get to have my cake (Sprint) and eat it too (the world)!
Hehehhe! As far as video calling goes, do we really need it? No, I mean, who are we going to call that actually has video calling in the US? May be a handful of business users MIGHT have it on a hard line. Engadget is reporting on a June release for the TP2 but (hold your horses, bad news) this FCC doc https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1113590&native_or_pdf=pdf clearly states a confidentiality release date of October 31st, 2009! Weird, huh? I mean, things change but I still think it'll be a Q4 release like originally anticipated (leaked for internal Sprint roadmap earlier)
I suspect that's business as usual, though I don't know for sure. But it would make sense to request that sort of thing for several months past the release date as a contingency for a last minute need for change of plans regarding rollout. I don't see this as in any way restricting a carrier or HTC from releasing the phone before the date stated.
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Hehehhe! As far as video calling goes, do we really need it? No, I mean, who are we going to call that actually has video calling in the US?
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for me, thats not so much the point as, i just dont like features, useful or not, being taken away from something with out it being replaced by something else.. and sorry, a sprint/t-mobile/att logo isn't an adequate replacement for a camera. Maybe i wont use it, but i always like it when something is there, and not use it, rather than if something wasn't their, and i needed it.
Does anyone else think the release date is suspect? I want some confirmation first from Sprint as it would make no sense to release 2 smartphones like the Pre and TP2 in the same release time frame, they would hurt each other's sales. Also, Palm has been known for business devices, so saying the Pre is consumer based and the TP2 is business focused would not sell it for me...I'm sure hoping this isn't like when people rumored the Pre as early as April and it got pushed back little by little...personally I can't stand my TP any more as I'm having major problems and would do anything to trade it in for a TP2 sooner instead of later (may have to resort to a Pre if the TP2 doesn't truly come in June).
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Does anyone else think the release date is suspect? I want some confirmation first from Sprint as it would make no sense to release 2 smartphones like the Pre and TP2 in the same release time frame, they would hurt each other's sales. Also, Palm has been known for business devices, so saying the Pre is consumer based and the TP2 is business focused would not sell it for me...I'm sure hoping this isn't like when people rumored the Pre as early as April and it got pushed back little by little...personally I can't stand my TP any more as I'm having major problems and would do anything to trade it in for a TP2 sooner instead of later (may have to resort to a Pre if the TP2 doesn't truly come in June).
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It was confirmed by Sprint, in a roundabout way, when this was first announced. A Sprint employee said a high level Sprint sales rep demo'd the phone, and said the release date was June.
Sprint is apparently coming out with the Pre, Snap, and TP2 all within a few weeks of each other. This does make sense if you think about it, because they are all very different form factors and each is likely to appeal to different sorts of customers (I wouldn't touch the Pre or Snap with a 10 foot pole - Pre has an untried, little supported OS, and Snap has a keyboard design I personally can't stand - But I can't wait to get my hands on the TP2). It's unlikely, I think, that they will hurt each other's sales. If Sprint can generate some real mass enthusiasm across three different phone styles all at the same, it's probably going to be to Sprint's benefit to have all the buzz being around them instead of the other guys.
Marketing guys will tell you it will even be an advantage to have negative buzz ("love the Pre but they are sold out till August! Dammit!"). No such thing as bad publicity and all.
Sprint really needs to get people talking about them, and not Verizon and AT&T. I think this stands a good chance of being a brilliant strategy.
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I am soooooooo happy about this. With this being a CDMA/GSM Hybrid I'll get to have my cake (Sprint) and eat it too (the world)!
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And this is the thing that finally pushed me over the edge. I end up using CDMA locally and GSM on the road, and I have always kept two phones around: this will *finally* put an end to this. 'Cause honestly, it would be hard to justify the purchase absent that: the hardware underpinning the device is nearly the same as my Touch Pro.
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And this is the thing that finally pushed me over the edge. I end up using CDMA locally and GSM on the road, and I have always kept two phones around: this will *finally* put an end to this. 'Cause honestly, it would be hard to justify the purchase absent that: the hardware underpinning the device is nearly the same as my Touch Pro.
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unless you mean "on the road" as in foreign countries, I think the GSM radio will be disabled except outside of the US according to the fcc filing.
Free country
ckeegan said:
unless you mean "on the road" as in foreign countries, I think the GSM radio will be disabled except outside of the US according to the fcc filing.
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I so sure the fine folks of the hacking and unlocking communities wont let that go, we should have the best of both worlds in the same country -----ITS A FREE COUNTRY!! HOOK IT UP BARACK!!!!
from what i've learned by poking around the CDMA phones require a different firmware correct? among other small things?
i would assume this means less support since it seems like a majority of the genius's here use GSM phones.
right wrong? just being silly?

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Nexus Release date on Verizon?

I've searched back a few pages but couldn't find, what date is this suppose to be released here in the US on Verizon?
Hasn't been announced yet. I've seen on various blogs that it should be week of 21st.
The rumor I'm holding to right now is the 21st. The Google contest seems to corroborate this.
Android Forums has a thread about the release date for Verizon and Droid Life has a leaked product release schedule (sorry, can't post links)
vespoid said:
The rumor I'm holding to right now is the 21st. The Google contest seems to corroborate this.
Android Forums has a thread about the release date for Verizon and Droid Life has a leaked product release schedule (sorry, can't post links)
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well the 21st would make a lot of sense.
They released the razor on the 11th (probably moved it back to Friday instead of monday because they thought it was cute to do the 11/11/11 thing)
then today on the 14th the rezound comes out, so a full week for that to sell and then the Nexus releases in time for holiday shopping. Hope it's true, I'm pumped for this phone.
latest rumor/update speculates 12/1...
We don't know. Most assume early next week.
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latest rumor/update speculates 12/1...
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I am going to say false on the delay (opinion only). If there were big enough problems with the phone, then google would not have just released the source code. If it turns out to be true it is a marketing ploy to sell more razers and rezounds. I hope it is still releasing soon.
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I am going to say false on the delay (opinion only). If there were big enough problems with the phone, then google would not have just released the source code. If it turns out to be true it is a marketing ploy to sell more razers and rezounds. I hope it is still releasing soon.
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Just remember that on top of everything Samsung/Google are putting into the HSPA+ version, Verizon has to add their own network stack for CDMA/LTE and is notoriously long in the tooth on testing devices and software. I would not be surprised at all if there is a slight delay with the LTE version.
theandroidsite.com/2011/11/14/verizon-samsung-galaxy-nexus-spotted-amazon-priced-249-coming-1-2-weeks/
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According to another rumor it's going to be released on the 18th.
http://phandroid.com/2011/11/14/mor...s-will-be-released-this-friday-november-18th/
The Verizon store manager I talked to seems to confirm the rumor that it's pushed back to December. Not surprising since Verizon does take a long time to test devices on their network before releasing them, and might just explain why they still won't give us a date - the testing isn't done, so even they don't know.
Does anyone have an update on this or is it sill unknown?
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Does anyone have an update on this or is it sill unknown?
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Only thing known is Google/samsung screwed up.
Worst launch of a hyped device in recent memory.
xManMythLegend said:
Only thing known is Google/samsung screwed up.
Worst launch of a hyped device in recent memory.
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How, exactly, is that known? Nobody knows *what* is happening yet. Nobody knows when it was scheduled to launch, nor do they know when it will. Right now everything you hear is rumors...nothing is *known*.
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How, exactly, is that known? Nobody knows *what* is happening yet. Nobody knows when it was scheduled to launch, nor do they know when it will. Right now everything you hear is rumors...nothing is *known*.
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I think everyone KNOWS Samsung/Google screwed up.
Not sure whats hard to comprehend about that. A huge opportunity was lost to make Galaxy Nexus a household name and steal a huge spotlight from iOS/iPhone4s. The fact there is no schedule and no dates is WHY they screwed up.
You do NOT run product launches like this. Especially after making a friggin event out of it.
They said it would be available in November... So far, that is accurate. While I too am a little annoyed, I think that's just due to my own impatience.
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xManMythLegend said:
I think everyone KNOWS Samsung/Google screwed up.
Not sure whats hard to comprehend about that. A huge opportunity was lost to make Galaxy Nexus a household name and steal a huge spotlight from iOS/iPhone4s. The fact there is no schedule and no dates is WHY they screwed up.
You do NOT run product launches like this. Especially after making a friggin event out of it.
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Well i have to disagree with you on that. I dont think voogle is trying to make a household name. Maybe samsung is but theyre only the manufacturer here. Google has messed up though by keeping us in the dark. They were more transparent and punctual before but the only official thing that came out was uk on the 17th and they have done that. But damn them for not giving us more details about unlocked hspa+ versions. And as much as i hate they gave verizon exclusivity in thedark usa, theyre even being mum with that.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.
To fdm1: I recollect it was a little more honked up than that. Originally was said to be released about the same time as the new iphone, then a Google media announcement was set for early Oct got delayed for this reason and that and mid Oct was a surprise announcement in Hong Kong with little information release. The presentation was buggy, no info re: VZN, no estimates on pricing, no estimates on release dates, etc. And today a 16gb version is released in the UK but still no official word of a release date, pricing, or device specifics for the US.
xManMythLegend said:
I think everyone KNOWS Samsung/Google screwed up.
Not sure whats hard to comprehend about that. A huge opportunity was lost to make Galaxy Nexus a household name and steal a huge spotlight from iOS/iPhone4s. The fact there is no schedule and no dates is WHY they screwed up.
You do NOT run product launches like this. Especially after making a friggin event out of it.
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I completely disagree with you.
Google has no interest in making the Nexus line a house-hold name. Every Nexus launch has seen minimal advertising and a lower-number of units sold than most other high-profile phones.
What Google does with the Nexus line is give people that want a vanilla Android experience the chance to have just that. They aren't trying to "steal a huge spotlight" from Apple...
And there's no set "way" to run product launches. It's their company, their product, and they can do whatever they want with it. You might not like it, but that doesn't mean they messed up...it just means they didn't do what you wanted them to do.
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I completely disagree with you.
Google has no interest in making the Nexus line a house-hold name. Every Nexus launch has seen minimal advertising and a lower-number of units sold than most other high-profile phones.
What Google does with the Nexus line is give people that want a vanilla Android experience the chance to have just that. They aren't trying to "steal a huge spotlight" from Apple...
And there's no set "way" to run product launches. It's their company, their product, and they can do whatever they want with it. You might not like it, but that doesn't mean they messed up...it just means they didn't do what you wanted them to do.
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You're kidding, right? Of course there's a way to properly run product launches and Apple is the model for it. They started that whole format of how companies now launch their major tech products. In some large room, inviting major media and tech bloggers, on a stage, with "cool" slides and demo's of what their product is capable of. Followed by snappy and eye catching ad's/marketing campaign and even an "accidental/unauthorized release of said tech" if they really want to drum up publicity.
You don't do what Google/Samsung has done. Talk about this great and awesome phone with the cutting edge OS with a cool name for a month or so. Leak enough details over the summer to get your base interested, then change the name, say nothing about the price or release date, and then expect to make a big impact on the market.
Lastly, they haven't done what ANYBODY has wanted so far with this launch. So you can't single out one person and say it's what he didn't want. I'd bet just about anything that no one who was (or is still) interested in this phone wanted what we've gotten from Google/Samsung and Verizon so far. I didn't sign up on that stupid launch page for Google to tease me with pictures or tell me 24hrs before the phone drops that it's actually coming out.

Galaxy Nexus no longer being released on the 9th in the US?

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
if it doesnt launch friday ill be buying something else, i'm getting sick of using my cracked thunderbolt and even more sick of waiting
I don't think they ever officially stated a day. I've thought for a while that they would release it with some clause that said no worry free guarantee exchanges for this device since a lot of people are planning on returning their razr or rezound too.. we'll see.
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I called Verizon yesterday, the 1800#, and they confirmed the 9th, so this has to be a change if true
I can't wait until this thing is released, not because I want to get it but so these threads will end.
Wait for it or buy online like most people did here
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
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Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
this is what i know verizon has a **** load of iphone and razrs! wouldn't you try and get the most out of your inventory? i wouldn't want to price cut just to sell if i didn't have to, or at least prolong a long as possible
Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
I'm pissed!!! I'm shipping out my G2x Friday and thus wont have a phone until they get off their ass.
The phones are sitting in their stores. Its a little too late.
Verizon usually releases phones on Fridays? So of it misses this Friday, it won't be available until next Friday?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
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Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
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Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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I'll agree that the pricing is outrageous, but until someone with an equal or better network (see: competition) comes along, Verizon will be the status quo as far as high quality networks are concerned.
I don't think the latest delay has anything to do with the Nexus as much as it has to do with the overall network from a QoS standpoint. As a network technician myself, I can tell you that the issues being described with LTE SIM Card Authentication warrant a "freeze" until the problem is rectified. Why introduce a large amount of new devices onto the network without resolving the problem first?
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010
Funny I went looking for release dates. Mondays and Thursdays seem pretty common for Verizon. Also funny is the original 11/21 release date (I'm sure it was even earlier then that).
You know I've been on both sides. Push the release date until it's ready and people complain. Release the phone before its ready and people complain. Coming from a LG G2x, I can honestly say releasing the phone before it was ready was good for me but not for the population as a whole. The negative feedback it received as a "faulty device" forever scarred its name.
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Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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Motorola isn't exactly known for making phones that aren't riddled with bugs.....
This sounds more like something with Verizon's LTE network and not something to do specifically with the phones themselves.
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thanks!
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termleech said:
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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Sigh... its pointless waiting for this phone.

[REF] [INFO] Why You Want (or Don't Want) a Verizon Galaxy Nexus.

Here's my take on the situation. I'm a gadget lover, definitely the biggest geek I know by far, and don't consider myself too biased. I'm typing this on my iPad (rockin the first gen and still love it) while i have my GNex (which I also love with a scary passion) right beside me. And it could have just as easily been the other way around, I don't mind writing long winded messages with the GNex. So with that, take my opinion as you will.
The Galaxy Nexus has had a rocky start, there's no denying that. If you are going to rely on Verizon and Google alone for support with this phone, you better have your fingers crossed really tight for a handset with no issues. That's very unlikely seeing as how the vast majority of the problems lie within Verizon's not-so-good build of ICS. There's also a large number of handsets with hardware screen issues (see Galaxy Nexus Screen - What's Normal, What's Not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1394358) I do currently have banding and color problems at low brightness myself that I'm none too happy about, and will probably be exchanging phones soon because of it (for another GNex of course). So that also needs to be taken into consideration (I guess I'm writing a buyers guide now?). Samsung dropped the ball on that one. Now, there are 2 sides to the overall argument on all this, and I happen to agree with both of them.
On the one hand, yes, Verizon and Google should do their part in keeping up with the Nexus brand and make sure that the LTE handset works just as good as its global GSM twin. This has not happened. For the most part, this is Verizon's problem because the coding that needs to be in place for their 4G LTE radios is all handled secretly by Verizon themselves. Google is in control 100% when it comes to the GSM Galaxy Nexus updates, but they only hand over a partial build to Verizon, who then fill in the phone-y bits themselves. The fact that only one official update has rolled out so far is unacceptable. The average user who was sold on the latest and greatest is still stuck behind a wall of bugs nearly 6 months later. Tarnish doesn't begin to describe what this act of laziness does to the Nexus Name (Although the Galaxy name is kinda used to it).
On the other hand, the percentage of ICS users in the Android pool is about 5%. It's really hard to justify putting most of your tech teams to work on an update for a device that makes up only a fraction of that 5%. Instead Verizon and Google are mostly hard at work making sure the other 95% of their customers are continuing to get at least satisfactory service, while also trying to get those devices with the green light for an ICS upgrade that are already in millions of pockets geared up and ready to receive those updates before its too late and becomes a lost cause. Another point to this argument is that Big Red and the Googs know all about rooting and the vast underground community supporting it. They're not stupid. Google has sold this and all Nexus phones as a developer phone. They knew that our devs in the underground community could fix more bugs with this unlocked device and AOSP builds (read Android A to Z: What is the AOSP? http://m.androidcentral.com/android-z-what-aosp) then they could ever hope to push out together through official OTA updates. It's the locked down (and basically un rootable, and therefore un fix-it-yourself-by-simply-flashing-a-new-rom-able) handsets from the last generations that really need the attention from Verizon, since they really are the only ones who can fix it.
So if you're someone who loves to tinker around with devices and you turn a blind eye to warnings about voiding those seemingly useless warranties, then the Galaxy Nexus is deffinately a great bet, seeing as how the development community for this thing is bigger than any other Android device yet (at least I'm pretty sure of that one, damn near close and very surprising if not) and isn't likely to go anywhere soon.
But if you're someone who just wants their phone to work and not have to hassle with fixing it yourself (which is absolutely understandable, and in a perfect world we shouldn't have to), then you might want to seek other options as of this writing (Verizon could very well roll out a 4.0.5 update tomorrow fixing everything, making all of what I just said pointless, but I doubt it).
You stand on the side of "I'll Figure This Thing Out And Even Make It Better": You'll most likely love the Galaxy Nexus.
You stand on the side of "Making Sure Your Phone Works Right Is Your Problem, Verizon. Not Mine": You'll most likely be left with a bad taste in your mouth from the beloved/despised GNex.
Be sure to check out my write up on my solution for all your Screen Protection worries on any device! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645709
neccoguy21 said:
You stand on the side of "I'll Figure This Thing Out And Even Make It Better": You'll most likely love the Galaxy Nexus.
You stand on the side of "Making Sure Your Phone Works Right Is Your Problem, Verizon. Not Mine": You'll most likely be left with a bad taste in your mouth from the beloved/despised GNex.
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Too long to read, so I think that probably sums up your whole book.
Show me a ROM that fixes the 4G radio causing all radios to reboot and dropping all data and voice...
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Show me a ROM that fixes the 4G radio causing all radios to reboot and dropping all data and voice...
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if it ain't broken, there's no need to fix it and for most of us 4g isn't broken
I find it weird that some people have no issues with 4g, and others have give through 5-6 phones trying to get one that doesn't drop signal. Either people that have no problem don't realize its happening to them, or Samsung has quite a few phones at there with broken radios...
Anyway... I was just making a comment that not all issues can be fixed by flashing a ROM...
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I find it weird that some people have no issues with 4g, and others have give through 5-6 phones trying to get one that doesn't drop signal. Either people that have no problem don't realize its happening to them, or Samsung has quite a few phones at there with broken radios...
Anyway... I was just making a comment that not all issues can be fixed by flashing a ROM...
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Very true. But I believe the issue with 4G LTE radios is the same across the board. My mom went through a pair of the newest LG Spectrum phones (one for each of her 2 lines) that had that problem, but she didn't even want to replace those because their hot spots wouldn't work either (apparently even THE Verizon Techs at headquarters couldn't get the hot spots to work, and LG basically told Verizon and my mom both 'sorry, not our problem'. Does anyone have any more insight into this?) So she went with a pair of Bionics. They too had issues with 4G. She's now on her 3rd and 4th Bionic, with sketchy success. It's kind of a Verizon curse. It's almost like you have a 50/50 chance of unmatched blazing 4G speed, or you get something that shutters and chokes. Anyway I'm rambling...
If you're having serious issues with a device, take it back to Big Red. If it just seems like maybe a few operations are acting funny, try flashing something first.
Typed entirely by the witchcraft that is Swiftkey X on my Team Kang AOKP GNex.
NOT rooted, but problem free thank God

Who's getting rid of the note 7?

Just wondering who here is keeping the note 7 and taking the risk of it exploding? I'm happy to keep mine though little annoyed that they've stopped gear VR support and I'm 80% certain Samsung will eventually force us all to return the note 7 by maybe a software update that renders the phone useless.
I honestly have no idea what phone I'd get, I had the S7 edge as a temporary replacement phone while the recall was going on and it didn't feel as good as the note 7, the software wasn't as good and I missed the little features like the swipe gesture in the camera app for example. I still have my note 4 but it uses a different sim card so will have to get an adaptor but even then the note 4 seems really out dated in comparison but I get to keep the S-pen which is the biggest reason I got a note device in the first place. I also have a gear s2 smart watch and while it should work with other android phones it's just works better with a Samsung phone. I hope Samsung do something quick maybe release a note 8 and replace the note 7s with it lol there's just no alternatives.
What are you doing with your note 7?
Heading to VZW over lunch. No clue what I'm replacing with, or if they will even allow me yet (VZW 3rd Party).
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What are you doing with your note 7?
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Hanging on to it for as long as I possibly can. If the deadline for a replacement or refund is midnight on 31st December, I'll hand it in on 31st December.
Is a p**s take though like what about people who've brought cases for the note 7 and other accessories? I purchased my gear vr from ebay for £80 as the seller had it with the note 7 but didn't want it and I couldn't seem to find it anywhere online or in shops probably due to the recall. I had the S7 edge at the time so could still use it but now they've cut off note 7 support so I no longer can use my gear VR so I'd at least like to know exactly what's going on so I can possibly see about selling it. Add on top the money I've spent on apps which I can no long use on the gear VR it's just ridiculous. I personally wouldn't mind waiting through another recall as long as I get to keep and use the note 7 I have then just swap it for a new and hopefully completely safe note 7 but looks like the note 7 is done for.
I'm keeping mine. I will treasure it even more now knowing once it's gone, it's gone forever. Now I need to figure out a way getting rid of the 60% charging cap. I love this phone so much!
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Heading to VZW over lunch. No clue what I'm replacing with, or if they will even allow me yet (VZW 3rd Party).
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VZW was no help here. They said deal w Samsung. BS.
If I change the build.prop file, do you reckon I can trick the oculus app into thinking it's an S7 edge not a note 7?? I used it on the gear vr before the update and it seemed to work okay without getting stupidly hot even had it on charge lol.
The phones I want aren't out yet... Hoping final refund instructions come out in time to pre order the v20.. or maybe the pixel . I'm in the Philippines... Don't know how I can order the pixel lol
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VZW was no help here. They said deal w Samsung. BS.
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If not today, give it some time. This is still breaking news and info. hasn't flown down yet.
I did notice in my VZW account that my Note 7 now says "Upgrade Eligible". This wasn't there yesterday. Something on the back end happened.
At minimum, I'm going to deactivate this device and put an old phone on the account for now.
TMO has offered to exchange me out of this POS. But as others have said, there is nothing out there right now to really hold it down. So my question is this, Nougat won't be released for the N7 I suppose, what is the true lifespan of the phone with updates not being released for it? And of course, there is the explosion possibility?
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TMO has offered to exchange me out of this POS. But as others have said, there is nothing out there right now to really hold it down. So my question is this, Nougat won't be released for the N7 I suppose, what is the true lifespan of the phone with updates not being released for it? And of course, there is the explosion possibility?
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Personally - and you have to make up your own mind on this - I am not even 0.000000000001 % bothered about the "explosion risk". You have about as much chance of winning Euromillions tonight, and in my view, that is no basis to reject a piece of equipment.
The lack of updates and also dismal resale value is much more concerning.
But worse than any of that, I think Samsung will send out an update that cripples the phone. They did it with Rev.1. so I have no reason to assume they won't do the same with Rev.2. Your choice to keep it may very well be taken out of your hands, which personally, I think is disgusting.
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If not today, give it some time. This is still breaking news and info. hasn't flown down yet.
I did notice in my VZW account that my Note 7 now says "Upgrade Eligible". This wasn't there yesterday. Something on the back end happened.
At minimum, I'm going to deactivate this device and put an old phone on the account for now.
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Yeah, I'm back on my OG HTC One, lol. So far 1 hour on the phone with Samsung and everyone is clueless. About to hang up and just hit VZW again in a day or two. I have to say, though, it's irritating to be paying on a device that is powered down and not activated on my line (Edge financing).
Time to cut loses. Thats what samsung did. The phone hase become a liability. Get your money back if you can.
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Yeah, I'm back on my OG HTC One, lol. So far 1 hour on the phone with Samsung and everyone is clueless. About to hang up and just hit VZW again in a day or two. I have to say, though, it's irritating to be paying on a device that is powered down and not activated on my line (Edge financing).
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Why don't you just use it? Seriously there's been like 8 with problems out of what, 2 million, 3 million? Seriously you have more chance of being run over than having a problem with the device.
The thing with statistics is they can be unintuitive and lead to strange conclusions. Let's say one phone in every 500,000 is going to develop a fault and catch fire. From Samsung's perspective, that means they can be certain they will have lots of unhappy customers, potential lawsuits and bad publicity and therefore it's a bit of a no-brainer to stop selling it.
But from your perspective, you have a 500,000:1 on chance that your phone will have no problems. And in the remotely unlikely event that it does, how likely is it to kill you, burn your house down or anything like that. Even less likely. There are ZERO such reports.
So it's up to you, but for me, it's a no brainer to keep using it, and I hope Samsung will respect that point of view and not cripple our phones with some unnecessary and unwanted forced update.
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Personally - and you have to make up your own mind on this - I am not even 0.000000000001 % bothered about the "explosion risk". You have about as much chance of winning Euromillions tonight, and in my view, that is no basis to reject a piece of equipment.
The lack of updates and also dismal resale value is much more concerning.
But worse than any of that, I think Samsung will send out an update that cripples the phone. They did it with Rev.1. so I have no reason to assume they won't do the same with Rev.2. Your choice to keep it may very well be taken out of your hands, which personally, I think is disgusting.
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Yeah I agree I'm not so much concerned about the explosion risk but just the lack of support and updates in the future. Wish they'd just let us take the risk I for one wouldn't sue Samsung if my note 7 does explode there's little chance that you haven't heard about the issues from somewhere therefore it's not Samsung's fault that I took the risk.
What did samsung do with the phone after they recalled it, if they didn't fix the issue?
Samsung UK web site has no mention of recall for v2.
Doing nothing until Samsung (who I bought it from) contact me. Even then it won't be going back until it's knocked out by Samsung.
Rick GM said:
Samsung UK web site has no mention of recall for v2.
Doing nothing until Samsung (who I bought it from) contact me. Even then it won't be going back until it's knocked out by Samsung.
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https://twitter.com/SamsungUK/status/785863444696272896, they want UK note 7 owners to give the phone back
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Yeah I agree I'm not so much concerned about the explosion risk but just the lack of support and updates in the future. Wish they'd just let us take the risk I for one wouldn't sue Samsung if my note 7 does explode there's little chance that you haven't heard about the issues from somewhere therefore it's not Samsung's fault that I took the risk.
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Indeed. Just looking it up now, you are 500 times more likely to die from riding a motorbike than you are to have a fire with your Note 7. (Assuming 1 phone per 500,000 has a problem.)
best buy exchanged mine out with no questions asked. I was told to even keep the 256GB SD card. unfortunate I went to the dark side and got iphone7 plus. The LG was just cheap and I was unimpressed. Buying the Google Pixel XL outright to bring over to Sprint was not a option for me. I am done with Sammy with all the issues I have had with there products since the Note 4 and other house hold appliances. Iphone was my only option.

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