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Oh my goodness, I can't get over how slim and light the Nexus is and how beautiful the screen is!
I almost got a G2 a couple days ago so I understand. Might still get one or a nexus 2.
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you should be posting in the Nexus s section lol enjoy the phone
Lol...the sharks.
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I'm going to wait a few weeks and see if there's any chance of a Sprint Nexus S. If not, I'll probably get it too. T-Mo is as cheap and even with a regular 3G radio under HSPA it's much faster than Sprint's 3G.
You'll all be back when the next version of the Evo comes out. ;-)
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I'm going to wait a few weeks and see if there's any chance of a Sprint Nexus S. If not, I'll probably get it too. T-Mo is as cheap and even with a regular 3G radio under HSPA it's much faster than Sprint's 3G.
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This is true. And the individual plans are pretty much the same now. Sprint needs a nexus. But the knight is coming soon. Its basically the G2 with sense.
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My contract was exactly the same price. The only difference now is that I have 1500 "anytime" minutes as opposed to Sprint's unlimited mobile-to-mobile (which I can live without).
not bashing anyone that get's the nexus S but i messed with a buddies and imho it feels samsungish cheap and plastic i DO love the screen and how the phone has a slight curve
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You'll all be back when the next version of the Evo comes out. ;-)
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Swyped from Eva running Myn's RLS4!
If only it wasn't a Samsung, though having Google involved should speed up the response time on software fixes.
No thanks, its definately not a phone worth jumping carriers for...Actually I dont think that type of phone exists. Its a minor improvement to the epic, on a crap network. I aint missing out on anything, however there is a dual core 1.5 gz monster that is going to appear in a few weeks......(cough *Evo2*cough) and that will be exciting to see. Nexus S, not so much.
Yea, made by Samsung killed any excitement I had for this phone right away! I would like to play with one in person to check out the screen, the curve and of course 2.3
But the only phone that made me consider jumping carriers was the g2, even then I couldn't see it, but definitely not for anythign Samsung. I do hope being a google dev phone that it is still somewhat as successful as the n1 was... for the sake of androids future.
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Yea, made by Samsung killed any excitement I had for this phone right away! I would like to play with one in person to check out the screen, the curve and of course 2.3
But the only phone that made me consider jumping carriers was the g2, even then I couldn't see it, but definitely not for anythign Samsung. I do hope being a google dev phone that it is still somewhat as successful as the n1 was... for the sake of androids future.
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Not sure if thats gonna happen. People are already calling BS on TMO for claiming that its really not unlocked....even though best buy said it is....So people are ending up paying alot more for it than they expected....Shame on TMO. lol
Congrats on the phone! Like many others said, it is unfortunate that it is a Samsung, hopefully Google backs it well. Unfortunately, with every Samsung phone I have ever had the hardware was complete crap, always had problems. AND I find it interesting that the phone came out today and there still is not a root method for the phone. I remember before the Evo even came out we had a root method. I think that this shows something for the developer in interest in the phone itself. Only time will tell and I may be proved wrong, but so far its not looking too good.
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Congrats on the phone! Like many others said, it is unfortunate that it is a Samsung, hopefully Google backs it well. Unfortunately, with every Samsung phone I have ever had the hardware was complete crap, always had problems. AND I find it interesting that the phone came out today and there still is not a root method for the phone. I remember before the Evo even came out we had a root method. I think that this shows something for the developer in interest in the phone itself. Only time will tell and I may be proved wrong, but so far its not looking too good.
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epic was also rooted before its release.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=479959#post479959
its rooted
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epic was also rooted before its release.
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Hmmm not sure what your trying to say here. That is pretty interesting maybe I am wrong about support but in just black and white it seems like thats the case.
It is Samsung ... but it's also the only Samsung phone I'd even consider buying. Gotta agree though, got a good thing going with the Evo and Sprint is great around here - so it wouldn't make sense to switch phones ... let alone a carrier. And even if T-Mo speeds are faster on 3G than Sprints ... depending on coverage, that still doesn't excuse the lack of HSPA+ or no SD Card ... I dunno. I still hear people complaining about signal / reception with T-Mo. Just doesn't really make sense when you think of what is around the corner.
There will always be better phones. Always. But there will only be one (annual) true Google phone. That's it's main selling point for me. Everything Google (and a lot of top 3rd party developers) makes in 2011 will be based on the Nexus S.
I am starting to believe Verizon is pushing the date back to push more RAZR's and Rezounds. Some have said 11-21 and now this http://androidcommunity.com/latest-...ch-date-pushed-back-to-december-8th-20111118/ . Fun fun fun. Could be a legit photo or not, any thoughts team?
I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.
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I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.
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Makes me wonder why do they even bother to pick the phone up? I mean I know Verizon wants to bloat the crud out of all their phones, lock booloaders up. There hasn't been much advertising for the Nexus either compared to say the Bionic and RAZR. Another main concern for them is probably the tethering issue for starters. That and they probably wont make as much money since they cant push their crapware market on the Nexus.
Or, you know, maybe Verizon is testing the device, making Google fix any bugs before it gets deployed, and thus don't know the exact date it'll be ready because new bugs may crop up.
Read some of the other threads here about the initial bugs people are experiencing. I'm actually kind of glad that Verizon is taking their time (assuming, of course, that they are really doing due diligence and not just trying to sell more RAZRs).
Also, the bugs being reported here seems to confirm this source: http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...thread-12-8-release-date-648.html#post3478434
This source claims that Verizon was still testing the device and had bugs crop up, but they weren't serious enough to postpone the launch. Well, maybe it turned out to be more serious than they thought and they had to postpone it. Maybe it was the very same volume control bug being reported here...
I have also read reports that the phone is done, ready, and capable of being sold, BUT, VZW is holding off due the poor sales of the Razr & Rezound which of course why would they suck. Crippled, bloated, and forced to wait 9+ months post next OS or bug fix update no thanks.
While I am not loving my iP4S as much as I thought I would (can't wait to sell it and get a G-Nex ASAP) at least the OS updates come right out from Apple with NO CARRIER DELAY. This is the reason I want a Nexus device so I can do more and get more out of it especially with CM9 coming. Which is the way I will likely rely on updates and fixes and NOT Google/Verizon/Samsung.
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I am starting to believe Verizon is pushing the date back to push more RAZR's and Rezounds. Some have said 11-21 and now this http://androidcommunity.com/latest-...ch-date-pushed-back-to-december-8th-20111118/ . Fun fun fun. Could be a legit photo or not, any thoughts team?
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I honestly believe Verizon doesn't want the Nexus line of phones to succeed. Google made a huge mistake partnering with Verizon.
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Its a combination of both these things.
Google was either stupid or clueless. Knowing those two phones were coming then giving VZ exclusivity borders on the retarded.
When you see the success off the SGS2 its dumbfounding that Samsung would go along with there device being limited to a carrier with no interest in truly flags hipping there device.
Well,
looking at the handful of these that are out in action, and all the issues, I would doubt even the 8th for Verizon. I mean, they are not going to put a product out there if the end result is people just returning them. Especially in the US where VZ is the only drinking fountain for the Nexus.
Someone who is not in anticipation of the Nexus, wandering in to VZ, is going to see the face unlock and the dazzling screen, and say "cool, I want it!" Then when they wonder why there are issues with video and Flash, that they are used to, and if the power consumption of LTE mirrors that of the smaller battery non-LTE, they will want thier money back.
No one really knows what the extent of the issues are because there are just not that many of these phones in service yet. If and when VZ starts selling the Nexus, then you will see what the extent of the issues are, unless they take care of them prior to putting them out for sale.
So I am sure I am not the only person who has (or had) a Vibrant. I am sure the development that is being done on the SGS2 is quality, but there isn't much in the way of quantity (which doesn't always mean much). Am I justified at all in worrying about all this? Does everyone feel satisfied with the amount of development going on for what is still a relatively new phone?
I was considering the Galaxy Nexus, just for the faster updates and solidarity (as opposed to having a different CPU than other similar phones), however the SGS2 hardware is tempting.
I am trying to tell myself that with ICS I can hang onto my Vibrant a bit longer to wait for more options and such, but I want a new phone so bad, and right now the only obvious phone I can pick up easily is the GS2. I am just hesitant after the fiasco with the Vibrant. It's also been so long that it seems like I could wait it out just a tiny bit longer and get the next gen stuff.
(I know the argument about how you can always wait longer, but it has been months since the GS2 landed in the US and it will probably be a month before I am ready to buy a new phone with the holiday season upon us)
Unless you are willing to buy a Euro version of the Nexus outright, you'll be waiting atleast several months for it to be released by tmo. Not to mention if it comes spec'd the same as the vzw version, you won't have expandable memory. Cyanogen is actively devving for this phone and once we get ICS, I think it will be very competitive with the GN.
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What about the low resolution of the phone? Can that be addressed by a new ROM or ICS?
No it can't be changed. You can mess with the density to make it look HD but I don't notice anything "low" about our resolution as it is. I love this phone.
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It is by no means low resolution.
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What about the low resolution of the phone? Can that be addressed by a new ROM or ICS?
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all the HD games tittle you see advertized are for our current resolution 480x800
480x800 has been considered HD for the longest time, for the past 3 years. it is a standard that all game developer codes for
if you read over the Galaxy Nexus forum the 720 resolution is causing havok on a lot of apps and games...
so go figure
on a side note, here some food for thoughts
DVD quality = 480x800
Blueray 1.0 quality = 720x1280
Blueray 2.0 quality = 1280x1080
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I was considering the Galaxy Nexus, just for the faster updates and solidarity (as opposed to having a different CPU than other similar phones), however the SGS2 hardware is tempting.
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read this while you are still considering it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362556
also there's an existing topic about SGN vs SGS2 T989 right here in the forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372420
Galaxy nexus will be released in 3 days. I'm also tempted in using buyers remorse for the nexus. The sgs2 hardware is better IMHO. We'll be getting ics. Early 2012 we just gotta wait for a driver leak.
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well in Canada the GN is going to be released tomorrow http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19918706
but i'm not crazy enough to go line up for the first day of launch
specially when i'm not even in the mood to get that bug ridden phone, perhaps when they add microSD and a Quad core SOC to it, i'll probably go for it
To me it came down to cost. I had been waiting to upgrade my vibrant to the nexus prime forever. But word is that the nexus prime will cost $299 with full discount which means not only will I have to pay more per month to switch to verizon (currently paying $50 a month for unlimited with no contract), I would also have to pay more out of pocket for the initial device purchase (Ended up getting my GS2 for $380 new in box still no contract from craigslist)
That finally pushed me to go ahead and get a GS2.
I am still very concerned about ICS support. I also felt like the vibrant got screwed on gingerbread (GPS, bluetooth, and camera still suck on GB roms) so I am extremely worried about how ICS will end up. But I am fairly confident that ICS will eventually be released for the device officially (it will be later than they claim)
Something people overlook is that the Galaxy S2 is THE best selling Android phone of all time. That means that it's going to be the de facto for Android development for some time to come. Developers will want to make apps that run well specifically on this phone. Remember, just because faster, more powerful phones are on the horizon doesn't mean that the GS2 will be obsolete any time soon.
I have no doubt that it will also be an overall better phone than the Nexus once it gets ICS. Yes the 720p display on the Nexus is nice, but unnecessary. It's a 4.65 inch screen, for Pete's sake. If you doubt the GS2 screen, just go to your local t-mobile shop and pick one up. Your doubts will be put to rest.
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Something people overlook is that the Galaxy S2 is THE best selling Android phone of all time. That means that it's going to be the de facto for Android development for some time to come. Developers will want to make apps that run well specifically on this phone. Remember, just because faster, more powerful phones are on the horizon doesn't mean that the GS2 will be obsolete any time soon.
I have no doubt that it will also be an overall better phone than the Nexus once it gets ICS. Yes the 720p display on the Nexus is nice, but unnecessary. It's a 4.65 inch screen, for Pete's sake. If you doubt the GS2 screen, just go to your local t-mobile shop and pick one up. Your doubts will be put to rest.
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I think you mean "THE Galaxy S2", on Tmobile we find ourselves with a significantly different phone yet again. At least this time there is only one on Tmobile. However with different processors on our phones it won't be as simple to translate development over (however being that its a Qualcomm it seems likely that it will be pretty simple all the same, but I have no idea).
My point was it doesn't matter what carrier you are on or what country you are in if I get a GSM GN (possibly excluding VZW).
I know that people here are going to probably defend the SGS2 because that's what they have, but no one has really answered my question and instead commented on my thoughts.
There doesn't seem to be a LOT of development (I have the assumption based on the opinions that what is there is high quality though).
Furthermore, I am not on contract, so I get no discounts on phones, making the GN only about 100 bucks more than the SGS2.
Pointing out the GN flaws is a good call, I haven't been keeping up with that and mostly watching this forum as, like I mentioned, the appeal that I can walk on down to the store and get one makes it a possible buy.
The SD card is something I would prefer, but I don't need. I was prepared to go down to 16gb but hoping for a 32gb.
The major appeal is how many people are still happy with their Nexus S. The Nexus phones just have a longer life span because they come out about once a year and Google supports them.
Some other phones get a similar treatment, but it seems to be a higher risk. Samsung has already mentioned they are working on the SGS3, meaning SGS3 updates will come even slower (I presume though that there is probably still AT LEAST most of a year before we start to see them). I just like the idea of carrying around a little Google baby.
And I am not saying anything bad about the SGS2, I am just skeptical after the whole Vibrant thing (or the SGS in general since as far as I heard GB isn't on most devices, and those that got it got it way late). The hardware looks amazing, and honestly I like the idea of the captive buttons vs only virtual buttons (I like my menu button tyvm). If CM9 is out and I haven't upgraded I will probably go for the SGS2 and put CM9 on it right away, but otherwise I will be worried about the software. Seems like it took a little hollering to get CM support (I could be misunderstanding that thread), so what happens with CM10+? I suppose there will be developers who will porting stuff over, probably.
So that's that. I figure most of this post is futile any way as it seems people get a little defensive about their choices and get upset when you make counter points. I suppose that is somewhat helpful though as it does still compare things, just one sided.
I will end up probably reading one thing online somewhere that will randomly cause me to make up my mind and then just be blissfully ignorant of what I am missing. So oh wells. Thanks for the input so far guys.
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I think you mean "THE Galaxy S2", on Tmobile we find ourselves with a significantly different phone yet again. At least this time there is only one on Tmobile. However with different processors on our phones it won't be as simple to translate development over (however being that its a Qualcomm it seems likely that it will be pretty simple all the same, but I have no idea).
My point was it doesn't matter what carrier you are on or what country you are in if I get a GSM GN (possibly excluding VZW).
I know that people here are going to probably defend the SGS2 because that's what they have, but no one has really answered my question and instead commented on my thoughts.
There doesn't seem to be a LOT of development (I have the assumption based on the opinions that what is there is high quality though).
Furthermore, I am not on contract, so I get no discounts on phones, making the GN only about 100 bucks more than the SGS2.
Pointing out the GN flaws is a good call, I haven't been keeping up with that and mostly watching this forum as, like I mentioned, the appeal that I can walk on down to the store and get one makes it a possible buy.
The SD card is something I would prefer, but I don't need. I was prepared to go down to 16gb but hoping for a 32gb.
The major appeal is how many people are still happy with their Nexus S. The Nexus phones just have a longer life span because they come out about once a year and Google supports them.
Some other phones get a similar treatment, but it seems to be a higher risk. Samsung has already mentioned they are working on the SGS3, meaning SGS3 updates will come even slower (I presume though that there is probably still AT LEAST most of a year before we start to see them). I just like the idea of carrying around a little Google baby.
And I am not saying anything bad about the SGS2, I am just skeptical after the whole Vibrant thing (or the SGS in general since as far as I heard GB isn't on most devices, and those that got it got it way late). The hardware looks amazing, and honestly I like the idea of the captive buttons vs only virtual buttons (I like my menu button tyvm). If CM9 is out and I haven't upgraded I will probably go for the SGS2 and put CM9 on it right away, but otherwise I will be worried about the software. Seems like it took a little hollering to get CM support (I could be misunderstanding that thread), so what happens with CM10+? I suppose there will be developers who will porting stuff over, probably.
So that's that. I figure most of this post is futile any way as it seems people get a little defensive about their choices and get upset when you make counter points. I suppose that is somewhat helpful though as it does still compare things, just one sided.
I will end up probably reading one thing online somewhere that will randomly cause me to make up my mind and then just be blissfully ignorant of what I am missing. So oh wells. Thanks for the input so far guys.
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I realize the hardware is different among the different carrier GS2's. What I was referring to is the overall specifications (dual core processor ~ 1.2-1.5 ghz, 1gig of ram, etc.) when I mentioned the developer support.
In regards to your concern about the screen, I can only tell you that I did a lot of shopping around, testing out different phones and the GS2 screen does not disappoint. IMO, it is overall better than the ones found in the Razr and Rezound, which both offer higher resolutions, so keep in mind that resolution isn't everything.
At this point just wait a couple days until the Nexus is out and give it a hands on. Until you have the device in your hand, you can't really tell how it's going to taste to you. I was infatuated with the Motorola Razr until I actually held one in my hand and hated just about everything about it. The super-thin profile felt terrible in my hands, the noticeable pixels on the screen were distracting, it got way too hot to hold up to my ear, other than the speakers and software (I actually like Moto-blur), it was a complete failure to me. So you never know until you try it.
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I realize the hardware is different among the different carrier GS2's. What I was referring to is the overall specifications (dual core processor ~ 1.2-1.5 ghz, 1gig of ram, etc.) when I mentioned the developer support.
In regards to your concern about the screen, I can only tell you that I did a lot of shopping around, testing out different phones and the GS2 screen does not disappoint. IMO, it is overall better than the ones found in the Razr and Rezound, which both offer higher resolutions, so keep in mind that resolution isn't everything.
At this point just wait a couple days until the Nexus is out and give it a hands on. Until you have the device in your hand, you can't really tell how it's going to taste to you. I was infatuated with the Motorola Razr until I actually held one in my hand and hated just about everything about it. The super-thin profile felt terrible in my hands, the noticeable pixels on the screen were distracting, it got way too hot to hold up to my ear, other than the speakers and software (I actually like Moto-blur), it was a complete failure to me. So you never know until you try it.
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Thanks, but someone else mentioned the screen, not me. I am not worried about the screen, it would have the same resolution as my current phone so I wouldn't know the difference.
Any way, you may have understood this but it was ambiguous: Yes I know the hardware specs are nice (I believe I stated that they were potentially better) but more people would have the exact same GN as opposed to people with the exact same SGS2. It might not matter though, I have no developing experience (I considered it, but I barely passed my Java course 6 years ago) so I might be wrong in thinking that it will be hard to work with stuff for the international one and put it on the tmobile version. I mean it might be simple if it's just drivers since qualcomm drivers would not be hard to find.
Furthermore, I am already being spoiled with ICS and just want it now.
The thing is, the reason I ask here instead of in the GN forum is that I really want to want the SGS2 (well, and people here have looked as the GN where as people there might have never looked at -specifically- the tmobile sgs2). I am actually likely to walk into a tmobile store and walk out with a phone over the winter break, and I don't think I would be able to help myself if there was a stable ICS rom by then.
BUT the fact that Nexuses last so long makes me wonder if I will be whimpering about how I could have got one and didn't, then again the next nexus will be starting to solidify by then.
Regarding the CM10 bit...
The good news is that once a Device is officially in a previous generation of CM, for example all devices on CM6 are automatically included in CM7 and when CM9 is out, all the CM7 devices will get CM9
so in a way, it's a better guaranteed than stock ICS from Google which only goes as far back as 1 year of support, even the Nexus ONE got removed from Google's support list, in the end the Dev had to make their own PORT / build of ICS for Nexus One, as the regular ICS is not hardware compatible according to Google.
so if our device gets supported officially in CM7 and CM9, it will automatically be included in CM10
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Regarding the CM10 bit...
The good news is that once a Device is officially in a previous generation of CM, for example all devices on CM6 are automatically included in CM7 and when CM9 is out, all the CM7 devices will get CM9
so in a way, it's a better guaranteed than stock ICS from Google which only goes as far back as 1 year of support, even the Nexus ONE got removed from Google's support list, in the end the Dev had to make their own PORT / build of ICS for Nexus One, as the regular ICS is not hardware compatible according to Google.
so if our device gets supported officially in CM7 and CM9, it will automatically be included in CM10
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Then how come my G1 is only unofficially supported in cm7? They can stop supporting something, they might not, but they can. And if they just stop using a device, they aren't going to be able to continue working on it. For instance I heard rumor that the Vibrant will no longer be officially supported, and it only got 7/7.1...
What they say is as long as they support it they will continue to do what they can, but they do drop support on phones as they have to over time.
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https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
As device screen resolution goes up, achieving a 60fps UI is closely related to GPU speed and especially the GPU’s memory bus bandwidth. In fact, if you want to get an idea of the performance of a piece of hardware, always pay close attention to the memory bus bandwidth. There are plenty of times where the CPU (especially with those wonderful NEON instructions) can go a lot faster than the memory bus.
in that scenario i see more benefit to have 800x480 than the newer higher resolutions
i can understand your feeling completely
It would seem like everybody is either dodging or are too wrapped around the Euro-GS2 to answer your question...i myself have been wondering if there is going to be more custom roms, kernels & etc...i've heard that team whiskey & CM should be cooking roms real soon for the t-mobile galaxy s2. I do believe all this waiting is related to the qualcomm chip in the phone versus the exynos processor in all the other gs2 variants...I just hope this isn't gonna be like theyre doing just bc they don't wanna leave the t-mobile one out of development...but if you do test out the galaxy nexus and like it then go with it, one thing is true about those nexus phones, they are always the first to get those updates...it really comes down to what you want to do, wait a little bit for more roms or etc.
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Then how come my G1 is only unofficially supported in cm7? They can stop supporting something, they might not, but they can. And if they just stop using a device, they aren't going to be able to continue working on it. For instance I heard rumor that the Vibrant will no longer be officially supported, and it only got 7/7.1...
What they say is as long as they support it they will continue to do what they can, but they do drop support on phones as they have to over time.
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You have reservations strong enough that I would say dont get the SGSII, you wont be fully happy. Based on what you said, you should buy the unlocked galaxy nexus they are selling now ($800), or wait for the verizon version. You may regret not getting the SGSII, but I would hardly think that the Nexus would be significantly worse. If anything you would just regret paying more for a similar phone.
agree re: getting SGN instead of SGS2
specially when the OP did mention the lack of SD card is not a biggie
for me the lack of SD card was a major deal breaker, so the T989 was my only choice of good phone for AWS 1700+2100 networks
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
if it doesnt launch friday ill be buying something else, i'm getting sick of using my cracked thunderbolt and even more sick of waiting
I don't think they ever officially stated a day. I've thought for a while that they would release it with some clause that said no worry free guarantee exchanges for this device since a lot of people are planning on returning their razr or rezound too.. we'll see.
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I called Verizon yesterday, the 1800#, and they confirmed the 9th, so this has to be a change if true
I can't wait until this thing is released, not because I want to get it but so these threads will end.
Wait for it or buy online like most people did here
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
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Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
this is what i know verizon has a **** load of iphone and razrs! wouldn't you try and get the most out of your inventory? i wouldn't want to price cut just to sell if i didn't have to, or at least prolong a long as possible
Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
I'm pissed!!! I'm shipping out my G2x Friday and thus wont have a phone until they get off their ass.
The phones are sitting in their stores. Its a little too late.
Verizon usually releases phones on Fridays? So of it misses this Friday, it won't be available until next Friday?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
randypurcz said:
Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
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Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
RVDigital said:
They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
Luxferro said:
Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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I'll agree that the pricing is outrageous, but until someone with an equal or better network (see: competition) comes along, Verizon will be the status quo as far as high quality networks are concerned.
I don't think the latest delay has anything to do with the Nexus as much as it has to do with the overall network from a QoS standpoint. As a network technician myself, I can tell you that the issues being described with LTE SIM Card Authentication warrant a "freeze" until the problem is rectified. Why introduce a large amount of new devices onto the network without resolving the problem first?
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
criDikal said:
anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010
Funny I went looking for release dates. Mondays and Thursdays seem pretty common for Verizon. Also funny is the original 11/21 release date (I'm sure it was even earlier then that).
You know I've been on both sides. Push the release date until it's ready and people complain. Release the phone before its ready and people complain. Coming from a LG G2x, I can honestly say releasing the phone before it was ready was good for me but not for the population as a whole. The negative feedback it received as a "faulty device" forever scarred its name.
eallan said:
Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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Motorola isn't exactly known for making phones that aren't riddled with bugs.....
This sounds more like something with Verizon's LTE network and not something to do specifically with the phones themselves.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010
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thanks!
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termleech said:
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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Sigh... its pointless waiting for this phone.
I really think Google needs to do a HUGE investment into the Development and QA department for Android. Android is huge and requires more attention then they are giving it. Google really needs to get more hands on Android and better testing so less buggy software gets out of the gate.
I have owned all of the Nexus phones and they are always pretty buggy until a few updates later.
I currently have to deal with slow screen rotation, multi-touch issues, laggy landscape keyboard response and crashes, SMS text bugs, Wifi bugs to name a few. How in the hell did the slow screen rotation and laggy landscape response go unnoticed is beyond me. I noticed it the first day i got the phone.
The NEXUS brand should come to an end, its essentially just like buying an iphone…….you pay extra for it, and its no better than anything else out there, or less than anything else out there.
The problem is Nexus is no longer a developer phone. Its now a brand. I knew i was not getting this nexus because sammy had there hands on it.
are you on 4.0.1?, 4.0.2? 4.0.3?
is your phone rooted?
are you running the GSM version or the CDMA version of the galaxy nexus?
is it stock android O.S.?
I don't have any of those issues on mine....
I'm running stock 4.0.2, getting software updates firectly from Google not samsung.
Everyone says the only reason you should buy Nexus phones is because they are so much better than other manufacturers phones. I'm not talking about rooting and such, because you can do that too with other phones and it would be the same.
It’s not just about timely updates. Even the 4.0.3 source code has bugs. This means that all these devices based off 4.0.3 can (and might) have the bugs as well. Then, you have to wait for Google to update the source and maybe just maybe your manufacturer of choice will update your phone before moving onto something else.
Well don't buy a Nexus device again. Then you don't have to worry about those problems, and the people who love the Nexus phone can continue to love it whilst you love your Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus thing that you buy.
Thats the good thing about Android, you have choice. Your opinion doesn't mean anything, Google aren't going to do anything about it. Find a phone that you like and use it.
Also, have you ever used another Android phone other then the Nexus? Carrier bloat and skins make me shudder.
I disagree with the paying extra. It's essentially like buying any other phone whereas, the iPhone would be $100-$300 more than other phones depending on the sku. I have no complaints with my Nexus but I'm not trying to argue with your dissatisfaction or defend the brand, I just don't see the paying extra part which obviously varies from country to country.
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mines never been laggy works really great
Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.
retskrad said:
I'm running stock 4.0.2, getting software updates firectly from Google not samsung.
Everyone says the only reason you should buy Nexus phones is because they are so much better than other manufacturers phones. I'm not talking about rooting and such, because you can do that too with other phones and it would be the same.
It’s not just about timely updates. Even the 4.0.3 source code has bugs. This means that all these devices based off 4.0.3 can (and might) have the bugs as well. Then, you have to wait for Google to update the source and maybe just maybe your manufacturer of choice will update your phone before moving onto something else.
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Rooting is one thing, but we like the nexus because of its bootloader and lack of bloat. Let's face it, iphone is easy mode, android(nexus) is expert mode.
Easy mode is... well.. easy. It is easy to master but gets stale incredibly fast and is lacking in features. Expert mode you have to read a couple forums, do a little tweaking, but in the end you get a pro longed satisfying experience that is rich in features and really let's you become... a superuser.
Ps rotation delay is a feature, just tap the screen for it to rotate faster.
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MistaBishi said:
Well don't buy a Nexus device again. Then you don't have to worry about those problems, and the people who love the Nexus phone can continue to love it whilst you love your Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus thing that you buy.
Thats the good thing about Android, you have choice. Your opinion doesn't mean anything, Google aren't going to do anything about it. Find a phone that you like and use it.
Also, have you ever used another Android phone other then the Nexus? Carrier bloat and skins make me shudder.
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I wanna try out the Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus.
Just for a little input, the rotation "Lag" that you talk about is supposed to be there. People were complaining that there phone would rotate to easily so they made lag so that just tilting your phone for a second wouldn't rotate it you had to actually want to rotate it. Takes an extra second, if that.
Also, ICS was released, you knew that when you bought the phone, you expect a completely clean product the second it comes out? Look at Apple with there battery bug, no OS comes out without it's fare share of bugs, Android is no different.
Also also, why cancel an entire line of phones because you have one mad customer? You don't.
Finally, Google picks a different handset maker every year to make their "Nexus" phone, just because "sammy" made it doesn't take away from the fact that it's a Nexus. Go buy a Razr with Motoblur and enjoy having a "Bug free enviroment" on an OS that is over a year old.
retskrad said:
Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.
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OK fair enough but its pretty much an unspoken rule that you have to flash the **** out of a nexus phone. Unlocked bootloader and all that. Aosp etc.
Not being smart but you don't buy a formula one car to bring the kids to school.
retskrad said:
Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.
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We considered that, and nobody cares. Thats the way the phone is, stop complaining about it and do something about it. We aren't you brain, do some thinking for yourself.
Root your phone if you want to fix the issues, or wait for Google to issue an update.
Nexus phones have historically been far cheaper than average. N1 and nexus s both sold for $529 from day 1. Only the Gnex broke this tradition.
Typical phone launches higher than $600.
anton2009 said:
I wanna try out the Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus.
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Na man, it's terrible. It's running this MotoTouchSenseWizBlur software. It's the worst skin out of the lot!
lol what kind of topic is this? nexus brand should to an end pfff
sorry to all hear you have all those bugs, im glad AOKP is smoother than ever on my nex
For reference, my last phone was a Palm Centro. Lasted 5+ years, bugs and all. I also work in the computer hardware industry, so while I am new to the current smartphone format and OS, I am versed in technology.
If you wanted something that was already polished out of the box, that's where the other Android and iPhone comes in. Works well out of the box depending on the model. If you want a 'pure' Android experience, the G. Nexus is the appealing one. I think in this case 'pure' is a bad word choice, as it denotes only good. However, it is both good and bad. In the 3 months I've owned the phone. I've def. thought to myself "****! I've got to fix this again!" AND "holy crap! this is way cooler than iOS!" It sucks that you have to extensively play with the phone, but once you do, the opportunities are much more appealing.
TL; DR: Don't buy something like a Nexus if you don't want to transform it to it's full potential.
Why are people still on stock on the Nexus....its a NEXUS!!
ITS A DEV PHONE!!!
you are SUPPOSED to hack it!!!
don't complain if stock doesn't have all that you want..
btw...i was on stock for 2 days...no bugs.
Ived owned two nexus phones and theyve been the best phones I have ever owned. Sometimes they do lack the performance other Androids have but the support/development for this phone is the best IMO.
Can we stop making these useless threads about how "Google is ignoring us", cause I can guarantee you they are probably working their asses off trying to get the next update to us before I/O.