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hey guys,
i have herd that windows mobile 7 has been launched by microsoft
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-is-official-and-microsoft-is-playing-to/
any chance of porting that rom to touch diamond ?
aali-01 said:
hey guys,
i have herd that windows mobile 7 has been launched by microsoft
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/windows-phone-7-series-is-official-and-microsoft-is-playing-to/
any chance of porting that rom to touch diamond ?
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Really??? Are you sure? It's not a joke or a fake? Soooo
The Diamond has a fast CPU: the Qualcomm MSM7201A running at 528MHz
Minimum hardware requirements for Windows Phone 7 :
The minimum requirements for the CPU are 1GHz ... AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!
Is Windows Phone 7 really for phones ?
Even if a port will be made for our Diamond, it will be very slow.
forhimandus said:
The Diamond has a fast CPU: the Qualcomm MSM7201A running at 528MHz
Minimum hardware requirements for Windows Phone 7 :
The minimum requirements for the CPU are 1GHz ... AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!
Is Windows Phone 7 really for phones ?
Even if a port will be made for our Diamond, it will be very slow.
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I am not sure about that.
They're saying that it works faster than 6.5
Also, Microsoft requires that 1 Ghz processor so they're sure that there won't be people saying: 'it's laggy'.
Also, in that way they're sure that their software is only running on hardware that's more than enough so they won't be blamed for a laggy OS.
any idea when it would be out in the market?
and that processor requirement is a real setback for me
First phones are planned for October so dont expect it any time soon.
Hi guys.
Do you know samsung galaxy 551? It looks like wave 533 (size, screen resolution), but it has android instead of bada.
Would it be possible to flash 551's FW into wave 533/525/723?
Thanks.
hey man dont just dream in the sky..
comebach to the earth and deal with reality.
agreed that it can be possible but its not so easy as you think it to be.
oleg_k and other devs are engaged in android port for senior wave since long time but still there is no way out there for a functional port.
m90ultimate said:
hey man dont just dream in the sky..
comebach to the earth and deal with reality.
agreed that it can be possible but its not so easy as you think it to be.
oleg_k and other devs are engaged in android port for senior wave since long time but still there is no way out there for a functional port.
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So, don't forget that LG released Froyo for KH5200 and actually is used also for GW620 (officialy unsupported). I transformed my wife's GW620 in froyo 3 days ago with LG official release for KH5200, everything is ok and more fest than GW620's Cupcake. Never say never, she (sirlene) said that because she hopes that can help port devs to see this and test it if is possible.
Plese put here a discussion were anyone was tested a 551 fw in 533 or 525/ or 23 and finally you will be right.
I'm not fighting, this is just an earful.
there is a big difference between using a different Android platform on a device that ALREADY uses android, and putting android on a device that uses a COMPLETELY different OS core (bada with Nucleus kernel).
Maybe. but gislene said that because she believes 533 maybe is same or compatible hardware from 551. that's the point.
Is like compare a PC with linux or windows. and I can't use my OSes from my Phenom II X4 in my Atom 330 PC, but I can use Linux or Windows instead.
And finally, if I change my Atom 330 PC HDD to my Atom 230 PC the system works fine, not the same hardware but is same chipsets and compatilble processor
Think this =]
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Maybe. but gislene said that because she believes 533 maybe is same or compatible hardware from 551. that's the point.
Is like compare a PC with linux or windows. and I can't use my OSes from my Phenom II X4 in my Atom 330 PC, but I can use Linux or Windows instead.
And finally, if I change my Atom 330 PC HDD to my Atom 230 PC the system works fine, not the same hardware but is same chipsets and compatilble processor
Think this =]
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Then try this and brick your phone... If you read the Android porting thread you will see that it's not as easy as one thinks...
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Maybe. but gislene said that because she believes 533 maybe is same or compatible hardware from 551. that's the point.
Is like compare a PC with linux or windows. and I can't use my OSes from my Phenom II X4 in my Atom 330 PC, but I can use Linux or Windows instead.
And finally, if I change my Atom 330 PC HDD to my Atom 230 PC the system works fine, not the same hardware but is same chipsets and compatilble processor
Think this =]
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..but PC have not a locked bootloader and a mobile os it's not like that of a desktop
hardware seems also different, galaxy seems more powerfull but no info about cpu model of wave 723:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2582&view=1&c=samsung_gt-i5510_galaxy_551
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Wave-723_id4867
Ya guys, I know, but m90ultimate was very rude with gislene and don't understood what she really tried to be grasped.
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gislene said that because she believes 533 maybe is same or compatible hardware from 551.
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The hope was that devices have very similar engineering. I know the processors are quite different, the huge Cortex 1GHz architecture is not like a simple ARM 650MHz, but I really can't say if the simple ARM system will not work in Cortex processor. And maybe the system inside have I/O compatibility with some Samsung models, to simplify the production. Korean mobile brands always make this (Ezio, LG and Samsung), using the same Qualcomm or MediaTek like chipsets for all line production with same RTOS layer.
I exemplified with PC to explain what she said. And I know the protection layer of Bada devices is so hard to be unbreaked, not so simple like install a new OS in PC or change HDDs.
And really who try that is because have enough knowledge in how to unbrick and recover the device if the other fw don't work, is not a "dream in the sky".
PS: If I reprogram my PC BIOS with other MoBo BIOS possibly will brick it and maybe burn it! thats obvious!
why we want to port WP7 on wave?
1. at this moment all wp7 phones use same CPU (QSD 8250) and it's GPU was "Adreno 200" --- (SGX543MP2(iPad2) > SGX 543 = Adreno 220 > SGX540 (@300MHz) > Geforce ULP [Tegra2] > SGX 540 (@200MHz) = Mali -400 >> Adreno 205 > SGX 535 >> Adreno 200 = SGX 530.)
2. Our wave have the SGX540 GPU,if wp7 port on wave i think it'll more fast than Adreno 200
3. i hear some news ,microsoft will Release a tool it can port almost all android APP to WP7 so in the Future WP7 will be the NO1
4. wp7 more fast than android
I known it's very hard to do ,it just my opinion if it's wrong please forgive me
sorry for my bad english
3 or 4 users work on Android port, without full function... so NOT successfully finished. Since months.
If you have free time, please start with your project to port WP7...
We all count on you.
Good Luck
Its very hard to port the WP7 to wave because WP7 used only qualcomm processer so far but wave using hummingbird processer..porting android is somewhat easier than WP7 because galaxy s and wave almost share the same hardware..also i dont think you can achieve solid performance in wave with other os..
yes winphone 7 has 18 points at the html5 test, even bada 1.2 has 187 very inteligent. a system that can nothing even playing divx to port it on a device that has a system that can more. you should by a phone7 device, than we all are happy.
Of course, bada is a good system
I think that we don't obtain a significative advance in porting Windows Phone 7 to our waves, because Win7 doesn't have much more apps and it is not as extended as Android. You can try with MeeGo or Maemo but the result will be the same: not a really benefit.
The only OSs which are really interesting are iOS (extremely difficult to port) and Android (which oleg_k and the other devs are working at).
yes android is the best os to port, and maybe ios, would also be possible the wave and iphone are nearly the same in things of hardware.
Porting ANY closed-source operating system is next to impossible. The effort required for such a task is way out of scale and would require dozens of high class experts doing disassembly and binary patching, custom drivers, etc.
Phones hardware platforms are based on dedicated PCB layouts and even having same components in different phones gives no guarantee they are connected same way, to same processor PINs, not mentioning that same processor types come in different packaging. When the phone is not based on the very SAME board as 'donor' device, you can simply forget about putting closed-source OS there.
what about mango, tango, apollo?
what about mango, tango, apollo?
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Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
Best Regards
adfree said:
Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
Best Regards
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I think the only possible OS besides Android is maybe HP's WebOS. Even if it's half losed source, it's built on top of linux just as Android and the root image is accessible (I already downloaded it ). But even this would be a risky project, as the kernel is not the same version (WebOS 2.2.1 is built on 2.6.29 if I remember well) and the video driver and phone part is totally different...
adfree said:
Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
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LOL!!! i didnt ask if its possible or not. but they said porting wp7 is not interesting .
maybe pumba possible? )
adfree said:
Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
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what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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And there we go... Now microsoft have to choose new names for windows 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 :-/ ;-p
duxxyuk said:
And there we go... Now microsoft have to choose new names for windows 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 :-/ ;-p
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Pumba would be great
LOL... DUMBa is a great name for the next microsoft release
i can´t see any advantage is porting wp7 to wave
in fact the only advantages i see in porting android is because of the zillion apps available and the fact its an open OS
if i could have all those apps (or even half..) for bada, i would keep bada
i tried some android phones and some wm7 phones and i feel them slower than my wave 8500
the only 1 that feels as speedy as the wave is the iphone 4
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what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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lol
yes i found some opensource apps, maybe some of them can be ported easy, the games should be easier cause they all using opengl, thank god that the opensource community exists.
my brother has a wp7 phone and i love it. i search through the market and it has lot of interesting games and apps(wp7 was released after bada). imo its much better than bada.
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my brother has a wp7 phone and i love it. i search through the market and it has lot of interesting games and apps(wp7 was released after bada). imo its much better than bada.
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So sell bada phone and buy something with WP. Nobody keep you here
I want to ask developers, if there's any chance to port meego 1.2 hummingbird that is now installed on new nokia n9, it's really great and with "ALIEN DALVIK" it can run native android applications !!!!!!!!!!!!
Why ? To run apps which use hummingbird cpu ?
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nope, hummingbird is the codename ... the nokia n9 has just an arm v7 cpu (cortex a8) and has this version of meego 1.2 and it runs great!
apart from this
with the application "alien dalvik" meego os is capable of running android apps
with full support!!!
Would wanna see it! It's gonna be so awesome! I know our dev teams can do it!
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you should just search for nokia n9 on youtube .. it's awesome and the awesome thing as i wrote b4 is that every arm v7 could have this os ... the problem is (as always) in the drivers ... anyway check the nokia n9 specs ... the gpu and processor have nothing special .. arm cortex a8 1ghz gpu powervr sgx530
It seems the meego to Desire has been bubbling around for sometime, not sure about the hummingbird version though. I think any new port to the desire keeps it fresh and interesting but devs are just getting on with the 2.3 recent release to get it running perfectly on desire. It would be interesting to see this on a desire. There are a couple of videos floating about claiming meego is running on the Desire but I'm not entirely convinced. This would be an interesting port.
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It's great ... we should ask developers!!!!
on this link there are some information for the porting only 1.1 version but ... better than nothing
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD
Fram87 said:
I want to ask developers, if there's any chance to port meego 1.2 hummingbird that is now installed on new nokia n9, it's really great and with "ALIEN DALVIK" it can run native android applications !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Moving to General
Greetings to all! The other day there was news! In the network be leaked the new OFFICIAL ROM for the HTC Desire S based on Android 2.3.5 with HTC Sense 3.0. Accordingly, HTC Sense 3.0 does not need to optimize and change resolution... Are there any advantages in this for our wonderful HTC HD2?
Link to threat Desire S is HERE
I needed only RUU, no rom. Have you had it ? Thank you
dungphp said:
I needed only RUU, no rom. Have you had it ? Thank you
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no we have only rom
but realy you cant use this?
LENINred said:
no we have only rom
but realy you cant use this?
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We can use it but better if we have RUU file, because it's stock file so Sir dungphp can port directly from it, don't need permission from anyone.
so mabe start do this guys))
Link
Sure you guys are quicker than me in finding stuff, but, here you go anyway:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
my bad, not the same rom, sorry, lol.
this looks very impressive I found some packages by myself and I am downloading now. will see what can we do with it
Daekin said:
this looks very impressive I found some packages by myself and I am downloading now. will see what can we do with it
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Good deal, look forward to seeing what comes of it.
Sorry, I may be missing something but apart from a 5mp camera, 400MB less ROM and a smaller screen, isn't the Desire S very similar in hardware to the DHD?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3468
Tigermoto said:
Sorry, I may be missing something but apart from a 5mp camera, 400MB less ROM and a smaller screen, isn't the Desire S very similar in hardware to the DHD?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3468
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yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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So, pardon my ignorance but how will this help us?
I don't mean to annoy anyone but if i don't ask i can't learn.
Tigermoto said:
So, pardon my ignorance but how will this help us?
I don't mean to annoy anyone but if i don't ask i can't learn.
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there are many ROMs from other devices ported successfully (including Desire S, Desire HD, Sensation,...)
this one is interesting because it is sense 3 like sensation, BUT it is properly sized for WVGA resolution!
then it is important that it is newest android 2.3.5 build.
some things like camera and glithes will probably not be fixed with porting this, but we will have pretty decent ROM with all newest features.
Daekin said:
there are many ROMs from other devices ported successfully (including Desire S, Desire HD, Sensation,...)
this one is interesting because it is sense 3 like sensation, BUT it is properly sized for WVGA resolution!
then it is important that it is newest android 2.3.5 build.
some things like camera and glithes will probably not be fixed with porting this, but we will have pretty decent ROM with all newest features.
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Appreciate the information, thanks button pressed.
No further questions your honour.
Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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I though it was snapdragon, not scorpion.
Clom801 said:
I though it was snapdragon, not scorpion.
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lol
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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hmm... its snapdragon -)))
The Snapdragon application processor core, dubbed Scorpion, is Qualcomm's own design
Is it possible to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 this rom to HD2?
Or can some1 please point me in the right direction. I want a Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 rom (Dutch or multilanguage) for the HTC HD2.
Thanks in advance.
SlayrNeo said:
Is it possible to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 this rom to HD2?
Or can some1 please point me in the right direction. I want a Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 rom (Dutch or multilanguage) for the HTC HD2.
Thanks in advance.
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Nope you cannot flash a Desire S ROM to your HD2, that would never work. The ROM would need to be ported for our device first. I would imagine that someone is working on porting this for us...but we will need to wait and see...or start porting it ourselves.
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The Snapdragon application processor core, dubbed Scorpion, is Qualcomm's own design
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Don't be confused by Wiki.
Snapdragon CPU includes two processors, one is application processor and another is modem processor.
When we talk about the whole CPU, I think the name Snapdragon is more proper than Scorpion.
Source: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/Qualcomm/MsmChipsets
Most HTC devices have at their core Qualcomm System-on-Chip (SoC) Mobile Station Modem (MSM) integrated circuits. These are based on Advanced RISC Machines Ltd. (ARM) micro-processor and supporting systems designs. In most Smart Phone devices the SoC consists of two ARM micro-processors, one to manage the communications hardware (radio transmitters) and the other to manage the user applications and interface. These are generally known as the modem (or radio or baseband) processor and the applications (or apps) processor. These processors may not be identical since their functions are different.
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Source: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/Qualcomm/ProcComm
Processor Communications (an implementation of Inter Processor Communications - IPC) on Qualcomm System-on-Chip devices that have a privileged modem (a.k.a. baseband or radio) processor and less privileged applications processor is via shared memory and interrupts.
Devices based on the Qualcomm MSM and QSD SoC designs also use the Qualcomm-provided modem operating system REX and the Advanced Mobile Subscriber Service (AMSS) application running on the privileged processor - usually an ARM9 design.
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