Greetings to all! The other day there was news! In the network be leaked the new OFFICIAL ROM for the HTC Desire S based on Android 2.3.5 with HTC Sense 3.0. Accordingly, HTC Sense 3.0 does not need to optimize and change resolution... Are there any advantages in this for our wonderful HTC HD2?
Link to threat Desire S is HERE
I needed only RUU, no rom. Have you had it ? Thank you
dungphp said:
I needed only RUU, no rom. Have you had it ? Thank you
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no we have only rom
but realy you cant use this?
LENINred said:
no we have only rom
but realy you cant use this?
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We can use it but better if we have RUU file, because it's stock file so Sir dungphp can port directly from it, don't need permission from anyone.
so mabe start do this guys))
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Sure you guys are quicker than me in finding stuff, but, here you go anyway:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
my bad, not the same rom, sorry, lol.
this looks very impressive I found some packages by myself and I am downloading now. will see what can we do with it
Daekin said:
this looks very impressive I found some packages by myself and I am downloading now. will see what can we do with it
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Good deal, look forward to seeing what comes of it.
Sorry, I may be missing something but apart from a 5mp camera, 400MB less ROM and a smaller screen, isn't the Desire S very similar in hardware to the DHD?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3468
Tigermoto said:
Sorry, I may be missing something but apart from a 5mp camera, 400MB less ROM and a smaller screen, isn't the Desire S very similar in hardware to the DHD?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3468
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yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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So, pardon my ignorance but how will this help us?
I don't mean to annoy anyone but if i don't ask i can't learn.
Tigermoto said:
So, pardon my ignorance but how will this help us?
I don't mean to annoy anyone but if i don't ask i can't learn.
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there are many ROMs from other devices ported successfully (including Desire S, Desire HD, Sensation,...)
this one is interesting because it is sense 3 like sensation, BUT it is properly sized for WVGA resolution!
then it is important that it is newest android 2.3.5 build.
some things like camera and glithes will probably not be fixed with porting this, but we will have pretty decent ROM with all newest features.
Daekin said:
there are many ROMs from other devices ported successfully (including Desire S, Desire HD, Sensation,...)
this one is interesting because it is sense 3 like sensation, BUT it is properly sized for WVGA resolution!
then it is important that it is newest android 2.3.5 build.
some things like camera and glithes will probably not be fixed with porting this, but we will have pretty decent ROM with all newest features.
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Appreciate the information, thanks button pressed.
No further questions your honour.
Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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I though it was snapdragon, not scorpion.
Clom801 said:
I though it was snapdragon, not scorpion.
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lol
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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hmm... its snapdragon -)))
The Snapdragon application processor core, dubbed Scorpion, is Qualcomm's own design
Is it possible to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 this rom to HD2?
Or can some1 please point me in the right direction. I want a Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 rom (Dutch or multilanguage) for the HTC HD2.
Thanks in advance.
SlayrNeo said:
Is it possible to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 this rom to HD2?
Or can some1 please point me in the right direction. I want a Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 rom (Dutch or multilanguage) for the HTC HD2.
Thanks in advance.
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Nope you cannot flash a Desire S ROM to your HD2, that would never work. The ROM would need to be ported for our device first. I would imagine that someone is working on porting this for us...but we will need to wait and see...or start porting it ourselves.
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The Snapdragon application processor core, dubbed Scorpion, is Qualcomm's own design
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Don't be confused by Wiki.
Snapdragon CPU includes two processors, one is application processor and another is modem processor.
When we talk about the whole CPU, I think the name Snapdragon is more proper than Scorpion.
Source: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/Qualcomm/MsmChipsets
Most HTC devices have at their core Qualcomm System-on-Chip (SoC) Mobile Station Modem (MSM) integrated circuits. These are based on Advanced RISC Machines Ltd. (ARM) micro-processor and supporting systems designs. In most Smart Phone devices the SoC consists of two ARM micro-processors, one to manage the communications hardware (radio transmitters) and the other to manage the user applications and interface. These are generally known as the modem (or radio or baseband) processor and the applications (or apps) processor. These processors may not be identical since their functions are different.
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Source: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/Qualcomm/ProcComm
Processor Communications (an implementation of Inter Processor Communications - IPC) on Qualcomm System-on-Chip devices that have a privileged modem (a.k.a. baseband or radio) processor and less privileged applications processor is via shared memory and interrupts.
Devices based on the Qualcomm MSM and QSD SoC designs also use the Qualcomm-provided modem operating system REX and the Advanced Mobile Subscriber Service (AMSS) application running on the privileged processor - usually an ARM9 design.
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i watched lots of videos about x10 and i want somethin like xperia x10 interface on my hero! does anybody know something about X10's ROM on hero? or some applications (like diler)?
i'd guess you have to wait at least until the x10 is on the market...
the hero will definitelly not have the processing power for the X10 ui, the X10 is running a snapdragon cpu
i think it will work they can develop maybe a lite version of this interface D
gyounut said:
i think it will work they can develop maybe a lite version of this interface D
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i wouldn't hold my breath.
I just want the music player and maybe the dialer app and that is it. Could those work on the Hero or any device without Snapdragon?
i doubt it...were most likely gonna need that cpu to power that ui
Again what about for the music player?
tbaker077 said:
Again what about for the music player?
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Someone would need to get the source for the proprietary Sony/Ericsson application(s) (good luck with that!) and spend the time adapting it to the Hero hardware (incl. screen res, 480 x 854 Vs 320x480, and Qualcomm 528Mhz Vs Snapdragon 1Ghz). Don't hold your breath. Try Meridian or something. Or buy an X10 when it turns up.
I thought this was going to be a bit easier than what you mentioned, but thanks.
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the hero will definitelly not have the processing power for the X10 ui, the X10 is running a snapdragon cpu
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i doubt it...were most likely gonna need that cpu to power that ui
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Thats wot all the noobs said when people wanted sence 2.5 on the older devices lol now its as stable as on the HD 2, the biggest problem i can see is that the x10 has a slightly diff resolution ......
X10 Launch
The X10 looks set to launch at the end of Q1 (March) 2010 on Orange UK!
By then Android roms should be fairly universal and "portable", as far as i know there is no excessive memory or hardware spec demand from the X10 version of android but the 1Ghz Snapdragon processor will give it a hell of a boost.... Only time will tell!!
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Thats wot all the noobs said when people wanted sence 2.5 on the older devices lol now its as stable as on the HD 2, the biggest problem i can see is that the x10 has a slightly diff resolution ......
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the difference this time is that the X10 uses the 1GHz snapdragon whereas both the hero and the g1 use the MSM720X ARM6 cpu so the X10 has around 3x more cpu power.
Well isn't the HD2 the only device so far with Sense 2.5, and doesn't that also have a 1ghz snapdragon cpu? Unless HTC has the intention for Sense to run their non 1ghz device, I don't see how this is too much different?
Hmm, surely the x3 more cpu power isn't going to be used soley to run a few more UI bells and whistles?
Give it time for the X10 ROM to come out and I'm sure someone will be able to cook something special up for us
Until then we can only speculate on will it / won't it work.
tbaker077 said:
Well isn't the HD2 the only device so far with Sense 2.5, and doesn't that also have a 1ghz snapdragon cpu? Unless HTC has the intention for Sense to run their non 1ghz device, I don't see how this is too much different?
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the sense 2.5 on the HD2 is winmo and is already running on non-1GHz phones as its designed to be universal, the X10 interface is designed specifically for the X10 and if noone has seen the videos of the X10, its rather sluggish already with the 1GHz cpu
Valid point, but you also have to remember that the X10 in those videos are still at a beta stage and they are still trying to improve it more, at least that what I keep reading.
Google has an something called an open handset alliance that all the companies making google phones(ie htc samsung sony...) had to sign stating that the software versions are open and portlable to developers. I mean my rom on my touch pro 2 is an hd2 rom thats a snapdragon phone and my tp2 isn't. We'll see the sony interface eventually on other phones the question is will we ever see a smooth one without a snapdragon to back it.
Here the news from MWC:HTC will sell it's new Desire series which named "DesirE S" running ADROID 2.4,so is it possible to port 2.4 to old DESIRE???
Depends on the Hardware and if the Drivers can be patched to work with the Desire.
same snap dragon processor, slighty more RAM, i dont think its much different compared to the htc desire HD
dont rush it guys lol
the new launcher and apps looks greeat
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same snap dragon processor, slighty more RAM, i dont think its much different compared to the htc desire HD
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Its not the same. Desire S has the same with Desire HD
HTC Desire
1 GHz Snapdragon QSD8250 CPU
512 MB ROM
576 MB RAM
5MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire HD
1 GHz Snapdragon MSM8255 CPU
768 MB ROM
1,5 GB RAM
8MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire S
1GHz Snapdragon MSM825 CPU
768MB ROM
1.1GB RAM
5MP camera
VGA front-facing camera
So, when it is possible to build ROMs based on the HD then it also must be possible to build ROMs based on the S. But the problem is maybe that here someone has to convert the new android AND new sense version to the Bravo.
Yep,these detail parameters result that we,desire users can ported from new DesirE S ANDROID V2.4,It's only time business I think......
JeffreyLI
Elim said:
HTC Desire
1 GHz Snapdragon QSD8250 CPU
512 MB ROM
576 MB RAM
5MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire HD
1 GHz Snapdragon MSM8255 CPU
768 MB ROM
1,5 GB RAM
8MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire S
1GHz Snapdragon MSM825 CPU
768MB ROM
1.1GB RAM
5MP camera
VGA front-facing camera
So, when it is possible to build ROMs based on the HD then it also must be possible to build ROMs based on the S. But the problem is maybe that here someone has to convert the new android AND new sense version to the Bravo.
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JeffreyLI & XyLIna
From my HTC DesirE™
I have interesting information...Android 2.4 for HTC Desire, DHD, Desire Z and Incredible S in summer... allegedly official information.
From this point of view,has google released a new OEM adroid numbered 2.4?or 2.4 android is only referenced HTC sense upgration by HTC?
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I have interesting information...Android 2.4 for HTC Desire, DHD, Desire Z and Incredible S in summer... allegedly official information.
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JeffreyLI & XyLIna
From my HTC DesirE™
official from HTC... so with Sense. information comes from a journalist at MWC...
NeoPlex said:
I have interesting information...Android 2.4 for HTC Desire, DHD, Desire Z and Incredible S in summer... allegedly official information.
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Not very interesting when already known in other threads on here
jeffreyljb said:
From this point of view, has google released a new OEM adroid numbered 2.4?
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Not now, but it will be come in March or April.
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Not now, but it will be come in March or April.
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S'already released to HTC though, otherwise they wouldn't be able to back Sense on it, and as they showed at Barcelona their device was already running 2.4
I am from India,I am about to purchase Wildfire but just saw a new mobile from Htc called Wildfire S launched along with Desire S.So I just wanted to confirm is their any difference in 2 phones?
Currently I'm with HTC Gene since last 3 years and now really want to upgrade. Will Wildfire be a good option? I read that both having same resolution but will it affect? also is there any phone from HTC in same budget having "front camera"?
I shall be highly obliged if I get any response from you guys!
Regards,
Adi
adwaitk007 the main differences between "our" wildfire and the S are the higher screen resolution and the slightly faster processor. Both of these are very good reasons to buy the S since the "old" wildfire does have a problem there.
However.... For its price there are really good phones out there offering way more than the wildfire S. I dont know which phones are available in india or if you're restricted by a certain carrier but it would be best to make a list of phones around the pricerange of the wildfire and compare their specs against each other. Once you get down to a couple of devices search these forums for problems and or advantages of each device... If you still end up wanting a wildfire... Go for the S
wildfire S just like Aria in wildfire case. Of course, with new sense.
You may want to survey about rooting phone with new hboot if u plan to root it later.
Wildfire versus Wildfire S
Hi. I have been wondering what the main difference is between the Wildfire and Wildfire S too. I have a Wildfire and am based in the UK, not sure whether to upgrade to the new phone.
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Hi. I have been wondering what the main difference is between the Wildfire and Wildfire S too. I have a Wildfire and am based in the UK, not sure whether to upgrade to the new phone.
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Hi! nice to here from you. I am also planning to buy Wildfire. i just wanted to know if it's a cool phone or not? the reviews at HTC portal pleased me but still wanted to confirm if it works as they mentioned or not! Also wanted to know about the apps,themes,games,such things. whether they are available in good verity? Because I heard that the phone has low resolution so the apps will be less in numbers!
Your reply will surly help me! And yes still wondering about the difference between "S"
Friends i am also a user of wildfire but i would strictly advice you to go for Samsung galaxy ace which is available at the same cost and is really worth every penny u spend and can also be rooted has froyo out of box and is expected to get gingerbread love. has 800Mhz CPU with a adreno gpu so graphics is no problem. and even the screen resolution is HVGA definitely better than wildfire. I wish i had waited for one more month then i could have got this better phone..the only advantage wildfire enjoys is sense interface and nothing else. Had purchased this wildfire in january so cant update right now...but if had the opputunity i would have definately gone for Ace. Both phones are currently available in India within price range of Rs. 13500-15000 Hit thanks if you like my advice
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Hi! nice to here from you. I am also planning to buy Wildfire. i just wanted to know if it's a cool phone or not? the reviews at HTC portal pleased me but still wanted to confirm if it works as they mentioned or not! Also wanted to know about the apps,themes,games,such things. whether they are available in good verity? Because I heard that the phone has low resolution so the apps will be less in numbers!
Your reply will surly help me! And yes still wondering about the difference between "S"
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Wait for the S. App / Game compatibility of the Wildfire is very less because of the QVGA Screen, so, half the apps doesn't show up at all. Also, there is no GPU in it, so, any intensive game won't work at all, or, will play like a slideshow.
Since the Wildfire S is close to release, and, fixes both the above deficiencies (It has a HVGA 480x320 Screen, a faster and newer MSM 7227 600 MHz CPU, and an Adreno 200 GPU (Which, incidentally, is the same as the one in the Desire)), it should certainly be worth waiting for it.
Sum up of differences between Wildfire and S for those that are still confused:
* Wildfire S is slightly smaller than the Wildfire, because, it does not have the optical trackpad.
* The resolution of the S if greater than the Wildfire. (480x320 vs 320x240)
* The CPU of the S is newer and faster (Qualcomm MSM 7227 at 600 MHz vs MSM 7225 at 528 MHz)
* The S has a GPU Chipset. (Qualcomm Adreno 200, Wildfire doesnt have one)
adwaitk007 said:
I am from India,I am about to purchase Wildfire but just saw a new mobile from Htc called Wildfire S launched along with Desire S.So I just wanted to confirm is their any difference in 2 phones?
Currently I'm with HTC Gene since last 3 years and now really want to upgrade. Will Wildfire be a good option? I read that both having same resolution but will it affect? also is there any phone from HTC in same budget having "front camera"?
I shall be highly obliged if I get any response from you guys!
Regards,
Adi
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hey newbie. do u know the process of rooting android phone. ROOTING and then INSTALLING CUSTOM RECOVERY makes users to boost their android phone performance with custom roms. i doubt u havent understood what i said.
first learn something about rooting and custom roms. or else u will regret for what u have done. wildfire and wildfire s and all the newer htc devices are having greater security on the bootloader which makes them almost impossible to root. what u r planning to purchase device comes under POOR ROOT category.
check this out. it helps u a lot.
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/root_friendly
3xeno said:
Wait for the S. App / Game compatibility of the Wildfire is very less because of the QVGA Screen, so, half the apps doesn't show up at all. Also, there is no GPU in it, so, any intensive game won't work at all, or, will play like a slideshow.
Since the Wildfire S is close to release, and, fixes both the above deficiencies (It has a HVGA 480x320 Screen, a faster and newer MSM 7227 600 MHz CPU, and an Adreno 200 GPU (Which, incidentally, is the same as the one in the Desire)), it should certainly be worth waiting for it.
Sum up of differences between Wildfire and S for those that are still confused:
* Wildfire S is slightly smaller than the Wildfire, because, it does not have the optical trackpad.
* The resolution of the S if greater than the Wildfire. (480x320 vs 320x240)
* The CPU of the S is newer and faster (Qualcomm MSM 7227 at 600 MHz vs MSM 7225 at 528 MHz)
* The S has a GPU Chipset. (Qualcomm Adreno 200, Wildfire doesnt have one)
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check out this gsmarena link of the original wildfire.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_wildfire-3337.php
it says that the original wildfire has adreno 200 GPU. it also says that the original wildfire has gorilla glass display.
i was checking the gsmarena website from past 2 years. regarding wildfire i was checking the specifications regularly. i can say confidentially that those 2 features adreno gpu and gorilla glass display were added later to the specifications in that website. can u explain the reason
and if u see this link below, u will be really shocked to see HTC GOOGLE NEXUS ONE getting a multi touch input method via firmware upgrade.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_google_nexus_one-3069.php
can someone explain those things
bharatgaddameedi said:
check out this gsmarena link of the original wildfire.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_wildfire-3337.php
it says that the original wildfire has adreno 200 GPU. it also says that the original wildfire has gorilla glass display.
i was checking the gsmarena website from past 2 years. regarding wildfire i was checking the specifications regularly. i can say confidentially that those 2 features adreno gpu and gorilla glass display were added later to the specifications in that website. can u explain the reason
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It's wrong. That is the spec of the Wildfire S. If you check the Wildfire S at GSMArena, there is no mention of a GPU there. So, I believe they have mixed it up. Also, if HTC had added these 2 MAJOR features to the Wildfire at the end of its life, surely there would have been SOME official announcement from them.
If the Wildfire had an Adreno 200, it would be compatible with all 3D Games, and, even Non 3D Games like Angry Birds would run flawlessly on the Stock ROM, which obviously doesn't happen. Even Quadrant, a CPU and GPU Benchmark, fails on the Wildfire, which wouldn't happen if the Wildfire had a GPU.
Oh, and even the Xperia X10 received Multi Touch via a Firmware Update. The digitizer had the capabilities, but, somehow, these companies chose not to implement them. (In case of the X10, it was because of lack of support on Donut)
I want to ask developers, if there's any chance to port meego 1.2 hummingbird that is now installed on new nokia n9, it's really great and with "ALIEN DALVIK" it can run native android applications !!!!!!!!!!!!
Why ? To run apps which use hummingbird cpu ?
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nope, hummingbird is the codename ... the nokia n9 has just an arm v7 cpu (cortex a8) and has this version of meego 1.2 and it runs great!
apart from this
with the application "alien dalvik" meego os is capable of running android apps
with full support!!!
Would wanna see it! It's gonna be so awesome! I know our dev teams can do it!
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you should just search for nokia n9 on youtube .. it's awesome and the awesome thing as i wrote b4 is that every arm v7 could have this os ... the problem is (as always) in the drivers ... anyway check the nokia n9 specs ... the gpu and processor have nothing special .. arm cortex a8 1ghz gpu powervr sgx530
It seems the meego to Desire has been bubbling around for sometime, not sure about the hummingbird version though. I think any new port to the desire keeps it fresh and interesting but devs are just getting on with the 2.3 recent release to get it running perfectly on desire. It would be interesting to see this on a desire. There are a couple of videos floating about claiming meego is running on the Desire but I'm not entirely convinced. This would be an interesting port.
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It's great ... we should ask developers!!!!
on this link there are some information for the porting only 1.1 version but ... better than nothing
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD
Fram87 said:
I want to ask developers, if there's any chance to port meego 1.2 hummingbird that is now installed on new nokia n9, it's really great and with "ALIEN DALVIK" it can run native android applications !!!!!!!!!!!!
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hi everyone , today HTC announced the htc RADAR , now i eas looking at its specs sheet :
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_radar-4131.php
seems like it has the same chipset as our arc , it has the : 1 GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon chipset.
so does that mean that we can port the OS from the HTC RADAR to the S.E ARC without problems ?
excuse me , but im uneducated in these technical stuff so if anyone who is working and works in the department of ROMS and portings here would please answer me i would be thankful
thank you in advance .
WP is not open source so, there is no source for port, so no way to port to another device
Android can be ported to another non android devices 'cuz there is a source code for working with
then how was it possible to port wp7.5 to the HTC HD2 ?
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then how was it possible to port wp7.5 to the HTC HD2 ?
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The HD2 was a windows mobile device already same partiton structure, bootloader, spl blah blah blah
so its impossible :S
wait does that mean that the htc radar could get android ?
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so its impossible :S
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Yes Unless you fancy taking on the task of reverse engineering WP7 and yes android can be ported to any platform