I want to ask developers, if there's any chance to port meego 1.2 hummingbird that is now installed on new nokia n9, it's really great and with "ALIEN DALVIK" it can run native android applications !!!!!!!!!!!!
Why ? To run apps which use hummingbird cpu ?
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nope, hummingbird is the codename ... the nokia n9 has just an arm v7 cpu (cortex a8) and has this version of meego 1.2 and it runs great!
apart from this
with the application "alien dalvik" meego os is capable of running android apps
with full support!!!
Would wanna see it! It's gonna be so awesome! I know our dev teams can do it!
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you should just search for nokia n9 on youtube .. it's awesome and the awesome thing as i wrote b4 is that every arm v7 could have this os ... the problem is (as always) in the drivers ... anyway check the nokia n9 specs ... the gpu and processor have nothing special .. arm cortex a8 1ghz gpu powervr sgx530
It seems the meego to Desire has been bubbling around for sometime, not sure about the hummingbird version though. I think any new port to the desire keeps it fresh and interesting but devs are just getting on with the 2.3 recent release to get it running perfectly on desire. It would be interesting to see this on a desire. There are a couple of videos floating about claiming meego is running on the Desire but I'm not entirely convinced. This would be an interesting port.
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It's great ... we should ask developers!!!!
on this link there are some information for the porting only 1.1 version but ... better than nothing
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD
Fram87 said:
I want to ask developers, if there's any chance to port meego 1.2 hummingbird that is now installed on new nokia n9, it's really great and with "ALIEN DALVIK" it can run native android applications !!!!!!!!!!!!
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i watched lots of videos about x10 and i want somethin like xperia x10 interface on my hero! does anybody know something about X10's ROM on hero? or some applications (like diler)?
i'd guess you have to wait at least until the x10 is on the market...
the hero will definitelly not have the processing power for the X10 ui, the X10 is running a snapdragon cpu
i think it will work they can develop maybe a lite version of this interface D
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i think it will work they can develop maybe a lite version of this interface D
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i wouldn't hold my breath.
I just want the music player and maybe the dialer app and that is it. Could those work on the Hero or any device without Snapdragon?
i doubt it...were most likely gonna need that cpu to power that ui
Again what about for the music player?
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Again what about for the music player?
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Someone would need to get the source for the proprietary Sony/Ericsson application(s) (good luck with that!) and spend the time adapting it to the Hero hardware (incl. screen res, 480 x 854 Vs 320x480, and Qualcomm 528Mhz Vs Snapdragon 1Ghz). Don't hold your breath. Try Meridian or something. Or buy an X10 when it turns up.
I thought this was going to be a bit easier than what you mentioned, but thanks.
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the hero will definitelly not have the processing power for the X10 ui, the X10 is running a snapdragon cpu
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i doubt it...were most likely gonna need that cpu to power that ui
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Thats wot all the noobs said when people wanted sence 2.5 on the older devices lol now its as stable as on the HD 2, the biggest problem i can see is that the x10 has a slightly diff resolution ......
X10 Launch
The X10 looks set to launch at the end of Q1 (March) 2010 on Orange UK!
By then Android roms should be fairly universal and "portable", as far as i know there is no excessive memory or hardware spec demand from the X10 version of android but the 1Ghz Snapdragon processor will give it a hell of a boost.... Only time will tell!!
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Thats wot all the noobs said when people wanted sence 2.5 on the older devices lol now its as stable as on the HD 2, the biggest problem i can see is that the x10 has a slightly diff resolution ......
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the difference this time is that the X10 uses the 1GHz snapdragon whereas both the hero and the g1 use the MSM720X ARM6 cpu so the X10 has around 3x more cpu power.
Well isn't the HD2 the only device so far with Sense 2.5, and doesn't that also have a 1ghz snapdragon cpu? Unless HTC has the intention for Sense to run their non 1ghz device, I don't see how this is too much different?
Hmm, surely the x3 more cpu power isn't going to be used soley to run a few more UI bells and whistles?
Give it time for the X10 ROM to come out and I'm sure someone will be able to cook something special up for us
Until then we can only speculate on will it / won't it work.
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Well isn't the HD2 the only device so far with Sense 2.5, and doesn't that also have a 1ghz snapdragon cpu? Unless HTC has the intention for Sense to run their non 1ghz device, I don't see how this is too much different?
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the sense 2.5 on the HD2 is winmo and is already running on non-1GHz phones as its designed to be universal, the X10 interface is designed specifically for the X10 and if noone has seen the videos of the X10, its rather sluggish already with the 1GHz cpu
Valid point, but you also have to remember that the X10 in those videos are still at a beta stage and they are still trying to improve it more, at least that what I keep reading.
Google has an something called an open handset alliance that all the companies making google phones(ie htc samsung sony...) had to sign stating that the software versions are open and portlable to developers. I mean my rom on my touch pro 2 is an hd2 rom thats a snapdragon phone and my tp2 isn't. We'll see the sony interface eventually on other phones the question is will we ever see a smooth one without a snapdragon to back it.
why we want to port WP7 on wave?
1. at this moment all wp7 phones use same CPU (QSD 8250) and it's GPU was "Adreno 200" --- (SGX543MP2(iPad2) > SGX 543 = Adreno 220 > SGX540 (@300MHz) > Geforce ULP [Tegra2] > SGX 540 (@200MHz) = Mali -400 >> Adreno 205 > SGX 535 >> Adreno 200 = SGX 530.)
2. Our wave have the SGX540 GPU,if wp7 port on wave i think it'll more fast than Adreno 200
3. i hear some news ,microsoft will Release a tool it can port almost all android APP to WP7 so in the Future WP7 will be the NO1
4. wp7 more fast than android
I known it's very hard to do ,it just my opinion if it's wrong please forgive me
sorry for my bad english
3 or 4 users work on Android port, without full function... so NOT successfully finished. Since months.
If you have free time, please start with your project to port WP7...
We all count on you.
Good Luck
Its very hard to port the WP7 to wave because WP7 used only qualcomm processer so far but wave using hummingbird processer..porting android is somewhat easier than WP7 because galaxy s and wave almost share the same hardware..also i dont think you can achieve solid performance in wave with other os..
yes winphone 7 has 18 points at the html5 test, even bada 1.2 has 187 very inteligent. a system that can nothing even playing divx to port it on a device that has a system that can more. you should by a phone7 device, than we all are happy.
Of course, bada is a good system
I think that we don't obtain a significative advance in porting Windows Phone 7 to our waves, because Win7 doesn't have much more apps and it is not as extended as Android. You can try with MeeGo or Maemo but the result will be the same: not a really benefit.
The only OSs which are really interesting are iOS (extremely difficult to port) and Android (which oleg_k and the other devs are working at).
yes android is the best os to port, and maybe ios, would also be possible the wave and iphone are nearly the same in things of hardware.
Porting ANY closed-source operating system is next to impossible. The effort required for such a task is way out of scale and would require dozens of high class experts doing disassembly and binary patching, custom drivers, etc.
Phones hardware platforms are based on dedicated PCB layouts and even having same components in different phones gives no guarantee they are connected same way, to same processor PINs, not mentioning that same processor types come in different packaging. When the phone is not based on the very SAME board as 'donor' device, you can simply forget about putting closed-source OS there.
what about mango, tango, apollo?
what about mango, tango, apollo?
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Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
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adfree said:
Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
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I think the only possible OS besides Android is maybe HP's WebOS. Even if it's half losed source, it's built on top of linux just as Android and the root image is accessible (I already downloaded it ). But even this would be a risky project, as the kernel is not the same version (WebOS 2.2.1 is built on 2.6.29 if I remember well) and the video driver and phone part is totally different...
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Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
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LOL!!! i didnt ask if its possible or not. but they said porting wp7 is not interesting .
maybe pumba possible? )
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what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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And there we go... Now microsoft have to choose new names for windows 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 :-/ ;-p
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And there we go... Now microsoft have to choose new names for windows 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 :-/ ;-p
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Pumba would be great
LOL... DUMBa is a great name for the next microsoft release
i can´t see any advantage is porting wp7 to wave
in fact the only advantages i see in porting android is because of the zillion apps available and the fact its an open OS
if i could have all those apps (or even half..) for bada, i would keep bada
i tried some android phones and some wm7 phones and i feel them slower than my wave 8500
the only 1 that feels as speedy as the wave is the iphone 4
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what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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lol
yes i found some opensource apps, maybe some of them can be ported easy, the games should be easier cause they all using opengl, thank god that the opensource community exists.
my brother has a wp7 phone and i love it. i search through the market and it has lot of interesting games and apps(wp7 was released after bada). imo its much better than bada.
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my brother has a wp7 phone and i love it. i search through the market and it has lot of interesting games and apps(wp7 was released after bada). imo its much better than bada.
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So sell bada phone and buy something with WP. Nobody keep you here
Greetings to all! The other day there was news! In the network be leaked the new OFFICIAL ROM for the HTC Desire S based on Android 2.3.5 with HTC Sense 3.0. Accordingly, HTC Sense 3.0 does not need to optimize and change resolution... Are there any advantages in this for our wonderful HTC HD2?
Link to threat Desire S is HERE
I needed only RUU, no rom. Have you had it ? Thank you
dungphp said:
I needed only RUU, no rom. Have you had it ? Thank you
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no we have only rom
but realy you cant use this?
LENINred said:
no we have only rom
but realy you cant use this?
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We can use it but better if we have RUU file, because it's stock file so Sir dungphp can port directly from it, don't need permission from anyone.
so mabe start do this guys))
Link
Sure you guys are quicker than me in finding stuff, but, here you go anyway:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
my bad, not the same rom, sorry, lol.
this looks very impressive I found some packages by myself and I am downloading now. will see what can we do with it
Daekin said:
this looks very impressive I found some packages by myself and I am downloading now. will see what can we do with it
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Good deal, look forward to seeing what comes of it.
Sorry, I may be missing something but apart from a 5mp camera, 400MB less ROM and a smaller screen, isn't the Desire S very similar in hardware to the DHD?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3468
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Sorry, I may be missing something but apart from a 5mp camera, 400MB less ROM and a smaller screen, isn't the Desire S very similar in hardware to the DHD?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3468
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yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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So, pardon my ignorance but how will this help us?
I don't mean to annoy anyone but if i don't ask i can't learn.
Tigermoto said:
So, pardon my ignorance but how will this help us?
I don't mean to annoy anyone but if i don't ask i can't learn.
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there are many ROMs from other devices ported successfully (including Desire S, Desire HD, Sensation,...)
this one is interesting because it is sense 3 like sensation, BUT it is properly sized for WVGA resolution!
then it is important that it is newest android 2.3.5 build.
some things like camera and glithes will probably not be fixed with porting this, but we will have pretty decent ROM with all newest features.
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there are many ROMs from other devices ported successfully (including Desire S, Desire HD, Sensation,...)
this one is interesting because it is sense 3 like sensation, BUT it is properly sized for WVGA resolution!
then it is important that it is newest android 2.3.5 build.
some things like camera and glithes will probably not be fixed with porting this, but we will have pretty decent ROM with all newest features.
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Appreciate the information, thanks button pressed.
No further questions your honour.
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yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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I though it was snapdragon, not scorpion.
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I though it was snapdragon, not scorpion.
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lol
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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hmm... its snapdragon -)))
The Snapdragon application processor core, dubbed Scorpion, is Qualcomm's own design
Is it possible to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 this rom to HD2?
Or can some1 please point me in the right direction. I want a Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 rom (Dutch or multilanguage) for the HTC HD2.
Thanks in advance.
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Is it possible to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 this rom to HD2?
Or can some1 please point me in the right direction. I want a Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 rom (Dutch or multilanguage) for the HTC HD2.
Thanks in advance.
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Nope you cannot flash a Desire S ROM to your HD2, that would never work. The ROM would need to be ported for our device first. I would imagine that someone is working on porting this for us...but we will need to wait and see...or start porting it ourselves.
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The Snapdragon application processor core, dubbed Scorpion, is Qualcomm's own design
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Don't be confused by Wiki.
Snapdragon CPU includes two processors, one is application processor and another is modem processor.
When we talk about the whole CPU, I think the name Snapdragon is more proper than Scorpion.
Source: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/Qualcomm/MsmChipsets
Most HTC devices have at their core Qualcomm System-on-Chip (SoC) Mobile Station Modem (MSM) integrated circuits. These are based on Advanced RISC Machines Ltd. (ARM) micro-processor and supporting systems designs. In most Smart Phone devices the SoC consists of two ARM micro-processors, one to manage the communications hardware (radio transmitters) and the other to manage the user applications and interface. These are generally known as the modem (or radio or baseband) processor and the applications (or apps) processor. These processors may not be identical since their functions are different.
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Processor Communications (an implementation of Inter Processor Communications - IPC) on Qualcomm System-on-Chip devices that have a privileged modem (a.k.a. baseband or radio) processor and less privileged applications processor is via shared memory and interrupts.
Devices based on the Qualcomm MSM and QSD SoC designs also use the Qualcomm-provided modem operating system REX and the Advanced Mobile Subscriber Service (AMSS) application running on the privileged processor - usually an ARM9 design.
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hi everyone , today HTC announced the htc RADAR , now i eas looking at its specs sheet :
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_radar-4131.php
seems like it has the same chipset as our arc , it has the : 1 GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon chipset.
so does that mean that we can port the OS from the HTC RADAR to the S.E ARC without problems ?
excuse me , but im uneducated in these technical stuff so if anyone who is working and works in the department of ROMS and portings here would please answer me i would be thankful
thank you in advance .
WP is not open source so, there is no source for port, so no way to port to another device
Android can be ported to another non android devices 'cuz there is a source code for working with
then how was it possible to port wp7.5 to the HTC HD2 ?
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then how was it possible to port wp7.5 to the HTC HD2 ?
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The HD2 was a windows mobile device already same partiton structure, bootloader, spl blah blah blah
so its impossible :S
wait does that mean that the htc radar could get android ?
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so its impossible :S
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Yes Unless you fancy taking on the task of reverse engineering WP7 and yes android can be ported to any platform
Open source operating system Ubuntu finally made a Mobile OS
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
This being Open Source we might see ports for One V sooner or later right ? let the Mobile OS wars begin :silly:
That would be pretty cool actually The report said it would work on phones running android.... Hmmm maybe a developer can pick this up....
A developer can't pick this up at the moment. They probally won't release till 2014. So till than It's a no go as far as I understand cause most SDK ports work like crap in my experience.
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http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
System requirements for Entry level Ubuntu smartphones needs ARM Cortex A9 According to that website and One V has a Qualcomm Snapdragon S2 and not a Cortex A9 .....
doesn't meet requirements ?
it defiantly will take lot of time ;-/