Open source operating system Ubuntu finally made a Mobile OS
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
This being Open Source we might see ports for One V sooner or later right ? let the Mobile OS wars begin :silly:
That would be pretty cool actually The report said it would work on phones running android.... Hmmm maybe a developer can pick this up....
A developer can't pick this up at the moment. They probally won't release till 2014. So till than It's a no go as far as I understand cause most SDK ports work like crap in my experience.
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http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
System requirements for Entry level Ubuntu smartphones needs ARM Cortex A9 According to that website and One V has a Qualcomm Snapdragon S2 and not a Cortex A9 .....
doesn't meet requirements ?
it defiantly will take lot of time ;-/
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check this out it maybe of intrest to someone, especially the devs
http://bit.ly/c9SF72
Man thats fast 1ghz is not so long out and they start shipping 1,2ghz duels cores.
And wonder how hot it gets.
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Ch3wyzzz said:
Man thats fast 1ghz is not so long out and they start shipping 1,2ghz duels cores.
And wonder how hot it gets.
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check this out, asus made an android laptop running snapdragon, that dosent even need a fan
http://www.talkandroid.com/1170-android-asus-ee-pc-snapdragon-video/
AndroHero said:
check this out, asus made an android laptop running snapdragon, that dosent even need a fan
http://www.talkandroid.com/1170-android-asus-ee-pc-snapdragon-video/
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thats a nice little lappie.
i have a asus eepc hope that android becomes available when its out
all this tech keeps me wondering where we would be in 10 years
I think Qualcomm have finally realised that their pricing structure was not helping them out. By charging extra for decent drivers they were hurting their own image since it was causing fragmentation. The Hummingbird and A4 GPU kills the snapdragon as it is, although the CPU isnt any better really.
Hopefully this will see Android getting much better games and movie playback and encoding.
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I think Qualcomm have finally realised that their pricing structure was not helping them out. By charging extra for decent drivers they were hurting their own image since it was causing fragmentation. The Hummingbird and A4 GPU kills the snapdragon as it is, although the CPU isnt any better really.
Hopefully this will see Android getting much better games and movie playback and encoding.
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hopefully now we can get decent 720p playback
I don't know how this will affect our phones,but let me tell you this.My laptop has an ATI 4670HD GPU.I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on it (don't like windows) and then installed ATI's current drivers,version 9.8 I think.Compiz benchmark(it's a tool that monitors how many FPS your GPU gives at each time) gave me an average of 80FPS.Now,after some 9 months or so,I have Ubuntu 10.04 and ATI's 10.6 driver.The same test now gives an average of 240 FPS(and at this I might be a little conservative).
I know it's completely off-topic.I just posted to let you know what good drivers can do.
why we want to port WP7 on wave?
1. at this moment all wp7 phones use same CPU (QSD 8250) and it's GPU was "Adreno 200" --- (SGX543MP2(iPad2) > SGX 543 = Adreno 220 > SGX540 (@300MHz) > Geforce ULP [Tegra2] > SGX 540 (@200MHz) = Mali -400 >> Adreno 205 > SGX 535 >> Adreno 200 = SGX 530.)
2. Our wave have the SGX540 GPU,if wp7 port on wave i think it'll more fast than Adreno 200
3. i hear some news ,microsoft will Release a tool it can port almost all android APP to WP7 so in the Future WP7 will be the NO1
4. wp7 more fast than android
I known it's very hard to do ,it just my opinion if it's wrong please forgive me
sorry for my bad english
3 or 4 users work on Android port, without full function... so NOT successfully finished. Since months.
If you have free time, please start with your project to port WP7...
We all count on you.
Good Luck
Its very hard to port the WP7 to wave because WP7 used only qualcomm processer so far but wave using hummingbird processer..porting android is somewhat easier than WP7 because galaxy s and wave almost share the same hardware..also i dont think you can achieve solid performance in wave with other os..
yes winphone 7 has 18 points at the html5 test, even bada 1.2 has 187 very inteligent. a system that can nothing even playing divx to port it on a device that has a system that can more. you should by a phone7 device, than we all are happy.
Of course, bada is a good system
I think that we don't obtain a significative advance in porting Windows Phone 7 to our waves, because Win7 doesn't have much more apps and it is not as extended as Android. You can try with MeeGo or Maemo but the result will be the same: not a really benefit.
The only OSs which are really interesting are iOS (extremely difficult to port) and Android (which oleg_k and the other devs are working at).
yes android is the best os to port, and maybe ios, would also be possible the wave and iphone are nearly the same in things of hardware.
Porting ANY closed-source operating system is next to impossible. The effort required for such a task is way out of scale and would require dozens of high class experts doing disassembly and binary patching, custom drivers, etc.
Phones hardware platforms are based on dedicated PCB layouts and even having same components in different phones gives no guarantee they are connected same way, to same processor PINs, not mentioning that same processor types come in different packaging. When the phone is not based on the very SAME board as 'donor' device, you can simply forget about putting closed-source OS there.
what about mango, tango, apollo?
what about mango, tango, apollo?
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Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
Best Regards
adfree said:
Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
Best Regards
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I think the only possible OS besides Android is maybe HP's WebOS. Even if it's half losed source, it's built on top of linux just as Android and the root image is accessible (I already downloaded it ). But even this would be a risky project, as the kernel is not the same version (WebOS 2.2.1 is built on 2.6.29 if I remember well) and the video driver and phone part is totally different...
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Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
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LOL!!! i didnt ask if its possible or not. but they said porting wp7 is not interesting .
maybe pumba possible? )
adfree said:
Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
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what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
ispanecaaaa said:
what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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And there we go... Now microsoft have to choose new names for windows 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 :-/ ;-p
duxxyuk said:
And there we go... Now microsoft have to choose new names for windows 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 :-/ ;-p
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Pumba would be great
LOL... DUMBa is a great name for the next microsoft release
i can´t see any advantage is porting wp7 to wave
in fact the only advantages i see in porting android is because of the zillion apps available and the fact its an open OS
if i could have all those apps (or even half..) for bada, i would keep bada
i tried some android phones and some wm7 phones and i feel them slower than my wave 8500
the only 1 that feels as speedy as the wave is the iphone 4
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what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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lol
yes i found some opensource apps, maybe some of them can be ported easy, the games should be easier cause they all using opengl, thank god that the opensource community exists.
my brother has a wp7 phone and i love it. i search through the market and it has lot of interesting games and apps(wp7 was released after bada). imo its much better than bada.
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my brother has a wp7 phone and i love it. i search through the market and it has lot of interesting games and apps(wp7 was released after bada). imo its much better than bada.
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So sell bada phone and buy something with WP. Nobody keep you here
I want to ask developers, if there's any chance to port meego 1.2 hummingbird that is now installed on new nokia n9, it's really great and with "ALIEN DALVIK" it can run native android applications !!!!!!!!!!!!
Why ? To run apps which use hummingbird cpu ?
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nope, hummingbird is the codename ... the nokia n9 has just an arm v7 cpu (cortex a8) and has this version of meego 1.2 and it runs great!
apart from this
with the application "alien dalvik" meego os is capable of running android apps
with full support!!!
Would wanna see it! It's gonna be so awesome! I know our dev teams can do it!
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you should just search for nokia n9 on youtube .. it's awesome and the awesome thing as i wrote b4 is that every arm v7 could have this os ... the problem is (as always) in the drivers ... anyway check the nokia n9 specs ... the gpu and processor have nothing special .. arm cortex a8 1ghz gpu powervr sgx530
It seems the meego to Desire has been bubbling around for sometime, not sure about the hummingbird version though. I think any new port to the desire keeps it fresh and interesting but devs are just getting on with the 2.3 recent release to get it running perfectly on desire. It would be interesting to see this on a desire. There are a couple of videos floating about claiming meego is running on the Desire but I'm not entirely convinced. This would be an interesting port.
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It's great ... we should ask developers!!!!
on this link there are some information for the porting only 1.1 version but ... better than nothing
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD
Fram87 said:
I want to ask developers, if there's any chance to port meego 1.2 hummingbird that is now installed on new nokia n9, it's really great and with "ALIEN DALVIK" it can run native android applications !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Considering the CPU architecture (Tecra 3) would it be possible to get a port of Windows 8 running on it?
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Considering the CPU architecture (Tecra 3) would it be possible to get a port of Windows 8 running on it?
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I guess it would technically be possible to run Windows 8 (ARM) on it.
Assuming you mean Windows 8 OS and not Windows phone 8, It would be very unlikely as there are too many factors as to why this would not work. For starters the windows 8 kernel would need to be heavily modified in order to work on the HOX architecture, also which windows os relays on stock driver support in order for it to function so someone would also need to write drivers for the hardware support too.
It would be more likely possible to port Windows phone 8 since it is designed for phones in mind from the get go. Windows phone 8 is a heavily modified version of the windows 8 OS.
c_marius said:
Considering the CPU architecture (Tecra 3) would it be possible to get a port of Windows 8 running on it?
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Short answer No. Unlike Android Microsoft is not open source also you won't get source codes or Kernel sources etc. for the Devs to build one.
Well... although it's highly unlikely if Windows 8 is released and Tegra 3 is still the flagship CPU from NVIDIA the possibility of a port may increase slightly (Only if a Tegra 3 powered Win8 tablet is produced)
May be chances are higher side.
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Short answer No. Unlike Android Microsoft is not open source also you won't get source codes or Kernel sources etc. for the Devs to build one.
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And probably illegal?
Guys, both Windows Mobile 8 and Windows RT (8) will be available for ARM processors, it's more a case of porting drivers than modifying the kernel. Of course we would need to develop a new bootloader to feed Windows 8 (mobile or not) device information the way it wants it.
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Guys, both Windows Mobile 8 and Windows RT (8) will be available for ARM processors, it's more a case of porting drivers than modifying the kernel. Of course we would need to develop a new bootloader to feed Windows 8 (mobile or not) device information the way it wants it.
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Which would require s-off?
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Which would require s-off?
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S-OFF would no doubt help make the solution more elegant, but it is certainly not necessary.
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S-OFF would no doubt help make the solution more elegant, but it is certainly not necessary.
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That is good to hear well either way you would need to have a windows 8 serial and that means buying it, these forums don't support that sort of stuff.
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Hello All,
I don't know where this topic should go.
I want to know the difference between the processors AMRv6 and ARM11 and which is better .. I'm looking to buy a new mobile one with 830 MHz ARMv6 and the other 832 MHz ARM 11 .. which should I choose in respect to the processor?
Best Regards,
Sikas.
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Anyone?
5 digits
Ok, do a little googling, and if your still not sure feel free to ask again. Also there's a lot more to consider when getting a new phone
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5 digits
Ok, do a little googling, and if your still not sure feel free to ask again. Also there's a lot more to consider when getting a new phone
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I already googled, but didn't find anything to compare between both!!
ARM11 is an ARM architecture 32-bit RISC microprocessor family which introduced the ARMv6 architectural additions. These include SIMD media instructions, multiprocessor support and a new cache architecture. The implementation included significantly improved instruction processing pipeline, compared to previous ARM9 or ARM10 families, and is used in smartphones from Apple, Nokia, and others. The initial ARM11 core (ARM1136) was released to licensees in late 2002.
The ARM11 family are currently the only ARMv6-architecture cores. There are however ARMv6-M cores (Cortex-M0 and Cortex-M1), addressing microcontroller applications;[1] ARM11 cores target more demanding applications.