My mom has a HTC Desire and after using the phone for 7 months, she still doesn't know how to use her phone very well. Android is simply too advanced for her. So I come here asking, is there a ROM out there that is simple and easy to use? iPhone and iOS are very easy to use and everything is pretty straight forward. If there is no simple and easy to use ROM, what ROM do you guys suggest I install on her Desire? There are way too many ROMs for the HTC Desire compared to Samsung Captivate.
geokilla said:
My mom has a HTC Desire and after using the phone for 7 months, she still doesn't know how to use her phone very well. Android is simply too advanced for her. So I come here asking, is there a ROM out there that is simple and easy to use? iPhone and iOS are very easy to use and everything is pretty straight forward. If there is no simple and easy to use ROM, what ROM do you guys suggest I install on her Desire? There are way too many ROMs for the HTC Desire compared to Samsung Captivate.
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I personally don't see what's so complicated about Android, but on the off chance that Sense is confusing her, you might want to try an AOSP rom or CM. The Sense 2.1 / 3.0 ROMs add more features and so probably won't help your situation
There is nothing complicated about Android at all, especially when you have Sense. Sense makes it a lot easier anyway. Maybe try another Sense rom but that might not help. AOSP roms will be more complicated for your mum so try MIUI. MIUI looks like iOS so it might be a good way to go about it. But realistically, all smartphones are more or less the same as each other. There are just different layouts that's all.
I would think that you have tried to teach your mum before but that doesn't help. I would seem to think that she would get stuck in the notifications bar and the apps. If she understands them, then she understands Android.
Buy a Nokia lol
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But no realistically, you could try MIUI, it is a bit simpler to use.
Meaple said:
There is nothing complicated about Android at all, especially when you have Sense. Sense makes it a lot easier anyway. Maybe try another Sense rom but that might not help. AOSP roms will be more complicated for your mum so try MIUI. MIUI looks like iOS so it might be a good way to go about it. But realistically, all smartphones are more or less the same as each other. There are just different layouts that's all.
I would think that you have tried to teach your mum before but that doesn't help. I would seem to think that she would get stuck in the notifications bar and the apps. If she understands them, then she understands Android.
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I find Sense to be a lot more complicated than TouchWiz. It's a pain getting to the Phonebook, Messaging, etc. Maybe because I haven't used the phone that much, but as you said Android isn't really hard to use at all as they're all more or less the same.
I'm on the stock Telus ROM right now, so maybe Telus made things complicated and it's not Sense that's complicated to use. How is AOSP more complicated? I'll take a look at MIUI.
What Sense ROM would you recommend? There's so many to choose from.
I'm not sure how Telus set up their phones, but can't you just create the messages and contacts shortcut icons on the home screen?
Aosp isn't so much more complicated to use, it just has more options and flexibility. Its as easy to use as you want it to be, just don't access the extra settings. Just use what you want and leave everything else alone.
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It's always a question of what she is used to. If she had an iPhone before, of course android may be a bit confusing at first (maybe she should take a look at miui then).
But actually i also don't see what's complicated 'bout android.
I would propose to flash the latest stable CM release, since it is basic, stable and fast.
Then I would ask your mum, where the problems are exactly?
(f.e: She doesn't find her contacts? Put a widget on the homescreen!)
The good thing about android: you can customize it exactly the way you need it.
geokilla said:
I find Sense to be a lot more complicated than TouchWiz. It's a pain getting to the Phonebook, Messaging, etc. Maybe because I haven't used the phone that much, but as you said Android isn't really hard to use at all as they're all more or less the same.
I'm on the stock Telus ROM right now, so maybe Telus made things complicated and it's not Sense that's complicated to use. How is AOSP more complicated? I'll take a look at MIUI.
What Sense ROM would you recommend? There's so many to choose from.
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AOSP is fine to use, it's just like any other rom. It gets a little complicated when your trying to set a few things up. Like joining Facebook contacts to your contacts. That sort of thing. I've seen a lot of people ask around here in the past about these "complications".
I currently use AceSMod Lite. I did use the full stock version but it was slow due to my SD card being slow, I should say laggy a little. My advice is to just try them out and see which ones you like. Rom choosing is just trial and error.
Che123 said:
It's always a question of what she is used to. If she had an iPhone before, of course android may be a bit confusing at first (maybe she should take a look at miui then).
But actually i also don't see what's complicated 'bout android.
I would propose to flash the latest stable CM release, since it is basic, stable and fast.
Then I would ask your mum, where the problems are exactly?
(f.e: She doesn't find her contacts? Put a widget on the homescreen!)
The good thing about android: you can customize it exactly the way you need it.
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She used to have a LG Dare. Not iPhone.
She doesn't even use more than 10% of the phone features. Not once have I seen her use the Browser, GPS, etc. Only outbound and inbound calling, and sending text messages to us. That's it. Maybe she shouldn't have gotten a smartphone in the first place...
Long press on home screen then choose shortcuts>applications>contacts
Long press on home screen then choose shortcuts>applications>messages
Now you have quick one press access to her most used features
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Did you tell her what she can do on it? It might be worth talking to her and showing her how to use it.
Meaple said:
Did you tell her what she can do on it? It might be worth talking to her and showing her how to use it.
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Showed her numerous times. Advanced phones just aren't for her.
Everytime we go out for lunch on the weekends and she wants to check her e-mail, she asks me to do it for her. She can do it herself too but it takes her a long time sometimes. No she's not a senior.
Just today she called me while I was at work asking why there's a WiFi message on her phone lol.
I don't think you'll find a ROM to simplify things so maybe this isn't the phone for her, maybe consider buying another phone dude
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I was going to upgrade my mom's Desire yesterday to some sort of Gingerbread with Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM, but why is it so hard to upgrade compared to my Captivate? There's like 50 billion steps involved. My Captivate had only like 3 steps.
Btw are the Sense 3.0 ROMs stable?
How about Oxygen? Compared to others with a lot of menu for tweaks and whatnot. Oxygen is pretty basic.. and damn fast too.
Or try to get a phone not as complicated for your mom. It would be a waste to get a smartphone dumb down instead getting a not so smart phone being used easily and optimally.
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Hello XDA,
I'm swapping out my BlackBerry Storm2 today, for an HTC Incredible.
I have been lurking around on Droid forums for a few weeks now, especially here.
I want to put CM6 on my DInc, but I have a lot of people telling me it's really buggy.
Which is the best ROM out right now? The least buggiest, preferably.
Also, which Kernal works best with which ROM?
Sorry for the seemingly stupid questions.
Thanks in advance!
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One more thing I don't quite fully understand. Do some themes only work with some ROM's?
Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.
I use Virtuous 2.7 Power Saving as well and absolutely love it.
I added the SexyRosieBrowser Mod and Rotary Lockscreen Mod and deleted a lot of the bloatware and widgets I never used from HTC and Verizon.
I also added the EVO Camera
It's pretty much the best of BOTH worlds... a mix mash of Vanilla and Sense UI!!!
very stable and only a few minor bugs that aren't that big of deal.
khanam said:
Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.
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PhillyCheez said:
I use Virtuous 2.7 Power Saving as well and absolutely love it.
I added the SexyRosieBrowser Mod and Rotary Lockscreen Mod and deleted a lot of the bloatware and widgets I never used from HTC and Verizon.
I also added the EVO Camera
It's pretty much the best of BOTH worlds... a mix mash of Vanilla and Sense UI!!!
very stable and only a few minor bugs that aren't that big of deal.
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Thanks for the quick replies guys,
I will definitely be trying Virtous out before anything else.
Some people told me CM6 was great but it was made with a heavy code. So i'm guessing it's buggy and slow at times?
It's just weird coming from a BlackBerry device that all you can do is throw on some Hybrids and .cod files :/
@PhillyCheese What are the benefits of the EVO camera? What does the SexyRosie mod do?
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I will definitely be trying Virtous out before anything else.
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Definitely recommended. Virtuous is the most stable ROM I've used on my Inc so far. Cyanogen and Ruby both do this random reboot thing on my phone -- I haven't tried any other AOSP-based ROMs.
Some people told me CM6 was great but it was made with a heavy code. So i'm guessing it's buggy and slow at times?
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I don't think it's "heavy" per se, but it has far more mods to the AOSP base than Ruby does. That also doesn't mean it's more or less buggy than other ROMs either.
What are the benefits of the EVO camera? What does the SexyRosie mod do?
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The Evo camera app has an onscreen shutter button. At least, that's the only significant difference I can find.
ardax said:
Definitely recommended. Virtuous is the most stable ROM I've used on my Inc so far. Cyanogen and Ruby both do this random reboot thing on my phone -- I haven't tried any other AOSP-based ROMs.
I don't think it's "heavy" per se, but it has far more mods to the AOSP base than Ruby does. That also doesn't mean it's more or less buggy than other ROMs either.
The Evo camera app has an onscreen shutter button. At least, that's the only significant difference I can find.
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Awesome thanks for the tip man.
So when I get the Incredible today it probably won't be running Froyo right off the bat, correct? Should I update it right away?
Also, does using ROM Manager reduce the risk of bricking your phone? That's the only thing I'm scared of.
Based off of your recommendations I'm going to give Virtuous a try for the first time. Got it queued up in ROM Manager as we speak, let the fun begin!
Actually, it probably will be running Froyo already.
Personally, I'd spend the first few days running the phone as stock as possible to make sure there's no weird hardware problems. Once that's out of the way, root (Unrevoked 3) + NAND unlock (Unrevoked Forever) + stock backup.
After that, it's all up to you.
2 other tips that bit me in the ass at first:
1. HTC's People app (contacts) has a distinction between "Google Contacts" and "Phone Contacts". Only "Google" contacts are synchronized to the Google Account linked to your phone. It sounds obvious in retrospect, but the first time I entered all my contacts they went in as "Phone" contacts by default. That made for a nasty surprise the first time I wiped my phone.
2. There was some extreme weirdness with synchronization between People and my Google Contacts online. The only way I ended up with all my contacts showing up in People (and the Dialer) correctly was to make sure they were entered into the "My Contacts" group in Google Contacts. Those warts seem to have been ironed out with Froyo though. It's still probably significantly easier to enter your contacts online though than through your phone, particularly if you dump a CSV from your Blackberry first.
ardax said:
Actually, it probably will be running Froyo already.
Personally, I'd spend the first few days running the phone as stock as possible to make sure there's no weird hardware problems. Once that's out of the way, root (Unrevoked 3) + NAND unlock (Unrevoked Forever) + stock backup.
After that, it's all up to you.
2 other tips that bit me in the ass at first:
1. HTC's People app (contacts) has a distinction between "Google Contacts" and "Phone Contacts". Only "Google" contacts are synchronized to the Google Account linked to your phone. It sounds obvious in retrospect, but the first time I entered all my contacts they went in as "Phone" contacts by default. That made for a nasty surprise the first time I wiped my phone.
2. There was some extreme weirdness with synchronization between People and my Google Contacts online. The only way I ended up with all my contacts showing up in People (and the Dialer) correctly was to make sure they were entered into the "My Contacts" group in Google Contacts. Those warts seem to have been ironed out with Froyo though. It's still probably significantly easier to enter your contacts online though than through your phone, particularly if you dump a CSV from your Blackberry first.
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Thanks a ton man, unrevoked took his tool down, i've been checking back to see when it'll go back up.
Thank you for telling me about the contacts as well.
I recommend spending time on stock froyo non-rooted for at least a month.
You will have much more wisdom when moving to a new ROM because you will know what you like and don't like, want to add, want to remove...etc.
ALSO, it will give you enough time to find out if your incredible is defected! i thought i had a defected one cause i was having speaker issues but a nice hard reset did the trick. you will also know how your phone SHOULD work.
SexyRosieMod gets rid of the ugly sense ui at the bottom of the phone and replaces it with what you would find on vanilla android.
So far the only difference (but a very nice difference) in the EVO Camera is the adding of a shutter button on the screen. i hated having to long press the screen or use the track pad to take a picture.
I tried CM6.... it was nice and there are a few things i enjoy about it but there were things in sense ui that i just couldn't live with out. Also, CM6 was definitely buggy. I do miss being able to change the color of the android sleep clock, the power widget and the awesome wallpapers he included.
As far as Contacts go... I was lucky enough to have them backed up on Verizon already. But if you are a ROM switcher you want them backed up to your google account. I was lucky enough to figure out that i was able to import my verizon contacts as a .csv file straight into my google contacts.
ogkhaze said:
Thanks a ton man, unrevoked took his tool down, i've been checking back to see when it'll go back up.
Thank you for telling me about the contacts as well.
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if you go to that page and click the IRC channel you can easily download it in there at the top.
PhillyCheez said:
I recommend spending time on stock froyo non-rooted for at least a month.
You will have much more wisdom when moving to a new ROM because you will know what you like and don't like, want to add, want to remove...etc.
ALSO, it will give you enough time to find out if your incredible is defected! i thought i had a defected one cause i was having speaker issues but a nice hard reset did the trick. you will also know how your phone SHOULD work.
SexyRosieMod gets rid of the ugly sense ui at the bottom of the phone and replaces it with what you would find on vanilla android.
So far the only difference (but a very nice difference) in the EVO Camera is the adding of a shutter button on the screen. i hated having to long press the screen or use the track pad to take a picture.
I tried CM6.... it was nice and there are a few things i enjoy about it but there were things in sense ui that i just couldn't live with out. Also, CM6 was definitely buggy. I do miss being able to change the color of the android sleep clock, the power widget and the awesome wallpapers he included.
As far as Contacts go... I was lucky enough to have them backed up on Verizon already. But if you are a ROM switcher you want them backed up to your google account. I was lucky enough to figure out that i was able to import my verizon contacts as a .csv file straight into my google contacts.
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PhillyCheez said:
if you go to that page and click the IRC channel you can easily download it in there at the top.
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Yeah I suppose I should probably run the phone stock as it is my first HTC device, and my first Droid device, coming from a BlackBerry.
So you go into their IRC site and then its the link they have at the top, it says not to distribute it so I'm not going to post the link here.
Edit: Yeah that's the link, going to get my DInc now, and play around with it!
Any other tips?
ogkhaze said:
Yeah I suppose I should probably run the phone stock as it is my first HTC device, and my first Droid device, coming from a BlackBerry.
So you go into their IRC site and then its the link they have at the top, it says not to distribute it so I'm not going to post the link here.
Edit: Yeah that's the link, going to get my DInc now, and play around with it!
Any other tips?
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I used that link before... reflash.exe
worked like a champ!
as far as tips...
read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739428
I used this guide quiet a bit...
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_HTC_Incredible
I never installed ADB before rooting nor did I mess with the radio (risk of bricking). your DInc should have the latest radio anyways.
Have fun and good luck!
enjoy stock froyo sense ui for awhile... seriously!
PhillyCheez said:
I used that link before... reflash.exe
worked like a champ!
as far as tips...
read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739428
I used this guide quiet a bit...
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_HTC_Incredible
I never installed ADB before rooting nor did I mess with the radio (risk of bricking). your DInc should have the latest radio anyways.
Have fun and good luck!
enjoy stock froyo sense ui for awhile... seriously!
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I will definitely spend some time on stock, maybe root it at least, but I will for sure get used to it, and get to know what I want changed.
Thanks again for all your tips man.
Hey,
I'm unrevoked forever.
I'm thrilled with the leaked Dinc 2.2 rom and hydrakernel.net v0.5 kernel (under volted,but same clock speed).
This will give you enjoyment of a stable rom with root.
khanam said:
Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.
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This ^
Just switched to the virtuous ROM 4 days ago from SkyRaider's 2.5.2 (never quite got 3.0/1 working to my liking) which taking nothing from the SkyRaider ROM, it was by far the most bug free, smoothest ROM I had used to date on my DInc. However, there is always a new shiny around the corner, and Virtuous is it for me. There are far better choices though if you want to strip your phone down to nothing and have none of the "wow-factor" features or visual effects installed, but generally thats restricted to the Linux diehards that still think we have to use a terminal to operate a PC. =) I keek i keed!
I have used Frankenrom (b6) and Virtuous (from 2.1 through 2.7) fairly thouroughly and had absolutely no problem with either of them. I tried ruby for a few hours a couple days ago and was really enthusiastic with how stripped down it was. The camera didn't seem to go up to the full resolution and I was getting tired so I flashed back to Viruous and went to sleep. I'd be willing to try Ruby again though. I'll probably be giving Redemption a try too in the near future.
slak? said:
I have used Frankenrom (b6) and Virtuous (from 2.1 through 2.7) fairly thouroughly and had absolutely no problem with either of them. I tried ruby for a few hours a couple days ago and was really enthusiastic with how stripped down it was. The camera didn't seem to go up to the full resolution and I was getting tired so I flashed back to Viruous and went to sleep. I'd be willing to try Ruby again though. I'll probably be giving Redemption a try too in the near future.
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Has anyone had any experience with Uncommon Sense or CM6?
I'm currently using Ruby 1.1.1 with adrynalyne's alternate kernel and have been very pleased. My previous rom was Virtuous... and I agree with what others have said, it is a great, stable, trimmed down rom that ran great.
I want my DInc to look like this:
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Is there anyway to get this look without using CM6?
Which is the best?
Most (including myself) will say it comes down to what you prefer. I prefer miui because of some of the built in features (launcher, t9 dialer, free themes, lockscreen opens directly to a new message, built in sms popup). Some hate miui cause of the iphone resemblance. I would just recommend you try them both. It's really impossible to say if one is better than the other because they are so different in appearance and features.
I prefer cm7. Miui is basically an iPhone clone, and if that was what I wanted, i would buy an iPhone.
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Having spent time with both, and liking Miui, I've gone back to CM 7.
Miui is great for the customizing and has a lot of theme support out there, but the lack of the launcher with app drawer was a turn off (ended up using Adw) as well as the lockscreen was something I could never get to my liking.
I did like the popup Sms alot... The big reason why I switched, I go to the gym every morning and use my phone for an mp3 player...the last three days of using Miui, I kept getting freeze ups with the Miui music player. Could have been kernel related but I'm using the same kernel with CM 7 (tiamat) with no issues, but I'm also using Player Pro (which I could have used with Miui). I hadn't planned on staying with Cm 7, but after using it for the past week, I'm really happy with it now, and will continue to use at as my daily driver. I may flash Miui again to experiment though from time to time I do still keep a part of Miui in my phone though... I really like the Miui Camera app
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Having spent time with both, and liking Miui, I've gone back to CM 7.
Miui is great for the customizing and has a lot of theme support out there, but the lack of the launcher with app drawer was a turn off (ended up using Adw) as well as the lockscreen was something I could never get to my liking.
I did like the popup Sms alot... The big reason why I switched, I go to the gym every morning and use my phone for an mp3 player...the last three days of using Miui, I kept getting freeze ups with the Miui music player. Could have been kernel related but I'm using the same kernel with CM 7 (tiamat) with no issues, but I'm also using Player Pro (which I could have used with Miui). I hadn't planned on staying with Cm 7, but after using it for the past week, I'm really happy with it now, and will continue to use at as my daily driver. I may flash Miui again to experiment though from time to time I do still keep a part of Miui in my phone though... I really like the Miui Camera app
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I love miui animations and the settings is better looking. I use launcher pro and its awesome.
To fix the music, go into settings after it freezes and reboots and clear the data in the music app.
I love all the different lock screens and how simple it is. This is not an iPhone with launcher pro. It's android after being cleaned up.
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What makes MIUI more customizable then CM7??
I have tried out both and feel like CM7 has more features. Can anyone fill me, or anyone else who is curious, about main features then separate these two roms?
I am currently running Skyraider, but feel myself drifting back to one of the two mentioned before.
kubes069 said:
What makes MIUI more customizable then CM7??
I have tried out both and feel like CM7 has more features. Can anyone fill me, or anyone else who is curious, about main features then separate these two roms?
I am currently running Skyraider, but feel myself drifting back to one of the two mentioned before.
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Miui has a fully supported theme app that does way more than the cm7 one. I had a lock screen that could open 10 different apps...the notification bar is more efficient too
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Sorry for my lack of knowledge on this Knipp, as I am still trying to learn as I go. I more or less try to teach myself everything, and have done a pretty good job so far, in my eyes at least.
But, when you say "fully supported theme app", i am no so sure i understand what you mean. Does that mean, MIUI has themes with apps built into them?
I appreciate the time you take to reply to my question.
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Sorry for my lack of knowledge on this Knipp, as I am still trying to learn as I go. I more or less try to teach myself everything, and have done a pretty good job so far, in my eyes at least.
But, when you say "fully supported theme app", i am no so sure i understand what you mean. Does that mean, MIUI has themes with apps built into them?
I appreciate the time you take to reply to my question.
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No problem and Yup go to settings then themes
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I love MIUI, mainly because it looks better aesthetically, but that's just my opinion. CM7 is great too.
The deal with MIUI themes is, you can download several different themes and use aspects from each for different things (e.g. use one theme's lockscreen with another theme's notification bar, and a third's icons,etc.)
I find MIUI to be much more useable and stable too.
MIUI sometimes gets a bad rap because it CAN look like an iclone, but only if you really want it to: you don't have to theme it that way if you want it to look different.
You can change the look of everything - from the taskbar, to the kind of lock, the lockscreen background, the launcher (although I use LPP), the size and shape of the icons, sms, fonts, and even the dialler - and more. It's pretty impressive, IMHO.
knipp21 said:
I love miui animations and the settings is better looking. I use launcher pro and its awesome.
To fix the music, go into settings after it freezes and reboots and clear the data in the music app.
I love all the different lock screens and how simple it is. This is not an iPhone with launcher pro. It's android after being cleaned up.
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Thanks for the headsup on the Music fix.I figured it had to be something crazy going on.
I ended up reflashing back to Miui just after my original post earlier today.
Added a few changes that I had been using with CM 7 and now I'm back to the Miui fold once again.
I forgot how much I really do like the Miui experience. I plan to do the update to 1.9.9 later, I'm still on 1.8.26
To the OP... I would give both a try and see which you prefer...
MiUi 1.9.9 is constantly giving me fc whenever I do anything. Not sure why. It's android.process.alcore, whatever that is. Anyone able to help me? Please pm me if you can.
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For me its about the aesthetic. MIUI is ridiculously neat and crisp. Yeah I don't care for the iPhone like launcher...but oh well. I do use adw or go launcher from time to time..but the MIUI has those stock folders that are so cool. And just cause the launcher looks like an iPhone isn't so bad. Its still android. We can still do nandroid backups and flash other stuff. We can overclock our phones and play with them all day. IPhones are for yuppies, but....they are onto something with the layout/launcher. In the end it is all up to the user. CM7 is for sure something to try. Having to also flash that gapps.zip kinda is lame but but all of us like hanging out in clockwork recovery. Lol
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Yuo, the overall Miui experience is something to be enjoyed. After flashing back a few days ago, I flashed back to CM7 for a few minutes last night, and the first thing that caught my eye was the overall lack of crispness so to speak. Miui sure has the crispness to it. It is a great rom. I do still like CM 7 as well though. after a little theme work it can look really good as well.
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Yuo, the overall Miui experience is something to be enjoyed. After flashing back a few days ago, I flashed back to CM7 for a few minutes last night, and the first thing that caught my eye was the overall lack of crispness so to speak. Miui sure has the crispness to it. It is a great rom. I do still like CM 7 as well though. after a little theme work it can look really good as well.
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How did you theme it like this?
anyone using miui with the latest JDKernal? is it better with JDkernal or Tiamat?
Thanks
Honestly its all based on what you want. If you want something more iPhone like go with Miui if not go CM7. Personally i like stock Sense 3.0 so i'm running Virtuous Unity.
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anyone using miui with the latest JDKernal? is it better with JDkernal or Tiamat?
Thanks
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I was running the latest version of Tiamat and ran across someone using JD Nightly and was professing "Incredible" battery life. So I started test-driving that kernal late yesterday. So far, I'm not seeing anything incredible, but I'm going to give it a couple days to "settle" before passing judgement.
I'm mostly a lurker and try not to post much since most any question I have has already been answered (I've spent hundreds of hours on here but only posted a couple of screenshots), but I am looking for a little advice. I have been running CM7 with Tiomat kernel on my Evo for about 2-3 weeks and am pretty happy for the most part, but now I'm getting itchy to try out MIUI for the first time.
1. How does this forum infect people with the insatiable urge to constantly mod? ;-)
2. Any tips on a smooth(ish) transition? This is a pretty subjective question but I figure I will learn more from your answers than in dozens more hours poking around.
You'll be hard pressed to go back to CM.
Get the newest MIUI from MIUI.US
Use Aman Ra, Wipe Everything except SD Card and Battery Stats, if you're not fully charged. Flash MIUI then DT A2SD, if you're partitioned, boot up.
Let it settle, Reboot to Recovery, Flash Kernel (Tiamat 4.1.0 and 3.3.7 Are recommended)
Boot up And have at it.
Hey bonillamktg,
Ive used Miui for a few months as a daily driver and to be honest i loved it, its a simple interface that is easy to use but filled with features. You can overclock it stock with set cpu , out of all the roms i have tried so far i would say it was the smoothest, that flowed the best, the only issue i had was some problems with video recording. but besides that it gave me the best battery life i have ever had over 24 hours on a single charge with the stock evo battery. personally i would recommend it, and I liked it better then CM7 "only my option of course". But I say give it a shot, just nandroid up before hand so you can flash back if you dont like it!
Enjoy, hope I somewhat helped lol
Thanks, HipKat! I just read through your entire Ultimate Guide to Everything Evo 4G and learned a ton. That is probably the single most valuable post I've seen on any forum.
I've already been using Tiamat 4.1.0 and it has been good to me, so I'm glad to hear that it works well with MIUI. I fell asleep soon after posting this but I'm up now so I'll let y'all know the results.
Stevo, your description is exactly what I keep seeing over and over that makes me want to give it a shot. I feel like my setup now is a bit clumsy, it gets the job done but I have to go to 20 different places to tweak everything. Thanks! I'll let you know what the end result looks like!
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Thanks, HipKat! I just read through your entire Ultimate Guide to Everything Evo 4G and learned a ton. That is probably the single most valuable post I've seen on any forum.
I've already been using Tiamat 4.1.0 and it has been good to me, so I'm glad to hear that it works well with MIUI. I fell asleep soon after posting this but I'm up now so I'll let y'all know the results.
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Thank you!
The best part about MUIU is all the hidden little things you can do. Read the OP in the MIUI forum. Plus the built in themeing capabilities are limitless
HipKat said:
Thank you!
The best part about MUIU is all the hidden little things you can do. Read the OP in the MIUI forum. Plus the built in themeing capabilities are limitless
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With or without SBC?
I only use SBC
Yeah and thats what I was reading all about before I gave it a shot to. I say go for it and give it a flash, it really is a nice smooth rom. One thing I forgot to add before when ever I use a sense rom I am normally getting around 150mb free ram, but on MIUI I was getting easily 250mb! & yeah I feel ya, its always a pain to tweak everything to perfection. Well hopefully Miui works out for ya! Your welcome, an thanks for keeping me updated on your journey haha. Good luck
HipKat, wondering if you would know why I'm having an issue. I was actually hoping that this type of feature might be built into MIUI, but I've been using Wallpaper Wizardrii for a little while now because it crops properly for non-scrolling wallpaper and doesn't pixelate...at least not until now. With CM7 & ADW.EX, it worked perfectly, but now, it is pixelating horribly. It's not the images, they are the same ones I used before that worked well.
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HipKat, wondering if you would know why I'm having an issue. I was actually hoping that this type of feature might be built into MIUI, but I've been using Wallpaper Wizardrii for a little while now because it crops properly for non-scrolling wallpaper and doesn't pixelate...at least not until now. With CM7 & ADW.EX, it worked perfectly, but now, it is pixelating horribly. It's not the images, they are the same ones I used before that worked well.
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In ADW ex, do you have the wallpaper hack option turned off? I think that option has something to do with wallpaper quality or color depth or something. You can also try Superwall lite or MultiPicture LWP. They're both live wallpapers, but I've seen no battery drain with either and I've used both. Superwall might be better since you're just using one image.
I get amazing wallpaper quality with MIUI, especially on the default launcher. Clear defaults for ADW or use a home switcher app to see what the wallpaper looks like on the default launcher with the same app. If it looks fine on the stock launcher, it could have something to do with your install of or settings in ADW.
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I tried turning off the wallpaper hack and then went back to an image I used to get clearly and it was split in two, basically the left half of the image was moved over to the right.
You are right in how impressive the image quality is on MIUI's stock programming, even using ADW. If I really wanted to, I'd take an image editor, even something basic like MS Paint, and edit an image so it'd be centered where I want it. I change my wallpaper too often for that, though.
I found the Flikie Wallpapers app which has some great wallpapers, but I'll remember Superwall Lite for the future.
Thanks so much for the advice!
Here is where I am at now. I like the combination of Minimalistic Text, Missed It! and Quick Agenda that I put together at the top. I wish I could've integrated the SwitchPro widget into it, but it isn't scaling right for me (It leaves a big gap that I don't like). It's also not letting me edit the images for the switches, which I want to do before integrating it up there.
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well i for one have tried the tiomat kernel on the MIUI rom and so far I noticed that my battery drained a little faster than usual. The one thing i did like about it was that i was able to use the hdmi mirroring. But I went back to cyn kernel with miui in the end (^_^)
miui is awesome. i love how many pink themesbthere are...yes im a girl...and how i can customize the theme the way i want it. i promise that you will be addicted. its a lot better than any other rom, and im a flash maniac. i do have a question maybe someone can help me, I'm on the latest miui 1.12.9 when I do group text messaging it force closes? What gives? Any ideas?
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Well, unless you use the extended settings, wall paper on MIUI does scroll, so maybe the images you're using are being resized improperly. FYI, and you probably know this, but the wall paper size on scrolling desktops for the EVO are 960px x 800px @72 dpi. 480 x 800 for lock screens.
BTW, you should lose the background on your Minimalistic text. or at least turn the opacity way down.
Just saw your post now, and hopefully hipkat can help you more with this, but i think your issue is to do with the rom itself. That is one downside of Miui there is no 720 picture taking and I really want to say the rom it's self has less resolution to it, when using it i did have a lot of low quality things images, and after flashing back to a sense rom I noticed much better quality images within pictures my backrounds and even just certain apps.
Hope that helps a little, is it just wallpaper your having issues with or is it other images?
MIUI is a 180 degree spin from CM completely different but its real nice you will enjoy it very stable and complete. The 1.11.18 version worked great for me then i tried 1.11.25 and had too many issues. By the way can some1 hlp me get a copy of .18 or .12 just to have? I cant seem to find it anywere and i didit save a copy. Thanks.
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One reason why I don't use MIUI is because it doesn't have 4G support. So if you use 4G routinely, you may miss it.
True that. No 4G. For me, I don't have it here, anyhow, and have access to WiFi all the time, home and work
There are many brilliant Sense ROMs that have one HUGE drawback:
when you get an incoming call and the phone is in your pocket/backpack, the screen turns on (while in pocket). Then when you pull it out, you either accidentally hang up or maybe answer the call. Or maybe the phone will start doing all sorts of things while in pocket/backpack.
A solution by the androidforums user copas2 that works PERFECT:
Proximity Service:
http://code.google.com/p/proximitytoolextension/downloads/list
Download, install and check the "Service running" checkbox so all the checkboxes are checked. -That's it. In the notification bar you will see when the service is on, the icon will turn red.
This tool does a lot more stuff (regarding the proximity problems), for example when using Bluetooth headset etc etc...
On the download list, there's also a flashable zip to disable power button wake. Also VERY convenient, but you must have trackpad to wake or some other similar thing in order to wake the phone. I use it because when I put the phone in the pocket, I sometimes accidentally turn it on...
Before I HAD to switch to a different rom (MIUI XJ) in order not to have such annoying problems that many (fastest) sense roms have (Coolexe, AnDroid....), now I can use them again!
Hope this helps others! And a BIG thanks to copas2 for this!!!
Original thread:
http://androidforums.com/htc-desire/94942-use-proximity-sensor-disable-screen-while-pocket-3.html
So stupid htc overlooked this when they already have pocket mode for ringing.
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erklat said:
So stupid htc overlooked this when they already have pocket mode for ringing.
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Yes, it's a bug that forces you to change rom. So freaking annoying.
Thanks god for copas2.
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I do, just a different theme, otherwise same rom...
Bump.
Wow, I didn't know about this thread, I've just spotted it, thanks
I uploaded a "newer" version which doesn't have the claimed problems anymore.
Now if you choose that the ongoing notification should be disabled (meaning that no icon will be shown in the notification bar), there won't be any but you have to count with Android's handling of services. If there's no ongoing notification (so called "foreground service"), the service can be kicked out by Android when getting very low on RAM.
You can always download new versions here, althought I doubt that there will be any more. But you know: never say "never"
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Wow, I didn't know about this thread, I've just spotted it, thanks
I uploaded a "newer" version which doesn't have the claimed problems anymore.
Now if you choose that the ongoing notification should be disabled (meaning that no icon will be shown in the notification bar), there won't be any but you have to count with Android's handling of services. If there's no ongoing notification (so called "foreground service"), the service can be kicked out by Android when getting very low on RAM.
You can always download new versions here, althought I doubt that there will be any more. But you know: never say "never"
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Thanks, copas2. And know, without your excellent software, I (and probably many more) would not want to use any sense roms (the screen turning on in pocekt is just unbearable).
Thanks again, you've really made a great contribution!!!
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Thanks, copas2. And know, without your excellent software, I (and probably many more) would not want to use any sense roms (the screen turning on in pocekt is just unbearable).
Thanks again, you've really made a great contribution!!!
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Well, just because of that you could also use a Sense 3.x ROM (just as I do).
The most annoying part is when you're on headset and get an event or make/receive a call and the device stays on or even unlocked in your pocket after that. If it's faced towards your leg, it receives unwanted touches and is able to dismiss an event, a call or even initiate one.
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Well, just because of that you could also use a Sense 3.x ROM (just as I do).
The most annoying part is when you're on headset and get an event or make/receive a call and the device stays on or even unlocked in your pocket after that. If it's faced towards your leg, it receives unwanted touches and is able to dismiss an event, a call or even initiate one.
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Exactly. I'm just not a big fan of Sense 3.x ROMs, becaouse I find them laggy and not very good in multitasking. My ROM has Sense 1.9 and I find it perfect for the Desire... But, I have also had sense 3.x ROMs before and they were great, I just wanted more speed and better multitasking, which I use a lot.
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Exactly. I'm just not a big fan of Sense 3.x ROMs, becaouse I find them laggy and not very good in multitasking. My ROM has Sense 1.9 and I find it perfect for the Desire... But, I have also had sense 3.x ROMs before and they were great, I just wanted more speed and better multitasking, which I use a lot.
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I know what you mean. The truth is that a 1.9 Sense has much more free RAM than a 3.x, this is why your apps you're using can always remain in memory which makes the device more usable. I'm suffering that, it's true. What I'd really-really like to have is a 1.9 or 2.1 ODEXED ROM on a data++ partition structure. I was willing to do that (you can manage it by making symlinks for less recently used Sense bloatware packages to point them towards the SD-card) but I won't do it because I'm switching the ONE S. I don't own a ONE S yet but I don't really like it already. It has a low resolution facing camera, AMOLED display (unusable in direct sunlight) and a brick-like size. Battery is irreplaceable, no SD-card (16G data partition size only) and the stand-by button is unreachable it should've been placed to the middle because now you'd need one more finger between your thumb and your ponting finger. Albeit of all these drawbacks I need that big screen, the dual core. I think I'm gonna get used to it. The proximity extension will constantly be used of course.
copas2 said:
I know what you mean. The truth is that a 1.9 Sense has much more free RAM than a 3.x, this is why your apps you're using can always remain in memory which makes the device more usable. I'm suffering that, it's true. What I'd really-really like to have is a 1.9 or 2.1 ODEXED ROM on a data++ partition structure. I was willing to do that (you can manage it by making symlinks for less recently used Sense bloatware packages to point them towards the SD-card) but I won't do it because I'm switching the ONE S. I don't own a ONE S yet but I don't really like it already. It has a low resolution facing camera, AMOLED display (unusable in direct sunlight) and a brick-like size. Battery is irreplaceable, no SD-card (16G data partition size only) and the stand-by button is unreachable it should've been placed to the middle because now you'd need one more finger between your thumb and your ponting finger. Albeit of all these drawbacks I need that big screen, the dual core. I think I'm gonna get used to it. The proximity extension will constantly be used of course.
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If I had to buy a new phone right now, it would most certainly be the same one: ONE S! The X is way too big for me and the S looks better imho. But, since my Desire still works, I really have no real need to upgrade just yet. Plus, I have all these accessories, without which, the new phone would really be lacking in function:
1) Desktop dock with external battery charger + one spare battery
I have it beside my bed. At night, my desire functions as a night clock and I have a charged spare battery available all the time!
2) The original HTC Desire car dock
The best car dock I have ever seen in person.
See what I mean? The next phone sould really be a BIG upgrade to make me want to switch...
Honestly I hate that the Desire has so low amount of RAM and disk (NAND) space. And because one core is definitely not enough, it's time to move. Well, not really but ICS will never run on Desire. I know that the devs/modders are trying. But they don't produce a stable ROM - these are good for playing around but you can never expect them to be constantly working. I own my Desire for more than 2 years and I also tried some ROMs
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hu.copas.android.ProximityService
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Honestly I hate that the Desire has so low amount of RAM and disk (NAND) space. And because one core is definitely not enough, it's time to move. Well, not really but ICS will never run on Desire. I know that the devs/modders are trying. But they don't produce a stable ROM - these are good for playing around but you can never expect them to be constantly working. I own my Desire for more than 2 years and I also tried some ROMs
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Do let me know how you like the one s...
Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
your whole post is tldr.
you should post yer jellybomb issues in the... jellybomb thread!
but: TW anything will never be in/work with CM#/AOSP. the end.
and: this will never be moved to dev forum, because you didn't' dev anything.
spodemaster said:
Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
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There is already a Jellybomb Bug Report Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006041
^ Post there.
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devynbf said:
There is already a Jellybomb Bug Report Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006041
^ Post there.
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I posted there.
I still think the question of why these dev's don't talk about the strengths, of their particular roms.
and I'm still confused why a group like Team Venum is working on so many different roms, but they again
they don't really try and up sell or distinguish the differences.
spodemaster said:
I posted there.
I still think the question of why these dev's don't talk about the strengths, of their particular roms.
and I'm still confused why a group like Team Venum is working on so many different roms, but they again
they don't really try and up sell or distinguish the differences.
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I'm thinking because it's a matter of taste.. Not what's better.. I, prefer labrats.. It's awesome in my opinion whereas the next fellow xdaer might prefer aokp and so on...
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I'm thinking because it's a matter of taste.. Not what's better.. I, prefer labrats.. It's awesome in my opinion whereas the next fellow xdaer might prefer aokp and so on...
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Well of course thats part of it, but there are different levels of users, some of us want a cool theme, and some of us want to really tweak with our hardware, or have specific applications and tasks we want to optimize our devices to perform.
Since you know team nocturnal already and seem to like it, you should come check out the Lab Rats Rom. It is made by team nocturnal and includes the ever popular updater. There are multiple themes and mods, but there are very few apps and theming included on the base install, that way you choose what you want and it's not forced on you.
Feel free to ask any questions in our thread!
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This is just a pet peeve thing but guys, its CyanogenMod 9/10/10.1, not Cyanogen 9/10/10.1 lol. Not directed at you, just see this a lot in general
To answer some of your question, your apps will work still as the spen still functions as a stylus but some of the more integrated stuff in Touchwiz is not possible. I know on CM10.1, theres some stylus gesture features ive been testing on CM gerrit that bring some of this functionality back.
spodemaster said:
Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
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I would suggest you try Stock rooted Deodexed MA7. Then you can use Titanium to remove some of the bloat.
Then if you want to spruce it up a bit you can flash Morphology (Themes section) to change the status bar, dialer etc.
If you want a custom bootanimation Kevinrocksman (Themes section again) has a nice user friendly zip you flash in recovery and you can select a custom bootanimation.
You do what I suggested above and you will have a relatively bug free experience (unless you delete a system app you shouldn't of touched.)
spodemaster said:
Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
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I'm sure ull probably protest this statement but it sounds like you didn't follow instructions when flashing. I've been using Jellybomb since the inception and I never had one of those bugs on 13. We have to ask ourselves when we run into problems no one else has what did I do wrong? If no one is helping you figure out ur problems no one else is experiencing them. Sometimes jellybomb works better when u dirty flash on top of an older version sometimes a clean install is better. Every rom and every phone is different. There is somewhat of a luck factor when flashing that everyone expects should be universal to all roms and every phone should act the same. I've literally flashed and restored 20x in different ways and combinations to get some roms working perfect. Sometimes u just have to make sure u have all the files to fix ur phone then just play around. You only get more comfortable with the process each time u flash f it up fix it and reflash. It's not as easy as expecting others to figure it out for you but u get more out of it and u won't feel so helpless in the future. Just my $.02. Also pulling the battery in the middle of a boot cycle is never recommended for any computing device. I suspect u could be right in that ur still experiencing issues from that. U should probably Odin back to stock and try again. Also if ur firmware version isn't lk8 then that firmware is not compatible with Jellybomb 13. 13 is lk8 only. The newer 15.3 is a hybrid so u can use any firmware with the rom. And why are you still on 13 when 15.3 is out anyway?
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