Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
your whole post is tldr.
you should post yer jellybomb issues in the... jellybomb thread!
but: TW anything will never be in/work with CM#/AOSP. the end.
and: this will never be moved to dev forum, because you didn't' dev anything.
spodemaster said:
Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
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There is already a Jellybomb Bug Report Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006041
^ Post there.
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devynbf said:
There is already a Jellybomb Bug Report Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006041
^ Post there.
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I posted there.
I still think the question of why these dev's don't talk about the strengths, of their particular roms.
and I'm still confused why a group like Team Venum is working on so many different roms, but they again
they don't really try and up sell or distinguish the differences.
spodemaster said:
I posted there.
I still think the question of why these dev's don't talk about the strengths, of their particular roms.
and I'm still confused why a group like Team Venum is working on so many different roms, but they again
they don't really try and up sell or distinguish the differences.
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I'm thinking because it's a matter of taste.. Not what's better.. I, prefer labrats.. It's awesome in my opinion whereas the next fellow xdaer might prefer aokp and so on...
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sparytrainor said:
I'm thinking because it's a matter of taste.. Not what's better.. I, prefer labrats.. It's awesome in my opinion whereas the next fellow xdaer might prefer aokp and so on...
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Well of course thats part of it, but there are different levels of users, some of us want a cool theme, and some of us want to really tweak with our hardware, or have specific applications and tasks we want to optimize our devices to perform.
Since you know team nocturnal already and seem to like it, you should come check out the Lab Rats Rom. It is made by team nocturnal and includes the ever popular updater. There are multiple themes and mods, but there are very few apps and theming included on the base install, that way you choose what you want and it's not forced on you.
Feel free to ask any questions in our thread!
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This is just a pet peeve thing but guys, its CyanogenMod 9/10/10.1, not Cyanogen 9/10/10.1 lol. Not directed at you, just see this a lot in general
To answer some of your question, your apps will work still as the spen still functions as a stylus but some of the more integrated stuff in Touchwiz is not possible. I know on CM10.1, theres some stylus gesture features ive been testing on CM gerrit that bring some of this functionality back.
spodemaster said:
Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
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I would suggest you try Stock rooted Deodexed MA7. Then you can use Titanium to remove some of the bloat.
Then if you want to spruce it up a bit you can flash Morphology (Themes section) to change the status bar, dialer etc.
If you want a custom bootanimation Kevinrocksman (Themes section again) has a nice user friendly zip you flash in recovery and you can select a custom bootanimation.
You do what I suggested above and you will have a relatively bug free experience (unless you delete a system app you shouldn't of touched.)
spodemaster said:
Ok so I've been using Jelly Bomb 13 for a while now.
I've been having issues with it, I'm not sure if its the ROM itself, or if its Just Jelly Bean, and some of the Apps I run.
I'd like to explore other ROMS, but don't want to waste my time, when I'm not clear what some of the roms are offering.
I will start with my observations.
First JBomb 13 issues.
I've had weird problems with the alarm clock, changing its settings, etc...
It does this annoying thing when the lock screen wakes up if I try to lock it again the screen turns of then back on again.
Desktop rotation freezes sometimes.
Lately the entire phone freezes and I have to remove the battery to reboot it.
I don't know if this is related to skype on my phone. Skype seems to be pretty damn unstable on this phone (or all phones).
Sometimes volume control won't change volume for current app being used (probably just Android??)
There is absolutely no way to get the water and ink effect to work on my lockscreen.
Also I had an issue where I powered off the phone, but it powered up as I was removing the battery, and caused all my system settings to reset, as well as screwed up a bunch of my installed programs where I had to manually delete the files, before It would allow me to reinstall the apps. I'm not quite sure that I've fully recovered from that issue a lot of settings I had to go and tweak.
Ok my confusion and Questions:
There are several devs:
Besides their list of things they've tweaked or changed, I'm not really clear on why these are compelling reasons to use their roms.
I've noticed that [Team Nocturnal], has several different roms being worked on, but their sites don't reflect what the various branches are,
or why one may be better for certain users than others.
So my question to the Devs especially ones like [Team Nocturnal] Why don't you make specific distinctions between the various roms. It seems like to many of these roms are obsessively focused on the aesthetic.
I am assuming its more of a ME TOO thing, than "Look what I can offer you" thing.
I really liked "The Blu Khuban" from Team Nocturnal on my EPIC4G touch, I would love something like that for my Galaxy note 2, the update feature was great.
Also I have paid for stuff like Sketch Book and Papyrus, Personally I like some of the general pencil, and ink tools better, on S-Note...
Is it impossible to implement touchwiz stuff in Cyanogen? I used Cyanogen9 on my Epic4G touch and loved it except for they couldn't get the damn Wimax Modem working stable.
At the moment I think I will just go back to a stock de-odexed ROM, and tweak my OS myself as much as I can. Aesthetics are nice, but I feel like some of the tweaks in Jelly Bomb overlap and interfere with each other. Not sure if this is the case, but its very difficult to sift through 800 pages on Jelly Bomb...
INB4 wrong thread moved to dev forum...
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I'm sure ull probably protest this statement but it sounds like you didn't follow instructions when flashing. I've been using Jellybomb since the inception and I never had one of those bugs on 13. We have to ask ourselves when we run into problems no one else has what did I do wrong? If no one is helping you figure out ur problems no one else is experiencing them. Sometimes jellybomb works better when u dirty flash on top of an older version sometimes a clean install is better. Every rom and every phone is different. There is somewhat of a luck factor when flashing that everyone expects should be universal to all roms and every phone should act the same. I've literally flashed and restored 20x in different ways and combinations to get some roms working perfect. Sometimes u just have to make sure u have all the files to fix ur phone then just play around. You only get more comfortable with the process each time u flash f it up fix it and reflash. It's not as easy as expecting others to figure it out for you but u get more out of it and u won't feel so helpless in the future. Just my $.02. Also pulling the battery in the middle of a boot cycle is never recommended for any computing device. I suspect u could be right in that ur still experiencing issues from that. U should probably Odin back to stock and try again. Also if ur firmware version isn't lk8 then that firmware is not compatible with Jellybomb 13. 13 is lk8 only. The newer 15.3 is a hybrid so u can use any firmware with the rom. And why are you still on 13 when 15.3 is out anyway?
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Hello XDA,
I'm swapping out my BlackBerry Storm2 today, for an HTC Incredible.
I have been lurking around on Droid forums for a few weeks now, especially here.
I want to put CM6 on my DInc, but I have a lot of people telling me it's really buggy.
Which is the best ROM out right now? The least buggiest, preferably.
Also, which Kernal works best with which ROM?
Sorry for the seemingly stupid questions.
Thanks in advance!
Edit:
One more thing I don't quite fully understand. Do some themes only work with some ROM's?
Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.
I use Virtuous 2.7 Power Saving as well and absolutely love it.
I added the SexyRosieBrowser Mod and Rotary Lockscreen Mod and deleted a lot of the bloatware and widgets I never used from HTC and Verizon.
I also added the EVO Camera
It's pretty much the best of BOTH worlds... a mix mash of Vanilla and Sense UI!!!
very stable and only a few minor bugs that aren't that big of deal.
khanam said:
Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.
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PhillyCheez said:
I use Virtuous 2.7 Power Saving as well and absolutely love it.
I added the SexyRosieBrowser Mod and Rotary Lockscreen Mod and deleted a lot of the bloatware and widgets I never used from HTC and Verizon.
I also added the EVO Camera
It's pretty much the best of BOTH worlds... a mix mash of Vanilla and Sense UI!!!
very stable and only a few minor bugs that aren't that big of deal.
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Thanks for the quick replies guys,
I will definitely be trying Virtous out before anything else.
Some people told me CM6 was great but it was made with a heavy code. So i'm guessing it's buggy and slow at times?
It's just weird coming from a BlackBerry device that all you can do is throw on some Hybrids and .cod files :/
@PhillyCheese What are the benefits of the EVO camera? What does the SexyRosie mod do?
ogkhaze said:
I will definitely be trying Virtous out before anything else.
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Definitely recommended. Virtuous is the most stable ROM I've used on my Inc so far. Cyanogen and Ruby both do this random reboot thing on my phone -- I haven't tried any other AOSP-based ROMs.
Some people told me CM6 was great but it was made with a heavy code. So i'm guessing it's buggy and slow at times?
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I don't think it's "heavy" per se, but it has far more mods to the AOSP base than Ruby does. That also doesn't mean it's more or less buggy than other ROMs either.
What are the benefits of the EVO camera? What does the SexyRosie mod do?
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The Evo camera app has an onscreen shutter button. At least, that's the only significant difference I can find.
ardax said:
Definitely recommended. Virtuous is the most stable ROM I've used on my Inc so far. Cyanogen and Ruby both do this random reboot thing on my phone -- I haven't tried any other AOSP-based ROMs.
I don't think it's "heavy" per se, but it has far more mods to the AOSP base than Ruby does. That also doesn't mean it's more or less buggy than other ROMs either.
The Evo camera app has an onscreen shutter button. At least, that's the only significant difference I can find.
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Awesome thanks for the tip man.
So when I get the Incredible today it probably won't be running Froyo right off the bat, correct? Should I update it right away?
Also, does using ROM Manager reduce the risk of bricking your phone? That's the only thing I'm scared of.
Based off of your recommendations I'm going to give Virtuous a try for the first time. Got it queued up in ROM Manager as we speak, let the fun begin!
Actually, it probably will be running Froyo already.
Personally, I'd spend the first few days running the phone as stock as possible to make sure there's no weird hardware problems. Once that's out of the way, root (Unrevoked 3) + NAND unlock (Unrevoked Forever) + stock backup.
After that, it's all up to you.
2 other tips that bit me in the ass at first:
1. HTC's People app (contacts) has a distinction between "Google Contacts" and "Phone Contacts". Only "Google" contacts are synchronized to the Google Account linked to your phone. It sounds obvious in retrospect, but the first time I entered all my contacts they went in as "Phone" contacts by default. That made for a nasty surprise the first time I wiped my phone.
2. There was some extreme weirdness with synchronization between People and my Google Contacts online. The only way I ended up with all my contacts showing up in People (and the Dialer) correctly was to make sure they were entered into the "My Contacts" group in Google Contacts. Those warts seem to have been ironed out with Froyo though. It's still probably significantly easier to enter your contacts online though than through your phone, particularly if you dump a CSV from your Blackberry first.
ardax said:
Actually, it probably will be running Froyo already.
Personally, I'd spend the first few days running the phone as stock as possible to make sure there's no weird hardware problems. Once that's out of the way, root (Unrevoked 3) + NAND unlock (Unrevoked Forever) + stock backup.
After that, it's all up to you.
2 other tips that bit me in the ass at first:
1. HTC's People app (contacts) has a distinction between "Google Contacts" and "Phone Contacts". Only "Google" contacts are synchronized to the Google Account linked to your phone. It sounds obvious in retrospect, but the first time I entered all my contacts they went in as "Phone" contacts by default. That made for a nasty surprise the first time I wiped my phone.
2. There was some extreme weirdness with synchronization between People and my Google Contacts online. The only way I ended up with all my contacts showing up in People (and the Dialer) correctly was to make sure they were entered into the "My Contacts" group in Google Contacts. Those warts seem to have been ironed out with Froyo though. It's still probably significantly easier to enter your contacts online though than through your phone, particularly if you dump a CSV from your Blackberry first.
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Thanks a ton man, unrevoked took his tool down, i've been checking back to see when it'll go back up.
Thank you for telling me about the contacts as well.
I recommend spending time on stock froyo non-rooted for at least a month.
You will have much more wisdom when moving to a new ROM because you will know what you like and don't like, want to add, want to remove...etc.
ALSO, it will give you enough time to find out if your incredible is defected! i thought i had a defected one cause i was having speaker issues but a nice hard reset did the trick. you will also know how your phone SHOULD work.
SexyRosieMod gets rid of the ugly sense ui at the bottom of the phone and replaces it with what you would find on vanilla android.
So far the only difference (but a very nice difference) in the EVO Camera is the adding of a shutter button on the screen. i hated having to long press the screen or use the track pad to take a picture.
I tried CM6.... it was nice and there are a few things i enjoy about it but there were things in sense ui that i just couldn't live with out. Also, CM6 was definitely buggy. I do miss being able to change the color of the android sleep clock, the power widget and the awesome wallpapers he included.
As far as Contacts go... I was lucky enough to have them backed up on Verizon already. But if you are a ROM switcher you want them backed up to your google account. I was lucky enough to figure out that i was able to import my verizon contacts as a .csv file straight into my google contacts.
ogkhaze said:
Thanks a ton man, unrevoked took his tool down, i've been checking back to see when it'll go back up.
Thank you for telling me about the contacts as well.
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if you go to that page and click the IRC channel you can easily download it in there at the top.
PhillyCheez said:
I recommend spending time on stock froyo non-rooted for at least a month.
You will have much more wisdom when moving to a new ROM because you will know what you like and don't like, want to add, want to remove...etc.
ALSO, it will give you enough time to find out if your incredible is defected! i thought i had a defected one cause i was having speaker issues but a nice hard reset did the trick. you will also know how your phone SHOULD work.
SexyRosieMod gets rid of the ugly sense ui at the bottom of the phone and replaces it with what you would find on vanilla android.
So far the only difference (but a very nice difference) in the EVO Camera is the adding of a shutter button on the screen. i hated having to long press the screen or use the track pad to take a picture.
I tried CM6.... it was nice and there are a few things i enjoy about it but there were things in sense ui that i just couldn't live with out. Also, CM6 was definitely buggy. I do miss being able to change the color of the android sleep clock, the power widget and the awesome wallpapers he included.
As far as Contacts go... I was lucky enough to have them backed up on Verizon already. But if you are a ROM switcher you want them backed up to your google account. I was lucky enough to figure out that i was able to import my verizon contacts as a .csv file straight into my google contacts.
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PhillyCheez said:
if you go to that page and click the IRC channel you can easily download it in there at the top.
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Yeah I suppose I should probably run the phone stock as it is my first HTC device, and my first Droid device, coming from a BlackBerry.
So you go into their IRC site and then its the link they have at the top, it says not to distribute it so I'm not going to post the link here.
Edit: Yeah that's the link, going to get my DInc now, and play around with it!
Any other tips?
ogkhaze said:
Yeah I suppose I should probably run the phone stock as it is my first HTC device, and my first Droid device, coming from a BlackBerry.
So you go into their IRC site and then its the link they have at the top, it says not to distribute it so I'm not going to post the link here.
Edit: Yeah that's the link, going to get my DInc now, and play around with it!
Any other tips?
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I used that link before... reflash.exe
worked like a champ!
as far as tips...
read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739428
I used this guide quiet a bit...
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_HTC_Incredible
I never installed ADB before rooting nor did I mess with the radio (risk of bricking). your DInc should have the latest radio anyways.
Have fun and good luck!
enjoy stock froyo sense ui for awhile... seriously!
PhillyCheez said:
I used that link before... reflash.exe
worked like a champ!
as far as tips...
read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739428
I used this guide quiet a bit...
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_HTC_Incredible
I never installed ADB before rooting nor did I mess with the radio (risk of bricking). your DInc should have the latest radio anyways.
Have fun and good luck!
enjoy stock froyo sense ui for awhile... seriously!
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I will definitely spend some time on stock, maybe root it at least, but I will for sure get used to it, and get to know what I want changed.
Thanks again for all your tips man.
Hey,
I'm unrevoked forever.
I'm thrilled with the leaked Dinc 2.2 rom and hydrakernel.net v0.5 kernel (under volted,but same clock speed).
This will give you enjoyment of a stable rom with root.
khanam said:
Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.
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This ^
Just switched to the virtuous ROM 4 days ago from SkyRaider's 2.5.2 (never quite got 3.0/1 working to my liking) which taking nothing from the SkyRaider ROM, it was by far the most bug free, smoothest ROM I had used to date on my DInc. However, there is always a new shiny around the corner, and Virtuous is it for me. There are far better choices though if you want to strip your phone down to nothing and have none of the "wow-factor" features or visual effects installed, but generally thats restricted to the Linux diehards that still think we have to use a terminal to operate a PC. =) I keek i keed!
I have used Frankenrom (b6) and Virtuous (from 2.1 through 2.7) fairly thouroughly and had absolutely no problem with either of them. I tried ruby for a few hours a couple days ago and was really enthusiastic with how stripped down it was. The camera didn't seem to go up to the full resolution and I was getting tired so I flashed back to Viruous and went to sleep. I'd be willing to try Ruby again though. I'll probably be giving Redemption a try too in the near future.
slak? said:
I have used Frankenrom (b6) and Virtuous (from 2.1 through 2.7) fairly thouroughly and had absolutely no problem with either of them. I tried ruby for a few hours a couple days ago and was really enthusiastic with how stripped down it was. The camera didn't seem to go up to the full resolution and I was getting tired so I flashed back to Viruous and went to sleep. I'd be willing to try Ruby again though. I'll probably be giving Redemption a try too in the near future.
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Has anyone had any experience with Uncommon Sense or CM6?
I'm currently using Ruby 1.1.1 with adrynalyne's alternate kernel and have been very pleased. My previous rom was Virtuous... and I agree with what others have said, it is a great, stable, trimmed down rom that ran great.
I want my DInc to look like this:
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Deviant v0.77
Here is an attempt at changing the recent trend in Galaxy S (i9000) ROMs. It seams the focus is mostly on speed (not only speed of course but its definitely prioritized to the point of sometimes leaving little option but a stock ROM or a quick ROM), which is good for some people and great for improving OS knowledge and leading to advances all over the place but why have a modern phone with decent specs with the only advantage being the ability to load the MMS app a few milliseconds quicker? Don't get me wrong I think most of the ROMs available are great I just find there's not really anything like what I'm attempting to do (that I've come across at least). But the most experimental change I am trying to implement and my main focus in creating this ROM is to replace as many of the stock apps as possible with community made alternatives which has turned out to be quite a challenging process due to most apps not being designed to be used together in such a way and especially without the standard system apps being available to them (though some just work perfectly as full replacements many just don't, possibly due to certain system apps calling each other in ways that just causes repeated force closings at boot) but it's definitely do able as I've replaced almost all of the standard apps already but there's bound to be some issues so time will tell.
So in attempting to fill in this perceived gap I am working on a ROM that:
* Replace as many of the standard apps as possible with full featured free alternatives (SUPPORT FREE SOFTWARE!!!)
* Adding extras you may not even need but you might have fun fiddling with none the less
* Providing a ROM that you can flash then immediately just have fun with that still is fully functional and stable
* Is suitable for everyday use
* That isn't noticeably lagged
* Which contains a new custom theme (possibly to be started in the next release but it wont be a priority over useability and stability)
I hope this find at least a small appreciative audience. I am VERY open to comments and suggestions especially about good free apps that I may not have even heard of (and considering how many apps are available now days it is a definite possibility).
PLEASE NOTE! This is still very much in development, its going to have problems most likely petty little ones but there's going to be a few at least, most likely incompatibilities between apps or stock apps I've replaced that has broken the ROM in some way. But so far I'm definitely happy with the results and consider it usable and reasonably stable but there's definitely so much more I can do so hopefully there is interest in this ROM to motivate my continued work.
List of ROM changes and specifics below in following post.
Download Link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21970648/Deviant_v0.77.zip
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Cheers everyone, The_Everlasting_End
Changes and Specifics:
Changed System (Stock) APPs
MusicPlayer.apk - Mort Player BETA
Gallery3d.apk - QuickPic
Browser.apk - Skyfire Browser
DialerTabActivity.apk - Dialer2
Camera.apk - Camera Magic
VoiceRecorder.apk - Voice Recorder (not stock just not very creatively named)
MyFiles.apk - File Expert
TouchWizCalculator.apk - RealCalc
ClockPackage.apk - Alarm Clock Plus
VideoPlayer.apk -mVideoPlayer
JobManager.apk - Advanced Task Manager
Email.apk - K-9 Mail
MMS.apk - GO SMS
Maps.apk - MapQuest
VoiceSearch.apk - ChaCha Droid
Added/Extra APPs:
Superuser
Facebook
Vidiom
Torrent-Fu
Volume Control +
SGS Tools
Spare Parts
XDA forum app
Voodoo Control App
Foot Feed
Jota Text
LCD Density Changer
Quick Boot
Backup Everything
BLN Control Free
Download All Files
E-mail Notifier
Barcode Scanner
Ebuddy
AnySoft Keyboard
Contapps
Go Launcher Notifications
MortPlay Widget
PDF Viewer
Voltage Control
Youtube
Specifics:
JS5 Base (WIPE)
Super Optimized Kernel v4.7.9
GO Launcher EX
Modified Phone.apk for call recording if desired
Default LCD Density changed to 200 (looks much nicer)
Custom made Deviant boot animations (one needs some work one isn't bad though)
Installation Instructions:
Flash via clockwork (at the moment the script wont flash properly with clockwork 3 it doesn't fail but it wont install the apps correctly so if your using a voodoo kernel or another kernel with version 3 (orange menus) just flash Speedmod or something else with cw v2.5 instead of 3). Prior to flashing make sure to do a full wipe. The app "backup everything" is included in this ROM so that you may use it to back up your apps and whatever else if you are following the deviant releases. If you do decide to flash a post saying that you have flashed this ROM would be great to give me some idea of how many people are using it.
There's probably a few little changes I've forgot to mention, if anyone notices any obvious ones could you please make me aware so I can list them
Some screenshots would be nice
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Some screenshots would be nice
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There's nothing much to see screen shot wize as yet, stock theme with just a custom background... its the software differences that make it interesting so far. But yah I need to get some up thanks for the reminder!
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There's nothing much to see screen shot wize as yet, stock theme with just a custom background... its the software differences that make it interesting so far. But yah I need to get some up thanks for the reminder!
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Try to use the gray icons in the menus (settings), they look better and elegant than the colorful one's. Try also to put some info about the battery usage, most of the users aim for a ROM with good battery performance regardless of the kernel.
Very interesting ! Sure a supa-cool theme would make your rom really different !
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Try to use the gray icons in the menus (settings), they look better and elegant than the colorful one's. Try also to put some info about the battery usage, most of the users aim for a ROM with good battery performance regardless of the kernel.
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Yah I know what ya mean the stock colours are a bit rough on the eye, I'm keen to start doing some theme work as i go along but I may use a nice theme that's already available in the next release to get things looking nice before I get to it. Kernel: Most likely going to be changed anyway, possibly to something UV'ed by default but not necessarily OC'd which leads me to battery, drain doesn't seam bad at all... but I'm bin experimenting and testing different software mixes alot so I really haven't had the change to really gauge it but its not horrible at the moment (IMO).
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Very interesting ! Sure a supa-cool theme would make your rom really different !
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Thanks for your support, its still early days but I'm hoping to have something after awhile with a really alternative feel especially with the software itself.
ADWLauncher with darkEdge themes look very sleek on my phone. Try it
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Hi again,
I think different proffessionals have different requirements. If you want this to to see a logical end, make a ROM for doctors, one for engineers, one for architects, one for politicians, one for social workers, one for kids, one for teenagers, one for single MOMs, one for divorcees, Etc, Etc.
One package doesn't seriously fit ALL.
EDIT1 : A seriously overweight woman would require a diet plan software.
EDIT2 : A scientist would prefer to have wolfram & use it.
While reading the first few sentences..
I was having the idea that this rom is working towards battery efficiency..
lol.. I see you're having fun replacing stock apps..
Enjoy..
Oh, what app did you use for contact replacement ? I'm trying to replace samsung contact app with AOSP Contact App...but I fail everytime. Do you think it's possible ?
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Hi again,
I think different proffessionals have different requirements. If you want this to to see a logical end, make a ROM for doctors, one for engineers, one for architects, one for politicians, one for social workers, one for kids, one for teenagers, one for single MOMs, one for divorcees, Etc, Etc.
One package doesn't seriously fit ALL.
EDIT1 : A seriously overweight woman would require a diet plan software.
EDIT2 : A scientist would prefer to have wolfram & use it.
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hmmm I see what your saying and perhaps I haven't quite expressed my intentions perfectly yet (this is very much a work in progress)... My main intention is to switch out as many of the standard apps as possible (from the dialer to Google maps) with free community developed alternatives, this is my main aim. My secondary aim is to have something with a bit of weight to it, not ridiculously full just full of nice useful apps that cover a decent range of uses but not anything so specific as to target a specific audience.
Also thanks for advising me about those themes, I am currently looking into a few options atm. Though unsure which to persue as yet.
Also a new build will be going up in the next hour or so (my upload speed is horrible atm) which has had quite a few changes since the first release... Also keep an eye out as I will be putting alot of time towards this and are hoping for daily updates (till things reach a point I'm alot more happy with).
So please come back now and then just to see whats bin done and your comments are definately more then welcome!
profi208 said:
While reading the first few sentences..
I was having the idea that this rom is working towards battery efficiency..
lol.. I see you're having fun replacing stock apps..
Enjoy..
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Sorry though this will be something I look at down the line atm its not the highest of priorites. This is very much an experiment of sorts that may or may not develop into something good... Thanks for having a look anyway
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Oh, what app did you use for contact replacement ? I'm trying to replace samsung contact app with AOSP Contact App...but I fail everytime. Do you think it's possible ?
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ahh i see we've run into similar problems, specifically the mms and contacts apps... Atm I've pretty well settled on just adding an extra two apps and leaving them (that reminds me I need to re-add contapps its quite good). There's definitely dependance issues with those two apks which there is possibly a way around but definitely not an obvious one, I've spent a bit of time reading around but yet to have any luck and quite a lot of experimenting has left me with no luck so far sorry... Would be wonderful to hear back if you find a solution
Ok. I was thinking about a dependance issue too, so I'm looking at the other files contained, for example, in the Gapps zip of CM7. There is a LIB folder, which could be related to. Following that track : in the Lib folder of CM7, we can find some lib files related to the keyboard, the camera app, etc... But no explicit "libcontact" file (for example).
I don't think that Etc and Framework folders could be useful.
However, I'm just groping.
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Ok. I was thinking about a dependance issue too, so I'm looking at the other files contained, for example, in the Gapps zip of CM7. There is a LIB folder, which could be related to. Following that track : in the Lib folder of CM7, we can find some lib files related to the keyboard, the camera app, etc... But no explicit "libcontact" file (for example).
I don't think that Etc and Framework folders could be useful.
However, I'm just groping.
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Actually this is something I noticed aswell... When I replaced the gallery in Deviant I found I could use Floating Image as a replacement fine but that didnt cut it as a good full featured gallery (though it was cool to look at) so I decided to replace it with QuickPic which just force closed on boot, but by doing alot of reading around happened across a fix but putting a single library file from its APK into the lib folder of the rom and now it works flawlessly. Yet to find a way around the MMS or Contacts issue sadly, which is something I would really like to have fixed in a future release.
Very interesting .. we're on the right track. Maybe contacting a skilled developer (Darky, Doc,...) would be helpful? Or even the CM7 developers.
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Very interesting .. we're on the right track. Maybe contacting a skilled developer (Darky, Doc,...) would be helpful? Or even the CM7 developers.
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That could possibly help (would hate to annoy them though they are doing some really great work)... It's definitely something that gets asked around the net a bit as I've noticed while doing some research but it seams the MMS apk sets up the messaging settings in some way on first boot and can often be replaced after that, I think the easiest way to do that would be to script something to remove/switch the apk after its done its job right at the end of first boot, though doing so could be somewhat of a challenge in itself and their doesn't seam be any obvious lib files in the apk. As for my issue with the contact app, I think that's really provably to do with a dependance but then again it could just be the way all the contact apps I've tried are coded (not designed to run by them self and perhaps depending on the stock app in some way)...
I just went from BAMF to Paranoid Android 4.2 and for the life of me I can't figure out why so many people are talking up this ROM, could someone please explain it to me because I need to be missing something.
The only thing that looked interesting was the UI features which do not work correctly. The Opaque Statusbar and Taskbar do not work. Randomly they will go back to solid black then never goes back to Opaque. The Tablet UI seems awesome but the Taskbar buttons are way to small. So I figured I would change the DPI but it makes the Statusbar clock huge and the notifications area pop-up moves half-way off the screen rendering it unusable.
So after those features are taking away there really is no custom / developer settings on the ROM so it's pretty much pointless.
A lot of people like a tablet UI but don't like the smaller DPI or visa/versa et cetera.
Jubakuba said:
A lot of people like a tablet UI but don't like the smaller DPI or visa/versa et cetera.
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The Tablet UI is awesome but very poorly implemented it seems.
Shuino said:
So after those features are taking away there really is no custom / developer settings on the ROM so it's pretty much pointless.
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I came from AOKP milestone 1 to PA 2.99.5 and while I like the 4.2 I'm thinking it might be time to go back to AOKP. I thought the Phablet UI was interesting but when I tried it... it didn't work correctly. I do like the per-app customization but I'd rather customize other areas of the phone with my time. Add I miss my integrated weather on the lockscreen.
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I came from AOKP milestone 1 to PA 2.99.5 and while I like the 4.2 I'm thinking it might be time to go back to AOKP. I thought the Phablet UI was interesting but when I tried it... it didn't work correctly. I do like the per-app customization but I'd rather customize other areas of the phone with my time. Add I miss my integrated weather on the lockscreen.
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You are pretty much in the same boat am I. I was just hoping something happened during my install of Paranoid and that's why it wasn't working or features were missing or something. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this ROM is defiantly lacking.
I am staying hopeful though. Once they get this ROM out of beta maybe Tablet UI will be working, and they will include some basic customization.
I do not see any problems with PA 2.99.5 whatsoever.. It works perfectly fine..smooth, good battery life, no lags, everything works as it should.. Once again, it is a matter of preference.. You putting up this thread was a matter of preference.. But once again, it is advisable that you do not complain by making a new thread.. Just post in the PA thread.. Molesarecoming is always open to constructive criticism..Once again, the word is "constructive criticism" the diversity of ROMs in the Galaxy Nexus community is what makes many stick with the nexus. so before bashing other ROMs, please just remember you not liking it, doesnt mean it's the same for others. If you hate it so much twitter it or fb it or something. >.<
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I do not see any problems with PA 2.99.5 whatsoever.. It works perfectly fine..smooth, good battery life, no lags, everything works as it should.. Once again, it is a matter of preference.. You putting up this thread was a matter of preference.. But once again, it is advisable that you do not complain by making a new thread.. Just post in the PA thread.. Molesarecoming is always open to constructive criticism..Once again, the word is "constructive criticism" the diversity of ROMs in the Galaxy Nexus community is what makes many stick with the nexus. so before bashing other ROMs, please just remember you not liking it, doesnt mean it's the same for others. If you hate it so much twitter it or fb it or something. >.<
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I'm not bashing anyone work at all, honestly I just wanted to know if I was missing something from the ROM since so many seem to use it. I have used it for 2 days now and none of the UI tweaks are functional, or do not work properly or are just way to small with no functional way to increase size. But the ROM is smooth and quick with insane boot speed.
Here is info on PA 2.99+ in a nutshell. First and foremost, you all downtalking tabletui need to realize that it does not actually exist in android 4.2, the paranoidandroid team found it deactivated by google in the code for 4.2 and they spent their time making it available again, it is in no way a finished product, if you want to see it work good then download a version of PA with an android 4.1x base ( i.e. PA 2.54 or before). Now onto people that cannot see the big deal, well anyone that tried the pre 4.2 PA knows that there is more customization available in PA than any other rom put together. Now PA 2.99+ are all AOSP based instead of CM based so they basically are building this rom from scratch to improve speed, performance and battery life for everyone, this means that a lot is not even integrated back into the rom yet. Simply trying out the newest PA will not give you a feel for why it is hands down the best rom out there. As for transparency, that only works on the homescreen and in order to properly utilize it you must A. be using a compatible launcher which has the homescreen backgrounds drawn correctly ( i.e. Apex, Stock or Holo etc, NOVA does not work) B. Choose a correct transparent hexcode or slide the transparency bar to where you would like it for that said Launcher in the "apps" section of paranoid preferences. I am on 2.99 Beta 5 and have full transparency with no issues that you speak of (Photo included as proof), in fact, Beta 5 has added almost everything I want back into the rom and fully functional, I can hardly wait for v3.0, seriously, I cannot see ever using another rom after using paranoidandroid, it just has the edge on everything else out there. AOKP and CM have nothing on it especially when it's at 100% again, which will be in the next couple weeks at the rate it's awesome devs work at!
tabUI is not existant in 4.2, what you see right now is raw honeycomb. if you want to see how good it was install 2.54, thats still based on 4.1. but right now i got to make my hands dirty with this. i know that on xda most people do not understand the difference between developing and kanging, and they wonder "why's this rom slower than others" but someones gotta do the dirty work and im okay if crackflashers avoid ours. they avoid cm for the same reason.
as for hybrid engine, i dont think you have understood it yet. it works flawless and it gives you more customization than all roms on xda combined, IF you can handle it. yes, you are able to make a button pink in this and that rom, but hybrid can transform thousands of apps and components to the better, with practical implications that are unheard of. the apps that are running on your huge 720p screen were not optimized for it, they're in the same layout that applies to pocketwatches or stone age miniature phones like the htc wildfire.
as for opacity, no app, obviously, draws underneath the bars - why would it. the launcher can do it, but again - not all do. nova has even a bug that offsets the wallpapers which leaves a black gap. our launcher works, apex works, holo works and perhaps a bunch of others. no rom does it differently, simply because its impossible.
the real difference is that we are producing features that push androids boundaries, we are sick of a homogen rom culture that hasnt really moved one inch for a couple of years now. all these roms are the same, do you realize that? kanging has produced one grey mass and nothing stands out. when we are done with our beta we will of course bring in all the essential features aswell, but new features have greater priority. and these blow everthing related to it clean out of the water.
compare build.prop hacks with hybrid engine, its like night and day. this is quite possibly the biggest rom scene improvement android has ever had.
compare rom scene color tweaks with per-app-color, its like night and day. normal roms are static, they give you one color and thats that. our colors shift from app to app.
compare extended desktop (which also came from us) with per-app-fullscreen
compare our recents with clearall implementations,
we had the most versatile toggles on android in 4.1 (right now we're implementing a new panel which will come in beta6)
etc.
but you got to understand that this stuff takes alot of time. i know i could just rename an open source rom, call myself "founder," post in 30 device forums and make craploads of money here on xda, but i chose not to and im happy i found a few guys that think in the same way. im content with the few people that use PA and the support i get from those, i dont see myself competing with any other rom for that matter. i dont feel like i have to stop all my work now just because this and that rom has a minor option that we dont have at the moment.
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tabUI is not existant in 4.2, what you see right now is raw honeycomb. if you want to see how good it was install 2.54, thats still based on 4.1. but right now i got to make my hands dirty with this. i know that on xda most people do not understand the difference between developing and kanging, and they wonder "why's this rom slower than others" but someones gotta do the dirty work and im okay if crackflashers avoid ours. they avoid cm for the same reason.
as for hybrid engine, i dont think you have understood it yet. it works flawless and it gives you more customization than all roms on xda combined, IF you can handle it. yes, you are able to make a button pink in this and that rom, but hybrid can transform thousands of apps and components to the better, with practical implications that are unheard of. the apps that are running on your huge 720p screen were not optimized for it, they're in the same layout that applies to pocketwatches or stone age miniature phones like the htc wildfire.
as for opacity, no app, obviously, draws underneath the bars - why would it. the launcher can do it, but again - not all do. nova has even a bug that offsets the wallpapers which leaves a black gap. our launcher works, apex works, holo works and perhaps a bunch of others. no rom does it differently, simply because its impossible.
the real difference is that we are producing features that push androids boundaries, we are sick of a homogen rom culture that hasnt really moved one inch for a couple of years now. all these roms are the same, do you realize that? kanging has produced one grey mass and nothing stands out. when we are done with our beta we will of course bring in all the essential features aswell, but new features have greater priority. and these blow everthing related to it clean out of the water.
compare build.prop hacks with hybrid engine, its like night and day. this is quite possibly the biggest rom scene improvement android has ever had.
compare rom scene color tweaks with per-app-color, its like night and day. normal roms are static, they give you one color and thats that. our colors shift from app to app.
compare extended desktop (which also came from us) with per-app-fullscreen
compare our recents with clearall implementations,
we had the most versatile toggles on android in 4.1 (right now we're implementing a new panel which will come in beta6)
etc.
but you got to understand that this stuff takes alot of time. i know i could just rename an open source rom, call myself "founder," post in 30 device forums and make craploads of money here on xda, but i chose not to and im happy i found a few guys that think in the same way. im content with the few people that use PA and the support i get from those, i dont see myself competing with any other rom for that matter. i dont feel like i have to stop all my work now just because this and that rom has a minor option that we dont have at the moment.
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Wonderfully said.
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PA 2.54 on epic 4g touch
I just flashed to this rom yesterday and really like it so far. I am interested in flashing to the newest 2.99 version. Where I can get the correct download for my phone, and do I need to update my recovery and if so, where do I get the link for that?
Thanks
btvolta said:
I just flashed to this rom yesterday and really like it so far. I am interested in flashing to the newest 2.99 version. Where I can get the correct download for my phone, and do I need to update my recovery and if so, where do I get the link for that?
Thanks
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I think the new 4.2 based PA roms might only be available for the Nexus series phones and tablets currently since the developers have started over building it from the ground up using AOSP source instead of CyanogenMod. I am not certain if the code is out there for other devs to build on their particular devices yet though.
Thank you @saranhai for the awesome image once again!!
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Hi, this thread is to put all the roms in one spot for easy to find and easy access at all times. I will not have them in particular order besides popularity for the most part. I'm doing this to help and keep clutter to a minimum in Gerneal and q&a. Try to eliminate the "best rom" threads or "what's wrong with this rom" type threads... I do not own this phone, so I'm strictly going off what I read in the thread, and users opinions. I do own the S III and know my roms pretty well, even most of your devs haha. I'm more than willing to listen and take advice to thoughts and opinions on how to make this thread better and help provide service to you guys, just comment and let me know Now lets get this started.
I will update this as often as possible maybe once a week with updates and edits, or any thoughts that I like. might be more might be less.
Touchwiz Roms
This will not have the full the list of features you can read the OP for that, these have the ones I noticed that caught my eye and will make a good reason for the rom to be noticed to me at least.
WICKED™ Deviant Development
I'm reading a lot of user error, meaning the rom is Wicked Awesome as usual. I suggest reading before flashing and all should be gravy if you do so mainly the difference in bloated and de-bloated versions.
Features;
Menu to Kill
Many tweaks for battery and speed
Mms Tweaks
Themed SystemUI (white)
MMS Over Wifi
✫★✫ INFAMOUS S4™ ✫★✫
This rom is a solid rom, custom built in kernel by the dev himself.
Features
Menu to kill
AOSP Browser with native sync
Faux Sound support and built in fast charge via stock kernel.
☆ DARTHSTALKER S4 ☆
This rom is great and is worked on heavily to have some awesome features
Features:
Volume Boosting Sound Hack
Unlimited Contacts Joining
Unlimited SMS Recipient Limit
Messaging App Screen On/Off Toggle
Device Status Info "Official" Instead Of "Custom" Mod
Modified Stock Camera App With Disabled Camera/Camcorder "Low Battery"
"Can't Use Flash"
"Unable To Start While In A Call" Alerts So Now You Can Use Flash/Camera/Camcorder Even When Your Phone's Battery Is Running Low Or During A Phone Call
Use The Camera To Take Pictures While On A Call
I had to hide that cause it was that huge lol. I'm not reading too much with issue besides user stuff and not reading the thread as I've already solved a couple if they popped up on my end and they're not problems, just different preference!!
Death Star
Deviant Themer now getting his hands a little deeper into it . Delivering a themed rom.
Features
Themed in blue
Centered Clock
Battery Tweaks & UI Tweaks
CRT off mod
Star Wars Sounds in UI
WarpDrive
Start of a rom with potential. Elesbb definitely has his foot in the door already, great to see him being more active in the forums
Features
Completely user-end customization
Screen on toggle for SMS notifications
Native tethering
Call recording
Apollyon Virgin Theme
This seems like a great start to a neat rom, has an AOSP look to it.
Features
It basically has a the basics and a lot of battery and speed tweaks, so far.
~Frosty Jellybean S4~
DJ did some great work for the S III. Seems a lot of people like the rom and are happy it does have an issue with status bar it seems here is the post with image of issue not sure if t hat was just that person or an all around issue so read the thread.
Freatures: OTA Update support
Ink Effect
Native tethering
Disabled Slideshow for single picture message
Modified Stock-MDL
This is your basic stock modified rom, with root.
Features
Deviant kernel
Deodexed
Extended power menu
Working Init.d
Official STOCK firmware collection for Galaxy S4
These are your basic official stock firmwares
ORIGINALAOSP & AOKP & PA Roms
These are the roms that aren't built from a Touchwiz base. These are Nexus style roms with added stuff to make them their own roms. Some might be pure some might be packed with features. For the most part these will all contain similar major bugs... for example Camera, Bluetooth, Audio, GPS. Just look for the main post and more so look at the last 5-10 pages of rom threads latest release. So if the rom was released 6-1-13 look back at the release and pages forward for bugs.
Things broken across the board
Headphone calls audio
CM Nightlys
These are the nightlys I'm putting this here mainly cause they are from the official source, couldn't tell you why CM or a team member isn't opening a thread for the OG dev section for the forum but, it it is what it is for now. CM is well CM, the nightlys are a constant build that is made nightly for users to get their fix. Some things will be broken somethings will be fixed and than others will break... its a game, everyonce monthISH you'll get a milestone which is a mid-development stable build, there will be RCs which are Release Cantidates pretty close to stable if not stable, and then there is stable, rare but you'll see them, and just cause it is stable to someone doesn't make it stable for you so be aware naturally .
Features
It's CyanogenMod it has the essentials but not all the quirks like AOKP or PA, but it will not have their issues either
ParanoidAndroid 3.60 - Hello Halo
This is official Paranoid Android, it has HALO, if you don't know what it is, it's as close to Multi-Window you are going to get. Notificcation in drawer but on full screen game or movie? Halo will allow you to respond without issues. Bugs...tablet ui and phablet ui are borked on all xxhdpi device.
Features
HALO notifications
MultiWindow integrated
DashClock integrated
Halo Beta app integrated
PIE
QuickSettings
Task650 AOKP
Task is one hall of a Dev and takes so much time to get his builds up and his own kernels for the most part. His work on the SIII is great, and you're all luchy he is posting his builds for you on here. He is straight AOKP nothing less, maybe more!
Everything is reported to be working under my readings, let me know if I'm wrong, except the exceptions of course.
SlimBean
SlimBean is a great rom, it has been the beginning of many great roms as well, it has minor issues as all these AOSP roms seem to for now.
Features
The Real Dark Slim
Notification drawer Shortcuts
Full hardware key rebinding!
SlimCenter
OFFICIAL NIGHTLIES PAC-ROM
This is an all in one rom AOKP & CM & PA.
Features
PA Hybrid settings
Rom control
AOKP Ribbon
PIE
HALO Very soon if it builds properly
AOSP & AOKP & PA Roms
These are the roms that aren't built from a Touchwiz base. These are Nexus style roms with added stuff to make them their own roms. Some might be pure some might be packed with features. For the most part these will all contain similar major bugs... for example Camera, Bluetooth, Audio, GPS. Just look for the main post and more so look at the last 5-10 pages of rom threads latest release. So if the rom was released 6-1-13 look back at the release and pages forward for bugs.
AOKP/CM10.1/PA ReVolt JB
This is CM & AOKP & PA all in one... Read thread for issues as I'm typing this (6-11-13) camera and voice calls are broken, should be fixed very soon though.
Features
ROM Control Features
Hybrid Engine|Paranoid Preferences
Per-App-DPI
Navigation Bar Color
Option to select Saving Location in Camera
AOKP Ribbons
Lock Screen Shortcuts
Illusion
This is a Root-Box Base with AOKP, Paranoid Android, SLIM, TeamBaked, CyanogenMod stuff also Camera is a little weird with resolution (6-11-13) and Headphone Jack and others too I'm sure as it's early in the dev game for this phone, and the fact that Ramsay is blind devving at the moment, til he gets the device.
Features
Illusion settings
Dark UI
Hybrid Settings
Per-App DPI Settings
Rom Control
Custom Hardware Keys
Notification Drawer Options
Power sound on plug-in/plug-out
Custom Lockscreen Sliders & Shortcuts
PIE Controls
Custom Statusbar Options
Custom MMS Settings
Avatar ROM
This is a CM10.1 base and changed to their liking. Expect the issues you get with CM rom as it is its base.
Features
Themeable MMS app
Themeable boot animation
Font Theming
OTA updater
Support for complex unlock gestures
Bazooka Launcher
MysteriousROMS BIONIC
AOKP?? I'm not sure what this all has as the OP is very unclear to what features are add ons are there or what doesn't work since it has no real feedback. DL and install at your own discretion.
You got yourself an S4? Nice bro! Hope you like it! I love mine!!
He said he doesn't have an s4 lol and these thread is a very good idea
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Ya no IV and had a few requests for this over here, so had the day off and no plans but vegitate so I did this today lol.
T-Mobile SGS III
Thread cleaned... and thank you op for doing this on your day off (and for free I might add) to help people who need it... BTW for those not in the know... none of us here at XDA get paid... we do this to make our devices better, share and help each other...
Thanks given. Can anyone explain to me why CM 10.1 is a) posted in the general section instead of original development and b) not on this list. In the CM thread the explanation made little sense to me. It appears to be an official build. Thanks in advance.
Shout out to my bro! This thread will definitely eliminate all the cluster we got in these threads. Thanks a lot mt3g!
I'll help you in keeping this thread up to date.
Sent from my rooted S4!
Dr. Fed said:
Thanks given. Can anyone explain to me why CM 10.1 is a) posted in the general section instead of original development and b) not on this list. In the CM thread the explanation made little sense to me. It appears to be an official build. Thanks in advance.
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I'll look into it and check on things tonight before I crash. Got work in 7 hours so hopefully it won't take long.
T-Mobile SGS III
mt3g said:
I'll look into it and check on things tonight before I crash. Got work in 7 hours so hopefully it won't take long.
T-Mobile SGS III
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Thanks dude, no rush. Get some rest!
Good stuff! I was wondering when this might show up :highfive:
Dr. Fed said:
Thanks dude, no rush. Get some rest!
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Added Cm nightly with a little detail to it. Will get more in depth tomorrow or asap. My main guess on why it isn't in OG Dev section yet, is cause they want it more stable before an official release so the thread doesn't get hammered with negativity, just a thought though.
I believe the reason it is posted in general and not original is because someone made the thread as a sort of FYI, cm10.1 is here. I believe the person who is actually maintaining it just hasn't made his own thread in our forum, thats not to say that someone will eventually. I think he is too busy and important Lol. Oh well. I may be way off base too. Idkk
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Love it!
Great job putting together this summary of current Roms.
Just a couple ideas..
1. This should certainly be sticky in either this or a dev section if it is well maintained.
2. If you would like help from those of us w/S4's testing these Roms, it could also be a good idea to throw this info into an excel sheet on google docs where people can add lists of bugs to report for each release and help to update information as it comes out. (All can be subject to OP approval of course)
Consolidation can be very helpful with the right amount of collaboration.
Thanks for this!
inphamous36 said:
I believe the reason it is posted in general and not original is because someone made the thread as a sort of FYI, cm10.1 is here. I believe the person who is actually maintaining it just hasn't made his own thread in our forum, thats not to say that someone will eventually. I think he is too busy and important Lol. Oh well. I may be way off base too. Idkk
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The main maintainer of the Galaxy S4 CM10.1 is Cyanogen/Steve Kondik himself.
PseudoChris said:
Great job putting together this summary of current Roms.
Just a couple ideas..
1. This should certainly be sticky in either this or a dev section if it is well maintained.
2. If you would like help from those of us w/S4's testing these Roms, it could also be a good idea to throw this info into an excel sheet on google docs where people can add lists of bugs to report for each release and help to update information as it comes out. (All can be subject to OP approval of course)
Consolidation can be very helpful with the right amount of collaboration.
Thanks for this!
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I have mine in the s3 stickied and up to date, no excel spreadsheet since I can test and play and write up issues. It is a nice idea though for sure, I'll look into it more when I get time.
cosine83 said:
The main maintainer of the Galaxy S4 CM10.1 is Cyanogen/Steve Kondik himself.
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I thought that was the case which is why I figured they were waiting til they get an RC to put out to start a thread.
T-Mobile SGS III
I was also thinking I would add confirmed ROMs that work on the T-mo S4, since I know some other carriers will work, with missing features like WiFi calling of course.
T-Mobile SGS III
mt3g said:
I was also thinking I would add confirmed ROMs that work on the T-mo S4, since I know some other carriers will work, with missing features like WiFi calling of course.
T-Mobile SGS III
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I think this is a good idea. Some people don't wanna venture out and try it unless they know someone else has tried it. If you do that you may want to link to the thread explaining the process of flashing some other carriers ROMs.
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inphamous36 said:
I think this is a good idea. Some people don't wanna venture out and try it unless they know someone else has tried it. If you do that you may want to link to the thread explaining the process of flashing some other carriers ROMs.
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda premium
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Yah I'll post the procedure since I'm using an Att rom on my T-Mobile device.
Sent from my rooted S4!
inphamous36 said:
I think this is a good idea. Some people don't wanna venture out and try it unless they know someone else has tried it. If you do that you may want to link to the thread explaining the process of flashing some other carriers ROMs.
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda premium
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That's the main reason I'm hesitant to do so. Some builders have in their updater script for their specific device and I'm not going and changing the updater-script on all of them lol. We'll see how helpful people are and if so I'll jump on things too to do what I can.
T-Mobile SGS III
mt3g said:
That's the main reason I'm hesitant to do so. Some builders have in their updater script for their specific device and I'm not going and changing the updater-script on all of them lol. We'll see how helpful people are and if so I'll jump on things too to do what I can.
T-Mobile SGS III
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, we already have a guide available for how to flash other carriers Roms.
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As good a place as any to post this.
Pio-masaki.com is being shut down due to a Cease and Desist order sent against the host by Google and homeland security. I have no idea why, however until this is sorted out, and to avoid any possible or further legal issues, the site is down for a period of time that can be a day or forever. This includes any and all ROMs, kernels, gapps packages, for any and all devices, that were hosted on pio-masaki.com.
I apologize in advance for this as I know some ROMs are only available at pio-masaki.com, but it is out of my hands, the host has to consider their own safety, and has my 100% agreement and backing in taking down the site until the matter is resolved.
As this is a very large matter, and one that has us incredibly scared, I'm retreating from android for the time being, until I know what it was that I did that was illegal, and may return once this is cleared up and blows over.
After this is cleared up the hosting for pio-masaki.com may still remain offline as the hoster has some personal issues with me at this point and may or may not continue to host for me, should we resolve our differences it may return.
If by some chance Google or whoever sent the C&D notices this, I urge you to contact me as I was responsible for what was hosted, and would genuinely like to know what the issues are so we can get them resolved immediately.
I will be making similar postings or editings to any other ROM threads that link to pio-masaki.com.
What is CarbonROM?
CarbonRom is an aftermarket firmware based on the Android Open Source Project. We are dedicated to fast, stable, and feature-filled roms, honesty and communication with our users, and openness with our code. We like frequent builds, with the very latest and greatest hardware support and fixes. We strive to not only provide you with the best rom we can build, but also to give back to the Android community and our fellow developers. For us, this is about creating something we can be proud of and hope you will enjoy.
Please feel free to look at, build, and use our code on CarbonDev GitHub.
We would like to thank CyanogenMod for their device trees, framework/settings mods and their code that was incorporated into this project. We also extend our gratitude to the devs whose code that we have incorporated. Proper authorship has been maintained and can be viewed on our repository.
Special thanks also go to Slim Rom for some of their features, PA, AOKP, and anyone else we may have borrowed commits from that hasn't been mentioned here. If you feel you have been unfairly left out, please - let us know.
While we make every effort to test these builds as much as possible, we are not responsible for anything that may happen to your device, family, pets, or perception of reality. We ask that you do your part to know your device and know how to recover from problems before you flash! If you have questions, ask your fellow users or ask us in #teamcarbon on freenode IRC.
1.6 is a pretty big update for us! Check out the changelog on our goo.im page for more, but here are the highlights:
-PIE
-HALO
-Floating Application windows (long press app in recent apps list)
-Lock screen rotation is back
-Dark Carbon! Huge props to Slim Roms for coming up with this unique and awesome feature.
-Lockscreen theming
-CM skinny battery is back!
-Volume key lock on silent mode option
-Backup tool - if you're flashing a new version of Carbon and already have the required version of gapps installed, it will be backed up and restored during install. This applies to system apps and custom host files as well. Please note that you should only dirty flash from Carbon to Carbon. It's ok if it's another version or a nightly - just not over other roms. Super handy for you crack flashers. Make sure you've got the most recent Gapps though, and if you're flashing from a factory reset, you'll still need to install it after install of course.
-Long pressing the "clear recents" button clears the cache
-AOKP's awesome new navbar settings
-NFC polling mode for when you want to keep your screen off and scan tags
-MMS and call "breathe" feature. Makes the notification icon fade in and out.
-Mute dings when changing volume
-Disable/enable CRT effect on screen on/off.
-3rd party keyboard bug fixed
-deodexed again
-stability and speed enhancements
-a million other little things as well - we basically don't even sleep anymore.
*not all features are available on the A100 tablet.
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Carbon Updates
Join us on these Social Media Channels to keep yourself up-to-date on all the latest Carbon news, updates, contests, and more! Join our completely open Google+ community for insider conversation with devs and other users!
Who is Team Carbon?
andros11
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Instructions:
Please clean flash this, there's so many extra settings that dirty flashing will likely cause problems. If you dirty flash, please don't report any issues until you flash clean and the issue occurs again!
Please use a proper 4.2.2 Gapps package, using inversed or any modded versions can and likely will cause issues, please use the current 4.2.2 from goo.im, if you use inverted or modded Gapps, please don't report issues until you clean flash with a proper package from goo.im!
Download the ROM
Download the current 4.2.2 Gapps from goo.im or pio-masaki.com
Place files someplace useful
Boot into recovery
This part assumes you know how to operate your installed recovery
Wipe system
Factory reset
Wipe dalvik
Flash CarbonROM
Flash Gapps
Reboot
Let settle for a few minutes after booting
Setup device as usual
If you have issues on first boot, flash the ROM only, then after it boots, reboot and flash Gapps then manually setup your device in settings.
Change Log
8.01.13-B1:
initial build for experimenting, didn't boot.
8.01.13-B2:
Next try, boots, SystemUI crash makes it unusable, no nav/status bars
8.02.13:
WiFi works, SystemUI persistent crashing still makes device unsable.
8.02.13-B2:
BT, WiFi, sound all work, persistent SystemUI crashes still occuring.
8.03.13:
All works, SystemUI crash fixed, PIE crashing, battery mods missing, Torch doesn't work.
8.03.13-B2:
All works, Torch works
8.03.13-B3:
Fixed PIE crashing, fixed missing battery mods. Rom is now fully operational.
FAQS
If you didn't read the bugs list below, go down and read that now, asking the same questions over and over is a trademark of xda and I hate it, please read the change log and bug list before posting questions or reporting issues.
Q. I want to use this build(s) as a base for my ROM, or I want to host/re release it in another country/forum, can I?
A. You may, but only if you send me a PM about it first. I've had a bit of trouble with people taking credit for my work, and I'm getting sick of it. I don't mind sharing and whatnot, but taking my build, adding a build.prop tweak and releasing it on another forum with no mention of my name is not acceptable. As for re releasing on another forum, you may if you just shoot me a link to the post about it, I would rather you link directly to this thread if possible. For those posting in forums of other languages (I know some users might in Russia, for example, use my ROMs) feel free to post for your native languages, and please include a link here also.
Q. I want to report an issue, can I just post it in your thread without reading or doing any basic troubleshooting, googling, reading or wiping?
A. Well you CAN, you may be ignored or flamed for it. Please read above, and please read the Bugs and Change Log lists before reporting anything. Please flash a clean download, flash a clean wipe, and don't restore stuff from TiBu, thats basic troubleshooting, check if the issue persists, if it does, then feel free to post about it.
Q. Is this daily driver ready?
A. Can't answer that, what a person needs from their phone varies from person to person, what I may consider fine for my use may be 500 kinds of broken for another user. Example, I don't use my camera often, maybe once a month, and my BT has never been turned on for the last 5 devices, for me broken BT audio and camera doesn't make it a non daily driver ROM. Please read and decide for yourself if features included outweigh the broken, or if broken things are required for your comfortable use of your device.
Q. How can I build my own versions?
A. I'm not going to write a guide, I did write one for CM9 which is 99.99% still a working guide aside from source urls for updated jellybean. Otherwise there are plenty of very well written guides on how to build ROMs, individual questions about build it can be asked here if you wish as this is a development thread.
Q. Can I use -insert kernel name here-?
A. You can probably use any kernel you want, but WiFi and such won't work. If you don't mind no WiFi feel free to use any kernel that will boot.
Q. Your files all download as index.php!
A. This happens on certain browsers, namely the stock browser and Chrome. You can either use another browser (naked and dolphin don't do this) or simply rename the file to something useful, like "piostotallyepicawesomesaucedrizzledromthatrocksyo urass.zip"
Bugs:
MIC doesn't work
Camera crashes when you change resolutions
WiFi may not connect after being turned off, needing a reboot to come back up
Google Search doesn't work (no MIC)
Headset MIC also doesn't work
ROM may get stuck booting, powering off and on will have it boot again, not sure where this is coming from.
More, I'm sure.
Downloads:
Please visit http://pio-masaki.com for all my ROM builds
CARBON-JB-UNOFFICIAL-20130803-2330-a100.zip
WHOA BUNDY! This ROM is amazing! Finally some 4.2.2 action on the A100. Thanks!
This looks very interesting indeed. Without MIC support it can't be my daily as I Skype alot, but a working 4.2.2 on this old tablet is amazing in itself! Great work as always Pio.
MrCubbins said:
This looks very interesting indeed. Without MIC support it can't be my daily as I Skype alot, but a working 4.2.2 on this old tablet is amazing in itself! Great work as always Pio.
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Actually, try a headset, or plug then unplug headphones, it works on the thrive for audio to get working properly, may work here too, they use the same audio system, drivers and libs.
Well I didn't have time to play much last night but have had a proper look around the ROM today.
4.2.2 on A100 is FAST!! Very impressive. I noticed some issues so thought it might be helpful to catalogue them here.
MIC is definitely not working. Tried the headphone thing but nothing Voice Search force closes on launch and Recorder can't hear anything.
The Halo app (which I gather is one of the big draws in this ROM) force closes when you select it. Oddly, it's like it might be corrupted or something as the icon is showing as just a little droid and the app title is showing as HALO))).
Changing the camera resolution causes the camera to FC (front or rear camera) ... Afterwards a dialog box tells you that it "Can't connect to the camera". This was a problem in the older 4.1.2 ROMs as well but I believe Hardslog discovered a fix somehow so I am sure he will be able to give you the info.
If there is anything else I come across during my exploring I will let you know. I'm enjoying having new things to play with!
MrCubbins said:
Well I didn't have time to play much last night but have had a proper look around the ROM today.
4.2.2 on A100 is FAST!! Very impressive. I noticed some issues so thought it might be helpful to catalogue them here.
MIC is definitely not working. Tried the headphone thing but nothing Voice Search force closes on launch and Recorder can't hear anything.
The Halo app (which I gather is one of the big draws in this ROM) force closes when you select it. Oddly, it's like it might be corrupted or something as the icon is showing as just a little droid and the app title is showing as HALO))).
Changing the camera resolution causes the camera to FC (front or rear camera) ... Afterwards a dialog box tells you that it "Can't connect to the camera". This was a problem in the older 4.1.2 ROMs as well but I believe Hardslog discovered a fix somehow so I am sure he will be able to give you the info.
If there is anything else I come across during my exploring I will let you know. I'm enjoying having new things to play with!
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There's two parts of Halo))), the part you're talking about, doesn't matter unless you want a specific app always to be in Halo, otherwise HALO itself works just fine. The app itself isn't required or the "big draw" to the ROM, HALO can be managed just fine without it, and originally the app wasn't included, I hadn't noticed it was included now anyways lol
The camera issues are partly due to we're using camera parts from 5 versions of android ago, I'm sure it can be patched up again but it's getting annoying having to fix storage, audio, cameras, and kernels EVERY SINGLE MINOR UPDATE to android. We're not talking 4.1 to 5.0, its 4.1 to 4.2.
AFAIK it wasn't reported my 4.1.2 builds ever had camera issues, though. Keep in mind I was doing that blind, if no one told me I would never have known.
Google search doesn't force close for me, but it also doesn't hear anything, so that doesn't count for much lol
pio_masaki said:
There's two parts of Halo))), the part you're talking about, doesn't matter unless you want a specific app always to be in Halo, otherwise HALO itself works just fine. The app itself isn't required or the "big draw" to the ROM, HALO can be managed just fine without it, and originally the app wasn't included, I hadn't noticed it was included now anyways lol
The camera issues are partly due to we're using camera parts from 5 versions of android ago, I'm sure it can be patched up again but it's getting annoying having to fix storage, audio, cameras, and kernels EVERY SINGLE MINOR UPDATE to android. We're not talking 4.1 to 5.0, its 4.1 to 4.2.
AFAIK it wasn't reported my 4.1.2 builds ever had camera issues, though. Keep in mind I was doing that blind, if no one told me I would never have known.
Google search doesn't force close for me, but it also doesn't hear anything, so that doesn't count for much lol
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Does that mean I can safely remove the HALO))) apk without affecting the functionality of Halo itself?
I reported the camera res change issues quite awhile ago to hardslog, though I think at that point you had stopped development on the A100. I remember him saying he would look into a fix and I think awhile after he cured it. Can't remember if he listed on here what the actual cause of the problem is though.
This potential to customize how this ROM behaves is absolutely incredible. I spent the last couple of hours messing about with swipe bars and pop up menus and the various combinations possible... it really is clever stuff. Was rather confusing to figure out what is what at first. I've still not found a way to change the button size on the pie... any additional buttons added get squashed up at one end of it. Is there anywhere in the menu where this can be altered? Also, directly surrounding the pie buttons there is a thick bar which is partially blue... looks like a volume slider or something but I can't seem to get it to do anything??
All in all a very interesting ROM thank you Pio. Given that it is early days on 4.2.2 for the A100, do you think there is any chance that the MIC will be fixable in the future? Does it work ok on your Thrive?
MrCubbins said:
Does that mean I can safely remove the HALO))) apk without affecting the functionality of Halo itself?
I reported the camera res change issues quite awhile ago to hardslog, though I think at that point you had stopped development on the A100. I remember him saying he would look into a fix and I think awhile after he cured it. Can't remember if he listed on here what the actual cause of the problem is though.
This potential to customize how this ROM behaves is absolutely incredible. I spent the last couple of hours messing about with swipe bars and pop up menus and the various combinations possible... it really is clever stuff. Was rather confusing to figure out what is what at first. I've still not found a way to change the button size on the pie... any additional buttons added get squashed up at one end of it. Is there anywhere in the menu where this can be altered? Also, directly surrounding the pie buttons there is a thick bar which is partially blue... looks like a volume slider or something but I can't seem to get it to do anything??
All in all a very interesting ROM thank you Pio. Given that it is early days on 4.2.2 for the A100, do you think there is any chance that the MIC will be fixable in the future? Does it work ok on your Thrive?
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Well as I said unless it was reported (to me) I wouldn't have known. Hardslog wasn't reporting issues or fixes to me so I never knew it happened or how it was fixed.
The mic should be fixable, and yes it works on the thrive, so its likely a minor routing issue on the vangogh vs Antares or Picasso boards. Sound is my weakest point though, I always have troubles with it for some reason.
As for pie, there's options for all kinda shiz in there, just gotta go through them all and restart systemui to make them active in some cases. That bar is, I think, just decoration, though.
Sad thing is I don't really use the camera features on the A100 so that's probably why I never tested them when going thru stuff on the recent CM10 builds. But yes I am getting the same issues MrCubbins has reported with changing resolutions FCing the camera app on this current CarbonROM build.
The only thing I am hoping for down the road is some kind of updated version Linuxsociety's Jelly Bean kernel that works on 4.2.2. I'm pretty sure the current build will not work on 4.2.2 ROMs due to there being enough differences between 4.1.x and 4.2.2. Love how that kernel worked in making things run just a bit smoother. :good:
AngryManMLS said:
Sad thing is I don't really use the camera features on the A100 so that's probably why I never tested them when going thru stuff on the recent CM10 builds. But yes I am getting the same issues MrCubbins has reported with changing resolutions FCing the camera app on this current CarbonROM build.
The only thing I am hoping for down the road is some kind of updated version Linuxsociety's Jelly Bean kernel that works on 4.2.2. I'm pretty sure the current build will not work on 4.2.2 ROMs due to there being enough differences between 4.1.x and 4.2.2. Love how that kernel worked in making things run just a bit smoother. :good:
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I'm just curious why anyone
A: uses the crappy camera on these things for anything but Skype
B: bothers changing the resolution of the already low resolution cameras
The kernel included is already modified just hasn't had the juice turned on yet. I'm not a fan of his kernel for my personal device, it never got along with it. If you venture into its settings you'll notice it has some extras in governors and io, no longer stock CM.
Yeah I'm not really much of a fan of cams on tablets myself. Yet I've seen people using their tablets for taking pictures so what do I (and you) know, right?
I wasn't aware of what was going on with the kernel that you have in use. The Linuxsociety kernel or at least the one that was in hardslog's ROMs ran very well on mine. That's using Linuxsociety's kernel with mods done wasn't it? Then again we all know that you probably can have two A100's next to each other one will run the kernel perfectly yet the other one will have issues with it... so yeah.
AngryManMLS said:
Yeah I'm not really much of a fan of cams on tablets myself. Yet I've seen people using their tablets for taking pictures so what do I (and you) know, right?
I wasn't aware of what was going on with the kernel that you have in use. The Linuxsociety kernel or at least the one that was in hardslog's ROMs ran very well on mine. That's using Linuxsociety's kernel with mods done wasn't it? Then again we all know that you probably can have two A100's next to each other one will run the kernel perfectly yet the other one will have issues with it... so yeah.
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I think he used ezterrys kernel, why he chose to over the godmachine kernel you'll need to ask him about lol. It was a nice kernel for sure, but my a100 just didn't like it. My thrive kernels love mine but hate some others, such is electronics I guess.
I'm still testing the kernel for when the juice is turned on so its a pretty basic kernel otherwise, bit it should wake up real nice when its let loose.
Looking over the notes from several of hardslog's ROMs he's mentioned they have used godmachine kernels (or as I mistakenly called them "Linuxsociety"). No idea on the latest ROM that he's released since there's no mention. Let me know if you need to me to test any kernels here. My A100 is ready.
Well the kernel has some odd issues, for one lulzactive seems to just stay at top speed, it doesn't seem to scale at all. In the overclock enabled builds anychanges to min/max speeds will result in no deep sleep, the kernel stays awake at all times. Not sure whats causing either of those, lulzactive can be gone over but why the speed change locks the system awake I have no clue.
I really wish I knew what I was doing with kernels lol
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Vote, who thinks I should just update the linux society/god machine kernel to 4.2 and leave it at that? lol
I was totally not aware about the deep sleep issue since I normally turn the tablet off when it's not in use. Does the ezterry kernel have the same issue? If not then maybe updating that to 4.2 might be better in the long run. As far as scaling I never seemed to have the issue at least from what SetCPU shows me. I'm about to go to my CYANOSAKI_FLEX_V2.0 backup and will let you know what I'm seeing as that I believe is using a godmachine kernel.
Also just noticed something weird. When I tried to backup the current CarbonROM build using TWRP 2.6.0.0 it shows 0MB in cache is used. Could there be something wrong with the routing/paths/etc on cache use on CarbonROM?
AngryManMLS said:
I was totally not aware about the deep sleep issue since I normally turn the tablet off when it's not in use. Does the ezterry kernel have the same issue? If not then maybe updating that to 4.2 might be better in the long run. As far as scaling I never seemed to have the issue at least from what SetCPU shows me. I'm about to go to my CYANOSAKI_FLEX_V2.0 backup and will let you know what I'm seeing as that I believe is using a godmachine kernel.
Also just noticed something weird. When I tried to backup the current CarbonROM build using TWRP 2.6.0.0 it shows 0MB in cache is used. Could there be something wrong with the routing/paths/etc on cache use on CarbonROM?
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The deep sleep issues are only on the overclock enabled kernel that I use, it shouldn't appear in the released build, it only shows up if min/max speeds are changed from stock. Scaling issues appear only in lulzactive, its defaulted to interactive so unless you change it, its scaling properly.
I'm not using the ezterry or god machine kernels, so its a problem unique to mine I think.
It uses cache or it wouldn't be booting at all, and you shouldn't back that up anyways I think twrp has some bugs no one ironed out and its causing oddness with older devices.
Oops. I thought you meant godmachine's kernel had those issues. My bad. I should read better next time. :laugh:
Also checking CYANOSAKI_FLEX_V2.0 the kernel it's using believe it or not is by ezterry. SetCPU defaults to interactive on this for me as well running at 1.5 ghz max speed, 312 mhz minimum. No idea if hardslog has done any mods/changes to the kernel however. Run perfectly fine on my A100. :good:
And you are right about cache let alone the TWRP bug. Just finished wiping and restoring my CarbonROM backup by the way. Successful swapping from 4.2.2 to 4.1.2 and back via TWRP backups.
Ugh I hate kernels, and I hate working IN them even more. But, it's coming along. It'll basically be the GM kernel all over again when I'm done lol.
So far vs the source I began with:
GPU/CPU/system speeds are tuned a little more, voltages tuned a little more
Adding in those missing governors, like Smartass and lagfree.
Converted/updated to BCMDHD from BCM4329
OC up to 1.5, UC to 216
I'm building this to include with my 4.2 builds, and I suppose I could just release a flashable version, it may even work on 4.1, who knows.