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[GPL][ROM] 2010-08-20 FroydVillain 1.3.0 "villainrom.co.uk, I knew thee well..."

[GPL][ROM] 2010-08-20 FroydVillain 1.3.0 "villainrom.co.uk, I knew thee well..."
Quick Update for FV 1.3.1
Ok guys I can confirm the Tethering FC issue is fixed and working.
GPS is ok so far, fresh boot, launched GPS Status and it was almost instantly aware of 10 sats. Bear in mind this is indoors. Took a minute or two to get a lock where it locked 8 sats out of 11, with a 16 metre margin for error.
I'm going to keep testing this and leave the phone running stuff overnight with logcat running in case there's any weird issues.
FroydVillain 1.3.2 will hit some time tomorrow.
Thanks for your patience, sorry about the lame duck release. I'm off to flog myself silly with spaghetti. If you don't think that's harsh, you've never eaten my grandmother's spaghetti.
KNOWN ISSUES - FroydVillain 1.3.1 - KNOWN ISSUES
Selecting Tethering from Wireless menu causes an FC. - FIXED in 1.3.2
GPS -still- having some issues. - HOPEFULLY FIXED in 1.3.2, still testing.
FroydVillain 1.3.2 will hit either later today or tomorrow folks. It will be another full ROM, I couldn't avoid it sadly. Someone upstream of me decided it'd be a good idea to stop librpc being built against libgps which is the root of a lot of the GPS problems (not all the problems, there were others that have been fixed as well).
So keep those backups current. I'll be adhering to the poll and putting my preferred liblights back in place as well folks. Thanks for voting.
FroydVillain 1.3.0 "villainrom.co.uk, I knew thee well..."
Code:
*fzzzt* Hello??
...
Code:
Where is everybody? Where is everything?
...
Code:
Why is no one downloading me?
Code:
Here I am, all dressed up, nowhere to be posted...
Ah the life of the poor ROM. It can be as awesome as the very latest batch of AwesomeSauce (tm) but without a home it may as well just be a kanged knock off that nobody wants.
*Dusts off hands* Well I guess we should explain the delay in release and what the hell happened to villainrom.co.uk.
Aliens. That's right, aliens. Since I cannot fathom any other reason that a whole site hosting cluster would fall over in a giant crumpled heap and take every single backup with it that isn't older than dirt, my only explanation is, aliens.
It would appear they blitzed through the datacentre with an EMP larger than the battery on Jeremy Goh's phone* and took out everything. Now our server is back however it's suffering a rather serious bout of amnesia. It knows not of England's dismal display at the world cup**, it doesn't even know I've joined the Villain team yet. It appears to be only dimly aware of FroydVillain in that it feels it might be "coming soon".
* Jeremy Goh and his (semi) portable power station powered Hero:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
** Ah if only an EMP worked on me. Sigh.
Right before we go into what's included and what's new, let's get the thanks out of the way.
Thanks to:
CyanogenMod team for keeping a step ahead of the original AOSP tree.
Alankila for his usual contributions (DSPManager/CPUSpeed).
Mikebeecham for the awesome artwork and wallpapers.
mpgrimes for his awesome wallpaper contributions.
markitoxs for helping me flesh out the wallpaper collection with some nice photos/abstract art.
Everyone who saw fit to donate recently, your generosity is greatly recognised, appreciated but never required.
Everyone who whined about issues in the last releases. I only fix stuff to make you shut the hell up yanno.
All the folks on IRC who downloaded the pre release and helped to test.
Alex24 for all his work with theming, thanks to him we'll be able to have themes good to go with each release really soon.
NikuelTrasgu for the original bootanimation and Alex24 for adding in the loading part.
My family, my friends, who all contributed to me receiving this prestig.....oh oops wrong speech.
SO what's new in 1.3.0? How can I possibly top 1.2.1? How can I justify making you all wipe your phones again?
Well it turns out 1.2.1 can easily be topped just by making GPS work properly. OH oh...there we go, 1.2.1 topped, GPS works properly.
GPS working correctly in this release without random reboots.
This had better be well received because I ran 15 individual tests of a fresh boot, get a lock on and then rebooting to test first boot lock ons. 15 out of 15 locked on with the usual varying lock on times with no random "GAARRGH" from the phone as it committed suicide.
That's right, we've eliminated the Emo factor of FroydVillain 1.2.x. Emos just don't have what it takes to help you navigate yourself around accurately. Too much effort you see. So we've given it a haircut, spruced up the clothes, washed all the make up off and given it a good stern kick in the arse with a smidgen of framework fixes to turn it into a fully functional member of the navigation society. Hurrah.
Wired Tethering works AT LAST.
Leave it to HTC to make a kernel that's about as future proof as a car made entirely out of tissue paper. From now on HTC kernel "devs" will be permanently thought of by me as evil and mad Jaffar types (Google Disney's Aladdin) with a child's chemistry set bubbling and frothing around them as they set about scuppering any possibly future useful feature just to make us buy newer phones because we can't get Froyo to work properly. Well screw you HTC! Muhahahaha.
Erm, where was I? Oh yeah. Wired tethering works from the Wireless & networks menu. You'll still need an app for the wireless tethering though since the wifi drivers don't support the Froyo method. Yet.
New wallpaper collection.
You can tell I've had extra time on my hands when I start putting things in that people have complained about since FroydVillain 1.0.0 that I consider incredibly low priority. We've brought back the original wallpapers that Nathan put in place and then some. If anyone dares complain about not liking one or all of them I will find out where you live and pay a visit with a TENS machine with the name of your testicles on it.
CMParts makes a return with a different face.
As the changelog for my fork of CMParts states, I've carried out a "Shameful SHAMEFUL rebranding for the Villain project". In the menu it's there as Villain Settings. This satisfies my want for aesthetics and your want of having features from other ROMs all in one ROM. Well maybe not the last part but you've at least got a tool that lets you play around with things you don't understand. Incidentally compcache isn't included in any Froyd release and never will be, so that option will continue to have no effect. It's also worth noting the Battery Percentage setting works with themes too. Hooray.
Japanese keyboard support.
Enough said really. OpenWNN keyboard is included. Pinyin would have been too, however it sucks goats and insists on being the default keyboard and promptly crashing. This is being worked on but for now anyone wanting this keyboard will have to grab it from the market.
More kernels.
The USB tethering fix was a kernel patch so with that and another few minor bug fixes a new batch of Nindroid 2.2 kernels are available. The included in ROM kernel is already up to date. You're welcome.
Better sleep states.
This kernel allows for a deeper sleep when idle not just when the phone is suspended. It should provide a bit of a boost to battery life.
ADW Launcher included alongside LauncherPro.
Since there are weirdos out there who don't consider LauncherPro to be the best launcher since before LauncherPro was invented, you can use ADW. No I will not include more launchers in the future. Two and that's your lot. If you want more ask Santa Claus. Or go to the Market. You might get more luck with the latter. Usually.
Vlingo included.
I don't want to hear whines about including apps people are just going to remove. If you decide to remove Vlingo you might as well remove yourself from the genepool too. Vlingo is awesome. It is awesomely awesome. Vlingo is so awesome I have to brace myself just prior to launching the app. It makes Google's voice recognition look like a partially deaf guy with a hearing aid being affected by radiation from Jeremy Goh's battery semi portable power station.
Themed HTC IME mod.
If you don't like it delete HTC_IME_themed.apk from /system and push the original HTC IME mod. Or theme your own. I don't care. Called it developer's privelage, I included a keyboard that I think looks sweet. It's worth noting that voice input works on this version.
WaveSecure included.
Anyone who doesn't use/like it feel free to delete it but for people with a WaveSecure account it's much better to have it loaded in /system/app. So it is. Yay.
Notification lights improved.
They're still not perfect but the battery LED flashes now for notifications. I personally preferred the 1.2.1 method of jogball for everything and LED for battery. Apparently you lot didn't.
The only bugs I've really noticed with it, is it'll often flash both the LED and the trackball as if it's just detected a nuclear attack. The other bug is if you boot with USB connected and then disconnect USB the LED turns red. This goes away at some point, but I can't remember if it's replugging the USB that makes it go away or a notification turns up while off power. But yeah, thems the breaks.
"OK NINPO ENOUGH YAPPING WHERE THE HELL IS MY DOWNLOAD LINK??"
Ok, ok. Here they are:
FroydVillain 1.3.0
Kernels:
19-614 MHz (default)
19-652 MHz
19-691 MHz
19-729 MHz
19-748 MHz
19-768 MHz
Remember kids, you'll need a full wipe for this one.
Anyone caught flashing an overclock kernel then coming to IRC bleating their phone doesn't start, will be extremely ridiculed.

ignore my stupidity in reading simple english....Thanks for this!!

w00t! I just saw this! Downloading now!

Full wipe? Really?!
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

Yeah, full wipe as it's a new base, and new frameworks.

Oh my God.you really made my day..thanks villain team.
Sent from my HTC Hero using Tapatalk

orangeclanz said:
Oh my God.you really made my day..thanks villain team.
Sent from my HTC Hero using Tapatalk
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LOL. I am sure Ninpo is glad to make your day for you
And ninpo, nice work on the release notes mate

Woot, finally!

VillainRom LIVES!!!
Whoop! DLing NOW!

Wired Tethering works AT LAST.
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it worked for me on 1.2.1, just had to use the hndis driver

pulser_g2 said:
Yeah, full wipe as it's a new base, and new frameworks.
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Oh,so I have to port my themes from 1.2.2 to 1.3.0 again!
But big Thanks for this great ROM.
Downloading now,too

Is USB-tether the same RNDIS solution as in sense roms? (I.e it doesnt work with OS X?)

Removing ADW launcher
Hi
First of all, thanks for the great VillainROM releases, especially FroydVillain.
Just installed 1.3.0, and just to be sure:
To remove ADW Launcher, I just do an adb shell, go to /system/app and remove ADWLauncher.apk?
Edit:
And same approach with the WaveSecure?

Json_81 said:
Is USB-tether the same RNDIS solution as in sense roms? (I.e it doesnt work with OS X?)
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Well it works with Linux so I can't imagine it not working with OS X unless it really is that big a pile of...oh wait, it's Apple.
rd-Target said:
Hi
First of all, thanks for the great VillainROM releases, especially FroydVillain.
Just installed 1.3.0, and just to be sure:
To remove ADW Launcher, I just do an adb shell, go to /system/app and remove ADWLauncher.apk?
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Aye.

It's 2.00am and I was about to sleep. But once I found out there's update, now am sitting in front of the computer , backup everything , downloading the rom , thou tomorrow morning have to go church .
Thanks for the new rom !!!

Ganii said:
Oh,so I have to port my themes from 1.2.2 to 1.3.0 again!
But big Thanks for this great ROM.
Downloading now,too
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I hope you port your themes. They complete my villainrom!

Yeah guys!!! You are more awesomely than awesome!! LOL!!! Nimpo you are still my favourite comedian...
THANKS A LOT!!!!

Villain team smashing it up once again. Thank you, will definitely be giving this a try later. Is this likely to cure my OCfD?
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

Hey Ninpo I really really wish to do two things right now.
Firstly to Kick your ass for the funniest release notes and secondly to Kiss your damn ass for the nice work on the most stable and smooth Froyo Roms for Hero. Definitely worth praise, great work and great effort.

rd-Target said:
Hi
First of all, thanks for the great VillainROM releases, especially FroydVillain.
Just installed 1.3.0, and just to be sure:
To remove ADW Launcher, I just do an adb shell, go to /system/app and remove ADWLauncher.apk?
Edit:
And same approach with the WaveSecure?
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Root explorer can remove the ADW.
Sent from my HTC Hero using Tapatalk

[GPL][ROM] 2010-09-04 FroydVillain 1.5.0 "So fast it waits for YOU to boot."

[GPL][ROM] 2010-09-04 FroydVillain 1.5.0 "So fast it waits for YOU to boot."
FroydVillain 1.5.0
The Hero is Alive and Kicking.
Now that HTC let it die and laid it to rest, it's gonna to go to the place that's best, now they've laid it down to die, it's moving on up to Team Villain, make it fly. (Ugh that was terrible. Leaving it in anyway.)
So here we are. The end. Almost. The -real- end is yet to come in the shape of FroydVillain 2.0. However given the release cycles you've become accustomed to, this may as well be the end.
FroydVillain 1.5. What a journey it's been. We've been through some hell haven't we? GPS not working, random reboots, etc. Epic battles with dalvik and battery life. We've had everything.
Or have we?
Well 1.5 says no.
In 1.4.x dalvik had ~30 arm optimisations. 1.5 has over 200. BOY can you tell.
Yep. While dalvik was still on the ropes wondering wtf just happened I slammed it with several body blows before delivering the final uppercut of YOU WILL PLAY NICE ON THE HERO. For an encore I moved on to the OpenGL libraries that were on the sidelines pointing and laughing at dalvik and gave them a good one-two of optimisation for good measure. They suddenly didn't see the funny side of dalvik getting its ass kicked.
Man these are weak release notes. This is what happens when you lot demand great posts every release and I'm releasing roughly once a week. Those guys that do it week in week out for TV must be on some sort of drug. I want some of it.
Oh that reminds me. I've themed FroydVillain 1.5. If you're the type that has a hard on for that ****ing ghastly vanilla AOSP interface then you're in for a disappointment. I might consider pushing the ugly into the OTA app as a theme at some point but that's not going to be tonight. Something was really bugging me about the finished FroydVillain article and it struck me; it's ****ing ugly.
Here is the link to the Vanilla theme
I consider the AOSP interface to be so ugly it looks like it was set on fire and put out with a baseball bat covered in pig ****. It's terrible. Using it, my good eye often threatens to go the way of my left eye and just **** off on a long vacation. God I hope Google sort this **** out for Android 3.0 I really do. As it stands right now, the vanilla interface is about as attractive as the fat spotty ***** with a purse full of alcohol money at the school disco, ready to get anything with a penis drunk as hell just to get lucky.
Android, there isn't enough money in the world, believe me.
Changes? YOU WANT CHANGES? Well here's the changes.
GPS. DOES. WORK. THIS. TIME.
It was supposed to work last time, and the time before that. Probably the time before that too. Thankfully Cyanogen himself realised the missing piece to the puzzle and fixed the entire APNs list. Hats off to him, I had a feeling the problem was there and I certainly couldn't be arsed with it. Do you lot have -any- idea how many telco APNs there are? A LOT that's how many. There's more APNs in Android than George Dubya Bush has stupid. That's a -lot-.
So yeah. Just in case you were somehow missed, if you have GPS trouble, edit your APN and set APN type to default,supl. That'll give GPS the kick in the nuts it needs. Or stop living in whatever backward ass country you're living in and go somewhere that has real mobile/data.
Speaking of retards (I know we weren't) it's been really bugging me lately how easy it is for ROM "developers" to pull wool over people's eyes. You lot are a trusting bunch, which is endearing but unfortunately that seems to be abused.
FOR EXAMPLE. A "developer" who shall remain unamed (mostly due to forum rules) recently said they don't like my implementation of the interactive governor due to the number of kernels. THEY THEN went on to say that such "strange code" can fry your hardware which is why he won't entertain it.
Ok apart from the mindnumbing dumb that statement contains, that's not particularly funny, right? Well it gets funnier when this same "I won't put out any code that could break your hardware" champion goes ahead and releases a kernel for the Hero that can clock up to 922MHz. Bahahaha. No, I'm serious.
Phones are the same as anything else folks. Always take anything you read with a pinch of salt, even from me. Just because some ROM "developers" have an IQ smaller than the number of hydrogen atoms in a water molecule doesn't mean you have to.
Woops, I'm rambling, on to the next change.
Wifi no longer gets its **** pushed in trying to do complicated things like "browse the internet".
Well we've fixed that too. FroydVillain 1.5 has support for a proxy over wifi only this time it doesn't get all confused over the difficulty of telling the difference between a 3g proxy and a wifi proxy. Happy days.
Support for Conservative governor when screen off.
CPUSpeed now lets you set a different governor when the screen is off. I highly recommend using interactive (or on demand if on the 576MHz kernel) with screen on, and Conservative with screen off. Great for battery life.
Carrier name now shows on the lockscreen and notification bar.
A small fix but as always it seems to be the small things that generate the most noise. That's when you can tell you have a good ROM, people complain about the most inane s**t on the planet, like complaining they can't see their carrier name on almost every screen they need to navigate. You know, in case they forget who it is they pay their money to.
Dalvik.
I know I covered it earlier but this is so awesome it deserves covering again. Dalvik and JIT now function with -full- cpu assembler optimisations. While this doesn't translate hugely over into benchmarks, it does make a massive difference to the overall user experience. Things load faster, there's a more "snappy" feel, dalvik takes up less memory, etc etc. It's both fantastic and disgusting. Fantastic that we can enjoy it, disgusting that both Google and HTC left us with some half arsed build of Android and left it at that. Bastards. Ninpo 2, Dalvik 0.
The kernel.
While technically separate, I need to cover changes in the kernel. Battery life -will- be ever so slightly worse than in 1.4, however more stability comes as a result. I also remembered that HTC half arsed bringing 2.6.29 to its most up to date version, so that's taken care of. I've also merged some 2.6.3x scheduling fixes in as well because I was bored between awesome moments, so I added a whole other awesome moment just for good measure.
Lights
At long last. They work properly. Well done Revoked.
Alright, I've flogged this long enough. Here's your download links.
FroydVillain 1.5.0
Kernels:
576MHz with boot animation.
576MHz without boot animation.
614MHz with boot animation.
614MHz without boot animation.
652MHz with boot animation.
652MHz without boot animation.
691MHz with boot animation.
691MHz without boot animation.
729MHz with boot animation.
729MHz without boot animation.
748MHz with boot animation.
748MHz without boot animation.
768MHz with boot animation.
768MHz without boot animation.
WITHOUT BOOT ANIMATION MEANS YOU WILL GET NO BOOT ANIMATION. Stating the obvious right? You'd think so, but no, a fair few people who would enter a battle of wits totally unarmed didn't realise they wouldn't get a boot animation with a no boot animation kernel. The s**t I put up with for you lot, seriously.
Failing any major catastrophes requiring some OTA action, this is your lot for a while. It's been great working on FroydVillain and having you all report back on the various and drastic changes I've made. However I need a break from this more than Tom Cruise needs stilts. Besides this ROM should be stable for you all leaving me time to work on other projects, including FroydVillain 2.0, the 2.6.34 kernel and of course developing for the Nexus.
THIS SHOULD WORK WITHOUT A WIPE. However, everyone's phone/setup is different, so if you run into problems, WIPE FIRST and if overclocking TRY A SLOWER KERNEL.
Thank you all for keeping me interested and re-igniting my development hunger. Rest assured I am not done, not by a long shot, but you need a stable ROM to play with so I can work on even better **** for you in the background.
Thanks to:
Everyone remotely involved.
Special thanks to:
My IRC minions for testing the various pre releases and telling me about my f**k ups despite fear of death and banning.
CyanogenMod project. They still taken the sting out of managing an AOSP tree.
Kernelzilla. You're just far too clever dude, thanks for everything.
Revoked for being my C/java *****.
All the people I gave special thanks to before.
Ninpo, giving you a last f*** you all for a while. F*** you all. <3
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Downoading. Will have a try. Thanks.

downloading now, BIG THANKS for everything!

Downloading.... now.....
Tks a lot Hacre =)

God, I love your release notes

Will download this soon, thanks for the good work you do!

thanks villainrom teams! Great works.

Boy, was I waiting for this moment !
Thanks for Your hard work !
Regards
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

Wow, you work fast. Thanks a lot, looking forward to flashing.
Q: How do you remove system apps?
On 4.x I was trying to update my Launcher pro to LP Plus and I couldn't do it??
Thanks again

Marcehh said:
Wow, you work fast. Thanks a lot, looking forward to flashing.
Q: How do you remove system apps?
On 4.x I was trying to update my Launcher pro to LP Plus and I couldn't do it??
Thanks again
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For LauncherPro just input your key. The option to do so should be in menu -> preferences, or you should find it when you try to add a widget.
However to remove apps in /system, do:
adb remount
adb shell rm -f /system/app/APKNAME.apk
Remember to replace APKNAME with the actual file name. File names are case sensitive.
adb is part of the Android SDK pack.

downloading now!
hell what else can you do at 4.30 in the morning!!!!
cheers Hacre

Thanks for the great work, it also looks awesome!!! :-D

The deal breaker for me with 1.4.x was GPS. Flashed 1.5, first thing to do was firing up GPS status... and wohooo... locked within seconds.
Kudos VillainTeam!

enyeng said:
The deal breaker for me with 1.4.x was GPS. Flashed 1.5, first thing to do was firing up GPS status... and wohooo... locked within seconds.
Kudos VillainTeam!
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Yeah there were some APNs not configured correctly in the old apns-conf.xml which screwed those affected when it came to GPS. Cyanogen has provided a better/cleaner obviously 110% more fixed than it's ever been before APN list which is included in FV1.5.

just about time. finally. thanks hacre

downloading now.
I love reading your release notes
HUGE thanks for everything TeamVillain, you guys ROCK!
BTW, the galaxy theme is the default theme in the ROM? love it.

zeldabb said:
downloading now.
I love reading your release notes
HUGE thanks for everything TeamVillain, you guys ROCK!
BTW, the galaxy theme is the default theme in the ROM? love it.
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Slightly modded Galaxy. I'll get the original ugly in the OTA app as a theme tomorrow or Sunday.

Thanks a lot ! Just the first time, all widget don't work, so easy, just remove them from the screen, and put them back and everything work.
Thanks a lot for this new update.

regisprigent said:
Thanks a lot ! Just the first time, all widget don't work, so easy, just remove them from the screen, and put them back and everything work.
Thanks a lot for this new update.
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it's works for me here

Hacre said:
Yeah there were some APNs not configured correctly in the old apns-conf.xml which screwed those affected when it came to GPS. Cyanogen has provided a better/cleaner obviously 110% more fixed than it's ever been before APN list which is included in FV1.5.
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Thanks for the info.
It makes me wondering, if GPS fix depends on the APN configuration, would APN toggle widgets which work by modifying the APN name entry will have decremental effect in achieving GPS fix?
* also in the (very unlikely ) event that I ended up in someplace remote without cell signal, how is my chance to get a GPS fix? *

[Q] Best ROM / Kernal - DInc

Hello XDA,
I'm swapping out my BlackBerry Storm2 today, for an HTC Incredible.
I have been lurking around on Droid forums for a few weeks now, especially here.
I want to put CM6 on my DInc, but I have a lot of people telling me it's really buggy.
Which is the best ROM out right now? The least buggiest, preferably.
Also, which Kernal works best with which ROM?
Sorry for the seemingly stupid questions.
Thanks in advance!
Edit:
One more thing I don't quite fully understand. Do some themes only work with some ROM's?

Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.

I use Virtuous 2.7 Power Saving as well and absolutely love it.
I added the SexyRosieBrowser Mod and Rotary Lockscreen Mod and deleted a lot of the bloatware and widgets I never used from HTC and Verizon.
I also added the EVO Camera
It's pretty much the best of BOTH worlds... a mix mash of Vanilla and Sense UI!!!
very stable and only a few minor bugs that aren't that big of deal.

khanam said:
Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.
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PhillyCheez said:
I use Virtuous 2.7 Power Saving as well and absolutely love it.
I added the SexyRosieBrowser Mod and Rotary Lockscreen Mod and deleted a lot of the bloatware and widgets I never used from HTC and Verizon.
I also added the EVO Camera
It's pretty much the best of BOTH worlds... a mix mash of Vanilla and Sense UI!!!
very stable and only a few minor bugs that aren't that big of deal.
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Thanks for the quick replies guys,
I will definitely be trying Virtous out before anything else.
Some people told me CM6 was great but it was made with a heavy code. So i'm guessing it's buggy and slow at times?
It's just weird coming from a BlackBerry device that all you can do is throw on some Hybrids and .cod files :/
@PhillyCheese What are the benefits of the EVO camera? What does the SexyRosie mod do?

ogkhaze said:
I will definitely be trying Virtous out before anything else.
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Definitely recommended. Virtuous is the most stable ROM I've used on my Inc so far. Cyanogen and Ruby both do this random reboot thing on my phone -- I haven't tried any other AOSP-based ROMs.
Some people told me CM6 was great but it was made with a heavy code. So i'm guessing it's buggy and slow at times?
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I don't think it's "heavy" per se, but it has far more mods to the AOSP base than Ruby does. That also doesn't mean it's more or less buggy than other ROMs either.
What are the benefits of the EVO camera? What does the SexyRosie mod do?
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The Evo camera app has an onscreen shutter button. At least, that's the only significant difference I can find.

ardax said:
Definitely recommended. Virtuous is the most stable ROM I've used on my Inc so far. Cyanogen and Ruby both do this random reboot thing on my phone -- I haven't tried any other AOSP-based ROMs.
I don't think it's "heavy" per se, but it has far more mods to the AOSP base than Ruby does. That also doesn't mean it's more or less buggy than other ROMs either.
The Evo camera app has an onscreen shutter button. At least, that's the only significant difference I can find.
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Awesome thanks for the tip man.
So when I get the Incredible today it probably won't be running Froyo right off the bat, correct? Should I update it right away?
Also, does using ROM Manager reduce the risk of bricking your phone? That's the only thing I'm scared of.

Based off of your recommendations I'm going to give Virtuous a try for the first time. Got it queued up in ROM Manager as we speak, let the fun begin!

Actually, it probably will be running Froyo already.
Personally, I'd spend the first few days running the phone as stock as possible to make sure there's no weird hardware problems. Once that's out of the way, root (Unrevoked 3) + NAND unlock (Unrevoked Forever) + stock backup.
After that, it's all up to you.
2 other tips that bit me in the ass at first:
1. HTC's People app (contacts) has a distinction between "Google Contacts" and "Phone Contacts". Only "Google" contacts are synchronized to the Google Account linked to your phone. It sounds obvious in retrospect, but the first time I entered all my contacts they went in as "Phone" contacts by default. That made for a nasty surprise the first time I wiped my phone.
2. There was some extreme weirdness with synchronization between People and my Google Contacts online. The only way I ended up with all my contacts showing up in People (and the Dialer) correctly was to make sure they were entered into the "My Contacts" group in Google Contacts. Those warts seem to have been ironed out with Froyo though. It's still probably significantly easier to enter your contacts online though than through your phone, particularly if you dump a CSV from your Blackberry first.

ardax said:
Actually, it probably will be running Froyo already.
Personally, I'd spend the first few days running the phone as stock as possible to make sure there's no weird hardware problems. Once that's out of the way, root (Unrevoked 3) + NAND unlock (Unrevoked Forever) + stock backup.
After that, it's all up to you.
2 other tips that bit me in the ass at first:
1. HTC's People app (contacts) has a distinction between "Google Contacts" and "Phone Contacts". Only "Google" contacts are synchronized to the Google Account linked to your phone. It sounds obvious in retrospect, but the first time I entered all my contacts they went in as "Phone" contacts by default. That made for a nasty surprise the first time I wiped my phone.
2. There was some extreme weirdness with synchronization between People and my Google Contacts online. The only way I ended up with all my contacts showing up in People (and the Dialer) correctly was to make sure they were entered into the "My Contacts" group in Google Contacts. Those warts seem to have been ironed out with Froyo though. It's still probably significantly easier to enter your contacts online though than through your phone, particularly if you dump a CSV from your Blackberry first.
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Thanks a ton man, unrevoked took his tool down, i've been checking back to see when it'll go back up.
Thank you for telling me about the contacts as well.

I recommend spending time on stock froyo non-rooted for at least a month.
You will have much more wisdom when moving to a new ROM because you will know what you like and don't like, want to add, want to remove...etc.
ALSO, it will give you enough time to find out if your incredible is defected! i thought i had a defected one cause i was having speaker issues but a nice hard reset did the trick. you will also know how your phone SHOULD work.
SexyRosieMod gets rid of the ugly sense ui at the bottom of the phone and replaces it with what you would find on vanilla android.
So far the only difference (but a very nice difference) in the EVO Camera is the adding of a shutter button on the screen. i hated having to long press the screen or use the track pad to take a picture.
I tried CM6.... it was nice and there are a few things i enjoy about it but there were things in sense ui that i just couldn't live with out. Also, CM6 was definitely buggy. I do miss being able to change the color of the android sleep clock, the power widget and the awesome wallpapers he included.
As far as Contacts go... I was lucky enough to have them backed up on Verizon already. But if you are a ROM switcher you want them backed up to your google account. I was lucky enough to figure out that i was able to import my verizon contacts as a .csv file straight into my google contacts.

ogkhaze said:
Thanks a ton man, unrevoked took his tool down, i've been checking back to see when it'll go back up.
Thank you for telling me about the contacts as well.
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if you go to that page and click the IRC channel you can easily download it in there at the top.

PhillyCheez said:
I recommend spending time on stock froyo non-rooted for at least a month.
You will have much more wisdom when moving to a new ROM because you will know what you like and don't like, want to add, want to remove...etc.
ALSO, it will give you enough time to find out if your incredible is defected! i thought i had a defected one cause i was having speaker issues but a nice hard reset did the trick. you will also know how your phone SHOULD work.
SexyRosieMod gets rid of the ugly sense ui at the bottom of the phone and replaces it with what you would find on vanilla android.
So far the only difference (but a very nice difference) in the EVO Camera is the adding of a shutter button on the screen. i hated having to long press the screen or use the track pad to take a picture.
I tried CM6.... it was nice and there are a few things i enjoy about it but there were things in sense ui that i just couldn't live with out. Also, CM6 was definitely buggy. I do miss being able to change the color of the android sleep clock, the power widget and the awesome wallpapers he included.
As far as Contacts go... I was lucky enough to have them backed up on Verizon already. But if you are a ROM switcher you want them backed up to your google account. I was lucky enough to figure out that i was able to import my verizon contacts as a .csv file straight into my google contacts.
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if you go to that page and click the IRC channel you can easily download it in there at the top.
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Yeah I suppose I should probably run the phone stock as it is my first HTC device, and my first Droid device, coming from a BlackBerry.
So you go into their IRC site and then its the link they have at the top, it says not to distribute it so I'm not going to post the link here.
Edit: Yeah that's the link, going to get my DInc now, and play around with it!
Any other tips?

ogkhaze said:
Yeah I suppose I should probably run the phone stock as it is my first HTC device, and my first Droid device, coming from a BlackBerry.
So you go into their IRC site and then its the link they have at the top, it says not to distribute it so I'm not going to post the link here.
Edit: Yeah that's the link, going to get my DInc now, and play around with it!
Any other tips?
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I used that link before... reflash.exe
worked like a champ!
as far as tips...
read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739428
I used this guide quiet a bit...
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_HTC_Incredible
I never installed ADB before rooting nor did I mess with the radio (risk of bricking). your DInc should have the latest radio anyways.
Have fun and good luck!
enjoy stock froyo sense ui for awhile... seriously!

PhillyCheez said:
I used that link before... reflash.exe
worked like a champ!
as far as tips...
read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739428
I used this guide quiet a bit...
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_HTC_Incredible
I never installed ADB before rooting nor did I mess with the radio (risk of bricking). your DInc should have the latest radio anyways.
Have fun and good luck!
enjoy stock froyo sense ui for awhile... seriously!
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I will definitely spend some time on stock, maybe root it at least, but I will for sure get used to it, and get to know what I want changed.
Thanks again for all your tips man.

Hey,
I'm unrevoked forever.
I'm thrilled with the leaked Dinc 2.2 rom and hydrakernel.net v0.5 kernel (under volted,but same clock speed).
This will give you enjoyment of a stable rom with root.

khanam said:
Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.
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This ^
Just switched to the virtuous ROM 4 days ago from SkyRaider's 2.5.2 (never quite got 3.0/1 working to my liking) which taking nothing from the SkyRaider ROM, it was by far the most bug free, smoothest ROM I had used to date on my DInc. However, there is always a new shiny around the corner, and Virtuous is it for me. There are far better choices though if you want to strip your phone down to nothing and have none of the "wow-factor" features or visual effects installed, but generally thats restricted to the Linux diehards that still think we have to use a terminal to operate a PC. =) I keek i keed!

I have used Frankenrom (b6) and Virtuous (from 2.1 through 2.7) fairly thouroughly and had absolutely no problem with either of them. I tried ruby for a few hours a couple days ago and was really enthusiastic with how stripped down it was. The camera didn't seem to go up to the full resolution and I was getting tired so I flashed back to Viruous and went to sleep. I'd be willing to try Ruby again though. I'll probably be giving Redemption a try too in the near future.

slak? said:
I have used Frankenrom (b6) and Virtuous (from 2.1 through 2.7) fairly thouroughly and had absolutely no problem with either of them. I tried ruby for a few hours a couple days ago and was really enthusiastic with how stripped down it was. The camera didn't seem to go up to the full resolution and I was getting tired so I flashed back to Viruous and went to sleep. I'd be willing to try Ruby again though. I'll probably be giving Redemption a try too in the near future.
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Has anyone had any experience with Uncommon Sense or CM6?

I'm currently using Ruby 1.1.1 with adrynalyne's alternate kernel and have been very pleased. My previous rom was Virtuous... and I agree with what others have said, it is a great, stable, trimmed down rom that ran great.

I want my DInc to look like this:
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(Cyanogen Mod 6)
Is there anyway to get this look without using CM6?

Simple and Easy to Use ROM?

My mom has a HTC Desire and after using the phone for 7 months, she still doesn't know how to use her phone very well. Android is simply too advanced for her. So I come here asking, is there a ROM out there that is simple and easy to use? iPhone and iOS are very easy to use and everything is pretty straight forward. If there is no simple and easy to use ROM, what ROM do you guys suggest I install on her Desire? There are way too many ROMs for the HTC Desire compared to Samsung Captivate.

geokilla said:
My mom has a HTC Desire and after using the phone for 7 months, she still doesn't know how to use her phone very well. Android is simply too advanced for her. So I come here asking, is there a ROM out there that is simple and easy to use? iPhone and iOS are very easy to use and everything is pretty straight forward. If there is no simple and easy to use ROM, what ROM do you guys suggest I install on her Desire? There are way too many ROMs for the HTC Desire compared to Samsung Captivate.
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I personally don't see what's so complicated about Android, but on the off chance that Sense is confusing her, you might want to try an AOSP rom or CM. The Sense 2.1 / 3.0 ROMs add more features and so probably won't help your situation

There is nothing complicated about Android at all, especially when you have Sense. Sense makes it a lot easier anyway. Maybe try another Sense rom but that might not help. AOSP roms will be more complicated for your mum so try MIUI. MIUI looks like iOS so it might be a good way to go about it. But realistically, all smartphones are more or less the same as each other. There are just different layouts that's all.
I would think that you have tried to teach your mum before but that doesn't help. I would seem to think that she would get stuck in the notifications bar and the apps. If she understands them, then she understands Android.

Buy a Nokia lol
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Try this
But no realistically, you could try MIUI, it is a bit simpler to use.

Meaple said:
There is nothing complicated about Android at all, especially when you have Sense. Sense makes it a lot easier anyway. Maybe try another Sense rom but that might not help. AOSP roms will be more complicated for your mum so try MIUI. MIUI looks like iOS so it might be a good way to go about it. But realistically, all smartphones are more or less the same as each other. There are just different layouts that's all.
I would think that you have tried to teach your mum before but that doesn't help. I would seem to think that she would get stuck in the notifications bar and the apps. If she understands them, then she understands Android.
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I find Sense to be a lot more complicated than TouchWiz. It's a pain getting to the Phonebook, Messaging, etc. Maybe because I haven't used the phone that much, but as you said Android isn't really hard to use at all as they're all more or less the same.
I'm on the stock Telus ROM right now, so maybe Telus made things complicated and it's not Sense that's complicated to use. How is AOSP more complicated? I'll take a look at MIUI.
What Sense ROM would you recommend? There's so many to choose from.

I'm not sure how Telus set up their phones, but can't you just create the messages and contacts shortcut icons on the home screen?
Aosp isn't so much more complicated to use, it just has more options and flexibility. Its as easy to use as you want it to be, just don't access the extra settings. Just use what you want and leave everything else alone.
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It's always a question of what she is used to. If she had an iPhone before, of course android may be a bit confusing at first (maybe she should take a look at miui then).
But actually i also don't see what's complicated 'bout android.
I would propose to flash the latest stable CM release, since it is basic, stable and fast.
Then I would ask your mum, where the problems are exactly?
(f.e: She doesn't find her contacts? Put a widget on the homescreen!)
The good thing about android: you can customize it exactly the way you need it.

geokilla said:
I find Sense to be a lot more complicated than TouchWiz. It's a pain getting to the Phonebook, Messaging, etc. Maybe because I haven't used the phone that much, but as you said Android isn't really hard to use at all as they're all more or less the same.
I'm on the stock Telus ROM right now, so maybe Telus made things complicated and it's not Sense that's complicated to use. How is AOSP more complicated? I'll take a look at MIUI.
What Sense ROM would you recommend? There's so many to choose from.
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AOSP is fine to use, it's just like any other rom. It gets a little complicated when your trying to set a few things up. Like joining Facebook contacts to your contacts. That sort of thing. I've seen a lot of people ask around here in the past about these "complications".
I currently use AceSMod Lite. I did use the full stock version but it was slow due to my SD card being slow, I should say laggy a little. My advice is to just try them out and see which ones you like. Rom choosing is just trial and error.

Che123 said:
It's always a question of what she is used to. If she had an iPhone before, of course android may be a bit confusing at first (maybe she should take a look at miui then).
But actually i also don't see what's complicated 'bout android.
I would propose to flash the latest stable CM release, since it is basic, stable and fast.
Then I would ask your mum, where the problems are exactly?
(f.e: She doesn't find her contacts? Put a widget on the homescreen!)
The good thing about android: you can customize it exactly the way you need it.
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She used to have a LG Dare. Not iPhone.
She doesn't even use more than 10% of the phone features. Not once have I seen her use the Browser, GPS, etc. Only outbound and inbound calling, and sending text messages to us. That's it. Maybe she shouldn't have gotten a smartphone in the first place...

Long press on home screen then choose shortcuts>applications>contacts
Long press on home screen then choose shortcuts>applications>messages
Now you have quick one press access to her most used features
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Did you tell her what she can do on it? It might be worth talking to her and showing her how to use it.

Meaple said:
Did you tell her what she can do on it? It might be worth talking to her and showing her how to use it.
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Showed her numerous times. Advanced phones just aren't for her.
Everytime we go out for lunch on the weekends and she wants to check her e-mail, she asks me to do it for her. She can do it herself too but it takes her a long time sometimes. No she's not a senior.
Just today she called me while I was at work asking why there's a WiFi message on her phone lol.

I don't think you'll find a ROM to simplify things so maybe this isn't the phone for her, maybe consider buying another phone dude
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I was going to upgrade my mom's Desire yesterday to some sort of Gingerbread with Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM, but why is it so hard to upgrade compared to my Captivate? There's like 50 billion steps involved. My Captivate had only like 3 steps.
Btw are the Sense 3.0 ROMs stable?

How about Oxygen? Compared to others with a lot of menu for tweaks and whatnot. Oxygen is pretty basic.. and damn fast too.
Or try to get a phone not as complicated for your mom. It would be a waste to get a smartphone dumb down instead getting a not so smart phone being used easily and optimally.
Sent from my HTC Desire

CM7 vs. MIUI

Which is the best?

Most (including myself) will say it comes down to what you prefer. I prefer miui because of some of the built in features (launcher, t9 dialer, free themes, lockscreen opens directly to a new message, built in sms popup). Some hate miui cause of the iphone resemblance. I would just recommend you try them both. It's really impossible to say if one is better than the other because they are so different in appearance and features.

I prefer cm7. Miui is basically an iPhone clone, and if that was what I wanted, i would buy an iPhone.
Sent from my Incredible 2

Having spent time with both, and liking Miui, I've gone back to CM 7.
Miui is great for the customizing and has a lot of theme support out there, but the lack of the launcher with app drawer was a turn off (ended up using Adw) as well as the lockscreen was something I could never get to my liking.
I did like the popup Sms alot... The big reason why I switched, I go to the gym every morning and use my phone for an mp3 player...the last three days of using Miui, I kept getting freeze ups with the Miui music player. Could have been kernel related but I'm using the same kernel with CM 7 (tiamat) with no issues, but I'm also using Player Pro (which I could have used with Miui). I hadn't planned on staying with Cm 7, but after using it for the past week, I'm really happy with it now, and will continue to use at as my daily driver. I may flash Miui again to experiment though from time to time I do still keep a part of Miui in my phone though... I really like the Miui Camera app

PacerguyDon said:
Having spent time with both, and liking Miui, I've gone back to CM 7.
Miui is great for the customizing and has a lot of theme support out there, but the lack of the launcher with app drawer was a turn off (ended up using Adw) as well as the lockscreen was something I could never get to my liking.
I did like the popup Sms alot... The big reason why I switched, I go to the gym every morning and use my phone for an mp3 player...the last three days of using Miui, I kept getting freeze ups with the Miui music player. Could have been kernel related but I'm using the same kernel with CM 7 (tiamat) with no issues, but I'm also using Player Pro (which I could have used with Miui). I hadn't planned on staying with Cm 7, but after using it for the past week, I'm really happy with it now, and will continue to use at as my daily driver. I may flash Miui again to experiment though from time to time I do still keep a part of Miui in my phone though... I really like the Miui Camera app
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I love miui animations and the settings is better looking. I use launcher pro and its awesome.
To fix the music, go into settings after it freezes and reboots and clear the data in the music app.
I love all the different lock screens and how simple it is. This is not an iPhone with launcher pro. It's android after being cleaned up.
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What makes MIUI more customizable then CM7??
I have tried out both and feel like CM7 has more features. Can anyone fill me, or anyone else who is curious, about main features then separate these two roms?
I am currently running Skyraider, but feel myself drifting back to one of the two mentioned before.

kubes069 said:
What makes MIUI more customizable then CM7??
I have tried out both and feel like CM7 has more features. Can anyone fill me, or anyone else who is curious, about main features then separate these two roms?
I am currently running Skyraider, but feel myself drifting back to one of the two mentioned before.
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Miui has a fully supported theme app that does way more than the cm7 one. I had a lock screen that could open 10 different apps...the notification bar is more efficient too
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Sorry for my lack of knowledge on this Knipp, as I am still trying to learn as I go. I more or less try to teach myself everything, and have done a pretty good job so far, in my eyes at least.
But, when you say "fully supported theme app", i am no so sure i understand what you mean. Does that mean, MIUI has themes with apps built into them?
I appreciate the time you take to reply to my question.

kubes069 said:
Sorry for my lack of knowledge on this Knipp, as I am still trying to learn as I go. I more or less try to teach myself everything, and have done a pretty good job so far, in my eyes at least.
But, when you say "fully supported theme app", i am no so sure i understand what you mean. Does that mean, MIUI has themes with apps built into them?
I appreciate the time you take to reply to my question.
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No problem and Yup go to settings then themes
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I love MIUI, mainly because it looks better aesthetically, but that's just my opinion. CM7 is great too.
The deal with MIUI themes is, you can download several different themes and use aspects from each for different things (e.g. use one theme's lockscreen with another theme's notification bar, and a third's icons,etc.)

I find MIUI to be much more useable and stable too.

MIUI sometimes gets a bad rap because it CAN look like an iclone, but only if you really want it to: you don't have to theme it that way if you want it to look different.
You can change the look of everything - from the taskbar, to the kind of lock, the lockscreen background, the launcher (although I use LPP), the size and shape of the icons, sms, fonts, and even the dialler - and more. It's pretty impressive, IMHO.

knipp21 said:
I love miui animations and the settings is better looking. I use launcher pro and its awesome.
To fix the music, go into settings after it freezes and reboots and clear the data in the music app.
I love all the different lock screens and how simple it is. This is not an iPhone with launcher pro. It's android after being cleaned up.
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Thanks for the headsup on the Music fix.I figured it had to be something crazy going on.
I ended up reflashing back to Miui just after my original post earlier today.
Added a few changes that I had been using with CM 7 and now I'm back to the Miui fold once again.
I forgot how much I really do like the Miui experience. I plan to do the update to 1.9.9 later, I'm still on 1.8.26
To the OP... I would give both a try and see which you prefer...

MiUi 1.9.9 is constantly giving me fc whenever I do anything. Not sure why. It's android.process.alcore, whatever that is. Anyone able to help me? Please pm me if you can.
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For me its about the aesthetic. MIUI is ridiculously neat and crisp. Yeah I don't care for the iPhone like launcher...but oh well. I do use adw or go launcher from time to time..but the MIUI has those stock folders that are so cool. And just cause the launcher looks like an iPhone isn't so bad. Its still android. We can still do nandroid backups and flash other stuff. We can overclock our phones and play with them all day. IPhones are for yuppies, but....they are onto something with the layout/launcher. In the end it is all up to the user. CM7 is for sure something to try. Having to also flash that gapps.zip kinda is lame but but all of us like hanging out in clockwork recovery. Lol
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Yuo, the overall Miui experience is something to be enjoyed. After flashing back a few days ago, I flashed back to CM7 for a few minutes last night, and the first thing that caught my eye was the overall lack of crispness so to speak. Miui sure has the crispness to it. It is a great rom. I do still like CM 7 as well though. after a little theme work it can look really good as well.

PacerguyDon said:
Yuo, the overall Miui experience is something to be enjoyed. After flashing back a few days ago, I flashed back to CM7 for a few minutes last night, and the first thing that caught my eye was the overall lack of crispness so to speak. Miui sure has the crispness to it. It is a great rom. I do still like CM 7 as well though. after a little theme work it can look really good as well.
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How did you theme it like this?

anyone using miui with the latest JDKernal? is it better with JDkernal or Tiamat?
Thanks

Honestly its all based on what you want. If you want something more iPhone like go with Miui if not go CM7. Personally i like stock Sense 3.0 so i'm running Virtuous Unity.

spiderj said:
anyone using miui with the latest JDKernal? is it better with JDkernal or Tiamat?
Thanks
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I was running the latest version of Tiamat and ran across someone using JD Nightly and was professing "Incredible" battery life. So I started test-driving that kernal late yesterday. So far, I'm not seeing anything incredible, but I'm going to give it a couple days to "settle" before passing judgement.