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[Q] Best ROM / Kernal - DInc

Hello XDA,
I'm swapping out my BlackBerry Storm2 today, for an HTC Incredible.
I have been lurking around on Droid forums for a few weeks now, especially here.
I want to put CM6 on my DInc, but I have a lot of people telling me it's really buggy.
Which is the best ROM out right now? The least buggiest, preferably.
Also, which Kernal works best with which ROM?
Sorry for the seemingly stupid questions.
Thanks in advance!
Edit:
One more thing I don't quite fully understand. Do some themes only work with some ROM's?

Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.

I use Virtuous 2.7 Power Saving as well and absolutely love it.
I added the SexyRosieBrowser Mod and Rotary Lockscreen Mod and deleted a lot of the bloatware and widgets I never used from HTC and Verizon.
I also added the EVO Camera
It's pretty much the best of BOTH worlds... a mix mash of Vanilla and Sense UI!!!
very stable and only a few minor bugs that aren't that big of deal.

khanam said:
Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.
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PhillyCheez said:
I use Virtuous 2.7 Power Saving as well and absolutely love it.
I added the SexyRosieBrowser Mod and Rotary Lockscreen Mod and deleted a lot of the bloatware and widgets I never used from HTC and Verizon.
I also added the EVO Camera
It's pretty much the best of BOTH worlds... a mix mash of Vanilla and Sense UI!!!
very stable and only a few minor bugs that aren't that big of deal.
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Thanks for the quick replies guys,
I will definitely be trying Virtous out before anything else.
Some people told me CM6 was great but it was made with a heavy code. So i'm guessing it's buggy and slow at times?
It's just weird coming from a BlackBerry device that all you can do is throw on some Hybrids and .cod files :/
@PhillyCheese What are the benefits of the EVO camera? What does the SexyRosie mod do?

ogkhaze said:
I will definitely be trying Virtous out before anything else.
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Definitely recommended. Virtuous is the most stable ROM I've used on my Inc so far. Cyanogen and Ruby both do this random reboot thing on my phone -- I haven't tried any other AOSP-based ROMs.
Some people told me CM6 was great but it was made with a heavy code. So i'm guessing it's buggy and slow at times?
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I don't think it's "heavy" per se, but it has far more mods to the AOSP base than Ruby does. That also doesn't mean it's more or less buggy than other ROMs either.
What are the benefits of the EVO camera? What does the SexyRosie mod do?
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The Evo camera app has an onscreen shutter button. At least, that's the only significant difference I can find.

ardax said:
Definitely recommended. Virtuous is the most stable ROM I've used on my Inc so far. Cyanogen and Ruby both do this random reboot thing on my phone -- I haven't tried any other AOSP-based ROMs.
I don't think it's "heavy" per se, but it has far more mods to the AOSP base than Ruby does. That also doesn't mean it's more or less buggy than other ROMs either.
The Evo camera app has an onscreen shutter button. At least, that's the only significant difference I can find.
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Awesome thanks for the tip man.
So when I get the Incredible today it probably won't be running Froyo right off the bat, correct? Should I update it right away?
Also, does using ROM Manager reduce the risk of bricking your phone? That's the only thing I'm scared of.

Based off of your recommendations I'm going to give Virtuous a try for the first time. Got it queued up in ROM Manager as we speak, let the fun begin!

Actually, it probably will be running Froyo already.
Personally, I'd spend the first few days running the phone as stock as possible to make sure there's no weird hardware problems. Once that's out of the way, root (Unrevoked 3) + NAND unlock (Unrevoked Forever) + stock backup.
After that, it's all up to you.
2 other tips that bit me in the ass at first:
1. HTC's People app (contacts) has a distinction between "Google Contacts" and "Phone Contacts". Only "Google" contacts are synchronized to the Google Account linked to your phone. It sounds obvious in retrospect, but the first time I entered all my contacts they went in as "Phone" contacts by default. That made for a nasty surprise the first time I wiped my phone.
2. There was some extreme weirdness with synchronization between People and my Google Contacts online. The only way I ended up with all my contacts showing up in People (and the Dialer) correctly was to make sure they were entered into the "My Contacts" group in Google Contacts. Those warts seem to have been ironed out with Froyo though. It's still probably significantly easier to enter your contacts online though than through your phone, particularly if you dump a CSV from your Blackberry first.

ardax said:
Actually, it probably will be running Froyo already.
Personally, I'd spend the first few days running the phone as stock as possible to make sure there's no weird hardware problems. Once that's out of the way, root (Unrevoked 3) + NAND unlock (Unrevoked Forever) + stock backup.
After that, it's all up to you.
2 other tips that bit me in the ass at first:
1. HTC's People app (contacts) has a distinction between "Google Contacts" and "Phone Contacts". Only "Google" contacts are synchronized to the Google Account linked to your phone. It sounds obvious in retrospect, but the first time I entered all my contacts they went in as "Phone" contacts by default. That made for a nasty surprise the first time I wiped my phone.
2. There was some extreme weirdness with synchronization between People and my Google Contacts online. The only way I ended up with all my contacts showing up in People (and the Dialer) correctly was to make sure they were entered into the "My Contacts" group in Google Contacts. Those warts seem to have been ironed out with Froyo though. It's still probably significantly easier to enter your contacts online though than through your phone, particularly if you dump a CSV from your Blackberry first.
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Thanks a ton man, unrevoked took his tool down, i've been checking back to see when it'll go back up.
Thank you for telling me about the contacts as well.

I recommend spending time on stock froyo non-rooted for at least a month.
You will have much more wisdom when moving to a new ROM because you will know what you like and don't like, want to add, want to remove...etc.
ALSO, it will give you enough time to find out if your incredible is defected! i thought i had a defected one cause i was having speaker issues but a nice hard reset did the trick. you will also know how your phone SHOULD work.
SexyRosieMod gets rid of the ugly sense ui at the bottom of the phone and replaces it with what you would find on vanilla android.
So far the only difference (but a very nice difference) in the EVO Camera is the adding of a shutter button on the screen. i hated having to long press the screen or use the track pad to take a picture.
I tried CM6.... it was nice and there are a few things i enjoy about it but there were things in sense ui that i just couldn't live with out. Also, CM6 was definitely buggy. I do miss being able to change the color of the android sleep clock, the power widget and the awesome wallpapers he included.
As far as Contacts go... I was lucky enough to have them backed up on Verizon already. But if you are a ROM switcher you want them backed up to your google account. I was lucky enough to figure out that i was able to import my verizon contacts as a .csv file straight into my google contacts.

ogkhaze said:
Thanks a ton man, unrevoked took his tool down, i've been checking back to see when it'll go back up.
Thank you for telling me about the contacts as well.
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if you go to that page and click the IRC channel you can easily download it in there at the top.

PhillyCheez said:
I recommend spending time on stock froyo non-rooted for at least a month.
You will have much more wisdom when moving to a new ROM because you will know what you like and don't like, want to add, want to remove...etc.
ALSO, it will give you enough time to find out if your incredible is defected! i thought i had a defected one cause i was having speaker issues but a nice hard reset did the trick. you will also know how your phone SHOULD work.
SexyRosieMod gets rid of the ugly sense ui at the bottom of the phone and replaces it with what you would find on vanilla android.
So far the only difference (but a very nice difference) in the EVO Camera is the adding of a shutter button on the screen. i hated having to long press the screen or use the track pad to take a picture.
I tried CM6.... it was nice and there are a few things i enjoy about it but there were things in sense ui that i just couldn't live with out. Also, CM6 was definitely buggy. I do miss being able to change the color of the android sleep clock, the power widget and the awesome wallpapers he included.
As far as Contacts go... I was lucky enough to have them backed up on Verizon already. But if you are a ROM switcher you want them backed up to your google account. I was lucky enough to figure out that i was able to import my verizon contacts as a .csv file straight into my google contacts.
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PhillyCheez said:
if you go to that page and click the IRC channel you can easily download it in there at the top.
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Yeah I suppose I should probably run the phone stock as it is my first HTC device, and my first Droid device, coming from a BlackBerry.
So you go into their IRC site and then its the link they have at the top, it says not to distribute it so I'm not going to post the link here.
Edit: Yeah that's the link, going to get my DInc now, and play around with it!
Any other tips?

ogkhaze said:
Yeah I suppose I should probably run the phone stock as it is my first HTC device, and my first Droid device, coming from a BlackBerry.
So you go into their IRC site and then its the link they have at the top, it says not to distribute it so I'm not going to post the link here.
Edit: Yeah that's the link, going to get my DInc now, and play around with it!
Any other tips?
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I used that link before... reflash.exe
worked like a champ!
as far as tips...
read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739428
I used this guide quiet a bit...
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_HTC_Incredible
I never installed ADB before rooting nor did I mess with the radio (risk of bricking). your DInc should have the latest radio anyways.
Have fun and good luck!
enjoy stock froyo sense ui for awhile... seriously!

PhillyCheez said:
I used that link before... reflash.exe
worked like a champ!
as far as tips...
read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739428
I used this guide quiet a bit...
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_HTC_Incredible
I never installed ADB before rooting nor did I mess with the radio (risk of bricking). your DInc should have the latest radio anyways.
Have fun and good luck!
enjoy stock froyo sense ui for awhile... seriously!
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I will definitely spend some time on stock, maybe root it at least, but I will for sure get used to it, and get to know what I want changed.
Thanks again for all your tips man.

Hey,
I'm unrevoked forever.
I'm thrilled with the leaked Dinc 2.2 rom and hydrakernel.net v0.5 kernel (under volted,but same clock speed).
This will give you enjoyment of a stable rom with root.

khanam said:
Virtuous 2.7 ROM + powersaving kernel + rEVOlution theme is my recommended combo and believe me I have tried a bunch! Its incredibly stable - you get to remove a good amount of the crapware and manages to keep the best of sense widgets too. I have tried many others - Ruby/CM in ROMs, King's kernels and various themes (yes they are ROM specific) and this is what I keep going back to.
My 2 cents.
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This ^
Just switched to the virtuous ROM 4 days ago from SkyRaider's 2.5.2 (never quite got 3.0/1 working to my liking) which taking nothing from the SkyRaider ROM, it was by far the most bug free, smoothest ROM I had used to date on my DInc. However, there is always a new shiny around the corner, and Virtuous is it for me. There are far better choices though if you want to strip your phone down to nothing and have none of the "wow-factor" features or visual effects installed, but generally thats restricted to the Linux diehards that still think we have to use a terminal to operate a PC. =) I keek i keed!

I have used Frankenrom (b6) and Virtuous (from 2.1 through 2.7) fairly thouroughly and had absolutely no problem with either of them. I tried ruby for a few hours a couple days ago and was really enthusiastic with how stripped down it was. The camera didn't seem to go up to the full resolution and I was getting tired so I flashed back to Viruous and went to sleep. I'd be willing to try Ruby again though. I'll probably be giving Redemption a try too in the near future.

slak? said:
I have used Frankenrom (b6) and Virtuous (from 2.1 through 2.7) fairly thouroughly and had absolutely no problem with either of them. I tried ruby for a few hours a couple days ago and was really enthusiastic with how stripped down it was. The camera didn't seem to go up to the full resolution and I was getting tired so I flashed back to Viruous and went to sleep. I'd be willing to try Ruby again though. I'll probably be giving Redemption a try too in the near future.
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Has anyone had any experience with Uncommon Sense or CM6?

I'm currently using Ruby 1.1.1 with adrynalyne's alternate kernel and have been very pleased. My previous rom was Virtuous... and I agree with what others have said, it is a great, stable, trimmed down rom that ran great.

I want my DInc to look like this:
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(Cyanogen Mod 6)
Is there anyway to get this look without using CM6?

Simple and Easy to Use ROM?

My mom has a HTC Desire and after using the phone for 7 months, she still doesn't know how to use her phone very well. Android is simply too advanced for her. So I come here asking, is there a ROM out there that is simple and easy to use? iPhone and iOS are very easy to use and everything is pretty straight forward. If there is no simple and easy to use ROM, what ROM do you guys suggest I install on her Desire? There are way too many ROMs for the HTC Desire compared to Samsung Captivate.

geokilla said:
My mom has a HTC Desire and after using the phone for 7 months, she still doesn't know how to use her phone very well. Android is simply too advanced for her. So I come here asking, is there a ROM out there that is simple and easy to use? iPhone and iOS are very easy to use and everything is pretty straight forward. If there is no simple and easy to use ROM, what ROM do you guys suggest I install on her Desire? There are way too many ROMs for the HTC Desire compared to Samsung Captivate.
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I personally don't see what's so complicated about Android, but on the off chance that Sense is confusing her, you might want to try an AOSP rom or CM. The Sense 2.1 / 3.0 ROMs add more features and so probably won't help your situation

There is nothing complicated about Android at all, especially when you have Sense. Sense makes it a lot easier anyway. Maybe try another Sense rom but that might not help. AOSP roms will be more complicated for your mum so try MIUI. MIUI looks like iOS so it might be a good way to go about it. But realistically, all smartphones are more or less the same as each other. There are just different layouts that's all.
I would think that you have tried to teach your mum before but that doesn't help. I would seem to think that she would get stuck in the notifications bar and the apps. If she understands them, then she understands Android.

Buy a Nokia lol
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Try this
But no realistically, you could try MIUI, it is a bit simpler to use.

Meaple said:
There is nothing complicated about Android at all, especially when you have Sense. Sense makes it a lot easier anyway. Maybe try another Sense rom but that might not help. AOSP roms will be more complicated for your mum so try MIUI. MIUI looks like iOS so it might be a good way to go about it. But realistically, all smartphones are more or less the same as each other. There are just different layouts that's all.
I would think that you have tried to teach your mum before but that doesn't help. I would seem to think that she would get stuck in the notifications bar and the apps. If she understands them, then she understands Android.
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I find Sense to be a lot more complicated than TouchWiz. It's a pain getting to the Phonebook, Messaging, etc. Maybe because I haven't used the phone that much, but as you said Android isn't really hard to use at all as they're all more or less the same.
I'm on the stock Telus ROM right now, so maybe Telus made things complicated and it's not Sense that's complicated to use. How is AOSP more complicated? I'll take a look at MIUI.
What Sense ROM would you recommend? There's so many to choose from.

I'm not sure how Telus set up their phones, but can't you just create the messages and contacts shortcut icons on the home screen?
Aosp isn't so much more complicated to use, it just has more options and flexibility. Its as easy to use as you want it to be, just don't access the extra settings. Just use what you want and leave everything else alone.
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It's always a question of what she is used to. If she had an iPhone before, of course android may be a bit confusing at first (maybe she should take a look at miui then).
But actually i also don't see what's complicated 'bout android.
I would propose to flash the latest stable CM release, since it is basic, stable and fast.
Then I would ask your mum, where the problems are exactly?
(f.e: She doesn't find her contacts? Put a widget on the homescreen!)
The good thing about android: you can customize it exactly the way you need it.

geokilla said:
I find Sense to be a lot more complicated than TouchWiz. It's a pain getting to the Phonebook, Messaging, etc. Maybe because I haven't used the phone that much, but as you said Android isn't really hard to use at all as they're all more or less the same.
I'm on the stock Telus ROM right now, so maybe Telus made things complicated and it's not Sense that's complicated to use. How is AOSP more complicated? I'll take a look at MIUI.
What Sense ROM would you recommend? There's so many to choose from.
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AOSP is fine to use, it's just like any other rom. It gets a little complicated when your trying to set a few things up. Like joining Facebook contacts to your contacts. That sort of thing. I've seen a lot of people ask around here in the past about these "complications".
I currently use AceSMod Lite. I did use the full stock version but it was slow due to my SD card being slow, I should say laggy a little. My advice is to just try them out and see which ones you like. Rom choosing is just trial and error.

Che123 said:
It's always a question of what she is used to. If she had an iPhone before, of course android may be a bit confusing at first (maybe she should take a look at miui then).
But actually i also don't see what's complicated 'bout android.
I would propose to flash the latest stable CM release, since it is basic, stable and fast.
Then I would ask your mum, where the problems are exactly?
(f.e: She doesn't find her contacts? Put a widget on the homescreen!)
The good thing about android: you can customize it exactly the way you need it.
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She used to have a LG Dare. Not iPhone.
She doesn't even use more than 10% of the phone features. Not once have I seen her use the Browser, GPS, etc. Only outbound and inbound calling, and sending text messages to us. That's it. Maybe she shouldn't have gotten a smartphone in the first place...

Long press on home screen then choose shortcuts>applications>contacts
Long press on home screen then choose shortcuts>applications>messages
Now you have quick one press access to her most used features
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Did you tell her what she can do on it? It might be worth talking to her and showing her how to use it.

Meaple said:
Did you tell her what she can do on it? It might be worth talking to her and showing her how to use it.
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Showed her numerous times. Advanced phones just aren't for her.
Everytime we go out for lunch on the weekends and she wants to check her e-mail, she asks me to do it for her. She can do it herself too but it takes her a long time sometimes. No she's not a senior.
Just today she called me while I was at work asking why there's a WiFi message on her phone lol.

I don't think you'll find a ROM to simplify things so maybe this isn't the phone for her, maybe consider buying another phone dude
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I was going to upgrade my mom's Desire yesterday to some sort of Gingerbread with Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM, but why is it so hard to upgrade compared to my Captivate? There's like 50 billion steps involved. My Captivate had only like 3 steps.
Btw are the Sense 3.0 ROMs stable?

How about Oxygen? Compared to others with a lot of menu for tweaks and whatnot. Oxygen is pretty basic.. and damn fast too.
Or try to get a phone not as complicated for your mom. It would be a waste to get a smartphone dumb down instead getting a not so smart phone being used easily and optimally.
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[Q] Need advice in switching from CM7 to MIUI

I'm mostly a lurker and try not to post much since most any question I have has already been answered (I've spent hundreds of hours on here but only posted a couple of screenshots), but I am looking for a little advice. I have been running CM7 with Tiomat kernel on my Evo for about 2-3 weeks and am pretty happy for the most part, but now I'm getting itchy to try out MIUI for the first time.
1. How does this forum infect people with the insatiable urge to constantly mod? ;-)
2. Any tips on a smooth(ish) transition? This is a pretty subjective question but I figure I will learn more from your answers than in dozens more hours poking around.

You'll be hard pressed to go back to CM.
Get the newest MIUI from MIUI.US
Use Aman Ra, Wipe Everything except SD Card and Battery Stats, if you're not fully charged. Flash MIUI then DT A2SD, if you're partitioned, boot up.
Let it settle, Reboot to Recovery, Flash Kernel (Tiamat 4.1.0 and 3.3.7 Are recommended)
Boot up And have at it.

Hey bonillamktg,
Ive used Miui for a few months as a daily driver and to be honest i loved it, its a simple interface that is easy to use but filled with features. You can overclock it stock with set cpu , out of all the roms i have tried so far i would say it was the smoothest, that flowed the best, the only issue i had was some problems with video recording. but besides that it gave me the best battery life i have ever had over 24 hours on a single charge with the stock evo battery. personally i would recommend it, and I liked it better then CM7 "only my option of course". But I say give it a shot, just nandroid up before hand so you can flash back if you dont like it!
Enjoy, hope I somewhat helped lol

Thanks, HipKat! I just read through your entire Ultimate Guide to Everything Evo 4G and learned a ton. That is probably the single most valuable post I've seen on any forum.
I've already been using Tiamat 4.1.0 and it has been good to me, so I'm glad to hear that it works well with MIUI. I fell asleep soon after posting this but I'm up now so I'll let y'all know the results.

Stevo, your description is exactly what I keep seeing over and over that makes me want to give it a shot. I feel like my setup now is a bit clumsy, it gets the job done but I have to go to 20 different places to tweak everything. Thanks! I'll let you know what the end result looks like!

bonillamktg said:
Thanks, HipKat! I just read through your entire Ultimate Guide to Everything Evo 4G and learned a ton. That is probably the single most valuable post I've seen on any forum.
I've already been using Tiamat 4.1.0 and it has been good to me, so I'm glad to hear that it works well with MIUI. I fell asleep soon after posting this but I'm up now so I'll let y'all know the results.
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Thank you!
The best part about MUIU is all the hidden little things you can do. Read the OP in the MIUI forum. Plus the built in themeing capabilities are limitless

HipKat said:
Thank you!
The best part about MUIU is all the hidden little things you can do. Read the OP in the MIUI forum. Plus the built in themeing capabilities are limitless
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With or without SBC?

I only use SBC

Yeah and thats what I was reading all about before I gave it a shot to. I say go for it and give it a flash, it really is a nice smooth rom. One thing I forgot to add before when ever I use a sense rom I am normally getting around 150mb free ram, but on MIUI I was getting easily 250mb! & yeah I feel ya, its always a pain to tweak everything to perfection. Well hopefully Miui works out for ya! Your welcome, an thanks for keeping me updated on your journey haha. Good luck

HipKat, wondering if you would know why I'm having an issue. I was actually hoping that this type of feature might be built into MIUI, but I've been using Wallpaper Wizardrii for a little while now because it crops properly for non-scrolling wallpaper and doesn't pixelate...at least not until now. With CM7 & ADW.EX, it worked perfectly, but now, it is pixelating horribly. It's not the images, they are the same ones I used before that worked well.

bonillamktg said:
HipKat, wondering if you would know why I'm having an issue. I was actually hoping that this type of feature might be built into MIUI, but I've been using Wallpaper Wizardrii for a little while now because it crops properly for non-scrolling wallpaper and doesn't pixelate...at least not until now. With CM7 & ADW.EX, it worked perfectly, but now, it is pixelating horribly. It's not the images, they are the same ones I used before that worked well.
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In ADW ex, do you have the wallpaper hack option turned off? I think that option has something to do with wallpaper quality or color depth or something. You can also try Superwall lite or MultiPicture LWP. They're both live wallpapers, but I've seen no battery drain with either and I've used both. Superwall might be better since you're just using one image.
I get amazing wallpaper quality with MIUI, especially on the default launcher. Clear defaults for ADW or use a home switcher app to see what the wallpaper looks like on the default launcher with the same app. If it looks fine on the stock launcher, it could have something to do with your install of or settings in ADW.
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I tried turning off the wallpaper hack and then went back to an image I used to get clearly and it was split in two, basically the left half of the image was moved over to the right.
You are right in how impressive the image quality is on MIUI's stock programming, even using ADW. If I really wanted to, I'd take an image editor, even something basic like MS Paint, and edit an image so it'd be centered where I want it. I change my wallpaper too often for that, though.
I found the Flikie Wallpapers app which has some great wallpapers, but I'll remember Superwall Lite for the future.
Thanks so much for the advice!

Here is where I am at now. I like the combination of Minimalistic Text, Missed It! and Quick Agenda that I put together at the top. I wish I could've integrated the SwitchPro widget into it, but it isn't scaling right for me (It leaves a big gap that I don't like). It's also not letting me edit the images for the switches, which I want to do before integrating it up there.
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well i for one have tried the tiomat kernel on the MIUI rom and so far I noticed that my battery drained a little faster than usual. The one thing i did like about it was that i was able to use the hdmi mirroring. But I went back to cyn kernel with miui in the end (^_^)

miui is awesome. i love how many pink themesbthere are...yes im a girl...and how i can customize the theme the way i want it. i promise that you will be addicted. its a lot better than any other rom, and im a flash maniac. i do have a question maybe someone can help me, I'm on the latest miui 1.12.9 when I do group text messaging it force closes? What gives? Any ideas?
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Well, unless you use the extended settings, wall paper on MIUI does scroll, so maybe the images you're using are being resized improperly. FYI, and you probably know this, but the wall paper size on scrolling desktops for the EVO are 960px x 800px @72 dpi. 480 x 800 for lock screens.
BTW, you should lose the background on your Minimalistic text. or at least turn the opacity way down.

Just saw your post now, and hopefully hipkat can help you more with this, but i think your issue is to do with the rom itself. That is one downside of Miui there is no 720 picture taking and I really want to say the rom it's self has less resolution to it, when using it i did have a lot of low quality things images, and after flashing back to a sense rom I noticed much better quality images within pictures my backrounds and even just certain apps.
Hope that helps a little, is it just wallpaper your having issues with or is it other images?

MIUI is a 180 degree spin from CM completely different but its real nice you will enjoy it very stable and complete. The 1.11.18 version worked great for me then i tried 1.11.25 and had too many issues. By the way can some1 hlp me get a copy of .18 or .12 just to have? I cant seem to find it anywere and i didit save a copy. Thanks.
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One reason why I don't use MIUI is because it doesn't have 4G support. So if you use 4G routinely, you may miss it.

True that. No 4G. For me, I don't have it here, anyhow, and have access to WiFi all the time, home and work

So, how smooth is JB?

Any experience from GN users in actual use?

Smooth.
What's the point of this thread again?
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... A baby's bottom.

Pickx said:
Any experience from GN users in actual use?
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Straight after the OTA, I didn't think it was very smooth - it was almost a bit stuttery at times - but after 15 minutes use, it really perked up and the speed difference is now very noticeable. (I don't know whether wiping the cache partition after the OTA might help that too.) I've been using it continuously since last night and it's definitely much more responsive, especially switching between tasks using the soft key, and jumping between the home screen and the app list and on-screen menus and such.

VERY smooth.
For those that say iphone and wp7 are so smooth blah blah blah jelly bean its super smooth and definately on par with other OS now.
All of the native apps run butter smooth.
Some 3rd party apps still have a bit of stutter with scrolling etc but thats the app not the OS.
Very impressed with what google have done with the triple buffering.

neilalexander said:
Straight after the OTA, I didn't think it was very smooth - it was almost a bit stuttery at times - but after 15 minutes use, it really perked up and the speed difference is now very noticeable. (I don't know whether wiping the cache partition after the OTA might help that too.) I've been using it continuously since last night and it's definitely much more responsive, especially switching between tasks using the soft key, and jumping between the home screen and the app list and on-screen menus and such.
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Just as an FYI, the first 15 min. stutter/slow down is most likely due to background sync that the phone is doing. It won't have much of an indication to the user, since it's "background" sync.

Flash Stock JB 4.1.1
Flash Franco's Linaro-optimized JB Kernel
buttery smooth.

I think it is much smoother than it was before on ICS. Project Butter really does its job very well!

neilalexander said:
Straight after the OTA, I didn't think it was very smooth - it was almost a bit stuttery at times - but after 15 minutes use, it really perked up and the speed difference is now very noticeable. (I don't know whether wiping the cache partition after the OTA might help that too.) I've been using it continuously since last night and it's definitely much more responsive, especially switching between tasks using the soft key, and jumping between the home screen and the app list and on-screen menus and such.
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Same here !!
At the first time I thought the 'smooth' was such a joke. But after minutes, like neil alexander said, it's very different and very smoothness !!!! :victory:
I don't wiped the cache, or anything like that.
JB is awesome !!!

Toxina said:
Flash Stock JB 4.1.1
Flash Franco's Linaro-optimized JB Kernel
buttery smooth.
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Flash it without the kernel. Still buttery smooth.

Pickx said:
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I am going to be totally honest with you. I was extremely disappointed with JB. I tried it for the first time yesterday (Jelly Belly v3) and I must say it is rather choppy in some areas. Ex. When swiping between home screens (stock launcher) it for some reason decides to get stuck or it pauses on a home screen and as a result you have to swipe a second time just to make it to the next screen. This only happens when swiping at a fast pace though. On the other hand on ICS this does not occur not matter how fast you swipe between screens.
Aside from that problem everything else does seem noticeably "smoother" Ex. the stock browser, pinch 2 zoom, and overall scrolling is somewhat more fluid. But if I were asked if it was worth upgrading to JB...I would respond by saying no...not at this point. Which is why I decided to flash back to aokp b39 this morning. I would much rather wait for an aokp build. A lot of apps are incompatible or do not work as intended at this point...no surprise there since this a new release. Just to be fair though I would say Google did a great job overall. Just give it a little time and all things will be sorted out by aokp and cm10. JB is only going to get better in the next few months. As of now I will just keep waiting patiently for the next aokp build.
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Leave it with the stock kernel. thats the smoothest youre gonna get. i was with franco before but its much better on stock for now.

Jelly Bean is super smooth on the Galaxy Nexus. For me the biggest improvements are in the app switcher and lockscreen which used to lag horribly sometimes and now work instantly without a hitch.
Some 3rd party apps still aren't smooth. For example Opera has always had and still has really choppy looking animations.

Amazing smooth for me, even the xda app(that used to lag horribly) flies
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Merio90 said:
I am going to be totally honest with you. I was extremely disappointed with JB. I tried it for the first time yesterday (Jelly Belly v3) and I must say it is rather choppy in some areas. Ex. When swiping between home screens (stock launcher) it for some reason decides to get stuck or it pauses on a home screen and as a result you have to swipe a second time just to make it to the next screen. This only happens when swiping at a fast pace though. On the other hand on ICS this does not occur not matter how fast you swipe between screens.
Aside from that problem everything else does seem noticeably "smoother" Ex. the stock browser, pinch 2 zoom, and overall scrolling is somewhat more fluid. But if I were asked if it was worth upgrading to JB...I would respond by saying no...not at this point. Which is why I decided to flash back to aokp b39 this morning. I would much rather wait for an aokp build. A lot of apps are incompatible or do not work as intended at this point...no surprise there since this a new release. Just to be fair though I would say Google did a great job overall. Just give it a little time and all things will be sorted out by aokp and cm10. JB is only going to get better in the next few months. As of now I will just keep waiting patiently for the next aokp build.
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Every phone handles things differently, but I would suggest flashing a no-frills, pure AOSP build, like mROM, if you want to test drive JB. Some of these ROMs have extra tweaks and features that may hamper performance, and alter your experience...check out a pure, stock rooted build, and you may change your mind.
Galaxy Nexus - Slim Bean a4

I don't think JB is that much of an improvement, it is smoother but nothing groundbreaking.
Only two things I like is the new voice search and the new transitions.
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I also was expecting a much more smooth experience. But I think it will get better with future updates.
The biggest complain I have is the responsiveness of the touch. I'm a fast writer and I notice that the screen response to touch isn't the same as it was in 4.0.4. I'm using SwiftKey 3.
I notice that some touch events aren't processed/detected and this makes me miss some key touches. Have you notice something like that?
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As smooth as the glass on the display

Very smooth. Noticeably smoother than ICS. No problems with micro-lag or keyboard lag or anything on stock OTA, stock kernel. Absolutely love it.

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[Q] The lag is killing me.

(I'm Dutch, so my English isn't anywhere near perfect, I'll try to explain my issue as good as possible)
The past month I have been dealing with a very annoying kind of lag on my LG G3. After trying to unroot my Nexus 5, I absolutely destroyed it and lots of things went wrong. After that, my phone wouldn't boot up anymore and I had to buy a new one, which was the LG G3. The phone looks good and all, and the specs are great, but my experience with the interface is that it tends to be very choppy and lags frequently. Since a few days my WhatsApp starts lagging as well. Whenever I want to send a message to someone, I start typing as usual, but after the first letter it freezes for a second or 1-2, and then it starts typing again. This is very frustrating because this causes me to make a lot of typos. My phone tends to freeze a lot in general, and in the 6 months I've had the G3, I had to take out the battery like 3 or 4 times already, because I couldn't turn if off manually.
I've attempted several things to solve it, like installing certain apps, deleting all unncessesary pictures/videos in order to clear up space, deleting all apps I never use. Nothing seems to work, though. In my opinion, despite the fact that the LG G3 is better when you look at the specs, the Nexus 5 will remain to be my number 1 favourite phone, because I have never experienced any kind of horrible lag like I do on my LG G3. It's too late though, now I have to deal with this phone for the time being, until I can afford a new one.
So, what should I do? Should I root my phone and install a custom ROM that increases overall performance and eliminates lag? Or are there any other things I should consider? Please let me know guys, I would really appreciate some kind help right here <3

I read somewhere that the LG keyboard lags upon typing if you have more than 2 languages set up. Try to reduce to one language only.

Thanks for the suggestion. Though, my LG-keyboard only has the Dutch language set up, no other language is selected. Tried using other keyboard such as Google Keyboard and Swiftkey, but to no avail unfortunately.

Ive found that Kit Kat is a lot more stable for the G3, I have the D850

Never had an experience like what you have. I think you can try to uninstall the necessary apps to check if it's caused by some of them, switch to another input method like Google keyboard to get rid of the type lagging. Good luck.
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I've just got the phone to see how it performs and I'm struggling with the lag all around the system. Apps can take an age to open, the gallery is especially slow. There's just a distinct lack of smoothness.
I'm coming from the OPO, so have been blessed with the AOSP experience. I may flash an AOSP ROM, but I want to test the camera's true potential.
Ant recommendations? I'm trying out Chupa Chups 4.2 for the time being to see if that is any better.
Regards.
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For @lynxboy I recommend BlissPop ROM, I'm using it and only wished I'd gone AOSP sooner. I'm also using the Motorola Camera apk which has all the Camera options of stock plus more. BlissPop also comes with its own camera based off CM and you can also install the Google Camera so you have 3 options there.
@Stefalicious There's not much you can do on stock to get rid of lag mate, I recommend you root and install a custom ROM. If you like the stock interface and layout you can flash something like CloudyG3 that is based off stock, otherwise BlissPop is amazing and is AOSP-Based.

iDefalt said:
For @lynxboy I recommend BlissPop ROM, I'm using it and only wished I'd gone AOSP sooner. I'm also using the Motorola Camera apk which has all the Camera options of stock plus more. BlissPop also comes with its own camera based off CM and you can also install the Google Camera so you have 3 options there.
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How's the camera quality on AOSP though? I've been searching and keep reading that there's a significant hit in the output quality of images.
Regards.

@lynxboy depends on the Camera app you use. Personally, I use the Motorola one and get fantastic photos with the laser focus and either 1080p or 4k video is available so no issues there.
In the G3 General section there's a dedicated "Photos taken with the G3" thread so maybe if you asked in there for samples from people using AOSP ROMs you might get some replies?
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[/COLOR @lynxboy There's also this mod you can use to get even better quality:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3071063

Just an update. I installed Chupa Chups 4.2 and performed further debloating by uninstalling the majority of the LG apps including home, keyboard and messaging etc.
Now running Nova (material beta) and have built up the cache for most apps. There's still lag on system apps like Gallery and Phone, but it's much better than it was out of the box.
I guess the Korean OEM skins will never match AOSP for pure fluidity, but maybe I can cope with this for the time being.
I can always go back to the OPO if needs be.
Regards.
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i got a G3 a few days ago, cheap, as a backup phone to my M8. was really surprised at lag on the G3 like others, thought it would be a helluva lot smoother. originally ran stock, now running Cloudy 2.2 and Nova launcher in which IMHO, don't see any noticeable different from LG stock, although battery life is marginally better.
i did notice that running any live wallpaper will lag the homescreen considerably, no big deal, but for a phone of this calibre, should not be an issue. my M8 has never missed a beat on anything.

Thank you all for the great replies. It's both good and bad to see that I am not the only one dealing with these lags. I followed iDefalt's advice and decided to root my LG G3, install the TWRP custom recovery and flash a custom ROM. My personal preference went to CM12, just because of the looks. I haven't really looked at CloudyG3, and I don't know how CM12 and CloudyG3 compare to each other, but so far I must say that I am VERY impressed with CyanogenMod12. The performance has improved by a mile, I feel that the battery life has gone up slightly too, and of course the UI looks so sexy, just like it would on a Nexus 6 with Lollipop. I love it. Even my homescreen looks sexy!
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Stefalicious said:
Thank you all for the great replies. It's both good and bad to see that I am not the only one dealing with these lags. I followed iDefalt's advice and decided to root my LG G3, install the TWRP custom recovery and flash a custom ROM. My personal preference went to CM12, just because of the looks. I haven't really looked at CloudyG3, and I don't know how CM12 and CloudyG3 compare to each other, but so far I must say that I am VERY impressed with CyanogenMod12. The performance has improved by a mile, I feel that the battery life has gone up slightly too, and of course the UI looks so sexy, just like it would on a Nexus 6 with Lollipop. I love it. Even my homescreen looks sexy!
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Stock CM-12 is bug ridden just beware, most AOSP ROMs like BlissPop, etc. Have better battery life, overall better performance, and often fix the bugs in the stock CM-12 builds, so in all honesty it goes:
Custom-AOSP ROM > CM-12 > Custom Stock-Based ROM > Stock w/root > Stock
Anything is an upgrade from stock though. CloudyG3 is stock-based, not AOSP, just for future reference
For anyone looking for even more performance, you can install a custom kernel for your ROM. In CM-12's case, being AOSP-based, you can install the 777 kernel by 777-Jon, or the Furnace kernel. Both work really well, and BlissPop comes with the 777 kernel included in the ROM because it's that good.
Glad to see it got sorted out, I'm available for anymore questions!
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Just an update. I installed Chupa Chups 4.2 and performed further debloating by uninstalling the majority of the LG apps including home, keyboard and messaging etc.
Now running Nova (material beta) and have built up the cache for most apps. There's still lag on system apps like Gallery and Phone, but it's much better than it was out of the box.
I guess the Korean OEM skins will never match AOSP for pure fluidity, but maybe I can cope with this for the time being.
I can always go back to the OPO if needs be.
Regards.
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You can even get AOSP skins and themes for stock-based Custom ROMs, so if you like the look of AOSP but want the features of the stock-based custom ROMs... They're available!
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simes6600 said:
i got a G3 a few days ago, cheap, as a backup phone to my M8. was really surprised at lag on the G3 like others, thought it would be a helluva lot smoother. originally ran stock, now running Cloudy 2.2 and Nova launcher in which IMHO, don't see any noticeable different from LG stock, although battery life is marginally better.
i did notice that running any live wallpaper will lag the homescreen considerably, no big deal, but for a phone of this calibre, should not be an issue. my M8 has never missed a beat on anything.
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To be fair it's using a GPU that was designed to push 1080p displays, not 1440p/Quad-HD displays, so a live-wallpaper running on a stock kernel will push the GPU. The reason your M8 runs better is because even though it's the same CPU and GPU underneath, the screen is only 1080p and not 1440p, therefore the GPU doesn't have to power nearly as many pixels (Twice as less, in fact. ) But if you want even more performance, you can install a custom stock-based kernel like the ChupaChups kernel that works with all Stock-Based custom ROMs and optimizes things a bit better