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Why so long for sales in the US? Why is the US three weeks behind the rest of the world in the WP7 release? Is it a network or service provider issue?
Paolo01 said:
Why so long for sales in the US? Why is the US three weeks behind the rest of the world in the WP7 release? Is it a network or service provider issue?
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Honestly I think Microsoft is using the international launches as a sort of final beta test before the November launch in the US.
Critics here will be much more vocal about any issues than in other parts of the world, so it makes sense to iron them out before it hits US news channels.
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Honestly I think Microsoft is using the international launches as a sort of final beta test before the November launch in the US.
Critics here will be much more vocal about any issues than in other parts of the world, so it makes sense to iron them out before it hits US news channels.
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Yeah thats probably what they are doing but its not that long till the US release.
Iridox said:
Honestly I think Microsoft is using the international launches as a sort of final beta test before the November launch in the US.
Critics here will be much more vocal about any issues than in other parts of the world, so it makes sense to iron them out before it hits US news channels.
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Maybe. I just think that it is funny that MS's largest product in years is launched outside of the US first. MS is an American company. I have no issue with this, just curious as to why. I wonder if att is the cause of the delay?
When does the "rest of world" holiday shopping season start. US is considered Thanksgiving, so a November launch makes perfect sense. Get some buzz and word on the street by the time we are done eating turkey. Canada has their Thanksgiving a week before, so that makes sense as well.
Iridox said:
Honestly I think Microsoft is using the international launches as a sort of final beta test before the November launch in the US.
Critics here will be much more vocal about any issues than in other parts of the world, so it makes sense to iron them out before it hits US news channels.
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In my opinion, there's no way they're going to pinpoint bugs and create patches in 3 weeks. Especially hard if these overseas users aren't as vocal, as you say. Then what, as soon as you buy your WP7 here in the US you'll be forced to update it right away? Not buying it and in fact I think this is ridiculous that a company would even think about doing that.
I'm betting it's a US carrier delay.
i went to see it before it was on sales cuz my friend works in vodafone. don't really like the feel of the HTC.. i'll be holding it off till i get other choices in brand, i don't like HTC LG and Samsung in the design of these phones.. i need a keyboard and good camera.. does anyone know if SE going to make a wp7 phone.. i'm using the x2 now and i have to say it as given me a run for my money...
In Austria A1 (network operator) sell all three windows 7 phones + a free Xbox 360 today (21.10)
It's a nice sale but I'm very happy with my HD2 with Android on it
Here is the link: windowsphone7xbox
wow HTC including Xbox...cool..hope they will do this in Asia..
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wow HTC including Xbox...cool..hope they will do this in Asia..
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I think Microsoft is responsible for this
Today is the WP7 launchdate for France...
yamimillenium said:
Today is the WP7 launchdate for France...
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And O2 Germany , but it isn't online yet .
Hong Kong is in the 21st launch list too, but I asked around, nobody knows anything about Windows Phone 7. I was thinking to get either the Omnia 7 or HD7.
Not a good start for WM7, All the places that are supposed to have stock do not.
And other stores are not sure when it is coming in, or have no idea about it at all.
Microsoft should be pleased with this great start.
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Maybe. I just think that it is funny that MS's largest product in years is launched outside of the US first. MS is an American company. I have no issue with this, just curious as to why. I wonder if att is the cause of the delay?
When does the "rest of world" holiday shopping season start. US is considered Thanksgiving, so a November launch makes perfect sense. Get some buzz and word on the street by the time we are done eating turkey. Canada has their Thanksgiving a week before, so that makes sense as well.
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i think its because you guys have Sue culture for anything and everything thats why MS is making sure its works fine before its sold in US....
Just kidding
truffle1234 said:
i think its because you guys have Sue culture for anything and everything thats why MS is making sure its works fine before its sold in US....
Just kidding
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Just out of interest are there any WM7 phones for sale in Malaysia.
after reading the news on front page, it seems that time zones start in US
too bad that small countries exist in a different dimension, because there are no services such as zune pass nor bing available
even the phones aren't available at launch time - seems like winning the market isn't really an excuse here
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Maybe. I just think that it is funny that MS's largest product in years is launched outside of the US first. MS is an American company. I have no issue with this, just curious as to why. I wonder if att is the cause of the delay?
When does the "rest of world" holiday shopping season start. US is considered Thanksgiving, so a November launch makes perfect sense. Get some buzz and word on the street by the time we are done eating turkey. Canada has their Thanksgiving a week before, so that makes sense as well.
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Probably like others said - they're testing out the infrastructure and whatnot before the big launch in NA.
Also, as a Canuck, I'd love to correct you: Our Thanksgiving is the first Monday of October.
It's payback time...
My guess is that it has to do with the supply of phones. With people saying stores not receiving stock yet would tell me there is short supply. So delaying 2 1/2 weeks gets more units in stock. Or maybe I just have hopeful thinking.
Hey guys,
http://www.facebook.com/Microsoft?v=app_143254022397124
there's a link for Microsoft's CES live stream, currently happening. you have to "like" the page on facebook, but hopefully there'll be some WP7 devices or features announced.
the WP7 woman on now is so enthusiastic it hurts my soul
Well that was crap. No new devices announced, only stuff we knew about the updates and a basic tour of features.
Laaaame.
Not a single new thing shown for wp7... we aren't getting that update anytime this week or next week for that matter....
she did some copy & paste
other stuff like introducing WP7 at its launch
what's their problem?
no update announce?
now Baldmer is blah blah-ing about their Windows team
nothing new.. what a non-event ces
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what we have?
I think nothing
is tal all?
i mean are there anymore presentations of MS on CES tomorrow or day after?
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is tal all?
i mean are there anymore presentations of MS on CES tomorrow or day after?
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check the agenda
i think there's no more from MS
we're finished
abhinayp said:
is tal all?
i mean are there anymore presentations of MS on CES tomorrow or day after?
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We are done.
Go HERE for some more information
should we wait for MWC in Feb or not?
Damn.. lol i expected a lot more..
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Damn.. lol i expected a lot more..
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I bet when a update finally comes, it will as a damper as this CES event.. like just a small copy/paste update... nothing else.
I'm extremely disappointed with todays presentation. No update was officially announced and they only addressed two future features. And is it just me or was that girl TOO energetic? I love WP7 but this is pretty damn upsetting. If we don't get some big updates soon I'm going back to BlackBerry. Definitely not jumping onto the trashy Android bandwagon or the overdone iPhone crowd. Back to BlackBerry for me if MS don't give us something good...
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I'm extremely disappointed with todays presentation. No update was officially announced and they only addressed two future features. And is it just me or was that girl TOO energetic?
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too bad for me as well, and yeah, that girl was like the first time shake hand with BalDmer and 1st time play with the phone, she should have that presentation at Wp7 launch, not now
eternalemb said:
I'm extremely disappointed with todays presentation. No update was officially announced and they only addressed two future features. And is it just me or was that girl TOO energetic? I love WP7 but this is pretty damn upsetting. If we don't get some big updates soon I'm going back to BlackBerry. Definitely not jumping onto the trashy Android bandwagon or the overdone iPhone crowd. Back to BlackBerry for me if MS don't give us something good...
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That girl was on Crack..
Where can I go to watch the CES video again?
I'm not sure, but it's reeeeaaaally not worth it
WP Central have the entire video, nothing new in it though, the over excited, rather thin lady is entertaining if you like that sort of thing.
Almost as bad as last years CES keynote. Absolutely nothing of worth to show.
I was hoping for a WP7 tablet....
Or Silverlight on Xbox 360....
Or app store on Windows/Xbox 360......
we have more information now to the roadmap of many features will come on the windows phone device during this year & 2012,so Microsoft will break his silence & reveal everything in Developers Day in London on May 25th
http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-to-detail-future-windows-phone-roadmaps-in-may/
First off, the site name has rumors. Need I go further?
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First off, the site name has rumors. Need I go further?
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don't call it rumor yet...seeing that may and windows phone has a history
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/windows-phone-7-more-technical-tidbits-exposed/
especially with exposure of technology and what is to come for the mobile world...
I won't take it with a grain of salt and furthermore I don't think any wp7 user should either...regardless
Great find!
More like the roadmap to the roadmap, and its in May! Nothing to see here, because we all know MS will stick rigidly to whatever roadmap is announced.
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First off, the site name has rumors. Need I go further?
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if u prefer http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/when-will-we-hear-more-about-windows-phones-future
https://msevents.microsoft.com/cui/EventDetail.aspx?culture=en-GB&eventid=1032478233
or here http://uktechdays.cloudapp.net/techdays-live.aspx
I wonder if they will factor in the Microsoft time delay formula, or will we have to do that ourselves?
(Actual Product or Update Release date) = (Release Date + OEM Delay - Rumor Announcements) + (3 Months)
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I wonder if they will factor in the Microsoft time delay formula, or will we have to do that ourselves?
(Actual Product or Update Release date) = (Release Date + OEM Delay - Rumor Announcements) + (3 Months)
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u forgot one thing (carrier)
rumors
This rumor is not worth the paper it is printed on. It is yet another attempt by someone to up their hit count.
Oh, wait, it ISN'T even printed on paper.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7
-e
All the good stuff will be at MIX11 in Vegas. It's been said before by the WP team that is where most of the new info will be revealed as they want to excite developers.
My bet is that the London event will be a recap of what is said at MIX11 with possibly a few new things, but nothing major.
What will be and won't be in 'Mango' seems up in the air. My bet is they hit their target date (give or take a few weeks) but not all features may make it, which is why they purposefully didn't mention them at MWC.
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All the good stuff will be at MIX11 in Vegas. It's been said before by the WP team that is where most of the new info will be revealed as they want to excite developers.
My bet is that the London event will be a recap of what is said at MIX11 with possibly a few new things, but nothing major.
What will be and won't be in 'Mango' seems up in the air. My bet is they hit their target date (give or take a few weeks) but not all features may make it, which is why they purposefully didn't mention them at MWC.
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WOW!!! a malatesta sighting! Thanks for getting the wpcentral pods back up and running.
wp7dev007 said:
This rumor is not worth the paper it is printed on. It is yet another attempt by someone to up their hit count.
Oh, wait, it ISN'T even printed on paper.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7
-e
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There's no rumor to it. Microsoft is the one promising the updates on the future of Windows Phone, not me. Thanks for the flame though.
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WOW!!! a malatesta sighting! Thanks for getting the wpcentral pods back up and running.
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lol, I lurk a lot around here ;-)
hopefully will have a new podcast up in a few days...been busy this week, glad you enjoy 'em though.
http://twitter.com/#!/joebelfiore
He also says (or links to) a site that shows the first day of fall as 23rd September. I think we all know what he is trying to say
wwfc said:
He also says (or links to) a site that shows the first day of fall as 23rd September. I think we all know what he is trying to say
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And there we go, gettings up our false hopes again.
He also said, "PS - this website shows you the START of fall. Don't jump to conclusions!! http://bit.ly/oKGsJ2." So don't hold your breath.
I still haven't got NoDo on my Omnia 7. I'm sick of waiting!
I wait in silence!
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No we don't.
Awww crap! that means it won't be arriving until AFTER september 23rd... I actually thought Microsoft would release something ahead of schedule but they never like to disappoint us do they.
Today Microsoft has treated its customers like dirt, had many days to say that today was not the day of the update. It's just a shame the company can not say a release date.
Walk to complain that no sales? No one will buy an OS that only has 5 languages in the operating system.
And then to make matters worse go all happy to show TV ads to show MANGO, WTF? And to show new apps with MANGO ....
It's just a shame .... They lost a customer.
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Today Microsoft has treated its customers like dirt, had many days to say that today was not the day of the update. It's just a shame the company can not say a release date.
Walk to complain that no sales? No one will buy an OS that only has 5 languages in the operating system.
And then to make matters worse go all happy to show TV ads to show MANGO, WTF? And to show new apps with MANGO ....
It's just a shame .... They lost a customer.
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It shows the attitude of the company. The customer is the last consideration. You can't expect anything good or satisfying from a company like that. If they can't see the dissatisfaction with what customers they do have, they certainly wouldn't consider anything the customer wants.
It seems like the customer is out of the loop as far as what MS is doing...like the customer isn't even a slight thought in their minds.
joaodaega said:
Today Microsoft has treated its customers like dirt, had many days to say that today was not the day of the update. It's just a shame the company can not say a release date.
Walk to complain that no sales? No one will buy an OS that only has 5 languages in the operating system.
And then to make matters worse go all happy to show TV ads to show MANGO, WTF? And to show new apps with MANGO ....
It's just a shame .... They lost a customer.
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Mushroom management courtesy of Microsoft...again!
joaodaega said:
Today Microsoft has treated its customers like dirt, had many days to say that today was not the day of the update. It's just a shame the company can not say a release date.
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They never said it was 9/15 so what made you believe it? If I say its coming 9/17, will you believe this and blame MS if they don't deliver it by then?
They don't comment on speculation and they said before that it will come this fall and we still have summer.
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They never said it was 9/15 so what made you believe it? If I say its coming 9/17, will you believe this and blame MS if they don't deliver it by then?
They don't comment on speculation and they said before that it will come this fall and we still have summer.
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I explained this to like 5 people on Youtube earlier, received a lot of hate mail in reply lol people are complete idiots - they will make it widely known when it is getting released.
Microsoft is waiting for the iPhone 5 announcement to release Mango so that everyone pays attention to Windows Phone. Or will they?
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Peew971 said:
Microsoft is waiting for the iPhone 5 announcement to release Mango so that everyone pays attention to Windows Phone. Or will they?
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I don't know what the real deal is with the Mango release date, but intentionally trying to steal attention from Apple by releasing it on the same day (or even the same week) as the iPhone 5 would be an epic mistake. WP7 is nowhere near popular (or even well-known) enough yet to compete with the cacophony of noise that the iPhone 5 will generate. It would be analogous to dropping a small stone into a pond, trying to make more waves than someone else who is dropping a 50 pound boulder.
Iphone5??? More dumbass speculation, MS never once said 9/15... Xda is getting ridiculous, I just follow some tech news sites now, and some Wp7 dev forums here from now on
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It shows the attitude of the company. The customer is the last consideration. You can't expect anything good or satisfying from a company like that. If they can't see the dissatisfaction with what customers they do have, they certainly wouldn't consider anything the customer wants.
It seems like the customer is out of the loop as far as what MS is doing...like the customer isn't even a slight thought in their minds.
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I'd like to add to this. They pushed quite hard every developer, in an announcement, to update their app to Mango like NOW or sooner if possible !
The hell I will ! If you push a Mango update, you can't update your NoDo version anymore, forever ! So basically I don't even know when the new features I add will become available to the general public (surely not before 1-2 months for most customers) and at the same time if I find a bug in my current version I won't be able to fix, never again.
So you're asking me once more a leap of faith, even after you provided a disaster of update schedule the last (and only) time around ? You must be kidding me...
Playing hide and seek games and having cryptic (supposedly funny ?) posts with release dates after the mess they did with their first one... doesn't feel right.
State a fixed date, well in advance and honour it
well said my freind..
A lot of good logic in this thread.
To the poster who said "if I say it's the 17th, will you get mad at MS for not releasing it on the 17th?", that isn't what happened. EVERYONE for some reason thought it was the 15th. It wasn't just a few obsessed fans. It was engadget, wpcentral, etc. -everyone-. That was the rumor. And it would take 40 seconds to write a blog post saying otherwise.
Moronic public relations from Microsoft. Rule 1: OPEN COMMUNICATION.
If a rumor gets as substantial as the 15th one did, then you address, and dismiss it. You don't write (like someone above said) a cryptic tweet just to fuel more speculation.
all of yall must be idiots
they never said the 15th but yet yall hold them to it
even if they said go today your carrier would not be ready some still don't have nodo
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A lot of good logic in this thread.
To the poster who said "if I say it's the 17th, will you get mad at MS for not releasing it on the 17th?", that isn't what happened. EVERYONE for some reason thought it was the 15th. It wasn't just a few obsessed fans. It was engadget, wpcentral, etc. -everyone-. That was the rumor. And it would take 40 seconds to write a blog post saying otherwise.
Moronic public relations from Microsoft. Rule 1: OPEN COMMUNICATION.
If a rumor gets as substantial as the 15th one did, then you address, and dismiss it. You don't write (like someone above said) a cryptic tweet just to fuel more speculation.
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Mostly the reason because everyone thought it was the 15th, is the absolute need for it to come out as soon as possible as it's too late already, the window is closing extremely fast.
The platform is freaking late and having a new major iteration of ios close at hand, contemporary to something that puts WP somewhere around a 2009 OS, well you get the picture...
But ultimately, it's just that being in this sh•••y situation, you would expect they would learn to communicate better with their public. It's not like you're Apple, you're the n.1, you've already made proselytises by the bucket who have never been disappointed by your products...again, this cryptic tweets and no updates make them look arrogant.
Has anybody heard about Microsoft or Nokia planning a commercial for Superbowl. This would be the perfect opportunity for Microsoft or Nokia to debut a commercial showing off the OS among the many viewers who will be tuning into the Superbowl. Lots of people watch the superbowl just for the commercial. I hope some of that advertising money will bring about an amazing commercial for WP7.
I hope they do, and believe they will. Its a perfect time to advertise both WP & the Lumia's.
I guess they could push the 710. Seems too early to advertise the 900, that's ~6 weeks.
Ok the superbowl is amognst us today. Has anybody heard of any MS commercials that will be branding WP7.
This is the perfect time for MS to market their product like crazy. WP should have sponsored the superbowl. lol
If any commercials post them here:
PG2G said:
I guess they could push the 710. Seems too early to advertise the 900, that's ~6 weeks.
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There will be movie trailers for summer films during the Superbowl, so it's never to early to build up anticipation.
Samsung is planning a 4th quarter commercial stating something dramatic.
What does MS or Nokia have to rebound off of this
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Samsung is planning a 4th quarter commercial stating something dramatic.
What does MS or Nokia have to rebound off of this
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it will be interesting ... maybe bill gates and that comedian guy trying on shoes again ? LOL (just reserving a place to comment later
Was just a Samsung Galaxy Note commercial. Oh well.
Didn't see any iPhone or other droid commercials, also didn't see any carrier commercials cept for USCC, no sprint,no AT$T,no T-mob or Andrizon. So not a total disappointment.
Yeah, that commercial was pretty lame.
guy: "*GASP*, is that a pen?!"
Yes, and they were laughed out of existence in the early 2000's as completely cumbersome and useless.
And now it's some sort of godsend? No thanks, I've had a stylus device. There is no positive to it whatsoever.
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Didn't see any iPhone or other droid commercials, also didn't see any carrier commercials cept for USCC, no sprint,no AT$T,no T-mob or Andrizon. So not a total disappointment.
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The competition (with 90%+ market share) didn't advertise, so its ok that m$ (with -4%) didn't ? I figured people would be raising hell over a lack of marketing.
Also, the pen the note has is... well you should try it out...
Seems the official web-stream from NFL.com was a different story...
Ads for Verizon and the Samsung Galaxy II all over the place.
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The competition (with 90%+ market share) didn't advertise, so its ok that m$ (with -4%) didn't ? I figured people would be raising hell over a lack of marketing.
Also, the pen the note has is... well you should try it out...
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its not m$ its MS and they have way more than -4%.
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its not m$ its MS and they have way more than -4%.
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M$ is widely understood to mean microsoft, it seems the $ is derogatary or just a dollar sign, depending on the point of view.
The "-" was a typo., it was supposed to say 'around' 4%, which is a best guess, since there are no official sales numbers from M$. Last I read it was 43% android and 45% iphone, but those numbers change from source to source too.
Even if the samsung note ad was over the top, it has people talking. The stylus may have been a plan to get it even more free publicity, attracting the old palm pilot lovers, I don't really know. The screen size is a draw for me...
I was so disappointed that there wasn't an add for the Lumia 900.
It probably made the most sense, since the device is not expected for another month and a half...but still.
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I was so disappointed that there wasn't an add for the Lumia 900.
It probably made the most sense, since the device is not expected for another month and a half...but still.
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imo windows phone no-show is better than samsung paying millions for that stupid galaxy note commercial.
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Yeah, that commercial was pretty lame.
guy: "*GASP*, is that a pen?!"
Yes, and they were laughed out of existence in the early 2000's as completely cumbersome and useless.
And now it's some sort of godsend? No thanks, I've had a stylus device. There is no positive to it whatsoever.
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I have to say, nothing has tempted me to abondon Windows Mobile as much as Galaxy Note. For the artistically inclined, Galaxy Note is a godsend.