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No 3rd party live tiles :(

So, unfortunately, it looks as if live tiles for 3rd party apps are too difficult and expensive
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=tho...ons-and-live-tiles-anywhere-in-the-cloud&5669
It's a pity, this was the one of the things that have made me consider a WP7 - I guess I'll just have to go to Android...

That isn't good for either the customer or 3rd party developers.
Hopefully M$ will change how the live tiles work as otherwise they will loose a big selling feature.

I'm not repeating myself... so look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8768892&postcount=31

I think the statement in quoted from iridium21 link is not exactly correct. There is scheduled notifications type, that can update Live Tiles from local resources without the requirement of web service. It is a matter of dev implementation, not a WP7 flaw.
Edit: After some investigation I've discovered that actually Microsoft does not allow using local resource for changing the Tile through a tile schedule. So it’s true: no live tiles without web service.

To confirm , even official apps don't have live tiles. http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/...&utm_campaign=Feed:+pocketnow+(pocketnow.com)

Without the live tiles, the whole point of WM7 is lost, in my opinion.
I was considering a Dell Venue Pro, but I think it's going to be a HTC Desire HD now...

I believe that this will come in a future update.
Hopefully I'm right.

I don't get it. Push notifications require server infrastructure. It was known from the moment Apple introduced them. The server has to know where to push what. This is also not news. It doesn't need to know any more details about you than needed to notify Microsoft servers to push it to your device, which is nothing personal, just your PN channel ID (token, or whatever it's called). If you want to get personalized data about, say, weather, you do have to store your preferences on the server. This is not a "security issue" in any way. Most importantly, this is not news. Why everybody is so upset about it now is beyond me.

iridium21 said:
So, unfortunately, it looks as if live tiles for 3rd party apps are too difficult and expensive
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=tho...ons-and-live-tiles-anywhere-in-the-cloud&5669
It's a pity, this was the one of the things that have made me consider a WP7 - I guess I'll just have to go to Android...
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That's too funny when a member previously posted it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815463 he was called a troll, and android fan boy

iridium21 said:
So, unfortunately, it looks as if live tiles for 3rd party apps are too difficult and expensive
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=tho...ons-and-live-tiles-anywhere-in-the-cloud&5669
It's a pity, this was the one of the things that have made me consider a WP7 - I guess I'll just have to go to Android...
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they are not difficult, but need server infrastructure. But just step back and think about it. The services from which you need notifications are cloud based services. They already have the foundations for infrastructure. Now they need to add support for push notifications. They will do it. but will take time. it will be difficult for simple stand alone apps.. but which simple stand alone app you think needs notifications?
Android is already on its way to become an OS that needs regular resets to kill services that pile up in the background. (Remember Windows Mobile) Android does not kill an app until its RAM is full. All new phones have 512 MB RAM. it takes quite a few programs to reach a point when Android starts killing services. Till then, it takes a huge toll on battery.

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Android is already on its way to become an OS that needs regular resets to kill services that pile up in the background. (Remember Windows Mobile) Android does not kill an app until its RAM is full. All new phones have 512 MB RAM. it takes quite a few programs to reach a point when Android starts killing services. Till then, it takes a huge toll on battery.
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No truth to any of that. But lets stay on topic though.

Push notifications are a better way for interacting with web services in terms of preserving battery than having a bunch of services that continuously poll servers in background. I think it's hard to argue otherwise. However, push notifications aren't a substitute for multitasking in general, or even local notifications. They are a substitute for one specific use case - alerting users when certain events happen outside the phone.
My question remains, however - why is everybody anxious about it now? What exactly happened between MIX, when all of this became public knowledge, and now?

arkavat said:
they are not difficult, but need server infrastructure. But just step back and think about it. The services from which you need notifications are cloud based services. They already have the foundations for infrastructure. Now they need to add support for push notifications. They will do it. but will take time. it will be difficult for simple stand alone apps.. but which simple stand alone app you think needs notifications?
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I guess the whole point is that standalone apps don't need push notifications but have to rely on them simply to update homescreen tiles, which is an obvious overkill. I have a couple of apps that use badge notifications on the iPhone currently. One is a Google RSS reader, another is the Read It Later app. They both connect to web services, it's very useful that they show information about unread items on the home screen, but none of them really needs their own server infrastructure. Well, they could use it, but don't have to.

I hear bad things about the battery life of WP7 phones... apparently the lack of multitaskung doesn't help at all... Android still provides better battery life, despite that lots of apps can poll and update widgets in the background.
Don't trust the marketing blabla. WP7 will only be a static grid of icons, just like iOS. The only OS that REALLY is "live" is Android.

crow26 said:
WP7 will only be a static grid of icons, just like iOS.
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That's simply wrong. WP7 still supports live tiles updatable through push notification, iOS - not. Still, Android would remain most feature rich platform with all advantages and disadvantages that comes with that.

The phone can also poll for updates on a scheduled basis (every hour, day, week, or month). They don't have to be push. This will work well for things like weather updates where you don't need instaneous info anyways.

martoto said:
That's simply wrong. WP7 still supports live tiles updatable through push notification, iOS - not. Still, Android would remain most feature rich platform with all advantages and disadvantages that comes with that.
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I would ignore him. Mods already closed his other thread bashing WP7 and talking about how amazing Android is. It's clear he has an agenda and nothing of actual importance to say.

Live tile from weatherbug
http://www.wpcentral.com/weatherbug...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wmexperts+(wpcentral)
Don't know if its Live like MS tiles though.
Push notifications equals bubbles like the iPhone.

iridium21 said:
So, unfortunately, it looks as if live tiles for 3rd party apps are too difficult and expensive
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=tho...ons-and-live-tiles-anywhere-in-the-cloud&5669
It's a pity, this was the one of the things that have made me consider a WP7 - I guess I'll just have to go to Android...
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I think Microsoft need to make a web service available (perhaps through their Bing domain) that will allow developers to send their notifications to it, and then it could push those notifications onto the phone. Most developers will not have the budget to run their own webservices for notifications.

martoto said:
That's simply wrong. WP7 still supports live tiles updatable through push notification, iOS - not. Still, Android would remain most feature rich platform with all advantages and disadvantages that comes with that.
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READ the first post cause you didn't understand anything.

Windows Phone Build 7753

Not sure of the validity here, but WMPowerUser and WPCentral are both reporting that a user has a new update of the OS. One with the search icon for apps...
http://wmpoweruser.com/build-7753-of-windows-phone-7-being-pushed-out-to-some-people/

Would be glad to hear if there is a built-in task switcher.

To me its crazy that there are people out there with leaked Mango builds and we don't know a single feature that they haven't announced. That's why I don't buy it at all.

PG2G said:
To me its crazy that there are people out there with leaked Mango builds and we don't know a single feature that they haven't announced. That's why I don't buy it at all.
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That's a pretty retarded reason why not to buy. And to be honest, this is probably not Mango. Not even close. It's probably a progression of what we currently have, IF it's real, and just includes a tiny icon. We've seen Microsoft have different branches and those branches work on different features... I honestly don't think Mango is going to be the only update this year, and feel as though there will be 2-3 more minor ones along the way...

this is fake look at the color of the icons. And its blurry, you can see its photoshop.

PG2G said:
To me its crazy that there are people out there with leaked Mango builds and we don't know a single feature that they haven't announced. That's why I don't buy it at all.
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Why there should be feature they havn't announced？
People a buying products with announced feature not implemented, why not buy a device with announced feature working.

tfouto said:
this is fake look at the color of the icons. And its blurry, you can see its photoshop.
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Pretty sure that's not the users picture, wasn't that the picture of the April Fools Mango?
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FiyaFleye said:
Pretty sure that's not the users picture, wasn't that the picture of the April Fools Mango?
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nop...............

amtrakcn said:
Why there should be feature they havn't announced？
People a buying products with announced feature not implemented, why not buy a device with announced feature working.
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Because its a fact that the announced features aren't all that are coming in Mango? If someone has a build of Mango, they damn sure better be digging through it looking for something.

I sure hope that search icon is for a global search instead of an application search. I really don't know why MS doesn't make the app list like the contacts list, or songs list, with click-able letters. That would seem like the most logical and theme-oriented solution to the absurd list of all apps that we have now

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I sure hope that search icon is for a global search instead of an application search. I really don't know why MS doesn't make the app list like the contacts list, or songs list, with click-able letters. That would seem like the most logical and theme-oriented solution to the absurd list of all apps that we have now
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+1 on that. Same goes for the pictures hub, which needs some way to sort it anyways.

FiyaFleye said:
Pretty sure that's not the users picture, wasn't that the picture of the April Fools Mango?
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Not sure if this one is true but this one is different from the Apr 1st pic...

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Not sure if this one is true but this one is different from the Apr 1st pic...
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of course its fake... why are only pictures of the icon, why are not photos or videos with the new feature? its a joke and someone is laughing really bad.

UPDATE: Windows Phone Italy has discovered that this user's device was updated to build 7.0.7753.0, which is definitely a higher number than the normal 7390 build that we equate with the NoDo March update.
so it's not fake at all

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I really don't know why MS doesn't make the app list like the contacts list, or songs list, with click-able letters. That would seem like the most logical and theme-oriented solution to the absurd list of all apps that we have now
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This.
Let me say that again. THIS.
I realize that early on Microsoft was going for a "new" paradigm where apps were a secondary benefit of using the phone, but that has obviously changed. With over 13000 apps already in the marketplace, and many more coming, a better app launching mechanism NEEDS to be implemented, and soon.
At the very least, there should be tappable letters to jump to a section, PLUS an app-specific search (to completely follow the model of the People hub). But even better would be to also provide the option to display apps in a 3-column format (with small labels beneath the icons). Even better still would be to implement a third page of the start screen that would allow me to pin favorite apps in a 3- or 4-column format (no live tile support needed, just app icons).
Oh, and the same changes should be made to the Games hub.

So, more like Android or IOS then?

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+1 on that. Same goes for the pictures hub, which needs some way to sort it anyways.
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Well you can jump through the pictures by date if you sort by date

Why not integrate search for app in the BING search button?

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So, more like Android or IOS then?
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I guess if that's the way you want to look at it, you can. It just seems kind of silly to me.
The fact that a feature or behavior might exist on Android or iOS doesn't make that feature better or worse. But if there is a feature that is commonly used, and it can be easily adapted to the metro interface, it makes no sense to me to go out of your way to avoid it, simply so you can call yourself "different". That would be like designing a car where you have to use your nose to activate the turn signals, just so you could claim that you are different from all of the other manufacturers.

I don't think that's what his implication is. Rather I believe he's saying something along the lines of, "but this is Windows Phone though and it has certain design and decisions the developers, at the time, thought were distinguishing and possibly efficient."
My words of course assume he's speaking to your wish for a 3 or 4 column grid format

Differences between 7712 and RTM 7720?? Post your experience

as the title says, anyone who has upgraded Mango beta 2 to RTM 7720. Have you noticed anything different? Speed, features, stability etc.? lets use this thread to post our experiences (still havent done it yet, but will report once i do)
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thanks for putting up this thread, im looking for some differences as well.
I haven't upgraded yet to the leaked mango, it is tempting, but I`d rather wait for the official rom for my trophy.
from what I heard the 16bit color banding is still present, and no hidden wifi connectivity, and IE9 HTML5 performance is not yet optimized to 50fps due to the generic drivers used by the rom, instead of using the drivers specifically designed to the particular device, and this [maybe] why the 7720 is still in carrier/OEM testing.

The only so far is the maps, that were not working in brazil.

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The only so far is the maps, that were not working in brazil.
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By maps do you mean turn by turn navigation? I haven't really tried this in 7712 (btw im back to nodo 7392) all i know is that it can route locations and stuff, but not voice navigation.
Some says TBT is region dependent like Bing LS and Audio.

I dont know im not really seeing what the differnce is either they could have at least let you change alert tones you can set parameters for wifi connections other than that unless im missing it not even seeing what the update was for.

i haven't really seen anything different from beta 2

- not for retail gone.
- transitions when switching pages seems smoother
- linkedin contacts now showing on people hub live tile

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- not for retail gone.
- transitions when switching pages seems smoother
- linkedin contacts now showing on people hub live tile
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thanks for the feedback! lets keep them coming once we see something new
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IE9 now earns 141 points (7712 - 140) in HTML5 Test

By maps i mean i couldnt even find a place here. Now I can
But no turn by turn..

I found the HTC Apps in Marketplace is now working.

only found "not for resale" disapears

Exiting Bing Vision with the back button no longer freezes for a second as it did in 7712. Now there is an animation of the Bing page sliding down.

People Hub is changed. Twitter integration is now completely functional, so is LinkedIn as mentioned. Contacts show up and auto link where able to. Instead of having to go to individual posts on different services, you can now click the post and pivot to see the replies on different services. Phone is faster. Keyboard bug is fixed where it wouldn't automatically capitalize the first word of texts in messaging hub. Lock screen delay is gone on my HD7. Battery calibration seems a little more accurate, at least for me. Before, if you hit the search button in the Phone to search contacts, but backed out, the bottom buttons wouldn't reappear, this is fixed. Bluetooth is more consistent for me, it doesn't drop, it did on the previous build, often. Tiles no longer "bleed" and flicked through lockscreen for me. I know I found more fixes and features, but this is all I remember off the top right now.

FiyaFleye said:
People Hub is changed. Twitter integration is now completely functional, so is LinkedIn as mentioned. Contacts show up and auto link where able to. Instead of having to go to individual posts on different services, you can now click the post and pivot to see the replies on different services. Phone is faster. Keyboard bug is fixed where it wouldn't automatically capitalize the first word of texts in messaging hub. Lock screen delay is gone on my HD7. Battery calibration seems a little more accurate, at least for me. Before, if you hit the search button in the Phone to search contacts, but backed out, the bottom buttons wouldn't reappear, this is fixed. Bluetooth is more consistent for me, it doesn't drop, it did on the previous build, often. Tiles no longer "bleed" and flicked through lockscreen for me. I know I found more fixes and features, but this is all I remember off the top right now.
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also switching orientation has a different effect especially the people tab

i updated to 7720 yesterday and i think the lock screen is a bit different, the time and data shows up like an smooth animation (fade in) effect. i dont know if this was in 7712???

The time and date fade out has been in place since NoDo

I've just noticed it being a little smoother and boot up showing "not for Resale" is gone. It broke my sideloading tho, so I guess that's something

better battery life and increase in overall performace

Did anyone with mango update can confirm if Arabic is now read correctly on IE9? RTL issue
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Vote for Feature Suggestions

No doubt many of you are now aware of the Feature Suggestions forum that Microsoft has set up, presumably for Windows Phone 8 / Apollo. I was thinking that maybe we should put in combined efforts to upvote some suggestions that haven't gained a whole lot of traction, or to collaborate to introduce new ones. My idea here is not to vote on the popular suggestions, as they are likely to be seen by normal visitors and are likely to be noticed by Microsoft. This is about pushing the less popular but nonetheless good suggestions to the top.
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions
So - what features do you want that haven't received many votes / are not there at all? Do you have a suggestion on there that could do with some votes? Please include a link to the suggestion so we can easily vote.

Some of the more important things linked for you to vote on.:
Greatly improved battery life
Non-tap turn-by-turn voice navigation
Cloud backup of saved game progress
Device backup for sms/mms, apps, data, emails, settings
Screenshot support
"Flick-away" app closing in multi-task mode
Separate volume control for ringtone and media
OTA official updates
Notifications center or bar

we can be heard
over at the official forum where microsoft is listening, i've submitted a number of requests. bluetooth file transfer and screenshop support are top subjects at the moment, however a homebrew screenshot app just came out
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions

noelitaux said:
over at the official forum where microsoft is listening, i've submitted a number of requests. bluetooth file transfer and screenshop support are top subjects at the moment, however a homebrew screenshot app just came out
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions
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I hope they're listening. It would be cool if they implemented the most voted requests.

I believe Microsoft is listening. Would be great if they started implementing the top ones for Tango - many requests seem pretty minute, and are really just a matter of Microsoft DOING it. Would be absolutely killer in terms of usage and publicity if they include the Top 100 or something (why not? Mango purported had 500 features).

Applications Sub-menu
Ok this is one i have been thiking about since i now have over 150 applications on my phone.
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...ation-sub-menu-swipe-left-on-menu-i?ref=title
Enable sub-menus that can be swiped left to open third page of applications in that sub menu

MartyLK said:
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Will probably consider the ones that aren't in the Top 60. Those are the ones which could be lost in the mix and need our votes, the Top 60 are the first three pages and I would think that most people would have the patience to go through them.
Greatly improved battery life
Non-tap turn-by-turn voice navigation
I guess you could argue that battery life improvements will be in the mix regardless - it should be a generic goal at this stage. Note that the Mango devices actually do have much better battery life due to a more efficient processor. And I would say notification centre is currently being supported in this form:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...om-home-screen-should-show-list-of-?ref=title

I voted and I still want to send/receive audio/video through mms. I have a lot more phone#s than I have email addresses in my contacts.
I don't mind syncing to pc for update. I'd rather not have to use the storage on the phone for a backup. It might be a good option but I wouldn't want to have to solely rely on it.

I think Microsoft should not avoid basic functionality with the mindset of "no one really uses it". Likewise, Nokia should have kept the FFC for the Lumia 800.
I've put up two suggestions - really, ideas I see as fundamental.
"Speed dial" on new tabs
Third-party integration for hubs

Using WP beyond 6 months - Please comment here!

http://www.netbooknews.com/43643/why-i-left-windows-phone-7/
The reviewer here, left WP for Android after using it for 7 months.
Key issues that deterred here from using it beyond 7 months:
Lack of multitasking like Android where apps actually run in background
It did not connect to people as well as Android
Display resolution of 480 x 800
IE9 giving an error twice a month that - browser is out of date (new to me!)
Inability to share locations
You can't zoom in the maps (on pinned locations)
Can't share pics on Twitter (it's a **** experience -probably compared to iOS/Android?)
Now I for one know that I would disagree and can prove that those claims are wrong other than 3rd and 4th one as I've never had those issues. So they might be there waiting for me to discover it?
Anyone have similar issues after using the phone for more than a month or even better if you've used it over half a year!
Please don't troll.

drupad2drupad said:
Lack of multitasking like Android where apps actually run in background
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Yeah he has a point there, although I think Microsoft's solution (toast notifications and Live Tiles) is better for the user and the battery life. However this limits the options of small developers.
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It did not connect to people as well as Android
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Display resolution of 480 x 800
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At least for WP7 every app runs on (almost) every device, the only thing that's missing from some devices in the front facing camera.
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IE9 giving an error twice a month that - browser is out of date (new to me!)
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Newer happend to me either.
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Inability to share locations
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You can share locations on Facebook or using foursquare, WhatsApp etc.
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You can't zoom in the maps
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I don't really know what that means, in the maps app you can zoom in.
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Can't share pics on Twitter
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You can, Twitter is built right in.
I have been using WP7 since April 2011.

slimshady322 said:
Yeah he has a point there, although I think Microsoft's solution (toast notifications and Live Tiles) is better for the user and the battery life. However this limits the options of small developers.
At least for WP7 every app runs on (almost) every device, the only thing that's missing from some devices in the front facing camera. You can share locations on Facebook or using foursquare, WhatsApp etc. I don't really know what that means, in the maps app you can zoom in. You can, Twitter is built right in. I have been using WP7 since April 2011.
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Are you planning on moving away from WP anytime soon though?
A centralized notification area is definitely needed - probably within the 'ME' tile?

Never had any issues since Mango really, When I first started using WP7 on the HD7 early Jan 2011 I soon got bored with the lack of customisation as I had been using a HD2 and there was so much difference, I did go back to using my HD2 again but liked the new easy to use WP7 OS & after updating to mango I became more interested. I admit I don't fiddle with the phone as much any more but know it will do whatever I want when I want, Am happy with WP7 for now but eagerly await future updates to improve the few "lack of" features, I can't see me moving away just yet.

I personally do not agree with any of the issues listed and believe them to be false as far as useful experience. WP7 has been doing great for what I want and need since Mango and I actually have no plans to look at anything else. I use it for work as well and it fulfills it purpose and then some.
I have come from WM6 to Crackberry to this.
My family (4 of us) all have WP7 since VZW first released them and everyone is happy. I am the "IT" department for my family and we all came from RIMs and I have not had any "support" needs for the WP7 (same can not be said for RIM); it just works.

On a possessive note, as much as I grip and complain about WP 7; I have never had issues with IE 9 and find multitasking easy to use and don't see what people complain about. Twitter??? I personally don't use it on the phone nor the PC because it basically sucks. And about the display, well I see nothing wrong with it at all. There are so many other aspects of the phone that would have had made valid points for leaving WP which I will not bring up because I don't want to feed the troll/fanboys.

Been using it since Feb 2011. Am very happy with the platform and look forward to added functionality & features with Apollo.
I've not had any issues as he described. You can zoom in on maps. I've never seen that IE error. Sharing location is all over the place in WP and so is twitter sharing including pictures.
The resolution? Ok. Thats up to him if that is a platform killer. Can't argue with his preference on that.
Doesn't connect to people as well? Sorry I'm scratching my head here lol.
Apps running in background? Thats a preference as well, but I prefer the way MS has implemented it. When I was on Android it was a constant headache with stuff running my battery down when they shouldnt be running.

sinister1 said:
On a possessive note, as much as I grip and complain about WP 7; I have never had issues with IE 9 and find multitasking easy to use and don't see what people complain about. Twitter??? I personally don't use it on the phone nor the PC because it basically sucks. And about the display, well I see nothing wrong with it at all. There are so many other aspects of the phone that would have had made valid points for leaving WP which I will not bring up because I don't want to feed the troll/fanboys.
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THAT is such a change from your remaining posts through out the forum, thanks!

drupad2drupad said:
Are you planning on moving away from WP anytime soon though?
A centralized notification area is definitely needed - probably within the 'ME' tile?
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No I'll stay with my LG Optimus 7 for some time. At some point I will upgrade and I will probably again chose a WP7 device, but before I upgrade I would like MS to provide an option to backup my LG Optimus 7 and transfer all the data to another phone. Even though most stuff is in the cloud, I have tree stars in every Angry Birds level and I don't want to loose that
But I agree with you that the notifications should be stored somewhere.

slimshady322 said:
No I'll stay with my LG Optimus 7 for some time. At some point I will upgrade and I will probably again chose a WP7 device, but before I upgrade I would like MS to provide an option to backup my LG Optimus 7 and transfer all the data to another phone. Even though most stuff is in the cloud, I have tree stars in every Angry Birds level and I don't want to loose that
But I agree with you that the notifications should be stored somewhere.
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I think your wish will come true with Apollo as a 'total' back up is scheduled to be introduced. You will be able to back up 'everything' - unlike Android full back ups like Titanium where game scores are not backed up and neither are progresses!
Probably Apollo is where WP will stop 'catching up' and start adding things

That reviewer must be on some kind of crack or something. I have not had issues with anything that he has mentioned and I have used WP since march 2011 and used all the mango betas. Only issue I have is with the disappearing keyboard and that you can't upload from the browser. I would also want a backup solution,Skype and integrated public transit directions (already found a semi-integrated solution) to be 100% satisfied.

13 month user, I didn't like WP for a week, but never put my SIM back in my HD2..that's all I'll say about that ...
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11 months Mozart user here, since changing to WP, i had lots of free time to do my reading due to i spent less (actually almost none) time on tinkering or flashing my phone...
IMHO, I prefer the way MS integrated the "FAKE" multitasking method which I found it very suit my taste, and I can have total control on which apps I gave permission on background task, feel like I had total control of the phone (don't flame me because I know that some others had a different definition on Full Control of their device)

I find all of his accusations false except maybe 9. I think he means auto sharing location. There is some app i've seen peeps complain about because windows phone will only report your location automatically if it is in the foreground. From a security standpoint though, i'd be glad it doesn't but if you like that kind of app i guess that would be an issue.
The rest is BS. I've been using Windows phone since i got my surround for 180.00 off ebay (wasn't sure if i would like windows phone and my contract was up soon so i didn't want to waste my upgrade in case i didn't like it.) I used my upgrade to get a titan and my wife uses the surround to play games and use facebook. (she has a flip phone and didn't want to pay for data even though i swear to her i can shut the data off... i just got a purple case coming in from ebay so i may sway her )

i dont have any problems of them maybe the problem is the girl who tested DD

I have been using WP for a year. I still have my Nexus One that I used to use while travelling for Wifi hotspot and Navigation reasons. Mango and Navigon have resolved these issues. I still miss the notification tray/center and I sincerely hope WP gets it soon. Those who have used Android will vouch for me about importance of a good notification system.
Having said that, WP is my daily driver. The one thing that WP offers, that Android lacks, is the peace of mind. With Android, it was flash a ROM every week. Most of these ROM upgreades were not for features but for stability or improving some feature that google didn't integrate properly. Android reminds me of my WM days. Powerful but not a stable, cohesive experience.
I plan to stay with WP at least till beyond Apollo. I am curious to see how they integrate Windows 8, Xbox and WP8.

ive admitted only had my windows phone a week but after a serious play over the weekend when ive not been working - videos, photos, borwsing, messages etc.. you name it.
my only gripe is the volume/vibrate with no optin for silent and no vibrate.
Tother than that - coming from my HD2 which had been modded, my Titan seems very polished and smooth.

The article is BS, the only valid point is the screen resolution one.

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my only gripe is the volume/vibrate with no optin for silent and no vibrate.
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go to settings/sounds and ringtone/ set vibration to off
then on home screen you can toggle between ring and "silent"

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my only gripe is the volume/vibrate with no optin for silent and no vibrate..
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go to settings/sounds and ringtone/ set vibration to off
then on home screen you can toggle between ring and "silent"
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That is true, but it is a far from optimal workaround. Changing that setting doesn't just affect silent mode, it affects both ring and silent mode. I think what Symondo is asking for is a way to conveniently toggle between ring+vibrate, vibrate-only, and complete silence without resorting to opening the settings app.