[Q] Which Desire on Fido (Toronto) - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey,
I've spent forever trying to figure out which Desire model (A8181/82/83) will work best for 3g on Fido, but the info I get is confusing.
Can someone comment who actually uses the Desire on Fido in Toronto or knows for sure what frequencies Fido uses here?
I've seen people say in this forum that the A8183 (Australia) works for them. The A8183 works on 850/2100. That seems to work since Fido is listed as using 850/2100 (not allowed to post links yet: gsmworld . com / roaming / gsminfo / cou_ca.shtml).
BUT, I keep reading that Fido uses Rogers' network, which apparently uses 850/1900 (that would be the European(?) A8182.)
I'm looking into buying from Telus, they list HSPA as 850/1900.
So,
1. What frequencies does Fido use, and does it differ between locations/cities?
2. Can Fido users use the Rogers network?
3. Is the Telus phone ok for Fido? (Let's forget for a moment that they're out of stock and that BB has dropped the $449/no contract offer for it from their website )
4. Is it enough to have one of the supported frequencies? I read that networks may use one for upload and the other one for download only.
Thanks much!
j

I am using an unlocked Telus Desire on Fido and it works great. Telus uses the same 3G bands as Rogers/Fido (850/1900) so 3G will work. I got mine without contract from Futureshop last week. Best buy refused to sell it without contract. I rooted it and installed LeeDroid 1.9 and so far I'm loving it. My only problem is I cannot get mms to work for some reason.

Have you tried maually inputting APN settings on your Desire. I have and MMS works great on Rogers. Desire8183 from Aus.

Thanks guys. Still confused why different models should all work But hey, as long as it does... Gonna take the plunge asap.

I got mine, unbrand A8181, from UK. It works well with Fido but won't work for Rogers.

d.stayus said:
I am using an unlocked Telus Desire on Fido and it works great. Telus uses the same 3G bands as Rogers/Fido (850/1900) so 3G will work. I got mine without contract from Futureshop last week. Best buy refused to sell it without contract. I rooted it and installed LeeDroid 1.9 and so far I'm loving it. My only problem is I cannot get mms to work for some reason.
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Hi there, I have a Telus HTC Desire and unlocked it so it works with my Fido SIM card (e.g. can make phone calls). But, I haven't been able to get GPRS/Edge and 3G working for me. Would you mind sharing your APN settings?
Also, do you have your "Network mode" in "GSM only" or in "GSM / WCDMA auto"? Do you need "Data roaming" on for GPRS/Edge/3G to work?
I have an iPhone 3Gs and have GPRS/Edge/3G working perfectly there. I am using the same Fido SIM card now on the HTC Desire.
Thank you in advance, any assistance would greatly be appreciated!

sherwinchu said:
I turned on "Data Roaming". Didn't work. =( I also tried switching "Network Mode" to "WCDMA only". No luck still.
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I finally found the culprit -- my Fido SIM card. It's very unusual. I got the SIM card just March this year from Fido, and it works well with GPRS/Edge/3G when placed back in my iPhone 3Gs....but is totally crippled on my HTC Desire, except for voice.
I went to a cellphone store for help. The tech guy used his Fido SIM card on my HTC Desire and GPRS/Edge/3G worked fine. So, I just bought a new Fido SIM card from the store, and they helped me activate it. In 15 minutes, I finally got my HTC Desire working with GPRS/Edge/3G.
The APN settings I used were:
Name: fido internet
APN: internet.fido.ca
Username: fido
Password: fido
APN type: default

First of all, the desire you want is the 8183 if you want full functionality. The TELUS units will potentially work if unlocked but data will be crippled as they are built for different network types (cdma vs 3g). I am using a Telstra unit from Australia on Fido as it is the only one produced that matches all specs for use on Rogers/Fido or AT&T. To my knowledge, HTC has not released and unbranded/unlocked unit.
On another note, not sure why that guy said that something would work on Fido but not on Rogers as they are the same network.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

You are wrong TELUS is gsm only now so 3g bands are the same as Rogers, just have to change settings ..
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

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HTC S621 will not connect to fido network

hey there,
i just updated my t-mobile dash rom to the unbranded HTC rom...and it all went well...
but now, my phone will only connect to the Rogers Wireless network, whereas it used to connect to the Fido network. I went into my phone settings and added CA Fido (302370) and CA Fido (30237) to my preferred networks and moved them to the top.
Then i tried to "find a new network" but it only came up with Rogers Wireless again...so then I tried "select a network"...and Rogers Wireless was my only option...
could it be my radio version? should i downgrade it back to the old t-mo radio?
it came up with Fido on the list when i was adding preferred networks...so i have no clue...
any ideas?
ROM: 1.33.422.1
Radio: 4.1.13.51_03.07.90
p.s. getting those sdhc cards going with the new rom made me soooo happy....illll
-paul
The two networks are combined. There is no 'Fido' network anymore, they're one in the same. My phones, both Fido and unlocked, have said Rogers Wireless for years now, since the buyout.
Your previous ROM must have read the network descriptor from the SIM card, whereas the HTC ROM is reading it from the network.
Go ahead and use your phone, it's not roaming.
thanks for the knowledge bomb dude! ive been afraid of answering my phone all day! ahah

Tilt 2 (AT&T) on Bell (Roaming)

So yeah, where I live should not be roaming on Bell's network.
I unlocked a Tilt 2, I am using a Bell sim. I have been able to send/receive texts, voice etc.
However, every time I try to make a data connection it says I am roaming.
I am relatively new to smartphones and unlocking. Could it be that I did not properly unlock the phone (or if I didnt would that prevent me from using Bell's network period?) or is there something stupid I am doing?
Or do I just have to call Bell and get them to straighten their crap out?
I have the same problem Here. Tilt 2 on Bell Network. As I can understand from my search, this is due to the Radio Rom that does not have Bell SIM info as local provider. We probably need to MOD our RADIO to accept bell as local carier
maybe people can help us ?
Thank you
Ok, I've just try with a friend ROGERS SIM card and the phone doesn't roam. Yeah! mabe I found some Q for master people that can help me.
I was on Rogers 3G network without probleme and I found that rogers use same band then Bell 850/1900
so why my phone lookup for rogers and not bell ?

[Q] do I need to flash my radio to use TP2 abroad?

Hi there,
I'm totally confused as to what I need to do to get my Touch Pro 2 (currently activated on Boost CDMA) to work abroad, specifically Canada.
It is flashed with Energy ROM, Reference version.
Do I need to do a Radio flash? Do I need to tweak some settings? Both? Neither?
I'm going to be in Canada for 3 weeks and plan to use either Rogers or Fido's GSM Pay as You Go (already have the SIM cards), or Telus's CDMA Pay as You Go.
I've read the FAQs and generally understand that this is possible -- just not clear the route.
Thanks,
Simmy
The biggest problem with Canada is our carriers don't want people coming in and using their networks without paying for it, and that usually means your first born here.
The hardware problem is, the TP2 will not work on the frequencies in Canada that Telus has used for the HSPA / 4G network. And using the current CDMA network is not possible either because Telus and Bell will not allow you to put branded phones from other companies on the old network and CDMA systems don't use SIM cards. So if your planning on bringing the TP2 up here I think you may be out of luck.
I took the TP2 to Ireland and was able to use the frequencies there on the O2 network, but to do that I had to unlock the phone and as i have the "world edition" with the SIM card slot once unlocked it worked over there no issue, and returned working over here with no SIM card in it. But again this is a frequency issue and telus tells us it won't work.
Now if when you get here, and you plug a sim card in and it does work, please share, because it means we can manually add frequencies and hook to both the old and new network. And some of us with the original unlimited data contracts (no 10 gig cap) would be really happy to know this.
As for Rogers, i can't tell you. I don't know if they have ever had the TP2 and have no clue what frequency they are using for their phones, though i'm sure it's similar.
Flashing the radio does nothing to add radios or affect your ability to connect to the network while abroad. Its usually just done to improve reception and/or battery life.
You will need your phone SIM unlocked. Then, as the post above suggests, either putting in the SIM works, or it doesn't.
Thanks to both of you for your reply.
So the TP2 won't work on any Canadian CDMA networks, but since it also has GSM, if I stick a Rogers or Fido SIM card in it, it *may* work. In fact, I believe it *should* work. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
And thanks for answering my question re: radio ROMs, Redpoint -- that's what I thought, but was still confused about.
So, with respect to unlocking, is the Olipro page that charges 11 pounds / 14 euros / $20 my best/cheapest option? (unfortunately, i can't link to it here because I'm a new member)
Thank muchly,
Simmy
The device should have no trouble connecting to a normal GSM network in Canada. The Canadian GSM networks use the GSM-1900 and GSM-850 bands. The CDMA Rhodiums use a quad band frequency that spans all of 850/900/1800/1900 MHz channels. You should have no problems in Canada. Enjoy your trip.
You do not need to flash a new radio to have it work in Canada.

[Q] Will this work in the UK?

If I import a T-Mobile G2 from the US that is SIM unlocked, does it have the correct radio bands to work with 3G on UK networks, specifically T-Mobile UK? Providing I enter the correct APN settings, of course.
In case anyone else was wondering about this, I just sent an email to a friend who works at HTC asking him about this, and he confirmed that even though the radio bands differ slightly between the G2 and the Desire Z, an American SIM-unlocked G2 would indeed work on UK 3G networks with the right APN settings.
Mods, you can go ahead and close this thread if you need to since I have my answer.

[Q] LG-P930 Optimus LTE can't get AT&T LTE connectivity?

I've spent most of yesterday and today trying to get LTE on Bell Mobility's version of the Nitro. APN configuration, SIM card, account provisioning have all been taken care of yet the phone cannot connect to LTE. Is there something I'm missing? H+ is hooking up fine but LTE is non-existent. I've been in touch with Bell and AT&T's tech support, customer service. mlee1999 (prior owner who was able to get LTE) has also been kind enough to try and help me out with this.
Thoughts anyone?
My only guess is that Bell and Rogers are using AWS 1700 MHz for their LTE networks. AT&T is using 700 MHz and thus is not compatible or 700 MHz is not enabled by default.
LiViD is correct about the frequencies but the Optimus LTE has 700 and 1700 turned on.
There is something else I went through with my Optimus LTE:
When i got my phone, my SIM was an LTE SIM, my Optimus LTE was an LTE handset, and my account was provisioned to a 1GB Data plan, but by some fluke, Bell only allows LTE on the $70+ 6GB plans and no other. I upgraded to the 6GB plan and rebooted my handset and presto! LTE came up.
One other thing is, are you in a LTE area or a fringe zone? might sound like a stupid question, i know.
Oh, and did you call AT&T to add this phone to the account, or just throw in your LTE SIM card?? Most carriers now require you to give them the ESN for LTE handsets to be activated on the LTE network.
Could I request you check my post out please? If you could help we'd be most appreciative!!
All provisioning on my account was confirmed with ATT. I also had them check ATT LTE in my area and they confirmed I should be able to get it.
Love to help you with the other thread but I've never pulled those files. Some brief instructions via PM and I'll give it a try.
Sent from my LG-P930 using XDA App
Silly question: can you post the LTE APN settings you have please?
repherb said:
Silly question: can you post the LTE APN settings you have please?
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APN Name: ATT PTA
APN: pta
MMSC: http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
MMS proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net
MMS port: 80
APN type: default,mms,supl,hipri
Everything else was left blank or with the default info.
i wonder if this will help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360116
or this:
http://www.traemcneely.com/2011/12/...rottle-4g-data-anti-throttling-trick-for-att/
Seen the first link and it didn't work. Just tried the second link and it caused a FC when trying to connect.
I just got off the phone with AT&T and they can't do anything with an unlocked device. They did look into to it to see if they could assist but since it's not a branded device, they couldn't do much. The tech did say that she could not see APN settings on her side which leads me to believe that without it being set I will not see LTE. As a little bit of background, I'm coming from an iPhone and have switched directly to the Optimus LTE. I had to go thru all the changing/updating and provisioning of my account and even replaced the SIM card all to no avail.
You'll probably have to wait for either a Radio ROM to be released or for someone to unlock the 700 MHz frequency within the factory OS ROM itself.
Not so sure about that since mlee1999 was able to get an LTE connection. Only difference is he was not coming from an iPhone.
Sent from my LG-P930 using XDA App
cman6453,
You could try flashing the Nitro baseband to your phone and see if that does the trick. Make sure to back yours up first (and make sure mmcblk0p14 is, in fact, your baseband firmware partition).
Sent from my LG-P930 using xda premium
Was there any evidence provided from mlee1999 saying that he was connected via LTE and not HSPA+? Something sounds questionable about that. If AT&T is using 700 MHz and Bell is using AWS 1700 MHz, that Bell phone would not work on AT&T's LTE network. Sure the device can be unlocked, but that won't unlock the baseband frequencies.
Well, i can assure you now that the 700Mhz band is operational with AT&T via this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
These settings are confirmed to access the AT&T LTE Network:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416689
also found this, if it helps:
http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=35078&cv=820#fbid=KTYJmxElqKy
and this post shows a user accessing the LTE via another AT&T APN setting for cingular:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...rs-slow-data-speeds-correct-apn-settings.html
I personally doubt that the phone is the problem (aside from the APN settings), I am leaning towards the carrier being the problem on this one (either APN issues or something on their backend).
I will keep hunting to try and help you.
I went out today and added a second line to my account. I even picked up a Nitro (going back tomorrow) to do more "research". As soon as I got home, I switched the Nitro SIM to the Optimus. No LTE. As a matter of fact, no data at all. As soon as I switched the Nitro SIM back into the Nitro all was fine and dandy.
My goal for this exercise was to be able to switch, EASILY, between an iPhone 4S and an LTE device. Well, doesn't look like that's going to happen. Even if I got the LTE to work switching back and forth would be too much work given how randomly I switch between devices.
So I've pretty much exhausted this experiment. Thanks to all that put in there 2 cents!!
Rep - I also think it's something on their backend that's preventing LTE from lighting up. I originally thought, put the microsim in an adapter, pop it into the LTE capable device and off I go...BUT noooooooo, 3 days of pecking and hunting and big brother beats me...DAMMIT! I'll live to fight another day!!
When I first tried LTE phone I also didn't have internet at all (though as phone it worked fine), I had to call ATT to activate my sim card on their end.
Quick summary of the steps I went thru to try and get the Optimus to connect to AT&T LTE.
1. Confirmed I was in an LTE area.
2. Changed my AT&T plan to an LTE data plan.
3. Confirmed APN settings on it were the same as that found on the Nitro.
4. Changed my SIM to a "70357" SIM. That's the SKU for the SIM that they're using on their LTE devices. I checked the Nitro that I purchased and VOILA, same type SIM.
5. Confirmed my new AT&T plan was associated to the IMEI for the Optimus.
When I swapped the SIM from the Nitro, I thought I was finally going to be in LTE heaven. Nope. Not a chance but I do have a good idea on what the problem is/was.
The Nitro's IMEI was associated with that specific SIM. I went thru this process when I initially changed my plan to accomodate the Optimus. The CSR asked for the IMEI AND the UICC from the SIM. Apparently AT&T's system doesn't recognize the Optimus' IMEI. The CSR mentioned that but was able to leave the IMEI as-is. I confirmed the IMEI was not recognized by going into an AT&T store and a CSR there noticed that my account was using a "regular" GSM phone when I asked about no LTE on the Optimus.
SO.....what I'm thinking was that since the Nitro's SIM was associated with the Nitro, when I placed it into the Optimus AT&T's system noticed the UICC of the SIM was not associated to the appropriate IMEI so it was denied access to LTE. Vice-versa with my original SIM when I placed that into the Nitro. As soon as I returned the SIM's to their usual devices, LTE returned for the Nitro. WHEW!!
Moral of the story: iPhone and LTE devices, at the moment, take a lot of work to swap out regularly. So, for now, I'll be sticking with H+ devices and going along my merry way.
In case anyone was still curious, here is the definitive answer on the Optimus LTE's AT&T LTE connectivity! I am on vacation back home visiting family in Illinois, and decided to bring my Optimus LTE along for the trip, to see if I got LTE in Chicago. The line is provisioned with LTE data, and has an LTE compatible SIM.
This makes me happy, because that means now I can import other devices with the 700Mhz or 1700Mhz LTE bands and be able to use them on AT&T's network!

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