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Telus HSPA network and the TP2

So I got a friend who has a new iPhone GS on the Telus network to let me try his SIM in my Touch Pro2 (also Telus but unlocked) with the thought that I might be able to try connecting to the new Telus HSPA network. Well it did not detect a network at all when I forced it to GSM which was not the case when I tried my daughters SIM from her iPhone on Fido (Rogers). That time it immediately found the Rogers network although I was unable to access their HSPA either. So I guess it is clear that the new Telus Netork is pure HSPA with no support for standard GSM and the TP2 clearly lacks the ability to connect to the new HSPA network. Now the question remains does it lack the hardware to connect or is it locked out by software? Any thoughts on how we can find the answer?

Tilt 2 (AT&T) on Bell (Roaming)

So yeah, where I live should not be roaming on Bell's network.
I unlocked a Tilt 2, I am using a Bell sim. I have been able to send/receive texts, voice etc.
However, every time I try to make a data connection it says I am roaming.
I am relatively new to smartphones and unlocking. Could it be that I did not properly unlock the phone (or if I didnt would that prevent me from using Bell's network period?) or is there something stupid I am doing?
Or do I just have to call Bell and get them to straighten their crap out?

I have the same problem Here. Tilt 2 on Bell Network. As I can understand from my search, this is due to the Radio Rom that does not have Bell SIM info as local provider. We probably need to MOD our RADIO to accept bell as local carier
maybe people can help us ?
Thank you

Ok, I've just try with a friend ROGERS SIM card and the phone doesn't roam. Yeah! mabe I found some Q for master people that can help me.
I was on Rogers 3G network without probleme and I found that rogers use same band then Bell 850/1900
so why my phone lookup for rogers and not bell ?

[Q] Which Desire on Fido (Toronto)

Hey,
I've spent forever trying to figure out which Desire model (A8181/82/83) will work best for 3g on Fido, but the info I get is confusing.
Can someone comment who actually uses the Desire on Fido in Toronto or knows for sure what frequencies Fido uses here?
I've seen people say in this forum that the A8183 (Australia) works for them. The A8183 works on 850/2100. That seems to work since Fido is listed as using 850/2100 (not allowed to post links yet: gsmworld . com / roaming / gsminfo / cou_ca.shtml).
BUT, I keep reading that Fido uses Rogers' network, which apparently uses 850/1900 (that would be the European(?) A8182.)
I'm looking into buying from Telus, they list HSPA as 850/1900.
So,
1. What frequencies does Fido use, and does it differ between locations/cities?
2. Can Fido users use the Rogers network?
3. Is the Telus phone ok for Fido? (Let's forget for a moment that they're out of stock and that BB has dropped the $449/no contract offer for it from their website )
4. Is it enough to have one of the supported frequencies? I read that networks may use one for upload and the other one for download only.
Thanks much!
j

I am using an unlocked Telus Desire on Fido and it works great. Telus uses the same 3G bands as Rogers/Fido (850/1900) so 3G will work. I got mine without contract from Futureshop last week. Best buy refused to sell it without contract. I rooted it and installed LeeDroid 1.9 and so far I'm loving it. My only problem is I cannot get mms to work for some reason.

Have you tried maually inputting APN settings on your Desire. I have and MMS works great on Rogers. Desire8183 from Aus.

Thanks guys. Still confused why different models should all work But hey, as long as it does... Gonna take the plunge asap.

I got mine, unbrand A8181, from UK. It works well with Fido but won't work for Rogers.

d.stayus said:
I am using an unlocked Telus Desire on Fido and it works great. Telus uses the same 3G bands as Rogers/Fido (850/1900) so 3G will work. I got mine without contract from Futureshop last week. Best buy refused to sell it without contract. I rooted it and installed LeeDroid 1.9 and so far I'm loving it. My only problem is I cannot get mms to work for some reason.
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Hi there, I have a Telus HTC Desire and unlocked it so it works with my Fido SIM card (e.g. can make phone calls). But, I haven't been able to get GPRS/Edge and 3G working for me. Would you mind sharing your APN settings?
Also, do you have your "Network mode" in "GSM only" or in "GSM / WCDMA auto"? Do you need "Data roaming" on for GPRS/Edge/3G to work?
I have an iPhone 3Gs and have GPRS/Edge/3G working perfectly there. I am using the same Fido SIM card now on the HTC Desire.
Thank you in advance, any assistance would greatly be appreciated!

sherwinchu said:
I turned on "Data Roaming". Didn't work. =( I also tried switching "Network Mode" to "WCDMA only". No luck still.
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I finally found the culprit -- my Fido SIM card. It's very unusual. I got the SIM card just March this year from Fido, and it works well with GPRS/Edge/3G when placed back in my iPhone 3Gs....but is totally crippled on my HTC Desire, except for voice.
I went to a cellphone store for help. The tech guy used his Fido SIM card on my HTC Desire and GPRS/Edge/3G worked fine. So, I just bought a new Fido SIM card from the store, and they helped me activate it. In 15 minutes, I finally got my HTC Desire working with GPRS/Edge/3G.
The APN settings I used were:
Name: fido internet
APN: internet.fido.ca
Username: fido
Password: fido
APN type: default

First of all, the desire you want is the 8183 if you want full functionality. The TELUS units will potentially work if unlocked but data will be crippled as they are built for different network types (cdma vs 3g). I am using a Telstra unit from Australia on Fido as it is the only one produced that matches all specs for use on Rogers/Fido or AT&T. To my knowledge, HTC has not released and unbranded/unlocked unit.
On another note, not sure why that guy said that something would work on Fido but not on Rogers as they are the same network.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

You are wrong TELUS is gsm only now so 3g bands are the same as Rogers, just have to change settings ..
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

[Q] do I need to flash my radio to use TP2 abroad?

Hi there,
I'm totally confused as to what I need to do to get my Touch Pro 2 (currently activated on Boost CDMA) to work abroad, specifically Canada.
It is flashed with Energy ROM, Reference version.
Do I need to do a Radio flash? Do I need to tweak some settings? Both? Neither?
I'm going to be in Canada for 3 weeks and plan to use either Rogers or Fido's GSM Pay as You Go (already have the SIM cards), or Telus's CDMA Pay as You Go.
I've read the FAQs and generally understand that this is possible -- just not clear the route.
Thanks,
Simmy

The biggest problem with Canada is our carriers don't want people coming in and using their networks without paying for it, and that usually means your first born here.
The hardware problem is, the TP2 will not work on the frequencies in Canada that Telus has used for the HSPA / 4G network. And using the current CDMA network is not possible either because Telus and Bell will not allow you to put branded phones from other companies on the old network and CDMA systems don't use SIM cards. So if your planning on bringing the TP2 up here I think you may be out of luck.
I took the TP2 to Ireland and was able to use the frequencies there on the O2 network, but to do that I had to unlock the phone and as i have the "world edition" with the SIM card slot once unlocked it worked over there no issue, and returned working over here with no SIM card in it. But again this is a frequency issue and telus tells us it won't work.
Now if when you get here, and you plug a sim card in and it does work, please share, because it means we can manually add frequencies and hook to both the old and new network. And some of us with the original unlimited data contracts (no 10 gig cap) would be really happy to know this.
As for Rogers, i can't tell you. I don't know if they have ever had the TP2 and have no clue what frequency they are using for their phones, though i'm sure it's similar.

Flashing the radio does nothing to add radios or affect your ability to connect to the network while abroad. Its usually just done to improve reception and/or battery life.
You will need your phone SIM unlocked. Then, as the post above suggests, either putting in the SIM works, or it doesn't.

Thanks to both of you for your reply.
So the TP2 won't work on any Canadian CDMA networks, but since it also has GSM, if I stick a Rogers or Fido SIM card in it, it *may* work. In fact, I believe it *should* work. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
And thanks for answering my question re: radio ROMs, Redpoint -- that's what I thought, but was still confused about.
So, with respect to unlocking, is the Olipro page that charges 11 pounds / 14 euros / $20 my best/cheapest option? (unfortunately, i can't link to it here because I'm a new member)
Thank muchly,
Simmy

The device should have no trouble connecting to a normal GSM network in Canada. The Canadian GSM networks use the GSM-1900 and GSM-850 bands. The CDMA Rhodiums use a quad band frequency that spans all of 850/900/1800/1900 MHz channels. You should have no problems in Canada. Enjoy your trip.
You do not need to flash a new radio to have it work in Canada.

[Q] Videotron - Rogers roaming issue

Hi,
After searching hours online for a solution, I decided to ask you for help.
I have a SGS3 T999V with cyanogenmod 10.1 on videotron, locked.
Videotron and Rogers are roaming partners.
When out of Videotron's range, my phone is supposed to go on Rogers partenaire network. It wouldn't do it by itself recently and I had to manually select the network and change it. After I did, I was online on Rogers with EDGE data connection. Back to Videotron coverage zone, I was still in roaming, searched for networks again and couldn't find Videotron network nor Wind (nor any other AWS band network)... all I could see was Rogers Wireless (X2) and Telus and Bell. On one of the Rogers networks on the list I had EDGE data and the other HSPA+ data.
I don't know it Videotron and Rogers roaming agreement supports V customers using HSPA+ on R, but it seems the phone is able to do it.
I decided to flash Videotron stock firmware back and was still stuck in roaming until I applied the VLDLL1 update. Then only could I see AWS network again, but had the problem again going on Rogers from stock ROM.
I downloaded data and made calls on both Rogers networks (EDGE and HSPA+) and didn't get billed for them.
Kinda lost here...
If anyone had an idea or experienced the same issue......
Thanks!!

I'm having the same issue, I've been looking for an answer for an hour now, but nothing's there. I'm trying to use my old Rogers phone on the Videotron network, and flashed a new rom in place. (It was sim unlocked in the past)
I'm trying to figure out how to switch it over to Videotron, cause I can't get data.