Hi there,
I'm totally confused as to what I need to do to get my Touch Pro 2 (currently activated on Boost CDMA) to work abroad, specifically Canada.
It is flashed with Energy ROM, Reference version.
Do I need to do a Radio flash? Do I need to tweak some settings? Both? Neither?
I'm going to be in Canada for 3 weeks and plan to use either Rogers or Fido's GSM Pay as You Go (already have the SIM cards), or Telus's CDMA Pay as You Go.
I've read the FAQs and generally understand that this is possible -- just not clear the route.
Thanks,
Simmy
The biggest problem with Canada is our carriers don't want people coming in and using their networks without paying for it, and that usually means your first born here.
The hardware problem is, the TP2 will not work on the frequencies in Canada that Telus has used for the HSPA / 4G network. And using the current CDMA network is not possible either because Telus and Bell will not allow you to put branded phones from other companies on the old network and CDMA systems don't use SIM cards. So if your planning on bringing the TP2 up here I think you may be out of luck.
I took the TP2 to Ireland and was able to use the frequencies there on the O2 network, but to do that I had to unlock the phone and as i have the "world edition" with the SIM card slot once unlocked it worked over there no issue, and returned working over here with no SIM card in it. But again this is a frequency issue and telus tells us it won't work.
Now if when you get here, and you plug a sim card in and it does work, please share, because it means we can manually add frequencies and hook to both the old and new network. And some of us with the original unlimited data contracts (no 10 gig cap) would be really happy to know this.
As for Rogers, i can't tell you. I don't know if they have ever had the TP2 and have no clue what frequency they are using for their phones, though i'm sure it's similar.
Flashing the radio does nothing to add radios or affect your ability to connect to the network while abroad. Its usually just done to improve reception and/or battery life.
You will need your phone SIM unlocked. Then, as the post above suggests, either putting in the SIM works, or it doesn't.
Thanks to both of you for your reply.
So the TP2 won't work on any Canadian CDMA networks, but since it also has GSM, if I stick a Rogers or Fido SIM card in it, it *may* work. In fact, I believe it *should* work. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
And thanks for answering my question re: radio ROMs, Redpoint -- that's what I thought, but was still confused about.
So, with respect to unlocking, is the Olipro page that charges 11 pounds / 14 euros / $20 my best/cheapest option? (unfortunately, i can't link to it here because I'm a new member)
Thank muchly,
Simmy
The device should have no trouble connecting to a normal GSM network in Canada. The Canadian GSM networks use the GSM-1900 and GSM-850 bands. The CDMA Rhodiums use a quad band frequency that spans all of 850/900/1800/1900 MHz channels. You should have no problems in Canada. Enjoy your trip.
You do not need to flash a new radio to have it work in Canada.
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Hi I am form New Zealand and I am thinking of getting a HTC Diamond.
Now New Zealand telecom uses the WCDMA network, and I suspect the phone will be CID locked as well.
A good friend of mine has a diamond from Germany which he has flashed several times (Radio+Roms) (he is using Vodafone in New Zealand, which is GSM)
I would like to know if I can follow the normal steps that I would do on a GSM phone on a CDMA phone. Which would be: HardSPL (e.g. Olinex 1.4)-> flash Radio or ROM.
What do I need to look out for, are there special HardSPL versions or ROMS available, or can I use any ROM or Radio?
in my defence, I really tried to find informaion here ono what to do with a CDMA phone but I couldn't find any helpful threads.
So please help me out or send me links for more information.
Thanks a lot
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Hi I am form New Zealand and I am thinking of getting a HTC Diamond.
Now New Zealand telecom uses the WCDMA network, and I suspect the phone will be CID locked as well.
A good friend of mine has a diamond from Germany which he has flashed several times (Radio+Roms) (he is using Vodafone in New Zealand, which is GSM)
I would like to know if I can follow the normal steps that I would do on a GSM phone on a CDMA phone. Which would be: HardSPL (e.g. Olinex 1.4)-> flash Radio or ROM.
What do I need to look out for, are there special HardSPL versions or ROMS available, or can I use any ROM or Radio?
in my defence, I really tried to find informaion here ono what to do with a CDMA phone but I couldn't find any helpful threads.
So please help me out or send me links for more information.
Thanks a lot
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Although there are many APPs that can be used here on this forum for CDMA, Radio's, Roms & Hard SPL's require you to visit ....HERE
band27 is right, ppcgeeks is the best place to go for you HTC CDMA needs.
Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll check that site out.
Do you reckon it would be impossible to put a rom listed in this forum onto a CDMA phone. E.g. Shaks v4.0? Since my friend strongly recommends that and he doesn't know anything about specific CDMA ROMs. It just seems that it can be a lengthy path till you find the right ROM
How can I tell in advance whether an app will work or not?
konrad.schafers said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll check that site out.
Do you reckon it would be impossible to put a rom listed in this forum onto a CDMA phone. E.g. Shaks v4.0? Since my friend strongly recommends that and he doesn't know anything about specific CDMA ROMs. It just seems that it can be a lengthy path till you find the right ROM
How can I tell in advance whether an app will work or not?
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ABSOLUTELY NOT regarding ROM's....you will brick your device. Most APPs are fine though.
GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U R ABOUT TO MAKE THIS GUY BRICK HIS PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
using WCDMA doesnt mean that ur phone is cdma!!!!!
wcdma is a coverage by the gsm if i am not mistaken.
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band27 is right, ppcgeeks is the best place to go for you HTC CDMA needs.
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dude,make ur own research
dont flash anything until u talked to ur phone company n asked them if ur phn is cdma or gsm
from what i know , wcdma is a coverage of gsm.
wcdma and cdma is not the same thing or network
I am still not clear even after reading an article on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCDMA
maybe this is a better wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System
maybe some experts can comment on this.
@konrad.schafers, you should NOT PERFORM ANY FLASH until you are sure which category your Diamond is.
deeren said:
dude,make ur own research
dont flash anything until u talked to ur phone company n asked them if ur phn is cdma or gsm
from what i know , wcdma is a coverage of gsm.
wcdma and cdma is not the same thing or network
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For the love of God, calling your phone provider to inquire whether your device is GSM or CDMA is not necessary.
Simply open the backing to your device and check if you have a SIM card.
SIM Card = GSM
No Sim Card = CDMA
In New Zealand Telecom has always had CDMA (no SIM), after Vodafone introduced 3G they will introduce W-CDMA (the way I see it it is a hybrid between GSM-UMTS and CDMA.
Here is the quote from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom_New_Zealand)
On the 8 June 2007, Telecom announced a plan to build a hybrid W-CDMA/UMTS-CDMA network [14], based on the WCDMA HSPA technology, to replace its current CDMA EV-DO network. The network is planned to go online in June 2009 [15] running at 850 MHz with some 3G 2100 MHz for extra coverage in urban areas. Telstra's Next G (in Australia) and AT&T Wireless also have networks running on 850 MHz, which can cover greater geographic distances and penetrate buildings more effectively than higher frequencies. Current CDMA phones are guaranteed by Telecom to work until at least June 2012. The Telecom UMTS network is planned to have no GSM coverage, no roaming coverage for 2G phones. Foreign 850MHz (North American) and 2100MHz (European) UMTS handsets can roam to this network.
I really have to talk to someone from telecom directly. It looks like flashing either a CDMA rom or a GSM rom is dangerous
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For the love of God, calling your phone provider to inquire whether your device is GSM or CDMA is not necessary.
Simply open the backing to your device and check if you have a SIM card.
SIM Card = GSM
No Sim Card = CDMA
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dude, there are cdma companies that make use of sim card too.!
deeren said:
dude, there are cdma companies that make use of sim card too.!
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Stay on topiic here....we are not talking about other companies. We are talking about the HTC Diamond....lol
None of these devices are dual compatible. However HTC is coming up with a product that will be introduced in the 2009 lineup. Off the top of my head...don't recall.
konrad.schafers said:
In New Zealand Telecom has always had CDMA (no SIM), after Vodafone introduced 3G they will introduce W-CDMA (the way I see it it is a hybrid between GSM-UMTS and CDMA.
Here is the quote from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom_New_Zealand)
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You are right, the W-CDMA allows for CDMA devices the ability to use the 3G signals. Prior to this, CDMA devices were not 3G compatible.
I really have to talk to someone from telecom directly. It looks like flashing either a CDMA rom or a GSM rom is dangerous
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Calling your provider might lead to voiding the warranty of this product. If you follow instructions as per the Wiki's and reading lots of threads, like the rest of us on this forum, your experience here will be with out a doubt, a very positive one. Millions of us flashers have crossed that line and can speak to this that although at first we were all hesitate, we are glad we did..!!
Flashing is Not for Everyone! Fear determines this....
Good Luck in what ever choices you make....If you decide to cross that line then all your Radio and ROM needs can be found over at PPCgeek.coml.........Don't forget to Hard SPL first!!
If this helps
WCDMA is base on GSM technology
CDMA was developed by Qualcomm in the United States and is the dominant network in the USA- if this helps?
Please post what Current ROM, Radio your device has.
I haven't got one yet. I was checking out the possibilities of flashing etc. They'll only launch WCDMA in June over here. Yes they are quite backwards in NZ. no full 3G by the major provider (Vodafone has had it for while).
Or even worse the broadband over here!!! You Pay per GB, around $1NZD (~55 USc) per Gigabyte (plus $50NZD base charge) and that's by far the cheapest here. Ususally they charge you something like $50NZD per month for a Gigabyte of data usage and limited bandwidth. Maximum bandwidth on which they charge you heavily is maybe 6MB if you're lucky
I used to live in germany! This is driving me mad
a bit of topic but...
Germany is one of the best places for cheap charges and bandwidth for Broadband in Europe . Nz charges base charge is similar in the UK
Seems strange as Nz was clearing money cheques (remember these) the next day back in 1976 while the UK still takes 3-5 working days.
Me personally i flashed cdma rom into gsm diamond and it didnt get broken, it just did not boot up, so i had to flash again from bootloader but no one wants to experience such a story :-D
I bought HTC PRO2 (RHOD500) from Telus. I just noticed that it does not work on fido 3G network. GSM is fine.
If the Hard-SPL for world phone is released, can I use 3G fido network at that time?
Thanks
You can pay to get it sim unlocked now and it will work. Search for tmobile unlock on ebay. I am on Telus and it works perfect.
leanne said:
You can pay to get it sim unlocked now and it will work. Search for tmobile unlock on ebay. I am on Telus and it works perfect.
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I knew that, and my phone has been unlocked. I can make phone call without any problem.
However, I can not use it with fido 3G network.
It does not work at all
Hey,
I don’t think its the phone . I have seen this issue many times in the past All your data settings are still set up for TELUS and the CDMA network, It’s not as simple as just unlocking the SIM card to get the data to work you have to go in an re-program the phone. I would suggest finding the Data setting on a Windows mobile device Fido has and just copying those into you Touch Pro 2. (you will most likely need to do this by hand)
Can’t promise it will work as I know some Carriers have certain fields added and removed to fit their needs which messes up the phone when you unlock it to use on other networks.
Wait!!
does this mean the RHOD500 has GSM and CDMA??
--- Does this mean?
1. Buy Telus TP2
2. Unlock
3. Switch to Fido/Rogers
4. Flash 6.1 GSM rom
5. Use 3g?
I think the issue here is that the Telus TP2 has had the 850/1900MHz UMTS bands disabled for some retarded reason. (Seems especially retarded seeing as how they are rolling out a UMTS network running on those bands in a couple of months).
There is speculation that the bands physically exist on the Telus TP2 but they have been software disabled. The other possibility is that the hardware is not physically present to utilize the 850/1900MHz bands that Fido/Rogers use for their 3G data and that the Telus TP2 will never work on their 3G networks (as well as its own upcoming one) but I think that would be a seriously regretful move on Telus' part.
The spec sheet for the MSM7600 indicates that the phone may or may not be capable of using the 850/1900MHz bands, but according to HTC and Telus' specifications it definitely is able to use the 2100MHz bands (which makes zero sense in Canada since nobody will be using those bands for a long time).
Rick#2 said:
I think the issue here is that the Telus TP2 has had the 850/1900MHz UMTS bands disabled for some retarded reason. (Seems especially retarded seeing as how they are rolling out a UMTS network running on those bands in a couple of months).
There is speculation that the bands physically exist on the Telus TP2 but they have been software disabled. The other possibility is that the hardware is not physically present to utilize the 850/1900MHz bands that Fido/Rogers use for their 3G data and that the Telus TP2 will never work on their 3G networks (as well as its own upcoming one) but I think that would be a seriously regretful move on Telus' part.
The spec sheet for the MSM7600 indicates that the phone may or may not be capable of using the 850/1900MHz bands, but according to HTC and Telus' specifications it definitely is able to use the 2100MHz bands (which makes zero sense in Canada since nobody will be using those bands for a long time).
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This isn't extremely helpful, but
http://web.archive.org/web/20071025232258/www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm7600_chipset.pdf
according to that (if I'm reading right) there has to be at least 1 other UMTS band, no configuration is ONLY 2100MHz (the chipset that does only that doesnt do the 1900MHz PCS band for CDMA). But really, I'm pretty much guessing.
Hi I am using the unlocked Telus version on Fido. It's true that you can't use 3G because the phone does not support the required bands. But I still use EDGE. It's slower but better than nothing. Create a new connection and name it Fido. APN is : internet.fido.ca
Username: fido
PW: fido
Hope this helps.
https://www.telusmobility.com/en/QC/htc_touchpro2_t7379/index.shtml
Go to this site, click on the Details button and you'll see that the TP2 supports all of the above mentioned Bands. The bands are all software locked and once Telus initializes the new network (along with WinMo 6.5) they will offer the firmware upgrade to open ALL the GSM bands. It'll just be the question of unlocking the simlock on the device!
wraith79 said:
https://www.telusmobility.com/en/QC/htc_touchpro2_t7379/index.shtml
Go to this site, click on the Details button and you'll see that the TP2 supports all of the above mentioned Bands. The bands are all software locked and once Telus initializes the new network (along with WinMo 6.5) they will offer the firmware upgrade to open ALL the GSM bands. It'll just be the question of unlocking the simlock on the device!
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I think that maybe you are confusing GSM bands with the UMTS/HSPA bands.
There's a big difference between the GSM/Edge bands and WCDMA/UMTS.
I have been following the subject and there`s no concrete evidence that the 850/1900 WCDMA/UMTS bands are only software.
Where the hell did you get your firmware upgrade information? I've only seen this info given as pure speculation!
If the TouchPro 1 is any indication, the phone might be missing some key components to make it work. In the case of the TP1 it was the amplifier that was missing so it couldn't work even chipset and everything could support it.
(see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420865&page=40)
So while it's possible, until someone does a teardown of the phone and we see all the required component it's simply not possible to say that 3G on a GSM network is possible.
The ONLY indication I have seen that it might support 850/1900 HSPA network is the fact that telus stated that the Tour and Storm will not work on the HSPA network. They failed to mention the TP2 so maybe we can read between the lines:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/16/t...be-compatible-with-the-canadian-hspa-network/
Axeslocked said:
Wait!!
does this mean the RHOD500 has GSM and CDMA??
--- Does this mean?
1. Buy Telus TP2
2. Unlock
3. Switch to Fido/Rogers
4. Flash 6.1 GSM rom
5. Use 3g?
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Oh and please never flash a GSM rom on a CDMA / World phone!
labbbby said:
Oh and please never flash a GSM rom on a CDMA / World phone!
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lol.. I second that
UMTS Bands
labbbby said:
I think that maybe you are confusing GSM bands with the UMTS/HSPA bands.
There's a big difference between the GSM/Edge bands and WCDMA/UMTS.
I have been following the subject and there`s no concrete evidence that the 850/1900 WCDMA/UMTS bands are only software.
Where the hell did you get your firmware upgrade information? I've only seen this info given as pure speculation!
If the TouchPro 1 is any indication, the phone might be missing some key components to make it work. In the case of the TP1 it was the amplifier that was missing so it couldn't work even chipset and everything could support it.
(see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420865&page=40)
So while it's possible, until someone does a teardown of the phone and we see all the required component it's simply not possible to say that 3G on a GSM network is possible.
The ONLY indication I have seen that it might support 850/1900 HSPA network is the fact that telus stated that the Tour and Storm will not work on the HSPA network. They failed to mention the TP2 so maybe we can read between the lines:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/16/t...be-compatible-with-the-canadian-hspa-network/
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I have been following this debate on multiple forums.
Based on some information from RileyFreeman, I do think Telus will enable the TouchPro2 for new HSPA network.
Granted, today, you can unlock and use on Rogers, Fido or ATT networks using EDGE, it would be a real poor move for Telus to not have an upgrade path to HSPA.
This is Telus's non Blackberry flagship business device, today, Telus has Enterprise customers testing the HSPA network (likely either PC cards or USB modems). Once HTC releases Windows Mobile 6.5, this would be an ideal time to upgrade the radio's and unlock the 850/1900 UMTS bands.
I can see the 850/1900 bands today, not 100% if they are actually there, also wondering if Telus is also waiting for ATT to release TP2 so ATT can test ROM, Sprint nor Verizon would not have any need to do any regression testing on ROM that supports UMTS bands. Tell tale sign will be if ATT TP2 has same chipset as Telus TP2.
I am crossing my fingers that TP2 will support Telus Canadian SIM.
I agree with you points. By seing the bands you mean in windows mobile band selction settings? If so these are always there.
I highly doubt ATT will use the same chipset as Telus since they use the MSM7600 to support both GSM and CDMA. ATT as no need for CDMA.
Also to support my claim:
ATT is RHOD300 device.
I think Telus is RHOD500 and Sprint is RHOD400 (can't find this info but I know 400/500 are both world phone, so it might be the opposit or something)
Different RHODXXX indicates differents innards.
Bottom line I want a TP2 with 3G on Fido so Im crossing my finders too!
Edit:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/atandts-htc-touch-pro2-hits-the-fcc/
So that's Rhodium 100 for T-Mobile, 400/500 for Sprint and Verizon (or vice-versa) and 300 for AT&T
Noob mistake on my part I think the Rhodium XXX is FCC ...so why did I think Telus was in there =\
Sprint is RHOD400, Verizon and Telus both are RHOD500.
Exactly what cellular radios does this phone [Telus TP2] have?
My carrier [Telus] has recently completed their 3G overlay, and I'm still showing "EV".
Should I be talking to them about fixing this, or...?
It was (is?) my understanding that this phone was fully 3G capable.
Can someone help me with this?
As far as I can tell, my phone should support the Telus overlay of HSPA on their CDMA network, however I'm showing "EV" an my network type on the notification bar.
I visited a Telus store, and talked to a rep, who just babbled to me about how my SIM was "registered" as a CDMA phone, and therefore I couldn't use HSPA.
>_>
Thoughts?
EDIT: The rep also fed me this convoluted bullsh*t about how when I'm roaming, I'll be able to be on HSPA networks, so I'll get better bandwidth roaming than on my home network...
Wow no one knows the answer to this?
I've searched, and there's no answer, per se, just descriptions of Telus' technology and the antennae in the TP2, which seems to indicate that the TP2 should be able to get on the Telus HSPA network...
I have a SIM-unlocked Telus Touch Pro2 I bought off Craigslist, figuring it'd be good to go when the HSPA network rolled out (Only four months later!). As I understand it, the telus model can make and receive calls on quad-band GSM frequencies, but only use EDGE speeds for data. Has to do with the firmware for the chipset inside the phone. The only HSPA 3G band the phone can use is 2100 Mhz, which is the bad used in Europe, not Canada. It's a major piss-off, especially when a month ago the stores made this out to be the top-of-the-line phone, perfect for ever and ever.
It would seem that should Telus decide to plug in some firmware upgrades, they could activate the new 3G bands, but why bother? We've already signed away our souls to the company.
Who knows, maybe they'll fix it when they release Windows 6.5 for our rig. Because that's on the top of the to-do list, right?
Well there are new radios that we could flash...would that change anything?
Now I may be misinformed but I think that the Telus version is a CMDA phone with GSM capabilites on some frequencies. I do not think it will work on HSPA in Canada as they use different frequencies (850 and 1900). This is why so many people were waiting for the ATT version to come out as it uses those frequencies.
Remember GSM does not equal 3G.
What I would like to know is whether the distinction between 3G and GSM is on the hardware side, firmware side, or software side. Telus would have you assume it's all the hardware's fault, but I'm not sure on that one.
From everything I have read its the chip in the phone that isnt programmed/capable of doing the frequencies required. It may actually be a second chip but I cant confirm that. Other posts have stated that there wont be a software fix to "unlock the frequencies" needed.
GSM is a cellular line and 3G is a data connection.
I just purchased an At&t Tilt 2 unlocked for use on Telus 3G+ network. The Telus Touch Pro 2 is a CDMA , Quadband GSRM and UMTS/HSDPA 2100. The Telus TP2 will only work with EVDO data on the Telus network. If you unlock it for use with Rogers it will work on GSRM with Edge data. That is why I have ordered the At&t Tilt 2. Unfortunately Telus won't honour my unlimited data plan and say it is only for EVDO and that I have to change to one of their current plans to have HSDPA. Like all of the networks, they get your money one way or the other. I'm pleased that with the Tilt 2 I am free to switch providers here in Canada and still get 3G as well as when I travel in Europe.
hi All!
I am in a big fix and need the right facts here... so please help if you know of it, and are sure about it.
I intend to buy the HTC Evo 4G outright from Sprint, from the HTC US online store, for around $549. Now would like to know if this would be network unlocked?
I need to use this phone in India on CDMA network of the same frequency as the Sprint's, and i know i can use it here without a sim card. Now my only worry is that whether this would be locked to only Sprint network when i pay the full price for it from HTC store?
Thanks a lot!
Without rooting and some modifications, it is locked to the Sprint network. However, if you poke around some of the other forums where people have unlocked CDMA phones (the CDMA Hero comes to mind) you might see what they've done to unlock it to other networks.
I know this is very old post, but help me too. I want to use my htc evo in korea. It is rooted with s-off and I'm wondering if the phone is country locked or locked to sprint network. How can I tell? thx.
You can't unlock a CDMA phone, only GSM can be network unlocked. You can use your Sprint phone only if Sprint has set up an agreement with the country you are going to. But then you'd have to pay Sprint International Roaming rate.
According to this,
http://internationalroaming.sprint.com/IntlCoverage/SearchCountry.do?ECID=vanity:sww
South Korea is listed.
KJ
gooruma said:
I know this is very old post, but help me too. I want to use my htc evo in korea. It is rooted with s-off and I'm wondering if the phone is country locked or locked to sprint network. How can I tell? thx.
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You can if you can do the following:
1. Have a way to activate the EVO in S. Korea with a provider that runs CDMA in 800mhz (create account, and add the EVO's ESN to that account)
2. Have access to a PRL file that gives priority to the CDMA network by the provider in #1, and update the PRL on your EVO with it.
I think #2 is doable, #1 may be difficult unless you know Korean well, or know someone who understands the issues and is willing to help. Also, while Korea has "PCS" bands, but they are not the same as the 1900 mhz PCS bands in the US, I believe they are in the 1700 mhz range, and are not the same as the AWS bands in the US, also in 1700mhz, but also in 2100mhz.
All that maybe fruitless, as you'll only have voice call capability, unless you also know how to program the mobile ip settings to get data working as well.
so i just got my SM-900W8 for Wind mobile today, had to buy it with two months service, but then was able to send half of the money i put down on that service over to my old account, switch the sims, and now i have my same old number and plan on my new note, and i'm only out an extra 20 bucks (still bull****, i know, but i wanted it today and wasn't going to deal with waiting, for any reason.... maybe too impatient lol)
anyways, after i bought it, i stopped by the bell store and asked what model they sell... they showed me the box and it was the exact same model number... SM-900W8. i then went to rogers, same thing, and telus i presume will be the same since bell and telus share towers etc
so, my question is, if i unlocked my phone, could i simply go get a bell rogers or telus sim card, and throw it in, and have it work? the region issue is a non-starter for two reasons - first i didn't even have that region lock sticker on my box, but second, the robelus sims would all be the same region, so it shouldn't matter in the least. what i'm wondering is, would the bands be the same, or at least some of the same to the point of working? i know that wind uses AWS bands and robelus does not, but since they are the same model number, is it possible that they have radios that are compatible with all four carriers in this phone?
if not, can someone explain to me how to find out what networks this phone would work on? i mean, it sounds like people are unlocking their tmobile phone and using it on att, and from what i remembered, att is not aws, and i thought that rogers and att phones worked together... ARGG what gives here?
also, are the tmo phones the same model number as mine? or did they use different phones than wind this time around?
finally, if i'm looking to root this or put a rom on this, am i looking for the tmo roms and other stuff like i was with my sgs3 or am i looking for something else with this new phone? where can i find this info... i haven't been able to find much about this yet, i guess not many people have this phone on wind yet
W8 model also has AWS HSPA and LTE.
Check phonescoop.
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W8 model also has AWS HSPA and LTE.
Check phonescoop.
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Thanks for the answer, but I don't know for sure what bands the big three use, can anyone tell me if this phone will work on those big networks?
Also, any answers to my other questions ?
Rogers, Bell and Wind all use the SM-900W8 variant probably with just a different modem / QCP file.
So does this mean that there is some chance of, in the future when things get cracked, of flashing a new modem etc onto it our something
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So does this mean that there is some chance of, in the future when things get cracked, of flashing a new modem etc onto it our something
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to answer my own question, yes, i unlocked my n900w8 from wind with an unlock code, and i was able to see whatever networks were attached to the sim i put in it. rogers, bell, telus, koodo, virgin, fido, wind, probabaly chatr if you really wanted to use this device on that dumb ass carrier
so yes, you dont even need to flash other modems... it just works
i did try flashing bell/rogers/puerto rico roms on my device and all had the same result, it all worked, and it all worked fine
Samsung galaxy note 3 SM-N900W8 from videotron (canada)
Hi, i have a Samsung galaxy note 3 SM-N900W8 from videotron (canada) and i unlock with a code to use it with fido and the phone show only the 3G internet, is there a way to enable the LTE? when i go to setting mobile network, network mode show me only 3 options WCDMA/GSM (auto connect) or WCDMA only or GSM only. I tried to root the device to do like this forum said ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2489766 ) and when i root it it says pass but it stuck on rebooting and something red is written on the next line and samsung logo is there too. anyone can help me to enable the LTE network?