so i just got my SM-900W8 for Wind mobile today, had to buy it with two months service, but then was able to send half of the money i put down on that service over to my old account, switch the sims, and now i have my same old number and plan on my new note, and i'm only out an extra 20 bucks (still bull****, i know, but i wanted it today and wasn't going to deal with waiting, for any reason.... maybe too impatient lol)
anyways, after i bought it, i stopped by the bell store and asked what model they sell... they showed me the box and it was the exact same model number... SM-900W8. i then went to rogers, same thing, and telus i presume will be the same since bell and telus share towers etc
so, my question is, if i unlocked my phone, could i simply go get a bell rogers or telus sim card, and throw it in, and have it work? the region issue is a non-starter for two reasons - first i didn't even have that region lock sticker on my box, but second, the robelus sims would all be the same region, so it shouldn't matter in the least. what i'm wondering is, would the bands be the same, or at least some of the same to the point of working? i know that wind uses AWS bands and robelus does not, but since they are the same model number, is it possible that they have radios that are compatible with all four carriers in this phone?
if not, can someone explain to me how to find out what networks this phone would work on? i mean, it sounds like people are unlocking their tmobile phone and using it on att, and from what i remembered, att is not aws, and i thought that rogers and att phones worked together... ARGG what gives here?
also, are the tmo phones the same model number as mine? or did they use different phones than wind this time around?
finally, if i'm looking to root this or put a rom on this, am i looking for the tmo roms and other stuff like i was with my sgs3 or am i looking for something else with this new phone? where can i find this info... i haven't been able to find much about this yet, i guess not many people have this phone on wind yet
W8 model also has AWS HSPA and LTE.
Check phonescoop.
mingkee said:
W8 model also has AWS HSPA and LTE.
Check phonescoop.
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Thanks for the answer, but I don't know for sure what bands the big three use, can anyone tell me if this phone will work on those big networks?
Also, any answers to my other questions ?
Rogers, Bell and Wind all use the SM-900W8 variant probably with just a different modem / QCP file.
So does this mean that there is some chance of, in the future when things get cracked, of flashing a new modem etc onto it our something
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So does this mean that there is some chance of, in the future when things get cracked, of flashing a new modem etc onto it our something
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to answer my own question, yes, i unlocked my n900w8 from wind with an unlock code, and i was able to see whatever networks were attached to the sim i put in it. rogers, bell, telus, koodo, virgin, fido, wind, probabaly chatr if you really wanted to use this device on that dumb ass carrier
so yes, you dont even need to flash other modems... it just works
i did try flashing bell/rogers/puerto rico roms on my device and all had the same result, it all worked, and it all worked fine
Samsung galaxy note 3 SM-N900W8 from videotron (canada)
Hi, i have a Samsung galaxy note 3 SM-N900W8 from videotron (canada) and i unlock with a code to use it with fido and the phone show only the 3G internet, is there a way to enable the LTE? when i go to setting mobile network, network mode show me only 3 options WCDMA/GSM (auto connect) or WCDMA only or GSM only. I tried to root the device to do like this forum said ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2489766 ) and when i root it it says pass but it stuck on rebooting and something red is written on the next line and samsung logo is there too. anyone can help me to enable the LTE network?
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Hi there,
I'm totally confused as to what I need to do to get my Touch Pro 2 (currently activated on Boost CDMA) to work abroad, specifically Canada.
It is flashed with Energy ROM, Reference version.
Do I need to do a Radio flash? Do I need to tweak some settings? Both? Neither?
I'm going to be in Canada for 3 weeks and plan to use either Rogers or Fido's GSM Pay as You Go (already have the SIM cards), or Telus's CDMA Pay as You Go.
I've read the FAQs and generally understand that this is possible -- just not clear the route.
Thanks,
Simmy
The biggest problem with Canada is our carriers don't want people coming in and using their networks without paying for it, and that usually means your first born here.
The hardware problem is, the TP2 will not work on the frequencies in Canada that Telus has used for the HSPA / 4G network. And using the current CDMA network is not possible either because Telus and Bell will not allow you to put branded phones from other companies on the old network and CDMA systems don't use SIM cards. So if your planning on bringing the TP2 up here I think you may be out of luck.
I took the TP2 to Ireland and was able to use the frequencies there on the O2 network, but to do that I had to unlock the phone and as i have the "world edition" with the SIM card slot once unlocked it worked over there no issue, and returned working over here with no SIM card in it. But again this is a frequency issue and telus tells us it won't work.
Now if when you get here, and you plug a sim card in and it does work, please share, because it means we can manually add frequencies and hook to both the old and new network. And some of us with the original unlimited data contracts (no 10 gig cap) would be really happy to know this.
As for Rogers, i can't tell you. I don't know if they have ever had the TP2 and have no clue what frequency they are using for their phones, though i'm sure it's similar.
Flashing the radio does nothing to add radios or affect your ability to connect to the network while abroad. Its usually just done to improve reception and/or battery life.
You will need your phone SIM unlocked. Then, as the post above suggests, either putting in the SIM works, or it doesn't.
Thanks to both of you for your reply.
So the TP2 won't work on any Canadian CDMA networks, but since it also has GSM, if I stick a Rogers or Fido SIM card in it, it *may* work. In fact, I believe it *should* work. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
And thanks for answering my question re: radio ROMs, Redpoint -- that's what I thought, but was still confused about.
So, with respect to unlocking, is the Olipro page that charges 11 pounds / 14 euros / $20 my best/cheapest option? (unfortunately, i can't link to it here because I'm a new member)
Thank muchly,
Simmy
The device should have no trouble connecting to a normal GSM network in Canada. The Canadian GSM networks use the GSM-1900 and GSM-850 bands. The CDMA Rhodiums use a quad band frequency that spans all of 850/900/1800/1900 MHz channels. You should have no problems in Canada. Enjoy your trip.
You do not need to flash a new radio to have it work in Canada.
Does anyone know if the Telus version of the SIII is the same modelt hat is on Rogers?
I went to the websites and seems the GSM frequencies are the same but was not clear on the LTE chip. Each service provider uses a different AWS and it is not clear if both are active on each phone or if there is a separate phone for each.
Anyone know?
I ask because I can get a deal on a used Telus one but I am on Rogers
as far as i know, the telus, bell, and rogers versions have the exact same model number, thus, same hardware:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III#Model_variants
hope that helps.
Canadoc said:
Does anyone know if the Telus version of the SIII is the same modelt hat is on Rogers?
I went to the websites and seems the GSM frequencies are the same but was not clear on the LTE chip. Each service provider uses a different AWS and it is not clear if both are active on each phone or if there is a separate phone for each.
Anyone know?
I ask because I can get a deal on a used Telus one but I am on Rogers
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as far as i know, the telus, bell, and rogers versions have the exact same model number, thus, same hardware:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III#Model_variants
hope that helps.
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Yes I can confirm it will work fine.
Remember that you will have to UNLOCK it first either free manually (somewhere in XDA there is info), or paying Telus or paying a 3rd party. Then make sure to get the Rogers LTE Sim and also APN info specific to LTE etc.
I did see that telus was selling refurbished ones for pretty cheap.
Should be the same (i747m)
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They're identical phones. I was planning on getting one of those Telus refurbs until the page went down
You can just unlock it and flash the factory Bell or Rogers software onto it (so you can have the appropriate bloatware lol)
Hello guys! I'm using the I747M variant which I bought from Rogers about 8 months ago and I want to know if I can switch to other carriers network here in Canada via unlocking because Rogers' available phone plans are just a pain in the ass so I want to switch networks. So please kindly share any information regarding unlocking and changing carrier networks. Thanks in advance
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Hello guys! I'm using the I747M variant which I bought from Rogers about 8 months ago and I want to know if I can switch to other carriers network here in Canada via unlocking because Rogers' available phone plans are just a pain in the ass so I want to switch networks. So please kindly share any information regarding unlocking and changing carrier networks. Thanks in advance
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Once unlocked, It is guaranteed to work with Bell and Telus.
Hope this helps :good:
Search for it, it's around here in the forums for free. You just need a simcard from the next provider you wish to go to.
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Once unlocked, It is guaranteed to work with Bell and Telus.
Hope this helps :good:
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How about on other networks such as Mobilicity? My mom is on a plan on Mobilicity and I also want the same plan because my phone is kinda useless without internet and not even a caller ID.
once unlocked it'd most likely work
but for the data part, i can't really say because different mhz on different carrier network..
so 70% chance that you will only get Edge in your area
Does anyone knows any information on how to change radio frequencies on a phone? I've seen some SG3 on ebay.ca that is labelled as "Pentaband" and could work with any carrier network here in Canada. Can someone please explain to me how does this work? And is it possible for my phone to be converted into a "Pentaband" phone?
Mobilicity does not use the same bands as Rogers, Bell or Telus for its HSPA/HSPA+ service. As Pcshano said, your phone would work on Mobilicity, but only on Edge.
You encounter the same problem as T-Mobile users in the US, and WIND and Videotron in Canada. See [WIP][BOUNTY] Enable 3G on 1700MHz for ATT Galaxy S3 i747 on efforts to enable HSPA on 1700MHz on the i747.
Hey Y'all,
I've seen the other threads and I know that LTE works for AT&T but for the life of me, I cannot get it to select LTE
at all. I've tried the connections-->network mode menu and whenever I select LTE+WCDMA+GSM it always reverts
back to WCDMA+GSM the moment i back out of the menu. Also when using the *#2263# and I try and select it
via that way, I get bars but no data. Can anyone help me shed some light on this?
Is there another way to prioritize LTE? Do i need to flash a new kernel or modem?
Thanks guys!
Is lt available in your area?
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Is lt available in your area?
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Yea that's whats bugging me. I put the AT&T sim back into my GN II and it gets LTE easy. I'm still within the return period
I just dont know if I'm missing a step or if the phone is defective. But it gets T-Mobile LTE ( in what few places get it
where I'm at ). So I don't know
Did you flash the att radio?
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Did you flash the att radio?
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No I did not. I just did the unlock method that was posted here. So forgive the noob question, but I would have to flash
the AT&T radio to get LTE? Or is this just a troubleshooting method you want me to try? I just thought I wouldn't have
to flash the AT&T radio since it supported the bands Out-the-box.
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No I did not. I just did the unlock method that was posted here. So forgive the noob question, but I would have to flash
the AT&T radio to get LTE? Or is this just a troubleshooting method you want me to try? I just thought I wouldn't have
to flash the AT&T radio since it supported the bands Out-the-box.
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Technically, you shouldn't have to. It supports 700 MHz LTE out of the box. The T-Mobile S4 is the "best" version because it supports both AT&T and T-Mobile bands out of the box. The AT&T S4 supports AT&T and T-Mobile LTE out of the box, but not T-Mobile HSPA+ (AWS) without a mod.
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Technically, you shouldn't have to. It supports 700 MHz LTE out of the box. The T-Mobile S4 is the "best" version because it supports both AT&T and T-Mobile bands out of the box. The AT&T S4 supports AT&T and T-Mobile LTE out of the box, but not T-Mobile HSPA+ (AWS) without a mod.
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Yes but without the proper radio. How's it supposed to know what to connect to
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Product F(RED) said:
Technically, you shouldn't have to. It supports 700 MHz LTE out of the box. The T-Mobile S4 is the "best" version because it supports both AT&T and T-Mobile bands out of the box. The AT&T S4 supports AT&T and T-Mobile LTE out of the box, but not T-Mobile HSPA+ (AWS) without a mod.
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****. That's what I thought. Oh well. I'll do an exchange then at T-mobile. Hopefully it's just this phone. Thanks guys.
Infornography said:
No I did not. I just did the unlock method that was posted here. So forgive the noob question, but I would have to flash
the AT&T radio to get LTE? Or is this just a troubleshooting method you want me to try? I just thought I wouldn't have
to flash the AT&T radio since it supported the bands Out-the-box.
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It's more along the lines of a troubleshooting method. I believe I read another thread exactly like yours and the solution was to flash att radio. Think of it like a regular am/fm radio. All the hardware is there, but without something to control what stations it can play, how's it gonna know what to play?
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Yes but without the proper radio. How's it supposed to know what to connect to
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The network is decided by the SIM card (the entire purpose of GSM). With an AT&T SIM, he should still be able to pick up T-Mobile LTE (AWS LTE is what T-Mobile uses and it's supported in all AT&T devices). My AT&T Note 2 gets T-Mobile LTE, just like my T-Mobile Note 2 does.
Also you can't cross-flash modems because the partition sizes are different; ROMs may be compatible (that's the case with the Note 2) but not the modem. If you flash another device's modem, you'll lose your IMEI (until you flash back the correct one) and your device will bootloop with no signal. From experience.
IGNORE THE GUY TELLING YOU TO FLASH THE AT&T RADIO. YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PHONE.
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I just remembered the reason. AT&T won't activate LTE on a non-AT&T phone (on their end on the computer) unless you lie to them and give them the IMEI of an AT&T device. 10000% sure. Fixed this for another guy with a T-Mobile Note 2 trying to use it on AT&T. I have one for you. You go on chat online and tell them you're not getting LTE. They ask you for an IMEI number of an AT&T LTE device (it doesn't have to be your S4's) and then they can activate LTE on their end. I happen to have an IMEI of an in-store HTC One on hand. I'll PM you.
Here's the thread where I helped the guy (last page): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953015
Product F(RED) said:
The network is decided by the SIM card (the entire purpose of GSM). With an AT&T SIM, he should still be able to pick up T-Mobile LTE (AWS LTE is what T-Mobile uses and it's supported in all AT&T devices). My AT&T Note 2 gets T-Mobile LTE, just like my T-Mobile Note 2 does.
Also you can't cross-flash modems because the partition sizes are different; ROMs may be compatible (that's the case with the Note 2) but not the modem. If you flash another device's modem, you'll lose your IMEI (until you flash back the correct one) and your device will bootloop with no signal. From experience.
IGNORE THE GUY TELLING YOU TO FLASH THE AT&T RADIO. YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PHONE.
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I just remembered the reason. AT&T won't activate LTE on a non-AT&T phone (on their end on the computer) unless you lie to them and give them the IMEI of an AT&T device. 10000% sure. Fixed this for another guy with a T-Mobile Note 2 trying to use it on AT&T. I have one for you. You go on chat online and tell them you're not getting LTE. They ask you for an IMEI number of an AT&T LTE device (it doesn't have to be your S4's) and then they can activate LTE on their end. I happen to have an IMEI of an in-store HTC One on hand. I'll PM you.
Here's the thread where I helped the guy (last page): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953015
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Thanks for all the help guys. I already have the GN-II's imei listed on my account however and with the LTE feature code on my account thanks to my buddy who is a rep at the att store. I'm gonna meet him in a few minutes to get another sim card just to give this another shot before i do an exchange at t-mobile seeing as t-mobile is more anal about doing exchanges unless they can physically verify in store what you're *****ing about.
Product F(RED) said:
The network is decided by the SIM card (the entire purpose of GSM). With an AT&T SIM, he should still be able to pick up T-Mobile LTE (AWS LTE is what T-Mobile uses and it's supported in all AT&T devices). My AT&T Note 2 gets T-Mobile LTE, just like my T-Mobile Note 2 does.
Also you can't cross-flash modems because the partition sizes are different; ROMs may be compatible (that's the case with the Note 2) but not the modem. If you flash another device's modem, you'll lose your IMEI (until you flash back the correct one) and your device will bootloop with no signal. From experience.
IGNORE THE GUY TELLING YOU TO FLASH THE AT&T RADIO. YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PHONE.
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I just remembered the reason. AT&T won't activate LTE on a non-AT&T phone (on their end on the computer) unless you lie to them and give them the IMEI of an AT&T device. 10000% sure. Fixed this for another guy with a T-Mobile Note 2 trying to use it on AT&T. I have one for you. You go on chat online and tell them you're not getting LTE. They ask you for an IMEI number of an AT&T LTE device (it doesn't have to be your S4's) and then they can activate LTE on their end. I happen to have an IMEI of an in-store HTC One on hand. I'll PM you.
Here's the thread where I helped the guy (last page): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953015
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You dont need to be so rude first of all. Secondly I never told him to do anything, i simply asked if he flashed the radio and told him it was a troubleshooting method. Meaning, research it before you do it. Just like anything else.
Secondly, others have gotten LTE on their T-Mobile devices without talking to ATT. I already stated i was using the top of my head for diagnosing and never did i tell him to do anything. And since i was going off the top of my head, i remember being able to flash ATT radios to the S3 and S2 of T-Mobile. Also, he has a T-MOBILE DEVICE wanting ATT LTE on it, not the other way around as you are thinking.. Any how, we are two very smart people, we need not argue with one another and telling the op to ignore someone. Thats just flat out rude. Especially since i never said "go flash the ATT radio" i simply asked a question.
To the OP,
Have you set up your APN configurations for ATT?
elesbb said:
You dont need to be so rude first of all. Secondly I never told him to do anything, i simply asked if he flashed the radio and told him it was a troubleshooting method. Meaning, research it before you do it. Just like anything else.
Secondly, others have gotten LTE on their T-Mobile devices without talking to ATT. I already stated i was using the top of my head for diagnosing and never did i tell him to do anything. And since i was going off the top of my head, i remember being able to flash ATT radios to the S3 and S2 of T-Mobile. Also, he has a T-MOBILE DEVICE wanting ATT LTE on it, not the other way around as you are thinking.. Any how, we are two very smart people, we need not argue with one another and telling the op to ignore someone. Thats just flat out rude. Especially since i never said "go flash the ATT radio" i simply asked a question.
To the OP,
Have you set up your APN configurations for ATT?
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I'm sorry if I came off as rude to you; I was merely trying to tell him to not cross-flash S4 modems as it can brick the device; you have to be careful what you tell people to do if they're coming to you for help. It's not like with the S2. I correctly said he has a T-Mobile device and wants AT&T LTE on it, and as I said before, I've fixed the issue with someone who was in the same situation with a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2. Like I stated, the phone itself is capable of 700 MHz LTE, which is what AT&T uses. You don't have to flash any modems. It should just work. The fix is above in the last paragraph.
Supported frequencies: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-M919ZWATMB-specs
Sorry guys but I just switched sims and confirmed I have an lte imei and feature on my acct but no dice.
Infornography said:
Sorry guys but I just switched sims and confirmed I have an lte imei and feature on my acct but no dice.
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Did you try changing APN configurations?
Update: I switched the phone, did the unlock process again and....it still refuses to select LTE. I dunno. At this point I'm at a loss and thinking that it might have something to do with the unlock process itself. I might just do one more exchange and pay for the unlock. Can someone who has AT&T LTE on their S 4 do me a favor and post their APN settings so I can compare just to be absolutely sure it's correct?
I have a T-Mobile s4 that I put my AT&T SIM card in out of my AT&T galaxy note 2 and lte works fine. My issue is, I have random losses of network signal then it just comes back moments later while using the T-Mobile s4 with my AT&T SIM card. I used the unlock method posted in the T-Mobile s4 thread, rooted and flashed the Jedi Rom from the T-Mobile s4 thread. Can anyone shed some light on this issue?
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I have an AT&T M8 which I unlocked, rooted and s-off'd while under AT&T contract. I then decided to switch to T-Mobile and give this device to my 11-year old son. What I'd like to know/understand is whether I can flash some of the T-Mobile Roms I see in this forum on the AT&T M8 and it work with T-Mobile network? Or do I still need to flash the AT&T Roms?
Thanks in advance for any help advice!
Johnny
SIM unlocked would allow you to use it on stock AT&T too if you choose to. Also everything seems to be interchangeable unless noted. I would go for Rom with T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling, which is amazing btw for those who get sorry service.
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jteunis said:
I have an AT&T M8 which I unlocked, rooted and s-off'd while under AT&T contract. I then decided to switch to T-Mobile and give this device to my 11-year old son. What I'd like to know/understand is whether I can flash some of the T-Mobile Roms I see in this forum on the AT&T M8 and it work with T-Mobile network? Or do I still need to flash the AT&T Roms?
Thanks in advance for any help advice!
Johnny
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You should be able to flash either T-mobile or AT&T (Even roms in the international section, I would recommend InsertCoin) roms without any issues. Eleven and has a M8? Damn, i'm jealous lol.
Da Kine said:
You should be able to flash either T-mobile or AT&T (Even roms in the international section, I would recommend InsertCoin) roms without any issues. Eleven and has a M8? Damn, i'm jealous lol.
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Thanks for the information to the both ^^^^^^^^ of you! I appreciate it. Yes , he is 11 years old, but a good respectful kid and does well in school. With that I'm okay with giving him nice things. If that should change, then Daddy gets the M8 back!!! LOL
Somewhat related question... If I u were to use an AT&T model on T-Mobile, would everything work correctly, 3g/4g? Comparing the frequency bands online, the AT&T model is missing the 1700 band that the T-Mobile version has. Does that mean the phone doesn't have the hardware components to connect to it? Or is it capable of connecting, just that AT&T doesn't use that band? I'm asking because I want to pickup a used m8, but the T-Mobile version is going for around $100 more than all the other carrier's versions... Could I just SIM unlock an AT&T version and be set, or will some things not work?
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los1223 said:
Somewhat related question... If I u were to use an AT&T model on T-Mobile, would everything work correctly, 3g/4g? Comparing the frequency bands online, the AT&T model is missing the 1700 band that the T-Mobile version has. Does that mean the phone doesn't have the hardware components to connect to it? Or is it capable of connecting, just that AT&T doesn't use that band? I'm asking because I want to pickup a used m8, but the T-Mobile version is going for around $100 more than all the other carrier's versions... Could I just SIM unlock an AT&T version and be set, or will some things not work?
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That's a good question and hoping someone will have the answer. In the meantime I was able to SIM unlock my son's ATT M8 and install a TMobile SIM using stock ATT rom. So far everything has worked and the 4G symbol does appear in the task bar, although I'm not sure if that really means he's getting 4G. I did have to manually enter the APN settings so he could get mobile data when not connected to wifi.
Tmobile apn settings
Would you mind posting the apn settings that allowed your sons phone to work on 4g and send mms? Its the main reason I'm looking into flashing a Rom and would save me a lot of trouble as I have spent quite a bit of time searching for one that works on my phone and none seem to do the trick.