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Help Removing o2 active!!

Hi, i just got an XDA IIs and have been reading up as it does seam to crash regually. and i heard that removing the o2 active peice of crap helps. but i cant find anywhere how to do it?
Cheers Paul

The best way to get rid of O2 active is to hard reset, when the screen apears asking "PRIVATE OR CORPORATE" install select corporate then enter 0506 in the password field.

If you do this back up your phone and address book to the SD card, before you hard reset - do not try to re-install all your programs etc from back up following the hard reset, as doing this re-loads part of the rubish you are trying to get rid of - believe me if you do this it really screws up the handset - I tried it - wouldn't charge in the car, kept locking up etc. The sooner you do the hard reset the easy it will be - less applications to re-load - good luck _ Mike

Hi all,
I to am trying this reset process with an O2 XDA, when it hard resets I am not getting the screen asking me for "PRIVATE OR CORPORATE", any ideas as to why?
Can someone also confirm the Hard Reset sequene?
Many thanks
Paul

what i do is, after the hard reset (and choosing personal) and having it do all its stuff, first, remove/disable all O2 stuff from the today screen (start -> settings -> today -> remove all the o2 stuff in both tabs).
then start -> settings -> remove programs, remove all the o2 active VR stuff.
probably a message will pop up, noting some directories it doesn't remove. after removal is done, just go to file manager, and manually delete those directories.
seems to remove it for me =)

Mackster, you only get about five seconds to select the mode you want, if you don't do anything it will install personel mode as default - Why O2 insist on puting this rubish on there badged machines is beyond me - it makes a nice bit of kit into rubish, Ive had no problems since getting shut of it, even O2 support by phone will tell you to take it off as the first line for most queries - Mike

Paul, the thing I did was hard reset, and when it gives me a warning that programs will be installed in 3 seconds, I did a soft reset. After the soft reset, it won't try to install the programs anymore. I think this gives you the CLEANEST install.
When I did the Corporate setup, it still installed the PDF viewer, blah blah... I would like to control what I put in my PDA, even if they are useful programs. Hope this helps.
Sam

Sorry to dig this topic up, but I was looking for a solution and came up with one myself and thought I'd post it incase it comes in handy for anyone else.
Right, to disable the O2 Active UI from running...
Code:
Programs -> File Explorer
- Go to \Windows\Startup (make sure you have \ not \\ at the beginning if entering a path name)
- Delete the "connections" program
Soft Reset
This should stop the little O2 icon from appearing in the taskbar. For completeness, you'll probably want to stop any of the other O2 apps from running as well...
Code:
settings -> today -> items
- untick o2aui
- untick clockinfo
- untick o2BatteryPlugin
- OK
Soft Reset (to be sure)
Personally, I like the battery plugin, because its actually quite practical. Anyway, if you want to completely remove the software, do as follows...
Code:
Programs -> File Explorer
- Go to \Windows\Fonts
- Delete or rename the xpdr_02 (font) file
Settings -> System -> Remove Programs
- Select the O2 active UI from the list and click remove.
The UI should now be removed. It will probably tell you that it was successful, though some directories remain. You can delete them manually if you wish, but they shouldn't matter.
If you need/want to re-install the O2 software, you can do so from the software CD provided with the XDA, or it may be still available from the add/remove programs menu in ActiveSync.
You'll have probably noticed there's quite a lot of programs in the \Windows\Startup folder. I'm not sure what all of them do, but I bet you can get better start up times by removing some of them. Be careful though!
Enjoy

Thankyou to all that helped me out.
Many thanks
Paul :lol:

Mackster said:
Thankyou to all that helped me out.
Many thanks
Paul :lol:
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Thanks, finally got rid of o2 Active with the help I found here

I think I want to do a corporate install (Because I'm now having problems with vanishing clocks) but was to keep my o2batteryplugin
Does anyone know where it is so I can copy it - I've tried searching but nothing comes up
thanks
Patrick

Maybe it's
windows\batteryinfo.dll
?

sunpat said:
Maybe it's
windows\batteryinfo.dll
?
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I copied that accroos to my iPaq - doesn't work...;(

Thanks Trin
O2 Active removed successfully - thanks for the help.
Also found how to add the BatteryInfo.dll back in on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26995
Rob

O2 Active removal
Hi,
first hard rest ur device..when it will start installin a few files after u finish da setup...soft rest it..i.e. dun allow it 2 copy files nd u r done.
cheers,
ind

remove O2aui
Hi there,
I have seen so many clever hints how to successfully remove the O2aui from the device that I wonder what's wrong with simply goint to settings/system/remove programs and remove Mobile Solutions SRL O2ActiveUI v... ?
Would this remove more functions that I actually need?
Thanks for your comments.
Cheers

Trin said:
Sorry to dig this topic up, but I was looking for a solution and came up with one myself and thought I'd post it incase it comes in handy for anyone else.
Right, to disable the O2 Active UI from running...
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Trin said:
You've sorted something I've been trying to do for ages. That interface was really annoying.
Thank you.
QF
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ice man said:
The best way to get rid of O2 active is to hard reset, when the screen apears asking "PRIVATE OR CORPORATE" install select corporate then enter 0506 in the password field.
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0506? Thought it was 0504?

quinbus_flestrin said:
Trin said:
Sorry to dig this topic up, but I was looking for a solution and came up with one myself and thought I'd post it incase it comes in handy for anyone else.
Right, to disable the O2 Active UI from running...
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Trin said:
You've sorted something I've been trying to do for ages. That interface was really annoying.
Thank you.
QF
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You guys are amazing.
That company HCT should put you people on a permanent retainer.
I can testify that 0506 works to stop the O2 interface program being installed.
My XDA is now O2-free, and my lady's XDA is running an Orange Pay-as-you-go card.
As good as we think the XDA is, it would be nowhere near as good without this board and forum. The only problem we have had is actually finding the tricks to use.
A sticky or a permanent post would be most helpful. You folks all know how to do things like Hard Re-sets and have forgotten the time when you didn't. Just those two simple things... a hard re-set and that 0506 trick... have profoundly enhanced my use and experience of my XDA.
BTW in case anyone is thinking of buying one, we got a Stowaway Portable Keyboard with one of our XDAs, and we think it's pretty good. You have to remember to turn off the IRD when you want to use the keyboard, but aside from that, it was a good addition for us.
QF
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WM6, two things I miss from WM5

Hi!
I successfully upgraded my P3300 NOR to WM6 WWE, but there is some new "features" in WM6 that I don't appreciate that much:
1) In the message application the left soft button is changed from new to delete. This I find rather irritating because the majority of times I want to compose a new message, not delete one (I almost never deletes messages). I know there has been some discussion concerning this issues over in the hermes forum.
2) When writing a new text message (or e-mail for that sake) and you start typing in the to field, WM5 displayed a list of matches from your contacts that you could pick from, and the field populated itself with the right information. This is not happening on my device after upgrading, is it a setting that controls this behavior or do we have to hack something to accomplish this?
Any suggestions on how to solve these issues?
Regards,
PK

I know what you mean with the Delete in messages, its a right pain!
With regards to the contacts, mine kind of works, I use transcriber and if you write say A it comes up with the A's or some of them at the bottom of the screen.
If you click one it just inserts it after what you put, so for example you'd get To: A; Amy(m);
Which seems to kind of be a waste of time as you then have to go and delete the A bit?

hollinshead said:
With regards to the contacts, mine kind of works, I use transcriber and if you write say A it comes up with the A's or some of them at the bottom of the screen.
If you click one it just inserts it after what you put, so for example you'd get To: A; Amy(m);
Which seems to kind of be a waste of time as you then have to go and delete the A bit?
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Hi!
Thanks for reply! In WM5 (at least on my device) the item you picket from the list replaced what you already had wrote, so there the functionality made sense. If this is not true on WM6 then it's absolutely wast, as you pointed out.
Regards,
PK

On my device the thing with the contacts work just like in WM5... It does not work if i your Phonepad, but with the normal keyboard, a smal rectangualr pops up with the Result matching my already typed letters, i then can pick a contact and the device replaces my input with the number...
And the Thing with "Delete" instead of "New" is really a senseless change, although im usign the WM5 New Menu in my Today screen, where i can assign a Softbutton with "New..." and then creat a SMS, email, Task or Note, whatever you desire, so i never really go through the messaging -> new menu...

Registry change permanently?

It seems that several users are claiming that some registry changes stay permanent (i.e. waking-up Diamond when SMS came) and some not (i.e. not showing the SIM Card contacts).
Yes, I have used Search, and got different solutions proposed but all directed to a particular problem.
Is there a more general solution that noobs like me are missing about:
keeping the registry changes permanent (I mean resisting to at least a Soft Reset)?
Thanks for advice, reading, guiding.

general solution:
use Resco registry editor. one hassle less.

Please note that if any program (say TF3D ) writes to the registry when loading, there's not much you can do, except a delayed script... and even that might not solved if there's a timer running in the background.

Thanks anyway for replying. So, I will test to kill TF3D to see...

So, last results... for instance regarding the SIM contacts view:
RESCO (excellent tools btw): ok up to the next reset.
Without TF3D: again some register changes are erased by the first soft reset.
So enough with that, probably will be solved with a cooked ROM...?
Best.

[Resource] Adding More Programs in Program Tab

Hey guys, I've been messing around with my HD in the registry before doing a master reset and found how to add more programs to the programs tab (in case 24 is not enough for you)
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher
(once u navigate there, add new keys (starting with 24) and copy and paste the DispName, IconPath, IsReadOnly, and Path from one of the previous keys)
PS, sorry if this was already posted, I tried searching for it but couldn't find it.
Otherwise, enjoy

hey thats really cool I'm going to try that now!
Is it possible to also add more than one application tab?

Looks promising, but I must be doing something wrong. I do get the '+' icons to add new programs but when I add a program it doesn't show, not even ofter a soft reset. Will try a bit more...
edit: Noticed in the registry that it does change the key's Path and DispName entries but somehow it just won't show... Odd.

Did anybody get this working? It would be nice to have a few more spaces for programs.

No, the maximum of activ program is 24 "+" and not more aviable.
Jes, you can make more then 24 "+", but not activ with program`s.

Too bad, thanks. It still strikes me as odd, but I've had so many HTC /WM phones that by now 'odd' actually became the norm
Thanks again

sorry guys, I didn't actually try adding a program to the plus (as I didn't have the need, I just assumed it would work when I saw the '+'), but hey, who knows, maybe it's a two part process and we just have to find another registry which will allow us to assign the programs. Once again, sorry for not fully testing before posting. (and PS, from what I remember, the diamond only had 16 or 20 '+' for programs, so I'm thinking that there is indeed a way to assign more programs, though it might be not worth the trouble)

whats going on here

Hi all,
please excuse the vagueness of this post.
I have just been given a tp2 as a replacement to my td2
My wife also has the tp2 which she got a year ago
the whole look of the phone (software ) is totally diferent
for instance the program page used to list a few progs (your choice) and then you had to hit all progs to get them up.
i am guessing that its a different rom or different version of sense?
also how do i change/edit/remove some programs from the list?
cheers guys

you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.

thanks for that
sorry to be thick but does that just enable me to move the prog icons or delete the progs as well
appreciate the help

thesyntax said:
you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.
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You don't need to edit the registry to turn off Manila. This is easily done from the Today settings.

hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks

stringman said:
hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks
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Different issues, my friend. Sense is the UI (aka Manila versions 2.1 and 2.5) you see when you start the phone. It is on by default, but you can turn it off in the Today setup and use the much less memory intensive standard Window Mobile screen. Go into the Today setup and turn off Sense by removing the check mark in the list and putting a check mark on Windows Default.
As for the bloatware that comes with the phone, anything on the ROM can not be removed except by flashing a new ROM. You can delete shortcuts from your start menu for programs you don't/won't use, but the programs will still be there. Do a search for Crud Scraper, a neat little tool that can 'remove' stuff from specific phone models (it worked great on my Tilt 2). Beyond that, read up as much as you can on modding your phone. This place is a great resource. Unfortunately, easy answers are hard to come by. You have to roll up your sleeves and get a little dirty.