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Orange Homescreen on non orange phone? (customization)

hello to all
I installed Orange Homescreen on my WM5 blue-angel.
It it by far the cleanest plug-in I've ever used! Two problems though:
1. The URLs seem to be hard coded - anyway of changing that?
2. On the contacts "tab" there is an option for speed dial, but it generates an error when I try to use it - is there some other CAB I need to install?
Thank you!

Hi AdmiralAK,
I love the Orange today plugin too, but have had a lot of trouble installing it on the other Rom's for my Universal. Can you tell which files you used to install it :?:
As for the problems your having:
1. The URL's can be changed by editing the Full_one.xml file.
But your still limited to four.
2. In the Orange Rom, some of the files have a lower case t prefix.
Try changing renaming your speed dial executable. It might work :wink:

Thanks!
I downloaded the homescreen cab from somewhere on this board (this was a few days ago so I am not completely sure). I found two versions. One was in the ftp://xda-developers.com/Universal/Extended_ROMs/Orange Extended ROM/
(this one I did not install because I had the otherone already installed)
(ok after a little looking I found it)
I am actually using the Orange Homescreen from the Orange SPV M3100 (hermes device) - this is the one that is installed on my Blue angel and it works without a problem. --> I am attaching it.
(I apologize to the forum for postnig the same file again - I cannot find the link to it)
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As for the speed dialer - I don't think I have the application installed on my blue angel (I am using the 1.3beta rom from HELMI and I don't seem to be able to find it) in my device - any idea where to get it?
Also, is the XML file that I need to edit in the windows/ directory?
Thanks

google tells me that the full_one.xml file is in my windows directory...but I dont see it :-/

The CAB from the Orange Ext ROM is just the reg settings, its no good without the files from the Orange ROM.
I'll try the file you posted this weekend [if I get the chance] :?
Yes, the XML file is in the Windows folder.
It works inconjuction with the HomeScreen.dll, with some icons stored in contactsico.dll.
I've added these files and the prefixed t files from the Windows folder of my Universal, I hope they're useful.

Have you tried the file ?

Hmm.. performing back up now.. and going to try it out. Hope it is easy to uninstall.
[UPDATE]
Ok, tested out the plugin. It is a nice plugin. Make your phone more like a phone than a PDA. It gives you one hand operation by using the direction buttons, making calls and stuff. However, since it will disable all other plugins, I won't recommend others whom uses Today calendar plugins such as Pocket Breeze, TodayAgenda, TodayPlus, etc.. to use this orange plugin. Uninstall is easy.
Screen shot of it here http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article569.html
under the section `INSIDE`. It is the same for smart phone and pda phone. You will see all the options available. And the 'Today' option actually sends you to the (built in) Calendar day view.

Hi, have you used the cab file and zip file above ?

Ok, I tried the plugin posted here by AdmiralAK, on my Universal.
First thing I noticed was it actually ran on the O2 ROM.
Second thing was how small the icons are compared to the plguin built into the Orange Universal ROM.
But I guess that makes sence as the screens are very different sizes. More importantly must of the plugin works fine.
I'm sure a little editing would probably have it all working.
What I did notice is its totally different to the Universal plugin, none of the files i've edited to get the universal version working the way I want it to, exist in this version. Hence the Full_one.xml, t* and .bmh files are not in the Windows folder.
I've gone back to the Orange ROM, as I have it running the way I want and the bigger icons are easier to use on the Universal. But i'll be keeping this version as I may get a TyTn next year.

Cool program. But too bad, limited customizable.
Hi people,
Great software, I was looking to try this on my MDA Vario. Too bad of it's limitations. Good to try out and see how it works.
Though I was thinking of visually designing a kind of similar application and find some great developers on this site to help me create it. Of course if anyone is interested in this kind of functionality.
Anyone already interested? let me know. i hope to have some draft ideas on here in the form of screenshots as soon as possible. but now it's diner time see ya.
Cheers,
Shah.

I have tried editing the 'full_one.xml' file, then soft reset....however it hasn't changed anything...
did i miss something?

Hi guy,
I've tried to resize the icon of plug-in and it's ok in portrait but no in landscape, I think it's a registry problem for landscape.
I'd like to use the plug-in on no orange rom.
I'll find the way to get more than 4 custom option but i get without icon.
The file full_one.xml is linked with other file of the orange rom so I think that's one problem.

@Shah2,
I'd be interested in a plugin like this, that has a few more options [see below] and works on all ROM's.
I have no programing skills or abilities, but i'd help out where I can. :wink:
@minty1978,
The Full_one.xml file only lets you edit the Labels and the URL's in the plugin.
@filippodisvevia,
I'd like to use the plug-in on a none Orange ROM too.
Then I wouldn't have to kepp hiding my Universal from the IT guys at work. :lol:
The 3 things I'd like to change on the plugin are:
1. Have more than 5 URL's in the Web section.
2. Have more than 4 programs in the Launch section.
3. Have all seven sections appear on the screen [at least in portrate mode][/i]

I'm a littlebit busy but I want resolve this match.
Stay tuned

Concept Orange Homescreen Pimped Beta 0.1
Hi people,
I told ya that I was interested in making the Orange Homescreen even better than it is at the moment.
THESE ARE PURELY PHOTOSHOP MOCKUPS!
Image number 1 shows the use of today plugin as we know them. It's just to give an example. All the other screens speak for themselves.
If anyone has his/her own ideas please share them in this thread. I would also like to draw the attention of developers who might be interested in creating this for real, and not just some photoshop images, please let me know.
Cheers,
Shah

Hi Shah,
Thats way more complex, than I was looking for. :shock:
But, If this was to be built as a new plugin, hopefully it could be scalable, using a .ini or .xml file. Like the real Orange plugin does. 8)
The only I don't really like, is the other plugins showing as in pic.1.
I have other plugins switched on while i'm at work, and the Orange one at night. I find the empty desktop more relaxing. :wink:

ZaForD said:
Hi Shah,
Thats way more complex, than I was looking for. :shock:
But, If this was to be built as a new plugin, hopefully it could be scalable, using a .ini or .xml file. Like the real Orange plugin does. 8)
The only I don't really like, is the other plugins showing as in pic.1.
I have other plugins switched on while i'm at work, and the Orange one at night. I find the empty desktop more relaxing. :wink:
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Hi ZaForD
The complexity is actually quite limited. Because if you use the plugin most of the options are the same. Most of the items are just additions to the rest of the plugin.
And for the pic 1. I can image it's not that nice. But with input we can work on making it more general so that people will like it.
Personally I would like to have the standaard Today screen plugins visible because they are still usefull.
It's also a possibility that all the items are configerable to meet users needs. For example standaard options like the original homescreen for users that want the basic functionalities, and advanced options for users who want more options. so that every page is user configerable.
Anything is possible in Photoshop haha. but seriously if there are any developers who are interested please leave a note.
Cheers,
Shah

I stopped using the plugin - no matter how much I liked it - because it did not show me tasks tat need to be done.
I would be interested in something more complex than it is now (at least show me my tasks) but maybe not as complex as the mockups. scalability would be cool

What do you think he is trying to do?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=63214&highlight=

Any updates on this?
I have a Prophet and tested the plugin, however there are some things that I can't edit (cause I don't have an Orange ROM)...

"Recently-used-programs"-List

Hello,
I am using a HTC P3300 (aka Artemis).
I recently updated it to the official HTC WM6 roms.
During the last days I have often looked into these forums to get some help for different things that I wanted to costumized, and I was happy to see that everything worked, so now I am giving you a hard one to solve.
In the start menu of WM6 is the so-called "Recent Programs"-List. I want to get rid of this list, unfortunately it is not as easy as it is in WindowsXP for example. I looked into the registry but I haven't found anything, but I am honest, I am not a registry-pro, perhaps I missed something.
Or is there a program able to to that? I don't want to do every day a cleanup.
To give you some motivation, until now (in WM5 and WM6) nobody could help me, except for the answer "it is impossible" , so I hope you guys will be up to it.
Thanks a lot in advance.

here you go...
instructions are in the zip file attached
if you want more details check out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302377

HKCU>Software>Microsoft>SHELL>TaskSwitch>
You will need to clear/delete the entries under it one by one or delete the "TaskSwitch" folder and then perform a soft reset to load the changes in the registry. The TaskSwitch folder will be re-built upon performing a soft reset.

Thanks.
Just checking it if I understood correctly the solutions you have provided.
What you two are proposing above, is a cleanup that has to be done or will be done automatically when I start my P3300.
Is there no possibility to simply turn the list off, like in XP? So that WM6 will not create any shortcut after I launched a program? Then there would be no need to turn the P3300, just to empty the list.
Thanks again for your help.

Yes thats correct. If someone knows a way of turning it off please let us know

Update
I know this is an old thread.
But if anyone wants to know how to disable this on a smartphone..
These are specifically for a BlackJack II. But it should be similar accross the board.
There are two shell entries we need to focus on:
:MSStart - full start menu
:MSMRULauncher - recent programs list.
If we navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSMRULauncher
Edit the value for 0 to be "MSStart" instead of "MSMRULauncher"
Edit the value for 1 to be the same as the MSSTART key e.g. - "appman.exe -s BootApps :MSStart tpcutil.dll AMStart"
When you hit the start key on your smartphone device it should jump straight to the all programs menu,

better solution
while this may work, it ruins that mru thingy and turns it into a start menu...
more elegant solution is to
set string value "Command" to ":MSStart"
in key
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Shell\StartMenu
That will simply tell Windows that default action for calling start menu from shell is MSStart while keeping mru in working state... also, there are several other interesting values out there, like order, you can set specific order of items in start menu... wiping this value may result in alphabetical sorting of all items, including those "important" like messaging, settings and so on... hope it helps

Two Irratating today buttons

I downloaded the LG Today plugin as i liked it very well it also works as promised by the developer! but i can not get rid of the two buttons no matter what!
i can understand from searching using the search function (so DONT accuse me of ignoring it) that you could get rid of it using a Reg Edit software but i have never dared to mess with my regisary (due to past experiances it reg on xp!)
Could Someone please tell or show me what to do!

removing system tray
i'm trying to do the same on my orbit 2
so far i've found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368836&highlight=remove+tray
but can't find a registry editor thats free.
ps: dont worry about changing your regisrty, just do things one step at a time and if you do mess it up theres alwasy the "hard reset" option.
update: ok found this registry editor. it runs on your pc and is a real time editor for the ppc registry (you can even do a full backup of your ppc registry). still trying to figure out how to remove the tray icons.
http://www.freewareppc.com/download/utilities/ceregeditor.shtml

gtti148 said:
i'm trying to do the same on my orbit 2
so far i've found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368836&highlight=remove+tray
but can't find a registry editor thats free.
ps: dont worry about changing your regisrty, just do things one step at a time and if you do mess it up theres alwasy the "hard reset" option.
update: ok found this registry editor. it runs on your pc and is a real time editor for the ppc registry (you can even do a full backup of your ppc registry). still trying to figure out how to remove the tray icons.
http://www.freewareppc.com/download/utilities/ceregeditor.shtml
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hi gtti148
Thanks for reply friend but ive tryed numerous times with diffrent roms... but the reg code he is on about doesnt exist
i just noticed that the fourm that u link to is in the polaris fourms!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368836&highlight=remove+tray
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The Polaris probibly configured diffrently to hermes or your orbit 2
lets keep searching!

system tray bar
Hey pal, i've tried a few different things and found out that the prog in question is called o2c.exe (thats on my device anyway, maybe the same on the hermes). I found a thread that said rename the "o2c.exe" and replace it with "dciNobar.exe" renamed to 02c.exe, I tried this but it got rid of the soft keys (not what i wanted), so i just renamed 02c.exe to 02c_orig.exe (in file explorer), soft rest my device and hey presto no system tray, all that popped up was an error message saying it can't find o2c.exe or it is not trusted.
btw added these two little proggies (within zip) and my phone is now super sexy.

"but can't find a registry editor thats free."
odd i cant even mention one thats not free
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
or total commander it's free too

gtti148 said:
Hey pal, i've tried a few different things and found out that the prog in question is called o2c.exe (thats on my device anyway, maybe the same on the hermes). I found a thread that said rename the "o2c.exe" and replace it with "dciNobar.exe" renamed to 02c.exe, I tried this but it got rid of the soft keys (not what i wanted), so i just renamed 02c.exe to 02c_orig.exe (in file explorer), soft rest my device and hey presto no system tray, all that popped up was an error message saying it can't find o2c.exe or it is not trusted.
btw added these two little proggies (within zip) and my phone is now super sexy.
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hi again pal, no i dont have an o2x on my hermes but glad u got rid of the stupid bar! are you running wm5? because im running wm6....
n thank for the themes but im on a red theme and it goes really well with the black caseing lol
quick question.... does anyone have a spare silver casing for the hermes?? oe know where i can find one?

Simliest Diary

Hi PPC mages, I've got a small problem. I've tried to search a very easy program which resembles the classic paper diary.
Idea of this soft.. Screen which has seven parts (basically days). Every Day should have a date and maybe names (because of name days). Into these "tabs" I need only to write. Not ringing, no pop-ups, no vibrations, nothing, just type on keyboard. Don't know if I'm able to write about my idea in english so imagine one list of the simplest diary and you'll got sense of my idea.
My question is simple.. Does this soft (or very similar) exist? Or can it be programmed by any good man/woman? I think it would't be so hard and I will be very grateful for that.
Remember I don't want any calendar - am owner of Calendar touch and it isn't the way of annotation I want.
Thanks for reading and especially for answers!

Hmm... Excel?

Great idea but not as elegant as simple software..

I'm not sure exactly what you want, but have a look at Phatnotes:
http://www.phatware.com/index.php?q=product/details/phatnotes/screenshots
This is very customizable and will let you have a blank page per day with buttons for seven days and weeks.
Perhaps this works for you ?

If you were Japanase I would strongly recommand this one : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=41640
Reading the translated doc, I could configure it easily, and even if there are some display bugs due to japanase font replaced by squares, the result is quite usable and simple.
I dream that someone makes the same in english, french.

Thanks for tips, now I'm going to try the first one (hope it wouldnt be hard to cutomize it). The second one doesn't seem to be just diary, it is very similar to normal calendar. I'm surprised that the sipliest normal diary doesn't exist, but maybe someone will find anything.
Thans again!

Unluckily it wasn't what I need, but thanks..
I've made a very simple picture to explain my idea when my english isn't so good .
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e249/Sean880/Diary.jpg
This is a basic idea of appearance. And functions?
1) Slide to right/left - go to next/previous week (princip of book)
2) Type into the lines (maybe with possibility to set up the font - color?/bold/italic)
3) Possibility to change names in any system file (depend on country) - it makes easy future translations
4) Next features - changing colors based on days etc.
I'm completely amateur so I don't know anything about software making but I still think this software wouldn't be so hard to develop, am I right?
Thanks for reflections!

Hmm it seems that similar program doesn't exist but would it be really hard to develop it?

whats going on here

Hi all,
please excuse the vagueness of this post.
I have just been given a tp2 as a replacement to my td2
My wife also has the tp2 which she got a year ago
the whole look of the phone (software ) is totally diferent
for instance the program page used to list a few progs (your choice) and then you had to hit all progs to get them up.
i am guessing that its a different rom or different version of sense?
also how do i change/edit/remove some programs from the list?
cheers guys

you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.

thanks for that
sorry to be thick but does that just enable me to move the prog icons or delete the progs as well
appreciate the help

thesyntax said:
you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.
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You don't need to edit the registry to turn off Manila. This is easily done from the Today settings.

hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks

stringman said:
hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks
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Different issues, my friend. Sense is the UI (aka Manila versions 2.1 and 2.5) you see when you start the phone. It is on by default, but you can turn it off in the Today setup and use the much less memory intensive standard Window Mobile screen. Go into the Today setup and turn off Sense by removing the check mark in the list and putting a check mark on Windows Default.
As for the bloatware that comes with the phone, anything on the ROM can not be removed except by flashing a new ROM. You can delete shortcuts from your start menu for programs you don't/won't use, but the programs will still be there. Do a search for Crud Scraper, a neat little tool that can 'remove' stuff from specific phone models (it worked great on my Tilt 2). Beyond that, read up as much as you can on modding your phone. This place is a great resource. Unfortunately, easy answers are hard to come by. You have to roll up your sleeves and get a little dirty.