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T9 input method - *UPDATE*

Hello everyone.
Thanks to all those people offering their services as beta testers.
I have begun work on the T9 input method. I would like some help in designing a skin. This needs to be a .bmp file. I will send you the initial bmp I have used for testing, and you should use similar layout for the buttons.
I don't mind if the layout changes, as long as it is easy to use with fingers (not stylus).
The size of the bitmap, however, must not change. It should be 240 x 160.
The yellow area I included for two function buttons (ie, change word, and number mode) 1 will do a space, and 0 will do punctuation.
To the administrators - could you possibly stick the bitmap on the site somewhere, as I don't have a server to use for downloads?

Martin,
First of all, u can use my server for storage, i figure the files r small so it wont mather. just e-mail me the files, or just put in a zip, and i'll send u the link. second I like to see if i can come up with a nice design.

Yeah, no probs.
I've also realise the keypad used for the phone is exactly the right size for me. So If you want to reskin the phone (maybe relable some of the buttons if it would make using it easir), then that is fine.

Everbody,
Here is the file from Martin. http://www.stoelman.com/T9_sms.bmp

Ok people... we've come up with an initial design for the keypad, and I've done the initial work on the T9 input panel. I have a suitable skin, and will be working with this to create button positions.
This skin is not final, and may be changed as we work on the functionality, but when it has been finalised, I will be opening up for new skins to be created. It is anticipated that this will be configurable on the final release, so you will not need to be disappointed if yours isn't chosen!
I am now writing the business logic. I hope to get plenty of work done this weekend, and I'll keep you all informed of progress.
Thanks
Martin

Martin,
How's your project comming along? is it allready far enough for beta testing.

Unfortunately not yet. I'm currently waiting for some dictionary stuff. As soon as I have that, it can continue.
Regards
Martin

UPDATE
Just to update you. I have been in touch with tegic over the licensing of T9. We are currently discussing this.
I have to warn you, though, that because i have to license T9 from Tegic, there will be royalties to pay. I don't yet know the amount, but I'm guessing at about £15 per unit sold. In order to provide assurances to Tegic, the software will have to be licensed based on the IMEI of the target device.
I will keep you all informed of the progress of these negotiations, if they even get beyond this stage.

Big corporates
Nice idea, I have used the t9 on many phones for years.
Siemens c35 and ME45, Sony j3e, Nokia 6310i.
Would making something similar not just simply work? or simplifing the keypad in this way is totally owned by t9 ?
I look forward to a bit of beta testing...

I would like to find a way around it. But it's difficult to get hold of an 'ideal' word list that is compressed, contains 'appropriate' words of the right quantity. and is indexed. I can do the indexing if a good dic is found.
I could also look at alternatives - just awaiting some more communication from T9.

I have done something similar for Palm with graphitti (graphitti can be hell, too ;-)) and would offer u any help u need.

Orange Homescreen on non orange phone? (customization)

hello to all
I installed Orange Homescreen on my WM5 blue-angel.
It it by far the cleanest plug-in I've ever used! Two problems though:
1. The URLs seem to be hard coded - anyway of changing that?
2. On the contacts "tab" there is an option for speed dial, but it generates an error when I try to use it - is there some other CAB I need to install?
Thank you!

Hi AdmiralAK,
I love the Orange today plugin too, but have had a lot of trouble installing it on the other Rom's for my Universal. Can you tell which files you used to install it :?:
As for the problems your having:
1. The URL's can be changed by editing the Full_one.xml file.
But your still limited to four.
2. In the Orange Rom, some of the files have a lower case t prefix.
Try changing renaming your speed dial executable. It might work :wink:

Thanks!
I downloaded the homescreen cab from somewhere on this board (this was a few days ago so I am not completely sure). I found two versions. One was in the ftp://xda-developers.com/Universal/Extended_ROMs/Orange Extended ROM/
(this one I did not install because I had the otherone already installed)
(ok after a little looking I found it)
I am actually using the Orange Homescreen from the Orange SPV M3100 (hermes device) - this is the one that is installed on my Blue angel and it works without a problem. --> I am attaching it.
(I apologize to the forum for postnig the same file again - I cannot find the link to it)
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As for the speed dialer - I don't think I have the application installed on my blue angel (I am using the 1.3beta rom from HELMI and I don't seem to be able to find it) in my device - any idea where to get it?
Also, is the XML file that I need to edit in the windows/ directory?
Thanks

google tells me that the full_one.xml file is in my windows directory...but I dont see it :-/

The CAB from the Orange Ext ROM is just the reg settings, its no good without the files from the Orange ROM.
I'll try the file you posted this weekend [if I get the chance] :?
Yes, the XML file is in the Windows folder.
It works inconjuction with the HomeScreen.dll, with some icons stored in contactsico.dll.
I've added these files and the prefixed t files from the Windows folder of my Universal, I hope they're useful.

Have you tried the file ?

Hmm.. performing back up now.. and going to try it out. Hope it is easy to uninstall.
[UPDATE]
Ok, tested out the plugin. It is a nice plugin. Make your phone more like a phone than a PDA. It gives you one hand operation by using the direction buttons, making calls and stuff. However, since it will disable all other plugins, I won't recommend others whom uses Today calendar plugins such as Pocket Breeze, TodayAgenda, TodayPlus, etc.. to use this orange plugin. Uninstall is easy.
Screen shot of it here http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article569.html
under the section `INSIDE`. It is the same for smart phone and pda phone. You will see all the options available. And the 'Today' option actually sends you to the (built in) Calendar day view.

Hi, have you used the cab file and zip file above ?

Ok, I tried the plugin posted here by AdmiralAK, on my Universal.
First thing I noticed was it actually ran on the O2 ROM.
Second thing was how small the icons are compared to the plguin built into the Orange Universal ROM.
But I guess that makes sence as the screens are very different sizes. More importantly must of the plugin works fine.
I'm sure a little editing would probably have it all working.
What I did notice is its totally different to the Universal plugin, none of the files i've edited to get the universal version working the way I want it to, exist in this version. Hence the Full_one.xml, t* and .bmh files are not in the Windows folder.
I've gone back to the Orange ROM, as I have it running the way I want and the bigger icons are easier to use on the Universal. But i'll be keeping this version as I may get a TyTn next year.

Cool program. But too bad, limited customizable.
Hi people,
Great software, I was looking to try this on my MDA Vario. Too bad of it's limitations. Good to try out and see how it works.
Though I was thinking of visually designing a kind of similar application and find some great developers on this site to help me create it. Of course if anyone is interested in this kind of functionality.
Anyone already interested? let me know. i hope to have some draft ideas on here in the form of screenshots as soon as possible. but now it's diner time see ya.
Cheers,
Shah.

I have tried editing the 'full_one.xml' file, then soft reset....however it hasn't changed anything...
did i miss something?

Hi guy,
I've tried to resize the icon of plug-in and it's ok in portrait but no in landscape, I think it's a registry problem for landscape.
I'd like to use the plug-in on no orange rom.
I'll find the way to get more than 4 custom option but i get without icon.
The file full_one.xml is linked with other file of the orange rom so I think that's one problem.

@Shah2,
I'd be interested in a plugin like this, that has a few more options [see below] and works on all ROM's.
I have no programing skills or abilities, but i'd help out where I can. :wink:
@minty1978,
The Full_one.xml file only lets you edit the Labels and the URL's in the plugin.
@filippodisvevia,
I'd like to use the plug-in on a none Orange ROM too.
Then I wouldn't have to kepp hiding my Universal from the IT guys at work. :lol:
The 3 things I'd like to change on the plugin are:
1. Have more than 5 URL's in the Web section.
2. Have more than 4 programs in the Launch section.
3. Have all seven sections appear on the screen [at least in portrate mode][/i]

I'm a littlebit busy but I want resolve this match.
Stay tuned

Concept Orange Homescreen Pimped Beta 0.1
Hi people,
I told ya that I was interested in making the Orange Homescreen even better than it is at the moment.
THESE ARE PURELY PHOTOSHOP MOCKUPS!
Image number 1 shows the use of today plugin as we know them. It's just to give an example. All the other screens speak for themselves.
If anyone has his/her own ideas please share them in this thread. I would also like to draw the attention of developers who might be interested in creating this for real, and not just some photoshop images, please let me know.
Cheers,
Shah

Hi Shah,
Thats way more complex, than I was looking for. :shock:
But, If this was to be built as a new plugin, hopefully it could be scalable, using a .ini or .xml file. Like the real Orange plugin does. 8)
The only I don't really like, is the other plugins showing as in pic.1.
I have other plugins switched on while i'm at work, and the Orange one at night. I find the empty desktop more relaxing. :wink:

ZaForD said:
Hi Shah,
Thats way more complex, than I was looking for. :shock:
But, If this was to be built as a new plugin, hopefully it could be scalable, using a .ini or .xml file. Like the real Orange plugin does. 8)
The only I don't really like, is the other plugins showing as in pic.1.
I have other plugins switched on while i'm at work, and the Orange one at night. I find the empty desktop more relaxing. :wink:
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Hi ZaForD
The complexity is actually quite limited. Because if you use the plugin most of the options are the same. Most of the items are just additions to the rest of the plugin.
And for the pic 1. I can image it's not that nice. But with input we can work on making it more general so that people will like it.
Personally I would like to have the standaard Today screen plugins visible because they are still usefull.
It's also a possibility that all the items are configerable to meet users needs. For example standaard options like the original homescreen for users that want the basic functionalities, and advanced options for users who want more options. so that every page is user configerable.
Anything is possible in Photoshop haha. but seriously if there are any developers who are interested please leave a note.
Cheers,
Shah

I stopped using the plugin - no matter how much I liked it - because it did not show me tasks tat need to be done.
I would be interested in something more complex than it is now (at least show me my tasks) but maybe not as complex as the mockups. scalability would be cool

What do you think he is trying to do?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=63214&highlight=

Any updates on this?
I have a Prophet and tested the plugin, however there are some things that I can't edit (cause I don't have an Orange ROM)...

Auto Text or Auto Correct Applications

I've been using my Dash on the weekends at certain times instead of my tytn and I am desperately looking for an autotext or autocorrect applicaton. Basically, I do a tremendous amount of emails on my phone and this application allows me to type in three letters in an email like "mrq" and have it replaced with "meeting request" or "btw" and replace it with "by the way". I use Kai' autocorrect.net on my tytn and it lets me write emails so much faster.
the xt9 on the dash is an annoyance and does not perform the same function.
Qoolapps makes qcaps and qcorrect, but it only works on the motorola q.

Bumping this up to the top again. If anyone has any suggestions, please help. I really need this.

Bump here --- (AUTOTEXT solutions for WM5/6)
I have used Kai Autocorrect but recently it seems to have issues with some of the WM6 ROM's - can't pin it down so input on that would be great.
But also if there are any other options - it amazes me this is such a simple yet killer app for the BB .... example type bb = Blackberry .. type wm = WindowsMobile.... thxm = Thanks Much!
Not using mouse stylus and all that jazz just on the fly word conversion and completion with a self defined library of words. AutoCorrect again does most but has not been updated in a long time.
Thanks for anything ---

I am confused, too: used it on a Excalibur? I thought it runs only on PPC??
ckolibab said:
I have used Kai Autocorrect but recently it seems to have issues with some of the WM6 ROM's - can't pin it down so input on that would be great.
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Thanks for anything ---
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XT9 (DB edit) or Autocorrect alternative.....
Correct -
The issue is the WM6 Smartphone version and PPC versions differ in how they do Autocorrect - which for many is brutal pain..... the PPC version has in /windows a hidden file called autocorrect.0409.txt which can be manipulated to add/delete words from your dictionary and you can control it.
The Smartphone/WM6 since it uses ughhhl XT9 yada it uses a different DB which is apparently tough to edit - manipulate - to anything with.
As much as I wish the Smartphone worked like the PPC, I think I am hoping for a prayer here that won't happen - so I see only 2 options that would get us close to that:
1 - Some way to get control to add/edit change this XT9 DB
2 - An add-in app (which I have asked a Dev to look at but says its rough) to run resident and give us the same as what exists on the PPC/WM6 on the smartphone.
The sad part is all in all I could see the SmartPhone needing this even MORE since it's keyboards are usually smaller any anything to minimize keystrokes is key.
This is so sad --- Anyone that can help I would be so grateful. Even if there is some way to port some of the WM6/PPC ROM components over would be VERY NICE!!!

bump
A call to all developers ... this is the only thing I miss from my BlackBerry ....
Someone must be able to amend either QCaps or MagicKBLite to work?

[Resource] Adding More Programs in Program Tab

Hey guys, I've been messing around with my HD in the registry before doing a master reset and found how to add more programs to the programs tab (in case 24 is not enough for you)
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher
(once u navigate there, add new keys (starting with 24) and copy and paste the DispName, IconPath, IsReadOnly, and Path from one of the previous keys)
PS, sorry if this was already posted, I tried searching for it but couldn't find it.
Otherwise, enjoy

hey thats really cool I'm going to try that now!
Is it possible to also add more than one application tab?

Looks promising, but I must be doing something wrong. I do get the '+' icons to add new programs but when I add a program it doesn't show, not even ofter a soft reset. Will try a bit more...
edit: Noticed in the registry that it does change the key's Path and DispName entries but somehow it just won't show... Odd.

Did anybody get this working? It would be nice to have a few more spaces for programs.

No, the maximum of activ program is 24 "+" and not more aviable.
Jes, you can make more then 24 "+", but not activ with program`s.

Too bad, thanks. It still strikes me as odd, but I've had so many HTC /WM phones that by now 'odd' actually became the norm
Thanks again

sorry guys, I didn't actually try adding a program to the plus (as I didn't have the need, I just assumed it would work when I saw the '+'), but hey, who knows, maybe it's a two part process and we just have to find another registry which will allow us to assign the programs. Once again, sorry for not fully testing before posting. (and PS, from what I remember, the diamond only had 16 or 20 '+' for programs, so I'm thinking that there is indeed a way to assign more programs, though it might be not worth the trouble)

Tasks on lock screen app

I was looking for some sort of a solution of this with no luck, any tips welcome.
Basically what I was looking for was an app or a tweak which would show TASKS on the lock screen (the screen when phone is locked and you have to use for example a slider (Miri rom) to open it) since there is so much empty space and there is no reasonable way to put the tasks on Today screen.
Any ideas and tips very much appreciated.

hmm, i think S2U2 is capable of doing this. it is a free screen locking application.
according to the changelog here:
http://htcwinmobile.blogspot.com/2009/06/acs-s2u2-v201.html
it is capable of doing it, but i've just had a quick look in the applications settings (i have it installed) and can't seem to find the option, but it would be worth a try

S2U2 does show tasks icon the lock screen but it is only a figure(how many tasks are scheduled). If you use the appointments these will show as full descriptions, until completed, and you can have up to 7 appointments over a number of weeks (I think its about 4 weeks).Really good and I have no problems on Duttys Rom 6.5 R11

thanks for the handy pointers, will give it a try.

hmm, so I've tried that and I'm not very impressed. I'm not particularly keen on the whole S2U2, seems a bit cumbersome and overall like an "i" wannabe... there is somewhat the option of displaying the tasks on the lockscreen but as far as I'm concerned there is no way of removing the whole S2U2 interface and keeping just the tasks..which is, ultimately, what I'd want.
Thanks for the tip anyway but don't think this is gonna work.
Can't believe I'm the only one trying to get this sorted(!), it is such a fundamental thing to see tasks frequently without having to access something..even my old N95 did that right.
Anyway, if anyone knew about something, give us a shout.
Cheers
Z.

For years (!) I wanted to have my tasks on todayscreen (and/or on lock screen). I never understood why this was possible only on oldschool-WinMobile-todayscreen WITH special programs (SPB Diary). I believe it's a BASIC feature - and like you I asked myself if really noone needs this?
After getting my new Touch HD I love to have a stylish todayscreen - but I hate not to see appointments/tasks (neither with manila nor winmobile 6.5-today).
So if there is ANY solution: YES I want it too!

I could have probably lived with S2U2 as long as the tasks would be at least showing by themselves rather than you having to press & hold on the icon
...that's like as close it gets to the desired result...future s2u2 update might fix that but again, you have to get the whole app (for locking) to get this small, though very important feature... kinda disappointing...

I`d also like having task on today or lock screen as old non colour Windows CE devices did. Why had disappeared? I don´t know and I can´t understand. I hope somebody can help us.

I want it too please. I would like something like Lockinfo for the iphone.