Hi all,
please excuse the vagueness of this post.
I have just been given a tp2 as a replacement to my td2
My wife also has the tp2 which she got a year ago
the whole look of the phone (software ) is totally diferent
for instance the program page used to list a few progs (your choice) and then you had to hit all progs to get them up.
i am guessing that its a different rom or different version of sense?
also how do i change/edit/remove some programs from the list?
cheers guys
you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.
thanks for that
sorry to be thick but does that just enable me to move the prog icons or delete the progs as well
appreciate the help
thesyntax said:
you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.
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You don't need to edit the registry to turn off Manila. This is easily done from the Today settings.
hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks
stringman said:
hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks
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Different issues, my friend. Sense is the UI (aka Manila versions 2.1 and 2.5) you see when you start the phone. It is on by default, but you can turn it off in the Today setup and use the much less memory intensive standard Window Mobile screen. Go into the Today setup and turn off Sense by removing the check mark in the list and putting a check mark on Windows Default.
As for the bloatware that comes with the phone, anything on the ROM can not be removed except by flashing a new ROM. You can delete shortcuts from your start menu for programs you don't/won't use, but the programs will still be there. Do a search for Crud Scraper, a neat little tool that can 'remove' stuff from specific phone models (it worked great on my Tilt 2). Beyond that, read up as much as you can on modding your phone. This place is a great resource. Unfortunately, easy answers are hard to come by. You have to roll up your sleeves and get a little dirty.
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hello to all
I installed Orange Homescreen on my WM5 blue-angel.
It it by far the cleanest plug-in I've ever used! Two problems though:
1. The URLs seem to be hard coded - anyway of changing that?
2. On the contacts "tab" there is an option for speed dial, but it generates an error when I try to use it - is there some other CAB I need to install?
Thank you!
Hi AdmiralAK,
I love the Orange today plugin too, but have had a lot of trouble installing it on the other Rom's for my Universal. Can you tell which files you used to install it :?:
As for the problems your having:
1. The URL's can be changed by editing the Full_one.xml file.
But your still limited to four.
2. In the Orange Rom, some of the files have a lower case t prefix.
Try changing renaming your speed dial executable. It might work :wink:
Thanks!
I downloaded the homescreen cab from somewhere on this board (this was a few days ago so I am not completely sure). I found two versions. One was in the ftp://xda-developers.com/Universal/Extended_ROMs/Orange Extended ROM/
(this one I did not install because I had the otherone already installed)
(ok after a little looking I found it)
I am actually using the Orange Homescreen from the Orange SPV M3100 (hermes device) - this is the one that is installed on my Blue angel and it works without a problem. --> I am attaching it.
(I apologize to the forum for postnig the same file again - I cannot find the link to it)
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As for the speed dialer - I don't think I have the application installed on my blue angel (I am using the 1.3beta rom from HELMI and I don't seem to be able to find it) in my device - any idea where to get it?
Also, is the XML file that I need to edit in the windows/ directory?
Thanks
google tells me that the full_one.xml file is in my windows directory...but I dont see it :-/
The CAB from the Orange Ext ROM is just the reg settings, its no good without the files from the Orange ROM.
I'll try the file you posted this weekend [if I get the chance] :?
Yes, the XML file is in the Windows folder.
It works inconjuction with the HomeScreen.dll, with some icons stored in contactsico.dll.
I've added these files and the prefixed t files from the Windows folder of my Universal, I hope they're useful.
Have you tried the file ?
Hmm.. performing back up now.. and going to try it out. Hope it is easy to uninstall.
[UPDATE]
Ok, tested out the plugin. It is a nice plugin. Make your phone more like a phone than a PDA. It gives you one hand operation by using the direction buttons, making calls and stuff. However, since it will disable all other plugins, I won't recommend others whom uses Today calendar plugins such as Pocket Breeze, TodayAgenda, TodayPlus, etc.. to use this orange plugin. Uninstall is easy.
Screen shot of it here http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article569.html
under the section `INSIDE`. It is the same for smart phone and pda phone. You will see all the options available. And the 'Today' option actually sends you to the (built in) Calendar day view.
Hi, have you used the cab file and zip file above ?
Ok, I tried the plugin posted here by AdmiralAK, on my Universal.
First thing I noticed was it actually ran on the O2 ROM.
Second thing was how small the icons are compared to the plguin built into the Orange Universal ROM.
But I guess that makes sence as the screens are very different sizes. More importantly must of the plugin works fine.
I'm sure a little editing would probably have it all working.
What I did notice is its totally different to the Universal plugin, none of the files i've edited to get the universal version working the way I want it to, exist in this version. Hence the Full_one.xml, t* and .bmh files are not in the Windows folder.
I've gone back to the Orange ROM, as I have it running the way I want and the bigger icons are easier to use on the Universal. But i'll be keeping this version as I may get a TyTn next year.
Cool program. But too bad, limited customizable.
Hi people,
Great software, I was looking to try this on my MDA Vario. Too bad of it's limitations. Good to try out and see how it works.
Though I was thinking of visually designing a kind of similar application and find some great developers on this site to help me create it. Of course if anyone is interested in this kind of functionality.
Anyone already interested? let me know. i hope to have some draft ideas on here in the form of screenshots as soon as possible. but now it's diner time see ya.
Cheers,
Shah.
I have tried editing the 'full_one.xml' file, then soft reset....however it hasn't changed anything...
did i miss something?
Hi guy,
I've tried to resize the icon of plug-in and it's ok in portrait but no in landscape, I think it's a registry problem for landscape.
I'd like to use the plug-in on no orange rom.
I'll find the way to get more than 4 custom option but i get without icon.
The file full_one.xml is linked with other file of the orange rom so I think that's one problem.
@Shah2,
I'd be interested in a plugin like this, that has a few more options [see below] and works on all ROM's.
I have no programing skills or abilities, but i'd help out where I can. :wink:
@minty1978,
The Full_one.xml file only lets you edit the Labels and the URL's in the plugin.
@filippodisvevia,
I'd like to use the plug-in on a none Orange ROM too.
Then I wouldn't have to kepp hiding my Universal from the IT guys at work. :lol:
The 3 things I'd like to change on the plugin are:
1. Have more than 5 URL's in the Web section.
2. Have more than 4 programs in the Launch section.
3. Have all seven sections appear on the screen [at least in portrate mode][/i]
I'm a littlebit busy but I want resolve this match.
Stay tuned
Concept Orange Homescreen Pimped Beta 0.1
Hi people,
I told ya that I was interested in making the Orange Homescreen even better than it is at the moment.
THESE ARE PURELY PHOTOSHOP MOCKUPS!
Image number 1 shows the use of today plugin as we know them. It's just to give an example. All the other screens speak for themselves.
If anyone has his/her own ideas please share them in this thread. I would also like to draw the attention of developers who might be interested in creating this for real, and not just some photoshop images, please let me know.
Cheers,
Shah
Hi Shah,
Thats way more complex, than I was looking for. :shock:
But, If this was to be built as a new plugin, hopefully it could be scalable, using a .ini or .xml file. Like the real Orange plugin does. 8)
The only I don't really like, is the other plugins showing as in pic.1.
I have other plugins switched on while i'm at work, and the Orange one at night. I find the empty desktop more relaxing. :wink:
ZaForD said:
Hi Shah,
Thats way more complex, than I was looking for. :shock:
But, If this was to be built as a new plugin, hopefully it could be scalable, using a .ini or .xml file. Like the real Orange plugin does. 8)
The only I don't really like, is the other plugins showing as in pic.1.
I have other plugins switched on while i'm at work, and the Orange one at night. I find the empty desktop more relaxing. :wink:
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Hi ZaForD
The complexity is actually quite limited. Because if you use the plugin most of the options are the same. Most of the items are just additions to the rest of the plugin.
And for the pic 1. I can image it's not that nice. But with input we can work on making it more general so that people will like it.
Personally I would like to have the standaard Today screen plugins visible because they are still usefull.
It's also a possibility that all the items are configerable to meet users needs. For example standaard options like the original homescreen for users that want the basic functionalities, and advanced options for users who want more options. so that every page is user configerable.
Anything is possible in Photoshop haha. but seriously if there are any developers who are interested please leave a note.
Cheers,
Shah
I stopped using the plugin - no matter how much I liked it - because it did not show me tasks tat need to be done.
I would be interested in something more complex than it is now (at least show me my tasks) but maybe not as complex as the mockups. scalability would be cool
What do you think he is trying to do?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=63214&highlight=
Any updates on this?
I have a Prophet and tested the plugin, however there are some things that I can't edit (cause I don't have an Orange ROM)...
Hey guys, I've been messing around with my HD in the registry before doing a master reset and found how to add more programs to the programs tab (in case 24 is not enough for you)
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher
(once u navigate there, add new keys (starting with 24) and copy and paste the DispName, IconPath, IsReadOnly, and Path from one of the previous keys)
PS, sorry if this was already posted, I tried searching for it but couldn't find it.
Otherwise, enjoy
hey thats really cool I'm going to try that now!
Is it possible to also add more than one application tab?
Looks promising, but I must be doing something wrong. I do get the '+' icons to add new programs but when I add a program it doesn't show, not even ofter a soft reset. Will try a bit more...
edit: Noticed in the registry that it does change the key's Path and DispName entries but somehow it just won't show... Odd.
Did anybody get this working? It would be nice to have a few more spaces for programs.
No, the maximum of activ program is 24 "+" and not more aviable.
Jes, you can make more then 24 "+", but not activ with program`s.
Too bad, thanks. It still strikes me as odd, but I've had so many HTC /WM phones that by now 'odd' actually became the norm
Thanks again
sorry guys, I didn't actually try adding a program to the plus (as I didn't have the need, I just assumed it would work when I saw the '+'), but hey, who knows, maybe it's a two part process and we just have to find another registry which will allow us to assign the programs. Once again, sorry for not fully testing before posting. (and PS, from what I remember, the diamond only had 16 or 20 '+' for programs, so I'm thinking that there is indeed a way to assign more programs, though it might be not worth the trouble)
I'm not at all technical, and therfore nervous about completely changing the ROM on my HD. I'm also paranoid about touching the registery, because I don't know what I'm doing.
There are 2 things i'd like to do:
1) modify the tabs at the bottom of the screen to get rid of all the garbage that my carrier put there, and customise it to what i want.
2) have the ability to change the functionality of the soft keys below the screen
Is there a utility or program that does either or both of these things.
Many thanks
Lost too!
Hi
im new here too! still wondering n lost about the terms and acronyms used here.
Whats TF3D? wats Manila? how do i normalise back a certain add-ons which i dun like? do i need a certain additional program to install certain add-ons? gosh, im so lost!
juz bought the phone but nothing has been done yet..
any BASIC/MUST-HAVE applications or add-ons as a start as a base?
Many thanks!
You can always flash a new ROM (thats the core.. the OS and basic apps.. and on your phone all that stuff you operator added) theres a wiki how to do it. Flashing a rom is similar to flashing the bios on your PC. Most things are editable. You can get "Cooked" ROMs those are Cores that people have modified, added to, customized and tweaked.
manila is the the tab interface you see on touch phones there's Manila 2d and newer TF3D - (TouchFlo 3d)
There's tons of freeware and opensource available and what is "must" have is largely opinion and what you do with your phone. it's good to browse here for apps and in Blackstone/ROMs for ROMs.
things to be aware of your phone is WVGA.. big screen not all apps will fill it if they are qvga or vga. also you have almost no buttons so everything is touch... this can be a problem with some apps as they expect/require buttons. But newer apps are improving to support purely touch base control.
hope this helps you can always msg me if u have questions.
sophian84 said:
Hi
im new here too! still wondering n lost about the terms and acronyms used here.
Whats TF3D? wats Manila? how do i normalise back a certain add-ons which i dun like? do i need a certain additional program to install certain add-ons? gosh, im so lost!
juz bought the phone but nothing has been done yet..
any BASIC/MUST-HAVE applications or add-ons as a start as a base?
Many thanks!
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Most addons come as .cab files you copy them to your phone and execute then.. run them and theyll install.. theyll ask phone memory or card storage. i put most things on the card and only install key things for the phone to run in its memory. to uninstall any cab or some programs that are exe and you run from desktop they install to phone. you can uninstall them either from activesync remove programs, or from your phone settings/system/ remove program and they uninstall.
bfi2906 said:
I'm not at all technical, and therfore nervous about completely changing the ROM on my HD. I'm also paranoid about touching the registery, because I don't know what I'm doing.
There are 2 things i'd like to do:
1) modify the tabs at the bottom of the screen to get rid of all the garbage that my carrier put there, and customise it to what i want.
2) have the ability to change the functionality of the soft keys below the screen
Is there a utility or program that does either or both of these things.
Many thanks
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Please don't try to change the ROM now, I would recommend you play first with the HD and learn it.
Answers:
1. There are many options - one is:
Stevedpl7 TF3D Tab Icon Theme 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ight=stevedpl7
2. You can program the soft keys in many of the config tools - one is:
JS Advanced Configuration Tool 3.3 http://www.touchxperience.com/en/adv...tion-tool.html
Finally, while the application list is always personal, I suggest reviewing mine at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3117017&highlight=secondtoday#post3117017
Good luck !
Thank you sooo much guys - that's about the level of tech-ness I can cope with right now. I think I'll shy away from loading a new ROM for a while, as suggested. I just sounds like it'd too risky for a dunce like me, and the consequences appear to be potentially quite dire.
I have found and installed HDTweaks, and that allowed me to configure the softkeys. Now all I have to do is find a way to change / reallocate / rearrange the tabs.
Thanks again for your "sympathy" and help.
Cheers.
Hi guys. Just switched from Kaiser to Rhodium and so far love it...
However, I'm already starting to get a bit annoyed by the Start Menu replacement that comes with TF3D2.
Is there an app or a reg-hack that i can run to go back to good ol' 6.1 Start Menu?
Only reason I ask is because for some reason my TomTom install hasn't put an entry in the all programs list so to launch it I have to go Start, All Programs, File Explorer, My Device, Navigator, TomTom...which I'm sure you will agree is somewhat cumbersome.
Or if anyone has some magical way to add folders/shortcuts into the TF3D2 menus that would also work fine for me!
OK figured out how to create a shortcut, and subsequently add it to the quick launcher.
Still a bit confused as to why stuff that should be (and is) in folders (i.e. S2U2) is shown as a list.
For that reason, can I enable folder view, or can I disable the task launcher altogether and go back to good old windows mobile start menu?
I've tried the TF3D2 tweak app and that doesn't seem to do anything at all!
Why not try the solution here. Hope that helps,
Dave
Many thanks!
I thought we can just turn it off from the Today settings screen? (Just untick TouchFlo3D from it)
you can, but that turns off the whole of touchflo3d rather than just the start menu/program manager
dazultra2000 said:
Hi guys. Just switched from Kaiser to Rhodium and so far love it...
However, I'm already starting to get a bit annoyed by the Start Menu replacement that comes with TF3D2.
Or if anyone has some magical way to add folders/shortcuts into the TF3D2 menus that would also work fine for me!
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Use Explorer and navigate to your Windows\StartMenu\Programs\ folder and paste shortcuts to your applications.
They should appear in the Programs list now.
Hope this helped you
the answer is in the tweaks thread.
Hi all!
I've installed a new skin to my TP2 (that was a big fault) everything was going wrong..
All buttons are completley white, horrible loading animation, etc, etc.
Now I have restored nearly everything. The only problem is that my startmenu is now as the old windows mobile drop-down menu. I want to have my HTC application launcher back. I think that it is a simple register setting...
I've searched here but cannot found a solution.
Can anybody help me with this problem/setting?
Thanks is advance and sorry for my poor English!
Ranney
Check out the sticky. The registry edit is there.
ranney said:
Hi all!
I've installed a new skin to my TP2 (that was a big fault) everything was going wrong..
All buttons are completley white, horrible loading animation, etc, etc.
Now I have restored nearly everything. The only problem is that my startmenu is now as the old windows mobile drop-down menu. I want to have my HTC application launcher back. I think that it is a simple register setting...
I've searched here but cannot found a solution.
Can anybody help me with this problem/setting?
Thanks is advance and sorry for my poor English!
Ranney
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it sounds like you changed your setting for the home page.
try... hit start, hit settings, select today, select items, click HTC sense or touch flow (which ever one you have), hope it helps.
Still not working...
ohyeahar said:
Check out the sticky. The registry edit is there.
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Thanks for the replay, I've already made that register setting, but i have still the old application (/start) menu... I think that the skin (...) has removed more settings.
alwayslearning said:
it sounds like you changed your setting for the home page.
try... hit start, hit settings, select today, select items, click HTC sense or touch flow (which ever one you have), hope it helps.
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Thanks for the replay, but the TF3D is working perfect, just the startmenu is old (with a drop down menu) Not a finger friendly scroll menu
Can someone upload a register file fith the malia settings?
Thanks in advance!
Ranney
Since you messed it up so bad, it may be a better idea to backup your data and do a hard reset.
ohyeahar said:
Since you messed it up so bad, it may be a better idea to backup your data and do a hard reset.
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Good idea, but everything else is working right now, and i was hoping to wait until the wm6.5 version is ut (official) so I can use the installation time for that moment...
Can you help me with a register file from the malia settings? (or do you have other good idea's?
I think that the problem is simple --> I've installed a verry ugly skin. I was trying to remove it but Wimo give me everytime a error (failed to remove....)
So I've uninstalled it with SkTools, but I think that it has not restored the previous settings, but that it hase removed all the register values from the skin file...
Thanks again for all helping people!
Ranney
Personal: This was the problematic skin... ==> [THEME]*Sergio76* [Dark&Light V3.5 Final Uploaded] Full Theme 26/09/09
there is a registry key that changes the start button and start soft button (top left) from opening the quick programs (manila shell) to the drop down menu (windows mobile default). can be found here:
HKLM\Software\EnlargeMenu
"EnableManilaStartMenu"
Change 0 to 1.
Hope that works. this is how I changed my quick programs to drop down menu (I prefer the drop down menu better).
tonefour said:
there is a registry key that changes the start button and start soft button (top left) from opening the quick programs (manila shell) to the drop down menu (windows mobile default). can be found here:
HKLM\Software\EnlargeMenu
"EnableManilaStartMenu"
Change 0 to 1.
Hope that works. this is how I changed my quick programs to drop down menu (I prefer the drop down menu better).
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Thanks for the replay,
I have searched for that register value, but cannot find it.
So I have restored some parts of the register (after a backup) in the HCT/Malia map and the HTC EnlargeMenu (In local machine and Current user). but still not working. it is already a '1' in there.
So my (simple?) conclusion is that there is a deeper problem.
Still missing other register values, or missing files that have to be somewhere to run that program menu...
Anybody else a good idea?
Thanks for al your good idea's and help!
I'm using the device at my work (medical information/patiënt information) so it's nice if I could save the installation and wait until the 6.5 update will come out!
Ranney
Update: Just did a hard reset to my device. Hoping that that will help fixing the problem. the device was after al these problem verry slow too...
Learned: Never install a big skin when I have 10 minutes time to see if I like it
Thanks for al your help (for the last time)
ranney said:
Learned: Never install a big skin when I have 10 minutes time to see if I like it
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hehe. I've hard reseted my phone at least 10 times since the last week I've had this phone. it's the only way to test out apps to find the right one that works for you. I do installs and uninstalls. eventually I will find an app that [email protected]#$ up my phone, or that works really well. this will be an on going process for at least 3 months until I find what to settle with. It was like that with my Mogul, and it will be like that even more so with the TP2 because it's such an awesome upgrade.