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Help Removing o2 active!!

Hi, i just got an XDA IIs and have been reading up as it does seam to crash regually. and i heard that removing the o2 active peice of crap helps. but i cant find anywhere how to do it?
Cheers Paul

The best way to get rid of O2 active is to hard reset, when the screen apears asking "PRIVATE OR CORPORATE" install select corporate then enter 0506 in the password field.

If you do this back up your phone and address book to the SD card, before you hard reset - do not try to re-install all your programs etc from back up following the hard reset, as doing this re-loads part of the rubish you are trying to get rid of - believe me if you do this it really screws up the handset - I tried it - wouldn't charge in the car, kept locking up etc. The sooner you do the hard reset the easy it will be - less applications to re-load - good luck _ Mike

Hi all,
I to am trying this reset process with an O2 XDA, when it hard resets I am not getting the screen asking me for "PRIVATE OR CORPORATE", any ideas as to why?
Can someone also confirm the Hard Reset sequene?
Many thanks
Paul

what i do is, after the hard reset (and choosing personal) and having it do all its stuff, first, remove/disable all O2 stuff from the today screen (start -> settings -> today -> remove all the o2 stuff in both tabs).
then start -> settings -> remove programs, remove all the o2 active VR stuff.
probably a message will pop up, noting some directories it doesn't remove. after removal is done, just go to file manager, and manually delete those directories.
seems to remove it for me =)

Mackster, you only get about five seconds to select the mode you want, if you don't do anything it will install personel mode as default - Why O2 insist on puting this rubish on there badged machines is beyond me - it makes a nice bit of kit into rubish, Ive had no problems since getting shut of it, even O2 support by phone will tell you to take it off as the first line for most queries - Mike

Paul, the thing I did was hard reset, and when it gives me a warning that programs will be installed in 3 seconds, I did a soft reset. After the soft reset, it won't try to install the programs anymore. I think this gives you the CLEANEST install.
When I did the Corporate setup, it still installed the PDF viewer, blah blah... I would like to control what I put in my PDA, even if they are useful programs. Hope this helps.
Sam

Sorry to dig this topic up, but I was looking for a solution and came up with one myself and thought I'd post it incase it comes in handy for anyone else.
Right, to disable the O2 Active UI from running...
Code:
Programs -> File Explorer
- Go to \Windows\Startup (make sure you have \ not \\ at the beginning if entering a path name)
- Delete the "connections" program
Soft Reset
This should stop the little O2 icon from appearing in the taskbar. For completeness, you'll probably want to stop any of the other O2 apps from running as well...
Code:
settings -> today -> items
- untick o2aui
- untick clockinfo
- untick o2BatteryPlugin
- OK
Soft Reset (to be sure)
Personally, I like the battery plugin, because its actually quite practical. Anyway, if you want to completely remove the software, do as follows...
Code:
Programs -> File Explorer
- Go to \Windows\Fonts
- Delete or rename the xpdr_02 (font) file
Settings -> System -> Remove Programs
- Select the O2 active UI from the list and click remove.
The UI should now be removed. It will probably tell you that it was successful, though some directories remain. You can delete them manually if you wish, but they shouldn't matter.
If you need/want to re-install the O2 software, you can do so from the software CD provided with the XDA, or it may be still available from the add/remove programs menu in ActiveSync.
You'll have probably noticed there's quite a lot of programs in the \Windows\Startup folder. I'm not sure what all of them do, but I bet you can get better start up times by removing some of them. Be careful though!
Enjoy

Thankyou to all that helped me out.
Many thanks
Paul :lol:

Mackster said:
Thankyou to all that helped me out.
Many thanks
Paul :lol:
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Thanks, finally got rid of o2 Active with the help I found here

I think I want to do a corporate install (Because I'm now having problems with vanishing clocks) but was to keep my o2batteryplugin
Does anyone know where it is so I can copy it - I've tried searching but nothing comes up
thanks
Patrick

Maybe it's
windows\batteryinfo.dll
?

sunpat said:
Maybe it's
windows\batteryinfo.dll
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I copied that accroos to my iPaq - doesn't work...;(

Thanks Trin
O2 Active removed successfully - thanks for the help.
Also found how to add the BatteryInfo.dll back in on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26995
Rob

O2 Active removal
Hi,
first hard rest ur device..when it will start installin a few files after u finish da setup...soft rest it..i.e. dun allow it 2 copy files nd u r done.
cheers,
ind

remove O2aui
Hi there,
I have seen so many clever hints how to successfully remove the O2aui from the device that I wonder what's wrong with simply goint to settings/system/remove programs and remove Mobile Solutions SRL O2ActiveUI v... ?
Would this remove more functions that I actually need?
Thanks for your comments.
Cheers

Trin said:
Sorry to dig this topic up, but I was looking for a solution and came up with one myself and thought I'd post it incase it comes in handy for anyone else.
Right, to disable the O2 Active UI from running...
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Trin said:
You've sorted something I've been trying to do for ages. That interface was really annoying.
Thank you.
QF
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ice man said:
The best way to get rid of O2 active is to hard reset, when the screen apears asking "PRIVATE OR CORPORATE" install select corporate then enter 0506 in the password field.
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0506? Thought it was 0504?

quinbus_flestrin said:
Trin said:
Sorry to dig this topic up, but I was looking for a solution and came up with one myself and thought I'd post it incase it comes in handy for anyone else.
Right, to disable the O2 Active UI from running...
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Trin said:
You've sorted something I've been trying to do for ages. That interface was really annoying.
Thank you.
QF
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You guys are amazing.
That company HCT should put you people on a permanent retainer.
I can testify that 0506 works to stop the O2 interface program being installed.
My XDA is now O2-free, and my lady's XDA is running an Orange Pay-as-you-go card.
As good as we think the XDA is, it would be nowhere near as good without this board and forum. The only problem we have had is actually finding the tricks to use.
A sticky or a permanent post would be most helpful. You folks all know how to do things like Hard Re-sets and have forgotten the time when you didn't. Just those two simple things... a hard re-set and that 0506 trick... have profoundly enhanced my use and experience of my XDA.
BTW in case anyone is thinking of buying one, we got a Stowaway Portable Keyboard with one of our XDAs, and we think it's pretty good. You have to remember to turn off the IRD when you want to use the keyboard, but aside from that, it was a good addition for us.
QF
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Remap 'home' button to 'start'

Along the bottom of the phone there's a home button and an endcall which, within programmes, seem to do the same thing - take you back to the today screen. Or, in my case the 6.5 CHome thingy. And the back button in most apps takes you to the home screen too - so that's three buttons largely doing the same thing most of the time.
The new phones with 6.5 preinstalled will have a windows-flag start menu button, I assume this will open up the new hexagony start menu.
Is there a way of remapping the home button so it launches the start menu instead?

That is EXACTLY what I have been thinking for the last days. Pressing Home-key should naturally bring up the start-menu.

Nice idea, even because reaching the top left corner with your right thumb(maybe for left handed it's easier ) while holding the HD with the right hand is a little bit tricky

I'd like something small to do this but I have a feeling most people will return with the suggestion "use aebplus to remap"

I have the same feeling wiggz, There must be a registry key or something that can be changed and put into cab format? Anyone got any ideas?

Me to
So, we are many!!
I too have been looking for a way to do this for ages.
I too will be watching this thread with interest and hope.
Nick

Wiggz said:
I'd like something small to do this but I have a feeling most people will return with the suggestion "use aebplus to remap"
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No aeblus cannot map the home button as it's hard coded into manila!
bonesy said:
I have the same feeling wiggz, There must be a registry key or something that can be changed and put into cab format? Anyone got any ideas?
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so as the home button is coded into manila it mean's one has to play with the manila files and remap to start menu all that would mean is to change some scripts!!
bottomline Home button in theory can be mapped to the start menu!! so it's plausible!!!

i'm going to watch this thread as well --- i've been looking for this since I got hold of my HD. I've already remapped the "back" button to S2U2 via AEB since you are correct, essentially the home, back, and end buttons all work very similarly.
Hoping that someone posts a solution to this!

i have the solution...install this program and you can change all the hard keys to do almost any function...i have mine set up to do the exact same thing that you want it to do!!
cheers!!

i have the solution...install this program and you can change all the hard keys to do almost any function...i have mine set up to do the exact same thing that you want it to do!!
cheers!!

Thanks,but could give more informations to remap keys,please ? The list is empty when i launch the application ...

Same here. I was so happy when I found this thread..

When I tried installing that, it did not work... Maybe it was my ROM.
There are REG keys that remap home in certain cituations, i.e. manilla but I have yet to find a way to get the reg key to do anything else.
The new keypad.dll maps it to a normal vk_lwin, so you can remap it as you like.
Unfortunately I have not yet seen it an any ROM.

gfreek said:
No aeblus cannot map the home button as it's hard coded into manila!
so as the home button is coded into manila it mean's one has to play with the manila files and remap to start menu all that would mean is to change some scripts!!
bottomline Home button in theory can be mapped to the start menu!! so it's plausible!!!
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Ok I take this back if I can get the tool given by jdmsleepr to work!!
jdmsleepr said:
i have the solution...install this program and you can change all the hard keys to do almost any function...i have mine set up to do the exact same thing that you want it to do!!
cheers!!
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Many thanks for this jdmsleepr you sure will make many hd owners very happy if this tool actually works!!
However I have installed this and configured the buttons to my liking but it's not working! upon start up I get error "SMartTouch service is not found" so have I missed something? can you please give us more details on how one configures this tool of yours?

gfreek said:
Ok I take this back if I can get the tool given by jdmsleepr to work!!
Many thanks for this jdmsleepr you sure will make many hd owners very happy if this tool actually works!!
However I have installed this and configured the buttons to my liking but it's not working! upon start up I get error "SMartTouch service is not found" so have I missed something? can you please give us more details on how one configures this tool of yours?
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It is for Diamond and the author says here post 10 "For the touch HD, maybe you should download HTCAPI.DLL somewhere, put it in /Windows and try again". Haven't read the whole thread though so not sure if this is what the problem is.

i know its a little confusing to get it started...so heres what you do...install cab, go to program files\dredsensor and click on dredsensor.exe and a config.ini will appear...now close out whatever app you are using to view files...and open dredsensor...now you will see default under name...tap default and then click menu, then edit...change type to launcher...then go to click and tap the gray box next to the home key...go to events and chose Misc:Start, hit select, hit ok to comfirm, change whatever others you want to...then hit save, then hit ok to confirm...then hit exit...then you should be good to go...hope this helps!!

custardo01 said:
It is for Diamond and the author says here post 10 "For the touch HD, maybe you should download HTCAPI.DLL somewhere, put it in /Windows and try again". Haven't read the whole thread though so not sure if this is what the problem is.
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Hello,my opinion : if you post something in blackstone thread it's normally compatible with this pda , no ?
Edit : i build this cab for our HD and now it works ! Don't forget to do a soft reset .

Marcdu81 said:
Hello,my opinion : if you post something in blackstone thread it's normally compatible with this pda , no ?
Edit : i build this cab for our HD and now it works ! Don't forget to do a soft reset .
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can i know what r the dependencies .. i mean what files r needed for the four buttons to run as i use kitchen... i need to knw ...thanks

not working for me,installed app then fix,selected type:hardkeysimul,set the home to start,tried it and all I get is an error popup which stays onscreen all the time even after soft reset,had to do a hard reset. Any help from you who got this thing working?

Marcdu81 said:
Hello,my opinion : if you post something in blackstone thread it's normally compatible with this pda , no ?
Edit : i build this cab for our HD and now it works ! Don't forget to do a soft reset .
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Thanks! just did this as per your instruction but still no joy!! still get the same error message on start up "SMartTouch service is not found"

TouchFlo3D2 Start Menu

Hi guys. Just switched from Kaiser to Rhodium and so far love it...
However, I'm already starting to get a bit annoyed by the Start Menu replacement that comes with TF3D2.
Is there an app or a reg-hack that i can run to go back to good ol' 6.1 Start Menu?
Only reason I ask is because for some reason my TomTom install hasn't put an entry in the all programs list so to launch it I have to go Start, All Programs, File Explorer, My Device, Navigator, TomTom...which I'm sure you will agree is somewhat cumbersome.
Or if anyone has some magical way to add folders/shortcuts into the TF3D2 menus that would also work fine for me!

OK figured out how to create a shortcut, and subsequently add it to the quick launcher.
Still a bit confused as to why stuff that should be (and is) in folders (i.e. S2U2) is shown as a list.
For that reason, can I enable folder view, or can I disable the task launcher altogether and go back to good old windows mobile start menu?
I've tried the TF3D2 tweak app and that doesn't seem to do anything at all!

Why not try the solution here. Hope that helps,
Dave

Many thanks!

I thought we can just turn it off from the Today settings screen? (Just untick TouchFlo3D from it)

you can, but that turns off the whole of touchflo3d rather than just the start menu/program manager

dazultra2000 said:
Hi guys. Just switched from Kaiser to Rhodium and so far love it...
However, I'm already starting to get a bit annoyed by the Start Menu replacement that comes with TF3D2.
Or if anyone has some magical way to add folders/shortcuts into the TF3D2 menus that would also work fine for me!
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Use Explorer and navigate to your Windows\StartMenu\Programs\ folder and paste shortcuts to your applications.
They should appear in the Programs list now.
Hope this helped you

the answer is in the tweaks thread.

FIX: For Time Zone Pop-Up After Reset - T-Mobile Rom

POSSIBLE FIX: For Time-Zone Pop-Up After Reset - T-Mobile Rom ...
Help Me Test This Cab ..
I think I may have fixed the problem ( Seems to work on my phone )
I found that the "time zone popup" is a Program called: SetSysTimeZoneImpl.exe
So I Made a Cab to replace the Org. File With a " Hacked Ver "
That Will Not Run. So Windows Ignores It .. And Keeeps going.
No More " time-zone popup " After restart
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You Can Try This Before Tweak ..
There are two places you have to disable the time zone thingy... Find them! Better yet: go to settings, connections, connection setup, menu. Untick enable auto configuration.
Second: Go to settings, personal, phone, go to the timezones tab and untick whatever that is as well. This should stop all popups. At least it did for me... For the past two weeks!
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WarlockWeary Kill-TimeZone-PopUp.cab (476.9 KB)
( This Ver. Has Reg Hacks - They May Be Needed )
WarlockWeary Kill-TimeZone-PopUp2.cab (476.4 KB)
( This Ver. Has NO Reg Hacks - They May Not Be Needed )
Install Instructions ..
PLEASE Make Sure You Have Set Your Time Zone And Time BEFORE Installing This Cab !!
1. Turn OFF HTC Sence
( Allsettings / Today / Items - Uncheck .. HTC Sence )
2. Turn ON Windows Default
( Allsettings / Today / Items - check .. Windows Default )
3. Got The Main Home Screen and Scroll To Time
4. PRESS SOFT KEY CALLED: SET
5. Click On The Time Tab And Set a Different Time Zone And Time! - Click OK
( You Want To Set The Wrong Time Zone Or Different Then What It Was )
6a. Now Go And Set The Correct Time Zone and Time - Click OK
( This Will Make Sure It Sticks )
6b. Click On The Time Tab And Set your Real Time Zone And Time!
7. Turn ON HTC Sence
( Allsettings / Today / Items - check .. HTC Sence )
8. Ok Now .. Install The Cab File!
YOU HAVE TO REBOOT AFTER INSTALL RIGHT AWAY !
( It Should Ask You IF You Want To SAY YES )
Give It A Try .. Let me know if it helps ..

Good post. For some reason, until today mine always did the stupid time zone pop-up thing, I'll keep this if it starts again.
Good work.

This seems to have done the trick...THANK YOU. I'll be rebooting a few times just to make sure it doesn't come popping back up, but so far after 2 soft boots, I have not seen the Time Zone screen.
Thank you again.
You SO rock!!
~EDIT~
So after a half dozen boots, I have yet to see the annoying Time Zone screen...so I would say that this indeed seems to have fixed that issue. Thank you again Warlock. You may have just saved my sanity and my TP2!!

OMG you are so awesome!
Thank you so much!

rorytmeadows said:
OMG you are so awesome!
Thank you so much!
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Yes Yes I Am lol .. It Was Really Buging Me!
I Had To Do Someting About it!

So which cab are you using - the one with the registry changes or the other one?

installed number 2, looks to have taken care of the situation. thanks!

Zylograth said:
installed number 2, looks to have taken care of the situation. thanks!
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Yea Was not sure if they were needed .. seems like the one without reg. changes works just fine
Glad it worked for you!

Fantastic mate - PopUp2 cab worked a treat for me.
Top job. Thanks for your efforts.

Tmobile TP2- just ran the popup2 no problems...brilliant solution! Corrupted My Flip clock though so I removed cab.

toadster said:
Tmobile TP2- just ran the popup2 no problems...brilliant solution! Corrupted My Flip clock though so I removed cab.
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Corrupted My Flip clock ???
Thats weird noone has had this happen that I know of .. you sure you rebooted ? after Install ? Also .. you may wana try the ver without reg. hacks.
I would give it a try again .. see if 2nd time is a charm

After 2 days and multiple soft resets this seems to have done the job. Boot time is definitely improved with no ill effects. I'm using the Dusk flip clock and it runs just fine no issues there.

DeoreDX said:
After 2 days and multiple soft resets this seems to have done the job. Boot time is definitely improved with no ill effects. I'm using the Dusk flip clock and it runs just fine no issues there.
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Great .. thanks for the update

Or, don't install any cab, just set the time zone in Windows Default instead of HTC Sense (like in steps 1 - 7, then soft reset).

niros2 said:
Or, don't install any cab, just set the time zone in Windows Default instead of HTC Sense (like in steps 1 - 7, then soft reset).
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Yea That Doesnt Work
After 1-3 soft resets It Starts asking again
Need Both .. do the 1-7 and install cab .. only way to make it not come back
for most people.

If you guys used a properly cooked ROM, you wouldn't have to do these "hacks". My ROMs, for example, will never annoy you with the timezone popups!

Installed 2n cab on my russian Leo and it works like a charm, thank you oh-great WarlockW!
To NRGZ28: Maybe but I'd like to stick to official rom for now.

NRGZ28 said:
If you guys used a properly cooked ROM, you wouldn't have to do these "hacks". My ROMs, for example, will never annoy you with the timezone popups!
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However, yuor ROMs all have time zone issue.
the time sets to PST, no matter where you do live and network time. it is very annoying.

it works!
Thank you! Now I only need threaded SMS to not freeze and skip the Today menu and go to spb on reboot.

NRGZ28 said:
If you guys used a properly cooked ROM, you wouldn't have to do these "hacks". My ROMs, for example, will never annoy you with the timezone popups!
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i would not said that your april 11 rom has this issue

whats going on here

Hi all,
please excuse the vagueness of this post.
I have just been given a tp2 as a replacement to my td2
My wife also has the tp2 which she got a year ago
the whole look of the phone (software ) is totally diferent
for instance the program page used to list a few progs (your choice) and then you had to hit all progs to get them up.
i am guessing that its a different rom or different version of sense?
also how do i change/edit/remove some programs from the list?
cheers guys

you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.

thanks for that
sorry to be thick but does that just enable me to move the prog icons or delete the progs as well
appreciate the help

thesyntax said:
you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.
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You don't need to edit the registry to turn off Manila. This is easily done from the Today settings.

hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks

stringman said:
hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks
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Different issues, my friend. Sense is the UI (aka Manila versions 2.1 and 2.5) you see when you start the phone. It is on by default, but you can turn it off in the Today setup and use the much less memory intensive standard Window Mobile screen. Go into the Today setup and turn off Sense by removing the check mark in the list and putting a check mark on Windows Default.
As for the bloatware that comes with the phone, anything on the ROM can not be removed except by flashing a new ROM. You can delete shortcuts from your start menu for programs you don't/won't use, but the programs will still be there. Do a search for Crud Scraper, a neat little tool that can 'remove' stuff from specific phone models (it worked great on my Tilt 2). Beyond that, read up as much as you can on modding your phone. This place is a great resource. Unfortunately, easy answers are hard to come by. You have to roll up your sleeves and get a little dirty.