Hi!
I successfully upgraded my P3300 NOR to WM6 WWE, but there is some new "features" in WM6 that I don't appreciate that much:
1) In the message application the left soft button is changed from new to delete. This I find rather irritating because the majority of times I want to compose a new message, not delete one (I almost never deletes messages). I know there has been some discussion concerning this issues over in the hermes forum.
2) When writing a new text message (or e-mail for that sake) and you start typing in the to field, WM5 displayed a list of matches from your contacts that you could pick from, and the field populated itself with the right information. This is not happening on my device after upgrading, is it a setting that controls this behavior or do we have to hack something to accomplish this?
Any suggestions on how to solve these issues?
Regards,
PK
I know what you mean with the Delete in messages, its a right pain!
With regards to the contacts, mine kind of works, I use transcriber and if you write say A it comes up with the A's or some of them at the bottom of the screen.
If you click one it just inserts it after what you put, so for example you'd get To: A; Amy(m);
Which seems to kind of be a waste of time as you then have to go and delete the A bit?
hollinshead said:
With regards to the contacts, mine kind of works, I use transcriber and if you write say A it comes up with the A's or some of them at the bottom of the screen.
If you click one it just inserts it after what you put, so for example you'd get To: A; Amy(m);
Which seems to kind of be a waste of time as you then have to go and delete the A bit?
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Hi!
Thanks for reply! In WM5 (at least on my device) the item you picket from the list replaced what you already had wrote, so there the functionality made sense. If this is not true on WM6 then it's absolutely wast, as you pointed out.
Regards,
PK
On my device the thing with the contacts work just like in WM5... It does not work if i your Phonepad, but with the normal keyboard, a smal rectangualr pops up with the Result matching my already typed letters, i then can pick a contact and the device replaces my input with the number...
And the Thing with "Delete" instead of "New" is really a senseless change, although im usign the WM5 New Menu in my Today screen, where i can assign a Softbutton with "New..." and then creat a SMS, email, Task or Note, whatever you desire, so i never really go through the messaging -> new menu...
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Yes, I've finally gotten around to looking into this whole cab making malarkey and while this is an existing one customised to fit my needs, it's a good learning curve
It's the palm threaded SMS app and it just plain rocks - really
So anyway, I've tested this on WM6 (Black 4) and it really works. Everything is already set up in this for using with T-Mobile and MMS works too! It integrates nicely with the HTC homescreen and includes a custom alert tone (hope you like it! )
Just to make sure the install goes OK, please use the task manager to stop the messaging \ poutlook \ tmail processes before you run the cab as I believe this could cause problems.
You will lose your existing SMS and MMS messages in the standard messaging app so if you want to keep them, use PIMBackup first
It's a fantastic app and I recommend giving it ago and if you're on T-Mob, I've just made it a little easier for you
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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EDIT 1: Fixed MMS settings
http://rapidshare.com/files/36981262/Lordsmiff_-_Threaded.cab.html
If you ever vist bristol I may be tempted to reward you. thanks.. a handy cab.
Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks
nbedford said:
Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks
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Good point! Nice work on the cab Lord but some reassurance would be fantastic
Service provider?
Have installed it and its quality. I can't send mms though. In the settings its set to cingular. I've got the tmob settings bar the centre number any ideas?
screen shot
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/18/treo-750v-threaded-sms-mms-app-hacked-for-all/
looks like that
I'm looking at it now - I did test it on mine first but I think it probably kept the registry settings when I uninstalled it and re-installed it.
As for uninstalling...on my T-Mobile UK MDA Vario II, it uninstalled perfectly and everything reverted to the standard messaging app...BUT, as with anything like this, please don't just take the poster's word for it - use PIMBackup and and back it all up first!! It will most likely work OK, but...sh*t happens ;-)
Smiffy.
Thanks man. Your word is always good enough
OK, there were 2 places in the registry where the MMS settings were stored and I only changed 1 but it's sorted now (tested 3 times ;-)
And no, my word isn't good enough ;-) Back it up!! :-D
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Fixed and fantastic
Think this will quite possibly be the first cab i'll install after future flashes. Intelligent fuctionality.
Cheers Lordsmiff nice work
Forgot to say that when i uninstalled first version my old sms and mms were still there. When i reinstalled the new ones reappeared. Like lordsmiff says back up just in case but it didnt completely remove messages only temporarily when using the app.
You're right, it doesn't remove the old messages, it just uses a different message store but, at the risk of repeating myself ;-) back it up anyway
Which reminds me - if you want to reflash your device and then get all your threaded SMS messages back, you need to backup a file in the Windows folder called "PalmMsgV001" and also a folder in Windows called "MMS"
The file has all the text messages and stuff in and the folder has all the images etc from MMS messages in (I found that out the hard way )
Copy those two to your storage card and then back after a reflash to have everything back in threads
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Moved to rapidshare at mod's request
Anyone have any ideas where better to put it as I know some people (myself included) can't get them during working hours...damn those proxys
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Is it possible to install this threaded sms cab then alter the network settings by installing one of the available operator cabs or does the setting need to be entered manually?
Thanks.
i havent looked at lordsmiff's version... but if its anything like the ones i posted there is a possible issue of mms not working if you enter the settings manually... but his could be different...
There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.
i had another thought if you wanted to run with the idea.. i go back to work today so my time is going to be limited again.
The original version where based on the sprint connections, when i extracted all the files from the cingular treo rom and dumped the registry i compared them, i noticed all the reg settings were pretty much the same except for 2 lines and of course all the provider settings. But im thinking that if we left out the hard coded provider settings and allow the user to enter them manually that this may stop the "sometimes" apparent connection issues with MMS. So basically have a generic threaded cab with no provider settings hard coded at all... and if someone wanted to feel ambitious enough they could make cabs with just the hard coded reg settings for different providers (not the whole app)..
Hi!
Sounds great! Can it also be used for a other provider ? If yes; how do I know my settings ?
Does it show a alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
XIvius
Lordsmiff said:
There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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I really love this app and would like to go back to it. MMS has always worked for me when using shogunmarks version but I think its limited to 300k.
Since your offering lord would you make one for AT&T?
I linked the settings I would have just posted them here but didn't want to miss something so I linked the main page for you.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...le=en_US&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB71325
thanks
One thing everyone should know when using this app is if you use any kind of app that closes programs like HTC Task Manager for example you need to add the Palm Threaded app to the exclusive list so it does NOT close when pressing x.
What happens a lot of times is most people write their txt msg and just click the x but with the threaded you have to wait until the msg is actually sent.
So the app should be running most of the time..
Hi,
What about the new sms notify; does it show an alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
Xivius
Hello,
I am using a HTC P3300 (aka Artemis).
I recently updated it to the official HTC WM6 roms.
During the last days I have often looked into these forums to get some help for different things that I wanted to costumized, and I was happy to see that everything worked, so now I am giving you a hard one to solve.
In the start menu of WM6 is the so-called "Recent Programs"-List. I want to get rid of this list, unfortunately it is not as easy as it is in WindowsXP for example. I looked into the registry but I haven't found anything, but I am honest, I am not a registry-pro, perhaps I missed something.
Or is there a program able to to that? I don't want to do every day a cleanup.
To give you some motivation, until now (in WM5 and WM6) nobody could help me, except for the answer "it is impossible" , so I hope you guys will be up to it.
Thanks a lot in advance.
here you go...
instructions are in the zip file attached
if you want more details check out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302377
HKCU>Software>Microsoft>SHELL>TaskSwitch>
You will need to clear/delete the entries under it one by one or delete the "TaskSwitch" folder and then perform a soft reset to load the changes in the registry. The TaskSwitch folder will be re-built upon performing a soft reset.
Thanks.
Just checking it if I understood correctly the solutions you have provided.
What you two are proposing above, is a cleanup that has to be done or will be done automatically when I start my P3300.
Is there no possibility to simply turn the list off, like in XP? So that WM6 will not create any shortcut after I launched a program? Then there would be no need to turn the P3300, just to empty the list.
Thanks again for your help.
Yes thats correct. If someone knows a way of turning it off please let us know
Update
I know this is an old thread.
But if anyone wants to know how to disable this on a smartphone..
These are specifically for a BlackJack II. But it should be similar accross the board.
There are two shell entries we need to focus on:
:MSStart - full start menu
:MSMRULauncher - recent programs list.
If we navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSMRULauncher
Edit the value for 0 to be "MSStart" instead of "MSMRULauncher"
Edit the value for 1 to be the same as the MSSTART key e.g. - "appman.exe -s BootApps :MSStart tpcutil.dll AMStart"
When you hit the start key on your smartphone device it should jump straight to the all programs menu,
better solution
while this may work, it ruins that mru thingy and turns it into a start menu...
more elegant solution is to
set string value "Command" to ":MSStart"
in key
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Shell\StartMenu
That will simply tell Windows that default action for calling start menu from shell is MSStart while keeping mru in working state... also, there are several other interesting values out there, like order, you can set specific order of items in start menu... wiping this value may result in alphabetical sorting of all items, including those "important" like messaging, settings and so on... hope it helps
Sms functionality is very limited on TP2. Should we install some 3rd party program like Vito or implement our own?
Anyone? lets talk about it
limited? what's so limited aboot it?
i think the sms/MMS is klunky to use. but this is coming from a smartphone user. im a noob to the ppc world
i think the sms/MMS is klunky to use. but this is coming from a smartphone user. im a noob to the ppc world but love my touch pro 2
Be more specific. What is klunky.
I will tell you what limited, in regular prog you cant delete individual msg, you dont see how many symbols you type and etc. SMS SUCKS at TP2.
reflexus said:
I will tell you what limited, in regular prog you cant delete individual msg, you dont see how many symbols you type and etc. SMS SUCKS at TP2.
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cant delete individual msg? Turn off Threading (try reading the Tips and Tweaks thread)
Dont know how many symbols?? mine counts fine, ^ counts as 2 characters.. hmm.. IF by "regular prog" you mean in the TF3D reply window, then yah that doesnt have a counter.
Why do you need it to count text for?? If you need to type any more than 160chars, it will be sent as 2 messages.
anything else that you wanna consider as SUCK?
is this your first WinMo phone?
I personally don't like the TF3D SMS interface so I use good ol WM interface when I have a threaded message open. It shows in the taskbar how many characters you've typed & if you want to delete an individual message you just use the arrow keys & move to thw one you want to delete & choose the option in the menu.
Very oftently you dont see sent msg in TF3D, but you can see them in wm msg. IT sucks and very slow.
I have a deep and unabiding hatred for the TF3D SMS application, and I hope someone figures out a way to make clicking a message in TF3D go directly to the WM SMS app at some point.
anyone can resolve this issue?
i have an issue with hitting back (used to it being send) and i hate the send button because for me it is very laggy usually .. when i need to fire off a bunch of messages real quick the system almost freezes up ... not very productive and alot of times i cant tell if its sent or not because it takes to long to load my reply on the thread..
touch pro 2 sucks, most sluggish phone i ever worked with, i think i will sell it.
I presume this is a generic thing, but if it turns out to be ROM-specific (I am running EnergyROM Photon with 6.5) then I can ask in the specific thread.
Unlike with my stock ROM, now I find that I can't add new words in XT9 words. Well, what happens is that it does ask me about adding the word and I can type the new word in, and press the tick, but the word doesn't get saved. The word won't be recognised next time, and if I go into the "My Words" bit it's totally empty.
Is there something I need to do to switch this on ? I tried searching but drew a blank.
*cough* bump *cough*
Same issue with the same ROM - I cannot add words.
Any help there ?
same problem here
I have the AT&T Tilt 2 with the stock ROM and have noticed this same problem. Unfortunately I don't know of a solution.
Seems the TP2 (stock roms, touch flo enabled) uses some new contact manager app?
So is there a way to make manila use the gold old WM6 contacts instead of the one it uses by default?
Please, Im not the only person looking for this.
I have been looking in HKLM-software-htc-manila and cant find anything yet. but there surely is a way to point the manila to the older type contacts app?
thanks
PS this is for us people who use this more business setting I guess. (or are old like me and dont like change?) Anyway, I have contacts grouped by Company, which is handy as hell & I dont need facebook. Please help us.
My solution would be that you start to make a call, hit green call button, hit the "contacts" soft button or whatever at the bottom, which would open the older type contacts, just like you had clicked on Start-All programs-contacts.
Thanks in Advance for any help or hints...
I have a real problem with the contact manager that this phone offers, i had to remap the button to bring the up other version , but still sucks for business use..so i loaded Pocket informant which helps but with out aD pad it is not as easy to use...got to find a solution for this, love the phone but one handed usage is very important and may drive me back to my old Tilt