I upgraded from 8125 to the 8525 and would like to upgrade the rom to wm6. I would like extra memory. I'm staying with cingular/ATT and plan on just swapping my sim card. Do I have to unlock my phone? What do I need to do and which rom is the latest/best w/most free memory and still ATT friendly. Thanks. I've read through the post, but I'm a little overwhelmed.
Chris
You want a good rom that is AT&T friendly, I would say vp3gs rom hands down.
welcome to the 8525. start here...lot's of good info and reading. then let us know if U still have specific questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325748
You knw ive seen alot of first post were people dont knw what they want they state basic things like whats the best rom, how do I upgrade, ect. I was really suprised to find that you knew what you wanted and look you got some good advice, Im glad to know that even though this community tends to flame noobs that if you ask your question correctly that you will get the information you request. Way to go.
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I upgraded from 8125 to the 8525 and would like to upgrade the rom to wm6. I would like extra memory. I'm staying with cingular/ATT and plan on just swapping my sim card. Do I have to unlock my phone? What do I need to do and which rom is the latest/best w/most free memory and still ATT friendly. Thanks. I've read through the post, but I'm a little overwhelmed.
Chris
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Having been in your exact place just a few short weeks ago, i'll tell you my experience. The very first thing I did was upgrade to Hard SPL v7. From my reading, this is essential to keep from bricking your phone. Although it's not fool proof, but it makes it much harder to mess everything up. I looked around and read all the different threads on all the ROMs. From looking at the pictures and reading the info on each one, I decided on VP3G 3.60 as it's an official ATT rom with some extras. I also switched radios a couple of times to find the one that gave me the best reception for my area, which ended up being 1.50. I didn't unlock my phone unless updating to any of the above did that. There is a site that goes through each install window and tells you what to choose, but I can't seem to find it right now. I don't full understand all of this stuff but i'm slowly learning it. Good luck on your updates and hope it goes as smoothly as mine has.
Axis
Right now I'm running dutty's ultralite http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329642 I started with Black, then went to some others and like VPG quite a bit, then tried TNT, then Cyphol's Gold, and finally I'm at the ultralite stage as I found that a lot of them just had stuff I didn't want/need and I preferred to take care of all of that myself (you'll determine that on your own though).
Definitely get HardSPL, and just play around with some of the main ROMs, the ultralites will have more memory by definition, but you may find that some are just too bare bones.
With regards to walkthrough's look at mrvanx's site, http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/ he has a ton of great walkthroughs that are ROM specific. Should get you started quite nicely.
Install HardSPL
Install vp3G's WM6 AT&T Rom
If you picked up retail less then 30 days ago, take it back and pick up a 8925/Tilt.
-pd
Thanks so much for the quick replies. My phone will be here on Tuesday, I ordered a refurbished. I will post an update w/shipped rom when it get's here. I waited for the Tilt to come out so they would clearance the 8525. I got my 8125 for $79 and now the 8525 for $99. Not bad I guess. Well I think I will try vp3gs first. I think if I try the Ultralight's, I have to unlock the memory area or something correct me if I'm wrong. W/Vp3gs rom, it should be like flashing a new rom from AT&T. But I will follow the directions to Hard-SPL first then to VP3Gs. Thanks again. Will post more on Wednesday.
Chris
Ok, followed all the directions in the forums. Everything went perfect. Very easy. I now have VP3Gs latest and upgraded the radio to 1.54.07. Everything works. I've added my old software. Found out that SPB Pocket Plus 4.0 brings the Hermes to a halt so I installed 3.2. I like the tabs on my today screen and the task switcher better than the HTC. Battery life seems a little less than the 8125. I think it's a little less than with 1.43 radio. I'm in central NJ and I didn't seem to notice a different between the two radios. My phone came with an old version of everything. I think the radio was 1.16 or something. Anyhow I will post more later. Thanks again everyone for the advice. Still shocked at how easy it was.
Chris
Before doing anything to your 8525; Research Research RESEARCH!
The last thing you want to do is put anything on your new phone right away. I know you want WM6 and probably can't wait to get it on your phone. First you need to research as much as possible until you feel comfortable, really comfortable with what you are planning to do.
I have vp3G's WM6 on my 8525. I waited and researched threads for over 2 weeks before commiting to it. So far so good I have to say. Read this guide first, it'll give you a good idea of what you will be doing. I'm not trying to tell you whats best here, I'm new to this too and just want to give you a heads up. Beware of people who tell you what they think is best for your phone, especially when they don't bother to tell you why.
Good luck, you're going to like your new 8525, although after sending back my original phone for a keyboard issue I went through 2 remanufactured 8525's before AT&T finally shipped me a brand new one. The screens on the reman'd ones kept locking up .
Dr. Jay
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Hi guys,
I have made several tests and the results are quite surprising.
When I bought my O2 XDA Exec, I tried several ROMs and finally I stick to the O2 image who seems to be the more stable one. Then I tried PDA Viet Crossbow Roms where I was incredibly surprised by the speed and the new Crossbow features.
I hold on to this ROM for sometimes but there was some issues, not major one but enough annoying to make me want to try the Helmi ROM. I don't know why I got a lot of crashes and big stability issue. Then I tried the new PDAViet (2.00.06 if I remember well) which was also a nightmare of issues. At the end, I give another try to the Helmi since so many people were saying good feedback about it with also an upgrade of the radio to v1.13 and now it's working like a charm.
That's why I think it is difficult to say at the first that a ROM is better than another one. It seems to be a matter to get the upgrade right (like for cooking when you have the right measure and balance). Now the Helmi ROM is working perfectly which is really strange regarding the difference with my first experience since it is the same image (It's not a matter of applications I installed since I installed really few apps and the problem I got on the first run was without any extra apps). Even my problem I had with the PDAViet Roms are gone.
I am not planning to upgrade to a new ROM anytime soon unless there is big changes which worse it.
I was just writing to say that when you get a ROM working, no matter what rom it is, just keep it. It might be that you have the right balance and it's pricey to loose it.
Julien
You're right to a greater degree, however it depends on how each individual uses their device. Some may use the pda functions, some predominantly as a phone whilst others a combination of both. In all cases as long as what we intend to use works well enough then yes theres no real point in upgrading just as the saying goes "if its not broke then dont fix it". However, this is the first real build of Crossbow for this device and as is expected the bugs to go with it. Now we wait on a newer build that will hopefully be more efficient, faster, smoother. And remember getting your device to work smoother is exactly what the fun is all about!
Fully agree with both the posts above. The basic PDA and communication functionality is all that is required and is available in the Universal in its most basic form. However, being in this forum it is our second nature to keep upgrading and expecting each upgrade to be better than the earlier one. I personally feel that once you are satisfied with the stability and performance do not jump to the next upgrade unless the reasons are compelling.
Yeah, if it works, dont mess it up!
It seems that what works for one may not work for others!
The same goes for Radio Roms. It seems the only way to find a good radio rom is to try each one in turn untill you find one that works for you.
Maybe it depends on country and carrier?
A lot of people said 1.09 works, but i had it and it didnt.
Others said 1.13 didnt work, im using it and its great.
Tmobile-UK for me, using 1.13 and its all stable (for now, touch wood, cross fingers).
Definately DO NOT upgrade your radio rom if its working.
Totally up with you all. I've tried 4 different WM6 ROMs Jcwright's has proved perfect FOR MY NEEDS. But then, I don't really need video calling, push mail etc.
I've noticed on a lot of the threads that people are just downloading and flashing without doing too much research into the problems posed... from my experience, the only way I got this ROM as stable as it is was by thoroughly reading all WM6 threads and combining fixes from each.
A little research will go a long way.
I think all the developers have done a stand up job!
And on the Radio front, it does appear that there may be some regional discrepancies. Like Pyrofer says, I tried 4 different that others seemed to find agreeable but had problems. Like him, I've ended up on 1.13 supplied with Jcwright's ROM and couldn't be happier, but in the process of testing the others I did have to claim on my insurance for one handset (could have been a hardware issue though).
WM6 rocks! There's no doubt, but read up on whether the ROM your looking at supports your needs before you flash needlessly and start spamming the site with needless reiterations.
Just my opinion.
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And on the Radio front, it does appear that there may be some regional discrepancies. Like Pyrofer says, I tried 4 different that others seemed to find agreeable but had problems. Like him, I've ended up on 1.13 supplied with Jcwright's ROM and couldn't be happier...
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I agree, 1.13 seems to be the best radio version for use in the UK, whereas in Hong Kong the 1.14 works better but hopeless in the UK.
Alright, I've completly had it with the t-mobile rom on my tytn. Befor this phone I used to have a wizard which I flashed almost the same day that I bought it, but after a while it broke down on me and I didn't get a new one (warenty issues)
Thats the main reason why I havn't flashed my tytn, but the t-mobile software is such a pain in the ass and WM6 is so much better then 5 that I'm just going to do it, screw the warrenty.
The question now is which version of WM6 shouls I flash. Is there a single version that definitivly leaves the rest behind?
Did my Vario2 with Black 2.5 yesterday. TBH, I don't know what the fuss is about. It's not noticably faster, and it was a big pain in the butt reinstalling everything. It also introduced a bunch of new bugs I didn't have before. On the other hand, being able to read HTML email has really changed my life. I'm sure for some people the changes are worthwhile, but for me it was not.
I extracted the TMob UK rom before flashing, so PM me if you need it in future.
I think this is a very important poll at this point.
There're so many WM6's version, and I am still using blackV1.X
Hesitating all days and looking about all the different versions, couldn't make a choice.
Lees said:
Alright, I've completly had it with the t-mobile rom on my tytn. Befor this phone I used to have a wizard which I flashed almost the same day that I bought it, but after a while it broke down on me and I didn't get a new one (warenty issues)
Thats the main reason why I havn't flashed my tytn, but the t-mobile software is such a pain in the ass and WM6 is so much better then 5 that I'm just going to do it, screw the warrenty.
The question now is which version of WM6 shouls I flash. Is there a single version that definitivly leaves the rest behind?
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I agree with you completely here. The standard T-Mobile rom is sh*te to say the least. Many instability probs. The wizard was a much more stable device IMHO.
I flashed Custel WM6 Pro V1.2 a couple of days ago and it has given my phone a new lease of life. Highly recommend it apart from warranty issues. This seems to be the most recent rom revision out of the the cooked rooms available. The support from Custel is excellent and it is still being developed, 1.3 will be out soon.
Hope this helps.
Jeez - Another Poll !!!
There's one 'ere : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303915
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I agree with you completely here. The standard T-Mobile rom is sh*te to say the least. Many instability probs. The wizard was a much more stable device IMHO.
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Can you tell me what your instability probs were? I can't remember when I last had a lock up with mine, but I can't say the same for my new ROM.
LVSW Rom definitively
stable and fast!!
I am interested in trying on of the cooked Roms on my ATT 8525, however I am concerned about converting back to the ATT rom. I would like to use the K's WM6.0 Lite FINAL from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350695
Can I just run the ATT WM6 install like I did when I upgraded from WM5? Or do I need to do something more complicated?
I am sorry for my newbishness, I do not do a whole lot with WM devices, I am mainly a server/pc/network tech.
Thank you for your help,
Gihzmo
it can be done pretty much exactly the same.
ive actually reflashed an att rom back onto a phone after having several roms, and sent the phone back to get it replaced with the warranty
gihzmo said:
I am interested in trying on of the cooked Roms on my ATT 8525, however I am concerned about converting back to the ATT rom. I would like to use the K's WM6.0 Lite FINAL from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350695
Can I just run the ATT WM6 install like I did when I upgraded from WM5? Or do I need to do something more complicated?
I am sorry for my newbishness, I do not do a whole lot with WM devices, I am mainly a server/pc/network tech.
Thank you for your help,
Gihzmo
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Yes, thats all you have to do if you go back to the AT&T ROM for the 8525. Same as upgrading from WM5.... Good luck and Read, Read, Read.. This forum is addicting...
iKse said:
it can be done pretty much exactly the same.
ive actually reflashed an att rom back onto a phone after having several roms, and sent the phone back to get it replaced with the warranty
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You say pretty much, is there something I need to know? hehehe
This is my work phone so I seriously dont want to screw up
install hardspl first, with that chances of you turning your phone into a brick dramatically reduces by a factor of 2854.23 exactly
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You say pretty much, is there something I need to know? hehehe
This is my work phone so I seriously dont want to screw up
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XtreMe_G said:
install hardspl first, with that chances of you turning your phone into a brick dramatically reduces by a factor of 2854.23 exactly
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Although you don't HAVE to install hardspl, i've never had a problem just doing safe softspl installs..
Thank you guys very much, im looking for the HardSPL download now and I am going to flash to K's WM6.0 Lite FINAL.
=)
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Although you don't HAVE to install hardspl, i've never had a problem just doing safe softspl installs..
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HardSPL is one of the greatest gifts, as XtreMe_G says. Actually I can't imagine not HardSPLing, why take a chance....
I paid $500 buckazoids for my 8525, with the 2 year. Explaining a "brick" to my wife (much less Cingular) when I had the means to not brick... I don't think so.
As a precaution, it's always worth reading MrVanx's Hermes Upgrade Guide
Thank you for your help, I got the new rom on the phone with almost no trouble. I had some issues with my direct push email. But I fixed that by removing the proxy that was set.
This is much, much faster then then the rom I was running before (ATT WM6 release).
The only other problem I seem to have is the weather doesnt seem to want to connect, I looked it up and figured out the code for my city (Danville VA USA) I used NAM|US|VA|DANVILLE
This works if you go through the Accuweather website, but it doesnt want to connect through the phone... anyone have any ideas? The phone goes out to the internet fine, getting email and browsing.
there is plenty of threads about this including this one
I'm exchanging the xv6900 for a xv6800, for the keyboard.
What's the latest info on what rom I should return it with?
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I'm exchanging the xv6900 for a xv6800, for the keyboard.
What's the latest info on what rom I should return it with?
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You can't go back! Not exactly sure how your gonna pull it off. Someone else said they changed the startup images to look like the stock, but it's pretty risky. If you return it with any ROM, I would suggest cooking a new ROM to match as closely as possible. The only problem is, the Radio is changed, and the info will be displayed on boot up. I imagine at some point, someone would notice it.
Bottom line is, you've completely altered the device, which voided your warranty.
Warranty
Yeh, I knew the risks, maybe stuck with the Vogue.
I'm within the 30 days return for exchange time.
So what happens if they don't like my radio version?
They simply wont exchange it? Or do they close the account? Or do they escort me out back and shoot me?
BTW
TheChampJT
I've read many of your posts here, you're very helpful and I wanna say thanks
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TheChampJT
I've read many of your posts here, you're very helpful and I wanna say thanks
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No prob! But, if they do see you've altered it, depending on when they notice, will probably depend on their action. Who knows, maybe if you can make it look official, and they accept, then it's their fault for accepting and can't refuse down the road.
Personally, I traded in my 6800 for the device, because of the extra amount of memory. The only differences I see that really stick out is the keyboard and WiFi, both I could live without. But, I couldn't stand the small amount of memory. I would imagine the worst they would do is refuse the trade, I highly doubt they would terminate the contract.
Found the Geeks thread
This looks like a good link for 'fixing' your Verizon to close to original.
I finally found this after many searches and after posting here
Anyone following this link, be sure to read everything here, there's considerations about the radio version and brinking the phone, so be careful.
Acutally this link is for the 6800 Titan, I'm looking for the Vogue one if there is one....
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21161
Clues said:
This looks like a good link for 'fixing' your Verizon to close to original.
I finally found this after many searches and after posting here
Anyone following this link, be sure to read everything here, there's considerations about the radio version and brinking the phone, so be careful.
Acutally this link is for the 6800 Titan, I'm looking for the Vogue one if there is one....
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21161
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Problem is, there is official stock ROM available to flash, which you've probably seen by now. At least there wasn't a couple of weeks ago. That's why the xv6900 ROM threads have warnings everywhere.
i am working on a way to get the xv6900 almost all the way back to stock. it is a multistep process but i have done it once. if you want more info let me know...
Sure
I'm keeping the 6900, thanks to some tips about the lower memory size of the 6800. It is kinda frustrating to have to decide between a keyboard or more ram. But also the size of the 6800 would make it less pocketable, I want the keyboard, but the same size as the vogue....
Anyway if I do need to return this for some reason it would be great to have a thread on converting it so yes pls thanks.
Clues said:
I'm keeping the 6900, thanks to some tips about the lower memory size of the 6800. It is kinda frustrating to have to decide between a keyboard or more ram. But also the size of the 6800 would make it less pocketable, I want the keyboard, but the same size as the vogue....
Anyway if I do need to return this for some reason it would be great to have a thread on converting it so yes pls thanks.
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If you haven't yet, get Resco Keyboard. About $20, it's one of those things you must have.
touchpal
i personally think touchpal is the best if you use 6.1 you need to use the 6.1 version or your phone will reset while texting i send around two thousand a month and traded my mogul for the touch for the more memory and believe me the touch is the one to have especially if you put alot of stuff on your device
I am new to this on the diamond, so I have a pretty basic question. I have a NAM version diamond. When HTC came out with their new ROM last month or so, I contacted them and they said it was not designed for my phone and to wait and see if one is put out for the NAM version (has US 3g bands and no front cam). Will I run into any problems with installing cooked ROMs, etc that are available. I read the sticky on what to do first, and understand to do all the HardSPL, etc. Not exactly sure about the radio and actual ROMs that I would be able to use. Just want to make sure its compatible so that I have the least chance of bricking my phone. My last time customizing phones was with the razr v3i, and there were certain roms that could/could not be applied to the phone depending on if it the type of v3i. I know that I have the following specs:
ROM: 1.93.422.4 WWE
ROM Date: 08/13/08
Radio: 1.0025.08
Protocol version: 52.33a.25.17H
Wanted to get some input from others with the Diam 110 with US 3G version of the phone as see what they recommend, as well as others who can help out. Also, when I was modding the v3i, there were programs that could back up your current rom so that it was possible to flash it back if any problems occured. Is there anyway to do this with the diamond? If not, where can I find the stock HTC rom for the US 3G Diamond (haven't been able to find it here on xda). Thanks again for helping out a new guy.
any advice?
It's sad, but HTC has been unfair to us. First they remove the front camera from our phone and then they decided to just ignore the US 3G GSM diamond. They haven't even bothered to release even a single update for us. Very unprofessional behavior by HTC. I am seriously considering ASUS for my next phone.
But XDA is our heaven! once you have the hardspl, you are good to go. Use any GSM ROM on this forum and you should be OK. Don't forget to follow all the instructions mentioned in the sticky for flashing ROMS.
I didn't care to backup my original ROM as I had HTC elf before and was well aware of the ROMS available on XDA. However, I do recall getting a ROM installation CD in phone package. Check your package... you might have it too.
But, frankly, once you use custom ROM from here, you will not go back to HTC's ROM.
I'll echo what Ark said here, it sucks that they leave us (all 5 of us ) out in the cold with the unlocked NAM phones, but HardSPL will solve all of your problems.
I followed the instructions on flashing HardSPL and used the latest WWE ROM from HTC and it worked like a champ. It was actually the best thing I ever did with the Diamond, as the 2.03 ROMs are 100x faster and better than the stock ROM. I highly suggest taking the time and steps to flash it.
The only things that were different when I flashed the WWE HTC ROM was that Microsoft Voice Command was replaced by the Cybotron Voice Dialing application. Also, the region is set to the UK, which is easily changed. Also, if you're using AT&T here in the US, you have to install Advanced Config or make a change to the registry to enable HUSPA in Advanced Network.
Hope this helps.
I have HardSPL on my NAM Diamond, and have flashed literally dozens of cooked and stock ROMs with no issues whatsoever. Such a great phone with the cooked ROMs! I'm pretty sure I have seen threads about getting your phone back to its original state if you wish to. I would recommend searching around a bit and you should find some info.
Enjoy your flashing!
and.. what about the radio? is posible to update too? or you recomend to stay in the original radio version that came with the DIAM 110?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Everything works just as it would on the euro units.
I've messed around with different build of official htc roms on my NAM, and i went back to the factory 193 build (same as OP). The newer builds have damn near all of the animation taken out. It fixed some things, and messed up other things. WHY they would add slide to answer is beyond me.
Also, i've tried a million radios. Here in chicago, doesnt matter what radio i use. i get horrible reception with this thing. In my house, every phone i have, gets full 3G reception. With the diamond? it bounces between 2/3/4 bars.
Going somewhere with shakey reception? the Diamond gets even worse.
So, i stuck with the factory radio as well, because it gave the best battery life.
So, for me, flashing was pointless. I left it harspl'd though for when 6.5 comes out though.
Thanks everyone. Glad to see atleast a few others have the US version of the diamond. I guess the only think I have to do now is decide which rom to pick.
@aphexacid: my phone gets great reception so far. I've tried it out in Houston and New York for extended periods of time. Had a few more dropped calls in NYC, but I think that's a network thing more than the phone. Also, is there a way that you backed up your stock rom to flash it back, or is it available somewhere? I know it's not at HTC's website when I looked. Just want to have it in case I decide to go back to basics like you did.
I also have NAM 3G diamond (Rogers branded) w/ front cam
Should I try this rom?
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_2.03.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.0 9.25.23_Ship
Just wanted to thank everyone for chiming in. Changed the rom last night, and thankfully everything went fine. If anyone has one they especially like, I'd like to hear about it. Still searching for the rom that would be ideal.
I've tried many ROMs here but always go back to Shaks.
Best performance and stability out there period.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462455
Yeah I put on Macadam and it's pretty good. I was looking at Shak's as well. Maybe when I get bored i'll switch to see which I like better. It's a pain to get everything setup again so that phone is how you like it, but I guess that's the price for having such customized roms.