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Hi guys,
I have made several tests and the results are quite surprising.
When I bought my O2 XDA Exec, I tried several ROMs and finally I stick to the O2 image who seems to be the more stable one. Then I tried PDA Viet Crossbow Roms where I was incredibly surprised by the speed and the new Crossbow features.
I hold on to this ROM for sometimes but there was some issues, not major one but enough annoying to make me want to try the Helmi ROM. I don't know why I got a lot of crashes and big stability issue. Then I tried the new PDAViet (2.00.06 if I remember well) which was also a nightmare of issues. At the end, I give another try to the Helmi since so many people were saying good feedback about it with also an upgrade of the radio to v1.13 and now it's working like a charm.
That's why I think it is difficult to say at the first that a ROM is better than another one. It seems to be a matter to get the upgrade right (like for cooking when you have the right measure and balance). Now the Helmi ROM is working perfectly which is really strange regarding the difference with my first experience since it is the same image (It's not a matter of applications I installed since I installed really few apps and the problem I got on the first run was without any extra apps). Even my problem I had with the PDAViet Roms are gone.
I am not planning to upgrade to a new ROM anytime soon unless there is big changes which worse it.
I was just writing to say that when you get a ROM working, no matter what rom it is, just keep it. It might be that you have the right balance and it's pricey to loose it.
Julien
You're right to a greater degree, however it depends on how each individual uses their device. Some may use the pda functions, some predominantly as a phone whilst others a combination of both. In all cases as long as what we intend to use works well enough then yes theres no real point in upgrading just as the saying goes "if its not broke then dont fix it". However, this is the first real build of Crossbow for this device and as is expected the bugs to go with it. Now we wait on a newer build that will hopefully be more efficient, faster, smoother. And remember getting your device to work smoother is exactly what the fun is all about!
Fully agree with both the posts above. The basic PDA and communication functionality is all that is required and is available in the Universal in its most basic form. However, being in this forum it is our second nature to keep upgrading and expecting each upgrade to be better than the earlier one. I personally feel that once you are satisfied with the stability and performance do not jump to the next upgrade unless the reasons are compelling.
Yeah, if it works, dont mess it up!
It seems that what works for one may not work for others!
The same goes for Radio Roms. It seems the only way to find a good radio rom is to try each one in turn untill you find one that works for you.
Maybe it depends on country and carrier?
A lot of people said 1.09 works, but i had it and it didnt.
Others said 1.13 didnt work, im using it and its great.
Tmobile-UK for me, using 1.13 and its all stable (for now, touch wood, cross fingers).
Definately DO NOT upgrade your radio rom if its working.
Totally up with you all. I've tried 4 different WM6 ROMs Jcwright's has proved perfect FOR MY NEEDS. But then, I don't really need video calling, push mail etc.
I've noticed on a lot of the threads that people are just downloading and flashing without doing too much research into the problems posed... from my experience, the only way I got this ROM as stable as it is was by thoroughly reading all WM6 threads and combining fixes from each.
A little research will go a long way.
I think all the developers have done a stand up job!
And on the Radio front, it does appear that there may be some regional discrepancies. Like Pyrofer says, I tried 4 different that others seemed to find agreeable but had problems. Like him, I've ended up on 1.13 supplied with Jcwright's ROM and couldn't be happier, but in the process of testing the others I did have to claim on my insurance for one handset (could have been a hardware issue though).
WM6 rocks! There's no doubt, but read up on whether the ROM your looking at supports your needs before you flash needlessly and start spamming the site with needless reiterations.
Just my opinion.
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And on the Radio front, it does appear that there may be some regional discrepancies. Like Pyrofer says, I tried 4 different that others seemed to find agreeable but had problems. Like him, I've ended up on 1.13 supplied with Jcwright's ROM and couldn't be happier...
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I agree, 1.13 seems to be the best radio version for use in the UK, whereas in Hong Kong the 1.14 works better but hopeless in the UK.
I upgraded from 8125 to the 8525 and would like to upgrade the rom to wm6. I would like extra memory. I'm staying with cingular/ATT and plan on just swapping my sim card. Do I have to unlock my phone? What do I need to do and which rom is the latest/best w/most free memory and still ATT friendly. Thanks. I've read through the post, but I'm a little overwhelmed.
Chris
You want a good rom that is AT&T friendly, I would say vp3gs rom hands down.
welcome to the 8525. start here...lot's of good info and reading. then let us know if U still have specific questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325748
You knw ive seen alot of first post were people dont knw what they want they state basic things like whats the best rom, how do I upgrade, ect. I was really suprised to find that you knew what you wanted and look you got some good advice, Im glad to know that even though this community tends to flame noobs that if you ask your question correctly that you will get the information you request. Way to go.
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I upgraded from 8125 to the 8525 and would like to upgrade the rom to wm6. I would like extra memory. I'm staying with cingular/ATT and plan on just swapping my sim card. Do I have to unlock my phone? What do I need to do and which rom is the latest/best w/most free memory and still ATT friendly. Thanks. I've read through the post, but I'm a little overwhelmed.
Chris
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Having been in your exact place just a few short weeks ago, i'll tell you my experience. The very first thing I did was upgrade to Hard SPL v7. From my reading, this is essential to keep from bricking your phone. Although it's not fool proof, but it makes it much harder to mess everything up. I looked around and read all the different threads on all the ROMs. From looking at the pictures and reading the info on each one, I decided on VP3G 3.60 as it's an official ATT rom with some extras. I also switched radios a couple of times to find the one that gave me the best reception for my area, which ended up being 1.50. I didn't unlock my phone unless updating to any of the above did that. There is a site that goes through each install window and tells you what to choose, but I can't seem to find it right now. I don't full understand all of this stuff but i'm slowly learning it. Good luck on your updates and hope it goes as smoothly as mine has.
Axis
Right now I'm running dutty's ultralite http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329642 I started with Black, then went to some others and like VPG quite a bit, then tried TNT, then Cyphol's Gold, and finally I'm at the ultralite stage as I found that a lot of them just had stuff I didn't want/need and I preferred to take care of all of that myself (you'll determine that on your own though).
Definitely get HardSPL, and just play around with some of the main ROMs, the ultralites will have more memory by definition, but you may find that some are just too bare bones.
With regards to walkthrough's look at mrvanx's site, http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/ he has a ton of great walkthroughs that are ROM specific. Should get you started quite nicely.
Install HardSPL
Install vp3G's WM6 AT&T Rom
If you picked up retail less then 30 days ago, take it back and pick up a 8925/Tilt.
-pd
Thanks so much for the quick replies. My phone will be here on Tuesday, I ordered a refurbished. I will post an update w/shipped rom when it get's here. I waited for the Tilt to come out so they would clearance the 8525. I got my 8125 for $79 and now the 8525 for $99. Not bad I guess. Well I think I will try vp3gs first. I think if I try the Ultralight's, I have to unlock the memory area or something correct me if I'm wrong. W/Vp3gs rom, it should be like flashing a new rom from AT&T. But I will follow the directions to Hard-SPL first then to VP3Gs. Thanks again. Will post more on Wednesday.
Chris
Ok, followed all the directions in the forums. Everything went perfect. Very easy. I now have VP3Gs latest and upgraded the radio to 1.54.07. Everything works. I've added my old software. Found out that SPB Pocket Plus 4.0 brings the Hermes to a halt so I installed 3.2. I like the tabs on my today screen and the task switcher better than the HTC. Battery life seems a little less than the 8125. I think it's a little less than with 1.43 radio. I'm in central NJ and I didn't seem to notice a different between the two radios. My phone came with an old version of everything. I think the radio was 1.16 or something. Anyhow I will post more later. Thanks again everyone for the advice. Still shocked at how easy it was.
Chris
Before doing anything to your 8525; Research Research RESEARCH!
The last thing you want to do is put anything on your new phone right away. I know you want WM6 and probably can't wait to get it on your phone. First you need to research as much as possible until you feel comfortable, really comfortable with what you are planning to do.
I have vp3G's WM6 on my 8525. I waited and researched threads for over 2 weeks before commiting to it. So far so good I have to say. Read this guide first, it'll give you a good idea of what you will be doing. I'm not trying to tell you whats best here, I'm new to this too and just want to give you a heads up. Beware of people who tell you what they think is best for your phone, especially when they don't bother to tell you why.
Good luck, you're going to like your new 8525, although after sending back my original phone for a keyboard issue I went through 2 remanufactured 8525's before AT&T finally shipped me a brand new one. The screens on the reman'd ones kept locking up .
Dr. Jay
I sent a email:
this is my second mail my first within 2 weeks, I didn't got answer for my first mail. I purchase p3600i in the u.s and I can't find in your site any rom update... Were can i find it? and I want to know when will be wm6.1 upgrade, Its very expensive pda phone and it will be shame If there will be no upgrade. Thanks and good day Gal Levy
And the answer:
Thank you for your inquiry.
We here at HTC definitely understand your concern about having the latest software available for your device, in this case regarding a Windows Mobile 6.1 update. Currently there is no information available regarding a release date for Windows Mobile 6.1 on the HTC P3600i.
Gal, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
Hey Gal
I did the same about 4 to 6 weeks ago and got a response from HTC Australia they they would not be supporting the P3600i with regard to any updates at all.
This is why I was so pleased that Olipro was able to come up with his Hard SPL.
At least now we have some opportunity to keep our "Expensive" non supported devices current for a little longer.
but still there is no stable wm6.1 rom for our devices...
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but still there is no stable wm6.1 rom for our devices...
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in my opinion, there never exist a stable rom for any device.... every day is appering a new problem, a new solution is found.... when it come up a new radio/program version, it comes again new problem....
how to solve this.... make a backup every day, and put it where you can get it anywhere and anytime!!!
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in my opinion, there never exist a stable rom for any device.... every day is appering a new problem, a new solution is found.... when it come up a new radio/program version, it comes again new problem....
how to solve this.... make a backup every day, and put it where you can get it anywhere and anytime!!!
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This is correct but not in rom that every night does hard reset without know why...
There is stable that you can work with the device but you have some problems... that is usualy
and there is "stable" without any bugs... That doesnt exist in any software in the world
gallevy said:
This is correct but not in rom that every night does hard reset without know why...
There is stable that you can work with the device but you have some problems... that is usualy
and there is "stable" without any bugs... That doesnt exist in any software in the world
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Well so far I am pretty happy with the PDAViet 3.2 ROM. I am not sure if MMS is working properly or not...though that is no big deal for me. BT is working, battery life is really good as is memory...there don't appear to be any large memory leaks. I was concerned that it was switching off the screen on external power even after I set it to stay on but found there is a now a power saving feature for the battery and that needs to be set as well (it overrides the screen setting).
My only real gripe is that it uses Mozilla 4 as the browser and I haven't really figured it out yet. I might look at other browsers but I don't use it much so its no big deal.
Having had my Diamond for 2 weeks now, its made my life a living hell. Slow, freezes, very fiddly and so many calls go missed because of the g** screen system.
Will there be an upgrade for Orange customers as the htc site doesnt let me do it ?
Im seriously considering giving it back, currently the iphone puts it to shame imo and thats barebones really !
if your are french use DiamondStone 1.1 :
http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&cat=169&id=15903
Or Wait some days until I release the DiamondStone v2 (post will be also on HTC Planete)
I had an Orange diamond and I had the exact same problems you describe. Thankfully now they are all history. I flashed a different ROM onto the handset. I would recommend you do the same. BE WARNED THOUGH. This will probably cancel out any warranty on the handset. All problems have now gone and I have the handset the Diamond always promised to be........
Fiaudiobl said:
Having had my Diamond for 2 weeks now, its made my life a living hell. Slow, freezes, very fiddly and so many calls go missed because of the g** screen system.
Will there be an upgrade for Orange customers as the htc site doesnt let me do it ?
Im seriously considering giving it back, currently the iphone puts it to shame imo and thats barebones really !
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See this thread and my reply on Post #16. I did it last night, TouchFlo and browsing is a LOT better.
I and several others have contacted Orange directly. They keep saying that Orange DO NOT supply updates as "they did not write the software". (Orange traditionally have a very bad record of NOT supporting their handsets with newer vendor updates)
Of course, to make matters worse, HTC will not provide an Orange specific ROM either so if you want the enhancements offered, you WILL need to update the ROM yourself. I've not tried the other custom ROMs offered here - I'm sure they offer a lot of other advantages, but I just wanted to get the "Offical ROM" update working
http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419093&page=2
There is a LOT of info on this site but sometimes with all of the other posts, it can be a bit confusing to understand. Basically in order to update I found that:
1) You MUST first update the phone with the right HardSPL (as per all the Guides on here). This WILL invalidate your warranty, unless you are able re-update your phone back to the original SPL (and ROM if you got that far) - should you need to send the thing in for warranty repair...
2) Certain ROM updates, including "Offical HTC" ones require that you use a certain SPL. To update my Orange UK with the HTC Rom, I used HardSPL 1.93.. and I loaded it using the DiamondCustomRUU that comes packaged with HardSPL 1.37 (again this is available by looking at the correct threads here)
3) To even get this HardSPL working it DID hard reset my phone, Internal Storage was left intact but the "on phone" data/applications/contacts etc were completely wiped - so make sure you back up all contacts, and write down settings (again, read the guides on what to backup)
4) Once HardSPL 1.93 was on the phone you can now load the new "Official ROM" (check the SPL version by soft resetting and holding the DOWN VOLUME key until you get the Tri-colour screen showing which version it is - you can then soft reset to get the phone back)
5) IF you update to HardSPL, you do NOT need to CID-Unlock you phone - if you're unsure what this means, again read the guides for more detailed explanations
6) You can use the RUU that comes with the Official HTC Rom package to then update your phone.. again follow ALL instructions from the Guides
7) Do NOT get impatient at any time and uplug cables, close apps etc. you could risk bricking your phone.. just follow instructions
THIS DOES WORK - at least it did for me... my diamond is even faster than ever now
I have the information that since a few days Orange France ships Diamond with 1.93 ROM and 1.00.25.05 Radio.
I'm in touch with someone who have this new ROM and I'm helping him dumping it
I think I might have the dump within a few hours (I'll tell you ) and will test it on my own Orange Diamond
If Orange (France or UK) do release an updated "Offical ROM", then that would be cool.. but Orange UK were certain they WOULD NOT be doing this..
To be honest, the HTC "Official ROM" works just fine and it doesn't come with all the Orange branded rubbish either The only issue is that you must invalidate your warranty to enjoy the benefits..
jms_uk,
i dont get it your on a developers website but you want to keep your phone
on a stock rom.
why.
the cooked roms are so much better and as you say you have allready invalidated your warranty.
I have a once Orange Diamond, now its official HTC 1.93 with unlocked Sim.
I would love to try out a cooked ROM as you suggest, but there are just so many ones on this site its completely confusing, I would like to ask which one is best, but dare not due to either having my post deleted, moved or flamed.
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jms_uk,
i dont get it your on a developers website but you want to keep your phone
on a stock rom.
why.
the cooked roms are so much better and as you say you have allready invalidated your warranty.
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I'll admit that I'm quite happy with the improvements the official updated ROM gives, but as THUDUK has said, I wouldn't know where to start on picking a custom ROM that offers further improvements - so much choice
I've already spent a while trying to seach and get more information on what the various ROMS do, but as a lot of people have said there is no "best" ROM because it depends on what you're looking for..
At the moment I like TF3D as an interface, and the speed of it with the official/stock update is improved.. what other cool things could I benefit from with a custom ROM? Any and all suggestions gratefully welcomed!
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I stopped being a total n00b and found some proper details on both Dutty's and Panosha's Shine-On... some really nice tweaks in there, I can see why a lot of people prefer these custom ROMs. As I'm new to the whole game, and my phone is already improved with just the new Stock ROM - I'll play it safe for now, but I'm a bit clearer about things! Now if only someone could fix that damned HTC music player
Hey,
First post here but i have been hanging around for some time and been flashing new rom's on my htc touch diamond since the second week of having it. I was kind of lucky getting my diamond from orange (actually through carphone warehouse) but it was completely unbranded short of a small orange logo sticker on the case. I assume this is because it was one of the very first editions, i had the same issues untill i flashed with a cooked rom from these forums and the speed improvments were outstanding in comparison to what i had. I would highly recommend upgrading the rom yourself, as it looks unlikely we'll ever see a decent from rom orange. but make sure you do follow the instructions carefully. on top of that from my understanding (and ill fully admit if i am wrong) but because flashing the rom's are completely software based, if you had to return the phone, then i understand it is possible to remove everything you have done to it and restore it to its original state, i think i have seen the original orange uk rom on the forums somewhere. as i said im sorry if that is incorrect but if u can remove everything then returning the phone wont be an issue. as for what rom? no idea, i have tested all the wwe roms and have found the one i like, dutty's 1.6 lite i think it is.
anyway sorry for the babble, tend to wonder in my head lol. hope its of use.
Fraser
I think Orange UK messed up and a LOT of their Touch Diamonds have very little specific customisation except for the Orange branded back cover and the locked CID.. yet all the packaging and manuals show screenshots with Orange customisations in them
No bad thing if you don't want your phone to have all that bloat...
There are some nice things in the different roms, G-Sensor calibration and all that but for me, even with the newer Stock Official HTC ROM, its certainly better than it was out of the box..
Its a shame Orange don't do something about that, the customer reputation would be vastly improved and the improved performance on the handset with a better ROM might even win a few new customers who have been put off with negative press about the phone's UI performance..
You only have to read an a review in an "ignorant" magazine like T3 (read by a LOT of people unfortunately) to see the misconception... I'm sure the Diamond would've rated better had their staff been given a phone with newer/better ROMs on it
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*EDIT* Now if only someone could fix that damned HTC music player
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Hey too right, the only one single yet hugely annoying problem with my Diamond is the blasted music player skipping, gets better if you turn off your phone, but why should we have to do that
alphazeros rom fixes the media player problem so they say.
standard rom with speed increases.
havn't tried it my self as i use swiftbl's rom but it looks ok.
LoL, I was talking about the cover art main view. Its annoying that it only shows songs from your now playing instead of allowing you to actually select whole albums by cover art from this view
I loaded the November 9th, 2009 "23504" ROM from NRGZ28 a few days ago and for the first time I have had no trouble at all that wasn't easily worked around. It looks great, is fast and seems to be completely stable, and actually appears to be easy on the battery as well. I'm going to keep this one for a while.
I have tried pretty much every ROM released by various members of the community here and I like those from NRGZ28 the most. Setup is always easy and I am using ready to use the device in just a few minutes after flashing the ROM and connecting the the Exchange server. However, up until this ROM I experienced so many issues that I have spent hours trying, often unsuccessfully, to fix that I was getting tired of the Touch Pro 2. I am ording the BlackBerry 9700 for my personal line on Monday and I was about to order a second one to replace the Touch Pro 2 (and put it on Craigslist).
After loading this version I can now use the phone and expect it to work. No odd freezing, or having to reset to read email, avoiding scrolling in "titanium, none of that...it just works.
One thing that helps is that I no longer use HTC Sense...I think it is causing more problems than it is worth an it might help people to move on...it really is not even worth the trouble. It is now the first thing I disable. When using Windows Mobile without it, regardless of which ROM I am using, the device has ALWAYS been much more stable without it...and it doesn't even look that good :/
For those of you looking for a better ROM version that appears to work reliably...this may be the one. At least on the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 it is the best I have used.
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One thing that helps is that I no longer use HTC Sense...I think it is causing more problems than it is worth an it might help people to move on...it really is not even worth the trouble. It is now the first thing I disable.
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I disabled Touch Flo on my WM 6.1 Fuze after about 10 minutes. Disabled it on my Tilt 2 w/WM 6.5 after playing with it for about an hour. (Took me a while to get over that weather display -- pretty impressive!) I prefer to run WM plain vanilla. So how does the speed of this ROM compare to the stock 6.5 ROM with Touch-Flo (HTC Sense?) disabled? Is it worth while flashing it, aside from the fun of just tinkering around with the thing?
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I loaded the November 9th, 2009 "23504" ROM from NRGZ28 a few days ago and for the first time I have had no trouble at all that wasn't easily worked around. It looks great, is fast and seems to be completely stable, and actually appears to be easy on the battery as well. I'm going to keep this one for a while.
I have tried pretty much every ROM released by various members of the community here and I like those from NRGZ28 the most. Setup is always easy and I am using ready to use the device in just a few minutes after flashing the ROM and connecting the the Exchange server. However, up until this ROM I experienced so many issues that I have spent hours trying, often unsuccessfully, to fix that I was getting tired of the Touch Pro 2. I am ording the BlackBerry 9700 for my personal line on Monday and I was about to order a second one to replace the Touch Pro 2 (and put it on Craigslist).
After loading this version I can now use the phone and expect it to work. No odd freezing, or having to reset to read email, avoiding scrolling in "titanium, none of that...it just works.
One thing that helps is that I no longer use HTC Sense...I think it is causing more problems than it is worth an it might help people to move on...it really is not even worth the trouble. It is now the first thing I disable. When using Windows Mobile without it, regardless of which ROM I am using, the device has ALWAYS been much more stable without it...and it doesn't even look that good :/
For those of you looking for a better ROM version that appears to work reliably...this may be the one. At least on the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 it is the best I have used.
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+1 Agreed regarding sense messing stuff up. I D/L'd NRG's fairly plain as in lacking manila(photon ROM) and it is very stable so far, no issues. Mobile shell works very well for a ui and is very stable also. I think manila,sense,tf3d all cause various issues. It's nice eyecandy and fun to use until the freezes and other issues just get to be to much. Happy with "photon" minus tf3d.
check my sig for the rom i use. most stable ones i ever used (and i flashed a lot ) ,even with sense ui on,cause i personally love the sense ui. been using these roms for a while now next to nrgz28's roms,wich are brilliant in their own way, but when it comes to stability the rhodium_af roms just simply rule! no bugs,no freezes,it just works. with nrg's roms i usually had to reset my tp2 at least once a day, with the roms i now use its only about once a week
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I disabled Touch Flo on my WM 6.1 Fuze after about 10 minutes. Disabled it on my Tilt 2 w/WM 6.5 after playing with it for about an hour. (Took me a while to get over that weather display -- pretty impressive!) I prefer to run WM plain vanilla. So how does the speed of this ROM compare to the stock 6.5 ROM with Touch-Flo (HTC Sense?) disabled? Is it worth while flashing it, aside from the fun of just tinkering around with the thing?
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I use it right now with the Windows Default Today Screen, "Titanium" I think everyone is calling it, and this is quite good for me. When I get a new text it shows in its own section of the today screen. Same for email and it is separated by email account. Phone and Voicemail keep it simple as well though I wish I could add a Tasks section and get rid of Internet Explorer. This is a great today screen layout and a few more themes for it would be even nicer.
I have seen another version of this with all kinds of complicated options called "Titanium Ultimate" and it is a pure mess. It is absolutely a mess. I got rid of the ROM it was on just because of that...it is the reason I went to this NRGZ28 ROM.
htckaiseruser, I also used that ROM and switched...I guess that's why it is nice to have so many people making them. We all have our preferences.
I really do hope no one takes offense to my statements here. Some of us like a little eye candy but want a stable, working, easy to use device with great battery life. HTC Sense just doesn't make sense since it just has too many problems and really just gets in the way. I like Windows Mobile because I like the way the Calendar works...yet they change that. I like the way contacts are displayed, but they change that too. I like my text messages to arrive and for me to be able to reply but HTC prevents that from working. I like to get push email and lock my phone for security, yet if I am using "Sense" and lock the phone, no email comes in at all. They tried to do too much.
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I really do hope no one takes offense to my statements here.
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Thanks, and I hope no one does either.
And, thanks also to all the xda "chefs" and all the other tweakers here who've done so much for me, at least, to make my HTCs more usable and more fun, and to make this such a great place to visit, again and again.
I can't find a better ROM than NRG's. i was using his "EnergyROM_23071_RHODIUM_18.Oct.2009_Standard" since i first got the phone and was completely satisfied with it. battery usage was very light and i was able to charge it throuhg usb while at work (i have a desk job) and there was almost nothing i had to do to make it work on install. just the normal keyboard fix.
WM6.5 21876! WM65 21876! WM65 21876! Seriously, I have went weeks without resetting my phone. I have forgot how nice it is to have a hot GPS lock after a few days of not using it.
Have tested a lot of ROM´s almost every 3rd day reflashing
And find that energy´s photon 6.5.1 is the best for me
In the past I flashed hermes, kaizer etc many times, and found that custom ROMs actually improved performance. When I bought a fuze, as I immediately started flashing ROMs or simply upgraded manila my device became slow and not function as well. So went back to stock, removed all the ATT bloat-ware. When you started hearing about the awsome fuze ROMs from RRE, DA_G, etc which were real WM6.5, and were made for fuze specifically, now I could flash and keep my phone functional, but never as good as stock with WM6.1. Now I have a tilt2 with most ATT junk deleted, I find it to be extremely responsive and works well with manila or without it. For me, flashing a rom may be best utilized as a hobby/fun on these devices until a build is perfected. If you start flashing early you should keep that in mind and expect a lot of issues. Like the poster mentioned the sense UI causing problems, remember these apps were not designed for this phone, guys customize them to fit but it is never a perfect fit, that is why IMHO, you get problems. It seems that stock ROMs are a lot better now. Likely this happened, because phone companies have become aware of the excellent ROM builders on XDA and have gotten their act together, knowing that if they do not produce a quality product, folks here will. This phenomena is a testament to all the ROM builders on this site. Eventually the liklhood is that ROM builders here will build the perfect ROM for Rhodium, which will be better than stock. Till they have one for tilt2, I will only flash my fuze in order to keep Tilt2 functioning well for work.
hmm,..im gonna have to try it out,..The currently use has been great for the past couple days. I didnt notice problems til today in texting. When having "textversations", the phone keeps freezing. Its pretty frustrating.
i have been using Josh's perfect black and it hasn't freezed up yet and the battery life is great.
researchermd said:
In the past I flashed hermes, kaizer etc many times, and found that custom ROMs actually improved performance. When I bought a fuze, as I immediately started flashing ROMs or simply upgraded manila my device became slow and not function as well. So went back to stock, removed all the ATT bloat-ware. When you started hearing about the awsome fuze ROMs from RRE, DA_G, etc which were real WM6.5, and were made for fuze specifically, now I could flash and keep my phone functional, but never as good as stock with WM6.1. Now I have a tilt2 with most ATT junk deleted, I find it to be extremely responsive and works well with manila or without it. For me, flashing a rom may be best utilized as a hobby/fun on these devices until a build is perfected. If you start flashing early you should keep that in mind and expect a lot of issues. Like the poster mentioned the sense UI causing problems, remember these apps were not designed for this phone, guys customize them to fit but it is never a perfect fit, that is why IMHO, you get problems. It seems that stock ROMs are a lot better now. Likely this happened, because phone companies have become aware of the excellent ROM builders on XDA and have gotten their act together, knowing that if they do not produce a quality product, folks here will. This phenomena is a testament to all the ROM builders on this site. Eventually the liklhood is that ROM builders here will build the perfect ROM for Rhodium, which will be better than stock. Till they have one for tilt2, I will only flash my fuze in order to keep Tilt2 functioning well for work.
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I tried the nrg rom and it was GREAT on the tilt2 UNTIL i realize i could not get the hardware keyboard working even close to what its supposed to be. THEN my onscreen keyboard decided to stick on the phone pad so i coulnt type much of anything anymore without issues! Save yourself now, if you were even thinking about it.
BTW, i am back on the stock rom and staying away from mobile shell and giving minila its fair share for the first time. Im looking for easy things to make it better. If you have any tips, please PM me with them, thanks
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check my sig for the rom i use. most stable ones i ever used (and i flashed a lot ) ,even with sense ui on,cause i personally love the sense ui. been using these roms for a while now next to nrgz28's roms,wich are brilliant in their own way, but when it comes to stability the rhodium_af roms just simply rule! no bugs,no freezes,it just works. with nrg's roms i usually had to reset my tp2 at least once a day, with the roms i now use its only about once a week
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[ROM][WWE]|15-11-09|Rhodium_AF|HTC Sense 2.5|LEO 1.43|WM65 21876|VX|
I concur!!! I have always been using NRG's energy ROMs, back during my Fuze days. But ever since I switched to Ark's AF ROM, I have not looked back since. I have flashed Fusion ROM, Miri V7, ROMeOS ROM, etc but I always went back to energy. But Ark's AF ROM totally blew me away in its stability and simplicity. It does not have a lot of frills or eye-candy, but it is very stable, very usable. You guys should try it. I am flashing VX1 as I type this. Hahaha