I loaded the November 9th, 2009 "23504" ROM from NRGZ28 a few days ago and for the first time I have had no trouble at all that wasn't easily worked around. It looks great, is fast and seems to be completely stable, and actually appears to be easy on the battery as well. I'm going to keep this one for a while.
I have tried pretty much every ROM released by various members of the community here and I like those from NRGZ28 the most. Setup is always easy and I am using ready to use the device in just a few minutes after flashing the ROM and connecting the the Exchange server. However, up until this ROM I experienced so many issues that I have spent hours trying, often unsuccessfully, to fix that I was getting tired of the Touch Pro 2. I am ording the BlackBerry 9700 for my personal line on Monday and I was about to order a second one to replace the Touch Pro 2 (and put it on Craigslist).
After loading this version I can now use the phone and expect it to work. No odd freezing, or having to reset to read email, avoiding scrolling in "titanium, none of that...it just works.
One thing that helps is that I no longer use HTC Sense...I think it is causing more problems than it is worth an it might help people to move on...it really is not even worth the trouble. It is now the first thing I disable. When using Windows Mobile without it, regardless of which ROM I am using, the device has ALWAYS been much more stable without it...and it doesn't even look that good :/
For those of you looking for a better ROM version that appears to work reliably...this may be the one. At least on the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 it is the best I have used.
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One thing that helps is that I no longer use HTC Sense...I think it is causing more problems than it is worth an it might help people to move on...it really is not even worth the trouble. It is now the first thing I disable.
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I disabled Touch Flo on my WM 6.1 Fuze after about 10 minutes. Disabled it on my Tilt 2 w/WM 6.5 after playing with it for about an hour. (Took me a while to get over that weather display -- pretty impressive!) I prefer to run WM plain vanilla. So how does the speed of this ROM compare to the stock 6.5 ROM with Touch-Flo (HTC Sense?) disabled? Is it worth while flashing it, aside from the fun of just tinkering around with the thing?
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I loaded the November 9th, 2009 "23504" ROM from NRGZ28 a few days ago and for the first time I have had no trouble at all that wasn't easily worked around. It looks great, is fast and seems to be completely stable, and actually appears to be easy on the battery as well. I'm going to keep this one for a while.
I have tried pretty much every ROM released by various members of the community here and I like those from NRGZ28 the most. Setup is always easy and I am using ready to use the device in just a few minutes after flashing the ROM and connecting the the Exchange server. However, up until this ROM I experienced so many issues that I have spent hours trying, often unsuccessfully, to fix that I was getting tired of the Touch Pro 2. I am ording the BlackBerry 9700 for my personal line on Monday and I was about to order a second one to replace the Touch Pro 2 (and put it on Craigslist).
After loading this version I can now use the phone and expect it to work. No odd freezing, or having to reset to read email, avoiding scrolling in "titanium, none of that...it just works.
One thing that helps is that I no longer use HTC Sense...I think it is causing more problems than it is worth an it might help people to move on...it really is not even worth the trouble. It is now the first thing I disable. When using Windows Mobile without it, regardless of which ROM I am using, the device has ALWAYS been much more stable without it...and it doesn't even look that good :/
For those of you looking for a better ROM version that appears to work reliably...this may be the one. At least on the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 it is the best I have used.
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+1 Agreed regarding sense messing stuff up. I D/L'd NRG's fairly plain as in lacking manila(photon ROM) and it is very stable so far, no issues. Mobile shell works very well for a ui and is very stable also. I think manila,sense,tf3d all cause various issues. It's nice eyecandy and fun to use until the freezes and other issues just get to be to much. Happy with "photon" minus tf3d.
check my sig for the rom i use. most stable ones i ever used (and i flashed a lot ) ,even with sense ui on,cause i personally love the sense ui. been using these roms for a while now next to nrgz28's roms,wich are brilliant in their own way, but when it comes to stability the rhodium_af roms just simply rule! no bugs,no freezes,it just works. with nrg's roms i usually had to reset my tp2 at least once a day, with the roms i now use its only about once a week
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I disabled Touch Flo on my WM 6.1 Fuze after about 10 minutes. Disabled it on my Tilt 2 w/WM 6.5 after playing with it for about an hour. (Took me a while to get over that weather display -- pretty impressive!) I prefer to run WM plain vanilla. So how does the speed of this ROM compare to the stock 6.5 ROM with Touch-Flo (HTC Sense?) disabled? Is it worth while flashing it, aside from the fun of just tinkering around with the thing?
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I use it right now with the Windows Default Today Screen, "Titanium" I think everyone is calling it, and this is quite good for me. When I get a new text it shows in its own section of the today screen. Same for email and it is separated by email account. Phone and Voicemail keep it simple as well though I wish I could add a Tasks section and get rid of Internet Explorer. This is a great today screen layout and a few more themes for it would be even nicer.
I have seen another version of this with all kinds of complicated options called "Titanium Ultimate" and it is a pure mess. It is absolutely a mess. I got rid of the ROM it was on just because of that...it is the reason I went to this NRGZ28 ROM.
htckaiseruser, I also used that ROM and switched...I guess that's why it is nice to have so many people making them. We all have our preferences.
I really do hope no one takes offense to my statements here. Some of us like a little eye candy but want a stable, working, easy to use device with great battery life. HTC Sense just doesn't make sense since it just has too many problems and really just gets in the way. I like Windows Mobile because I like the way the Calendar works...yet they change that. I like the way contacts are displayed, but they change that too. I like my text messages to arrive and for me to be able to reply but HTC prevents that from working. I like to get push email and lock my phone for security, yet if I am using "Sense" and lock the phone, no email comes in at all. They tried to do too much.
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I really do hope no one takes offense to my statements here.
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Thanks, and I hope no one does either.
And, thanks also to all the xda "chefs" and all the other tweakers here who've done so much for me, at least, to make my HTCs more usable and more fun, and to make this such a great place to visit, again and again.
I can't find a better ROM than NRG's. i was using his "EnergyROM_23071_RHODIUM_18.Oct.2009_Standard" since i first got the phone and was completely satisfied with it. battery usage was very light and i was able to charge it throuhg usb while at work (i have a desk job) and there was almost nothing i had to do to make it work on install. just the normal keyboard fix.
WM6.5 21876! WM65 21876! WM65 21876! Seriously, I have went weeks without resetting my phone. I have forgot how nice it is to have a hot GPS lock after a few days of not using it.
Have tested a lot of ROM´s almost every 3rd day reflashing
And find that energy´s photon 6.5.1 is the best for me
In the past I flashed hermes, kaizer etc many times, and found that custom ROMs actually improved performance. When I bought a fuze, as I immediately started flashing ROMs or simply upgraded manila my device became slow and not function as well. So went back to stock, removed all the ATT bloat-ware. When you started hearing about the awsome fuze ROMs from RRE, DA_G, etc which were real WM6.5, and were made for fuze specifically, now I could flash and keep my phone functional, but never as good as stock with WM6.1. Now I have a tilt2 with most ATT junk deleted, I find it to be extremely responsive and works well with manila or without it. For me, flashing a rom may be best utilized as a hobby/fun on these devices until a build is perfected. If you start flashing early you should keep that in mind and expect a lot of issues. Like the poster mentioned the sense UI causing problems, remember these apps were not designed for this phone, guys customize them to fit but it is never a perfect fit, that is why IMHO, you get problems. It seems that stock ROMs are a lot better now. Likely this happened, because phone companies have become aware of the excellent ROM builders on XDA and have gotten their act together, knowing that if they do not produce a quality product, folks here will. This phenomena is a testament to all the ROM builders on this site. Eventually the liklhood is that ROM builders here will build the perfect ROM for Rhodium, which will be better than stock. Till they have one for tilt2, I will only flash my fuze in order to keep Tilt2 functioning well for work.
hmm,..im gonna have to try it out,..The currently use has been great for the past couple days. I didnt notice problems til today in texting. When having "textversations", the phone keeps freezing. Its pretty frustrating.
i have been using Josh's perfect black and it hasn't freezed up yet and the battery life is great.
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In the past I flashed hermes, kaizer etc many times, and found that custom ROMs actually improved performance. When I bought a fuze, as I immediately started flashing ROMs or simply upgraded manila my device became slow and not function as well. So went back to stock, removed all the ATT bloat-ware. When you started hearing about the awsome fuze ROMs from RRE, DA_G, etc which were real WM6.5, and were made for fuze specifically, now I could flash and keep my phone functional, but never as good as stock with WM6.1. Now I have a tilt2 with most ATT junk deleted, I find it to be extremely responsive and works well with manila or without it. For me, flashing a rom may be best utilized as a hobby/fun on these devices until a build is perfected. If you start flashing early you should keep that in mind and expect a lot of issues. Like the poster mentioned the sense UI causing problems, remember these apps were not designed for this phone, guys customize them to fit but it is never a perfect fit, that is why IMHO, you get problems. It seems that stock ROMs are a lot better now. Likely this happened, because phone companies have become aware of the excellent ROM builders on XDA and have gotten their act together, knowing that if they do not produce a quality product, folks here will. This phenomena is a testament to all the ROM builders on this site. Eventually the liklhood is that ROM builders here will build the perfect ROM for Rhodium, which will be better than stock. Till they have one for tilt2, I will only flash my fuze in order to keep Tilt2 functioning well for work.
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I tried the nrg rom and it was GREAT on the tilt2 UNTIL i realize i could not get the hardware keyboard working even close to what its supposed to be. THEN my onscreen keyboard decided to stick on the phone pad so i coulnt type much of anything anymore without issues! Save yourself now, if you were even thinking about it.
BTW, i am back on the stock rom and staying away from mobile shell and giving minila its fair share for the first time. Im looking for easy things to make it better. If you have any tips, please PM me with them, thanks
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check my sig for the rom i use. most stable ones i ever used (and i flashed a lot ) ,even with sense ui on,cause i personally love the sense ui. been using these roms for a while now next to nrgz28's roms,wich are brilliant in their own way, but when it comes to stability the rhodium_af roms just simply rule! no bugs,no freezes,it just works. with nrg's roms i usually had to reset my tp2 at least once a day, with the roms i now use its only about once a week
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[ROM][WWE]|15-11-09|Rhodium_AF|HTC Sense 2.5|LEO 1.43|WM65 21876|VX|
I concur!!! I have always been using NRG's energy ROMs, back during my Fuze days. But ever since I switched to Ark's AF ROM, I have not looked back since. I have flashed Fusion ROM, Miri V7, ROMeOS ROM, etc but I always went back to energy. But Ark's AF ROM totally blew me away in its stability and simplicity. It does not have a lot of frills or eye-candy, but it is very stable, very usable. You guys should try it. I am flashing VX1 as I type this. Hahaha
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Hi guys,
I have made several tests and the results are quite surprising.
When I bought my O2 XDA Exec, I tried several ROMs and finally I stick to the O2 image who seems to be the more stable one. Then I tried PDA Viet Crossbow Roms where I was incredibly surprised by the speed and the new Crossbow features.
I hold on to this ROM for sometimes but there was some issues, not major one but enough annoying to make me want to try the Helmi ROM. I don't know why I got a lot of crashes and big stability issue. Then I tried the new PDAViet (2.00.06 if I remember well) which was also a nightmare of issues. At the end, I give another try to the Helmi since so many people were saying good feedback about it with also an upgrade of the radio to v1.13 and now it's working like a charm.
That's why I think it is difficult to say at the first that a ROM is better than another one. It seems to be a matter to get the upgrade right (like for cooking when you have the right measure and balance). Now the Helmi ROM is working perfectly which is really strange regarding the difference with my first experience since it is the same image (It's not a matter of applications I installed since I installed really few apps and the problem I got on the first run was without any extra apps). Even my problem I had with the PDAViet Roms are gone.
I am not planning to upgrade to a new ROM anytime soon unless there is big changes which worse it.
I was just writing to say that when you get a ROM working, no matter what rom it is, just keep it. It might be that you have the right balance and it's pricey to loose it.
Julien
You're right to a greater degree, however it depends on how each individual uses their device. Some may use the pda functions, some predominantly as a phone whilst others a combination of both. In all cases as long as what we intend to use works well enough then yes theres no real point in upgrading just as the saying goes "if its not broke then dont fix it". However, this is the first real build of Crossbow for this device and as is expected the bugs to go with it. Now we wait on a newer build that will hopefully be more efficient, faster, smoother. And remember getting your device to work smoother is exactly what the fun is all about!
Fully agree with both the posts above. The basic PDA and communication functionality is all that is required and is available in the Universal in its most basic form. However, being in this forum it is our second nature to keep upgrading and expecting each upgrade to be better than the earlier one. I personally feel that once you are satisfied with the stability and performance do not jump to the next upgrade unless the reasons are compelling.
Yeah, if it works, dont mess it up!
It seems that what works for one may not work for others!
The same goes for Radio Roms. It seems the only way to find a good radio rom is to try each one in turn untill you find one that works for you.
Maybe it depends on country and carrier?
A lot of people said 1.09 works, but i had it and it didnt.
Others said 1.13 didnt work, im using it and its great.
Tmobile-UK for me, using 1.13 and its all stable (for now, touch wood, cross fingers).
Definately DO NOT upgrade your radio rom if its working.
Totally up with you all. I've tried 4 different WM6 ROMs Jcwright's has proved perfect FOR MY NEEDS. But then, I don't really need video calling, push mail etc.
I've noticed on a lot of the threads that people are just downloading and flashing without doing too much research into the problems posed... from my experience, the only way I got this ROM as stable as it is was by thoroughly reading all WM6 threads and combining fixes from each.
A little research will go a long way.
I think all the developers have done a stand up job!
And on the Radio front, it does appear that there may be some regional discrepancies. Like Pyrofer says, I tried 4 different that others seemed to find agreeable but had problems. Like him, I've ended up on 1.13 supplied with Jcwright's ROM and couldn't be happier, but in the process of testing the others I did have to claim on my insurance for one handset (could have been a hardware issue though).
WM6 rocks! There's no doubt, but read up on whether the ROM your looking at supports your needs before you flash needlessly and start spamming the site with needless reiterations.
Just my opinion.
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And on the Radio front, it does appear that there may be some regional discrepancies. Like Pyrofer says, I tried 4 different that others seemed to find agreeable but had problems. Like him, I've ended up on 1.13 supplied with Jcwright's ROM and couldn't be happier...
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I agree, 1.13 seems to be the best radio version for use in the UK, whereas in Hong Kong the 1.14 works better but hopeless in the UK.
When I finally decided to upgrade my HTC Tilt to the new Tilt 2, never tought all the problems that this will bring.
The first unit was purchased on 2.14.10 at ATT local store. Two weeks later I decided to change the unit because of the many problems encounter.
It's been now two more weeks and this new phone is worst than the first one. I have to do a soft reset at least two times a day. Taskmanager is often gone from my Today screen or any other application.
I have installed a couple of software found around here, but decided to installed all of them to check if the were the problem. They were not.
Yesterday, I finally decided to do a hard reset and start from scratch without any installed software, other that the bloatware included from att.
The problems persist. The phone keeps stalling/freezing over any application. The emails are not being pulled from gmail, hotmail or yahoo (I have 6 configured emails).
What do you guys recommend for this. Doing another hard reset right now it's no easy task since I have to reconfigure all emails, lose SMS, etc.
I was very anxious to get my hands on this phone but it's been a nightmare from day one. My first Tilt was more stable by far.
Thanks for any suggestions, I just have to get this out of me.
It could be any number of things causing your problems.
I myself was very disappointed with my Rhodium when I got it. Was slow, glitchy.
After alot of reading and researching, I found it was most likely due to memory leakage. And that most devices come with a modified/branded ROM from the service provider.
I found that flashing a stock HTC/cooked ROM solved most of the issues. And using an app called 'cleanRAM' freed up alot of memory.
If you dont mind losing your warranty, then I suggest flashing a newer/better ROM. And using cleanRAM to free up any leaked memory instead of a soft reset each time
First things first, install SSK dynamic proxy CAB, Nopushinternet CAB, and AT&T tilt2 speed fix.
My first month of owning TP2 I felt very similar, having to reset every couple days. Now my phone only gets reset when I remove the battery or run out of battery (its been on for about 2 weeks now). CleanRAM is a great utility, but I suggest purchasing SSK Tools for its other great programs (autoclean, registry editor, task manager, program manager...basically this thing is great for tweaking your phone.
I would suggest reading around on the forums, looking at all the stickies, and searching for other users who have the same issues as you. This phone is a great phone, but like you have come to realize, it really needs to be tweaked for its full potential to be released.
Thanks for the suggestions!
ATT just confirm that my phone qualify for a replacement. Mine have a small square white sticker in the battery compartment. This seems to be the key of identify units with problems. I got the feeling that the next new unit is going to suffer the same problems.
I'm willing to work it out and tweak my tilt 2.
Only for a minute I consider to go for the BB bold 9700 but it's not even close.
Definately this forum was key when deciding to upgrade to my tilt 2.
Keep up the good work!
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Thanks for the suggestions!
ATT just confirm that my phone qualify for a replacement. Mine have a small square white sticker in the battery compartment. This seems to be the key of identify units with problems. I got the feeling that the next new unit is going to suffer the same problems.
I'm willing to work it out and tweak my tilt 2.
Only for a minute I consider to go for the BB bold 9700 but it's not even close.
Definately this forum was key when deciding to upgrade to my tilt 2.
Keep up the good work!
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All phones have the white sticker. It is how AT&T makes sure your phone has not been water damaged. It turns pink when exposed to water. You most likely aren't experiencing an issue that is specific to your phone.
All Tilt2s are horribly slow and people here just don't want to admit it. It is using the SAME processor as your original tilt, just only clocked at 528MHz instead of 400MHz but it has to drive a much higher resolution screen. Also, either WM6.5 or HTCs implementation of it on the Tilt2 is crap. It wastes memory like no other. I haven't used other WM6.5 phones so I don't know which it is.
I really like my Tilt2's appearance and absolutely love its keyboard but I hate the hardware in it. The crappyness of the OS (either due to 6.5 itself or HTCs implementation) does not help either.
I actually just found a REALLY good deal on a Telus Motorola Milestone on eBay, just $475 after Bing Cashback! I ordered it and can't wait to get it! It has a worse keyboard but its processor is a bit better and Android has surpassed WM.
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I actually just found a REALLY good deal on a Telus Motorola Milestone on eBay, just $475 after Bing Cashback! I ordered it and can't wait to get it! It has a worse keyboard but its processor is a bit better and Android has surpassed WM.
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So your bragging about a phone you do not even have in your possession yet ? can you hack it? how many custom roms are there for it ? how big is the forum dedicated this phone ? why is this the first time i have ever heard about it ? seriously please answer ALL my questions
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So your bragging about a phone you do not even have in your possession yet ? can you hack it? how many custom roms are there for it ? how big is the forum dedicated this phone ? why is this the first time i have ever heard about it ? seriously please answer ALL my questions
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because you know it by its other name, DROID.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Motorola-MILESTONE-US-phone-p_4331.html
That Motorola looks good!
Well, after your recomendations and some extra browsing around here, I decided to hard reset my Tilt 2 again and start from scratch. I have installed all the recommend software and only have one freeze up today while updating the Stocks.
Ram usage is at 55-60% most of the times.
I have also decided not to exchange my phone again, ATT was offering a refurbished unit and mine is new.
I'll stick with for now with the Win 6.5 Rom, maybe there's an update or patch coming up.
I have develop extra patience since using my Acer Aspire One with Intel Atom processor, this thing also get really slow at times...
Phew that was nerve wrecking
But successful
Thanks to the wonderful guides here and supporting posts by the community, it was pretty painless. Now its just a matter of finding which ROM I'd like to stick with for the time being. I just couldn't wait any longer to play with Froyo, and I like the roughness of the N1 version but for now I've gone back to the Mocado Sense ROM until all the issues have really been ironed out with the custom Froyo ROMs. I have both images on the SD and it takes about 2 mins from boot to switch now, I'm impressed that I can back up and recover so easily.
I'm soo impressed actually, you guys are fantastic.
I guess really this is just an ass licking thread in the end
that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.
Nice one. It's a great feeling when you root successfully first time isn't it
You get a great sense of satisfaction.
If you like 2.1 roms over froyo at the minute, you should try one of pays roms in the dev section. They are a few pages down now as he hasn't kept the thread updated because he had to send his phone to HTC for repair (not rom related) lol.
His roms are very good, and a lot of people including me really like them. I'm on a froyo rom now though because I can't stop changing. lol.
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that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.
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Yes you're right I stand corrected, lets move on
@socktug, okay I'll look at those.. I do like the inclusion of Wavesecure in the Modaco ROM but now its rooted I'm sure I'll look around before I settle. No point getting too cosy cos in a month or two an official sense Froyo will come and I'll have to flash that anyway.
(edit) I mean a custom version of the Sense Froyo of course
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that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.
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to each his own
seriously though, we are indeed fortunate to have such a talented and generous membership at XDA. things will get even better once Desire is sold in the US and more even people get on board.
I think ass licking would leave more of a bitter taste in your mouth and i imagine the texture would be something similar to Nutella.
+1 for the idea of ass kissing as opposed to ass licking (and no, i am not gay if that is what you were thinking!)
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Welcome to the rooted world
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ROFL... indeed
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ROFL... indeed
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You mean ROLF!
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Yes you're right I stand corrected, lets move on
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Yet you still haven't edited your first post At least we know what your preference is
Actually i did mean ROFL (rolling on floor laughing)...
Just a coincidence that Socktug is called Rolf!
Now that is what i call funny!
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Wow pretty much same here! I rooted for the first time yesterday, but didn't go over as straight forward as I would've hoped. First I tried the Linux method which didn't work - apparently I need a goldcard even though my phone's unlocked and unbranded. Then it took forever to get the ADB interface to recognize the phone - major problems with Win7 x64 at first. Finally got that right though (after several hours). From then on it was quite smooth.
I installed PaY's BraveSoul ROM and quite love it
I want to try out FroYo, but there's one thing stopping me. It's kind of a small thing, but maybe one of you can shed some light? Here goes:
So, I like Sense. Quite a bit. But I'm willing to go to vanilla Android if there is a way to keep my contact information built up properly. i.e. right now, my contacts are merged with Facebook/Sense which gives birthdays, profile pictures, email addresses etc. all under one unified contact - will I lose that if I go to FroYo? Is there a way to make all those details static so they can be carried forward to a non-Sense ROM?
Hope this isn't extremely off-topic!
Yeah, you do sacrifice a lot of useful functionality moving away from Sense to a froyo rom, including the way it mingles all of your contacts together. It's a personal preference really but I prefer the mail app, HTC browser and photos app in Sense to Android 2.2, the mail app is actually far superior as you can use contacts from any of your accounts and the corporate address book when you cmopose a new message.
Not wanting to start rom wars here but I think Pays roms are the best - they include a lot of nice features like automatic ad blocking, I've tried pretty much everything on this board and I always end up going back.
As for rooting, it is necessary when HTC have given us such a pathetic amount of phone storage, I ran out after a week and only had about 20 apps installed. Rooting was necessary so that I could install apps to the sd card and use my phone without having to constantly do housekeeping in my market downloads.
Hey carrige, I just rooted 2 days ago, and I can say that I am seeing a lot of difference in speed and quality, compared to the stock ROM. Yeah I too miss the HTC contacts widget, since it used to sync every contact detail together, and liked a lot how the images on facebook were ported to my phone contacts. However I found something similiar to that, it only ports the photos though, and not the info.
As regards to ROMS, I only tried DeFrost and Mondaco's and I can tell you they are pretty amazing!
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Wow pretty much same here! I rooted for the first time yesterday, but didn't go over as straight forward as I would've hoped. First I tried the Linux method which didn't work - apparently I need a goldcard even though my phone's unlocked and unbranded. Then it took forever to get the ADB interface to recognize the phone - major problems with Win7 x64 at first. Finally got that right though (after several hours). From then on it was quite smooth.
I installed PaY's BraveSoul ROM and quite love it
I want to try out FroYo, but there's one thing stopping me. It's kind of a small thing, but maybe one of you can shed some light? Here goes:
So, I like Sense. Quite a bit. But I'm willing to go to vanilla Android if there is a way to keep my contact information built up properly. i.e. right now, my contacts are merged with Facebook/Sense which gives birthdays, profile pictures, email addresses etc. all under one unified contact - will I lose that if I go to FroYo? Is there a way to make all those details static so they can be carried forward to a non-Sense ROM?
Hope this isn't extremely off-topic!
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Well, I'm still on the fence. My phone runs very smooth, does almost everything I need, the only reason to root would be aps2sd but I think I can wait for the official Froyo+Sense update that should come any day now [sarcasm].
Of course, I haven't tried any of the custom ROMs, so, what am I missing? What would be the 3 most amazing things that you could say about the current rom you're using?
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Not at all, I dont do off topic.
3 things:
1- The ability to perform a FULL backup to SD that can be reinstated in about 2-3 mins on a good day.
2- Being able to do small customisations like using the rotary lockscreen or the circular battery icon (which trust me is effing kool!).
3- I've had a go on Froyo (gone back to 2.1 for the time being for stability) and in 6 months I'm sure I'll get a go on Gingerbread.
4- A2SD+ means I will never run out of space, not only this I can further customise the ROM with ADB and remove **** I really dont need like 'stocks', 'peep' & 'Friendstream' (I ****ing hate twitter with a passion).
5- You can stick 5 up your arse.
Since rooting my phone has felt complete (even tho I've flashed it about 100 times in the past 23 hours), stable.. more unique, solid, cool, better.
I remember when I had my PSP and I butchered my only battery to make a pandora and got the m33 custom firmware on it. This is the same thing.
It makes the boundries clearer about who the device belongs to.. I'll give you a clue... it's MINE.
"Those who dare Rodney, Those who dare...!"
oursoul said:
1- The ability to perform a FULL backup to SD that can be reinstated in about 2-3 mins on a good day.
2- Being able to do small customisations like using the rotary lockscreen or the circular battery icon (which trust me is effing kool!).
3- I've had a go on Froyo (gone back to 2.1 for the time being for stability) and in 6 months I'm sure I'll get a go on Gingerbread.
4- A2SD+ means I will never run out of space, not only this I can further customise the ROM with ADB and remove **** I really dont need like 'stocks', 'peep' & 'Friendstream' (I ****ing hate twitter with a passion).
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Hmmm ... so let me summarize:
[BACKGROUD: I had a G1 and flashed it countless times, I know how the game goes]
1. why would you need that on a rock solid device? Backups areonly needed if you feel unsecure, if you flash it over and over again, so you can go back if something goes wrong.
2. OK, I get it, but this one is soooo small, it's not worth counting. Not worth the risk (don't tell me it's risk free because it NEVER is)
3. so you don't even get the benefits of Froyo but you (maybe) lose Sense. I for one love Sense.
4. OK, that is ONE. (I already stated thiswould bea reason).
So, bottom line, you are saying CUSTOMIZATION. Hmmm, not worth the risk IMHO.
P.S. I'm not trying to play smart, I'm doing this for the sake of arguments / counterarguments.
P.P.S. If you feel we are going off-topic here please say and I will start a new thread.
There's no such things as offtopic on an oursoul thread okay.
1- True say, cos obviously if you've rooted you're gonna try some crazy **** sometimes, its just good to know that with the Recovery patched you will never completely **** it up. And the backup just means that when you've made that perfect setup you can freeze it in case you have to replace your handset or unroot for any reason. Means you can Test a new ROM and if you dont like you can recover in minutes to your happyROM.
2- Come on mate, its ****ing cool.. I hate the Sense lockscreen, its bollocks.. I like the rotary one personally .. round and round hehe. This point was more than that, its about pure customisation.
4- Yeah you mentioned that but I added the fact that you can also delete **** you dont need, very good imo.
3- I said test Froyo, I'm not interested in keeping it cos I love sense too.. I might have kept Froyo if the N1 camera app wasn't so shoddy. I already miss my c905 camera quality. I love how on the MoDaCo rom you can move the homescreens about in 'helicopter' view
PS dont worry about it bruv, you're safe with me..
It really isn't that hard to root as long as you follow the instructions on the top of the Dev page here.
I had to have my goldcard in to root, but it was easy.. then applying the UnrEVOked Recovery patch was just the icing on the cake.
Point I wanna make now, is my phone is now better than yours pascanu
oursoul said:
4- Yeah you mentioned that but I added the fact that you can also delete **** you dont need, very good imo.
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Missed that one, very true, I agree with you, I hate a lot of those apps too.
oursoul said:
It really isn't that hard to root as long as you follow the instructions on the top of the Dev page here.
I had to have my goldcard in to root, but it was easy.. then applying the UnrEVOked Recovery patch was just the icing on the cake.
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Yeah, yeah, I know. Still, I don't feel like going through the "pain" if my phone performs SO well. The G1 was a completely different story, it needed to be rooted to make it a true Android phone. When I got my Desire I was (and still am!) blown away by the speed and all those things it could do right out of the box. I don't know, maybe I'm just getting old, but at some point I'm wondering if I'm actually using the phone or just trying to make it do things.
oursoul said:
Point I wanna make now, is my phone is now better than yours pascanu
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Oh NO, it's not! Mine is better for a lot of reasons! Want one? BECAUSE IT'S SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
BACK ON TOPIC (beware, I changed the topic now):
You still haven't convinced me. Anybody else would like to take a shot here?!
P.S. I'm surprised Market Enabler didn't show up as a reason to root. Maybe you are all Brits or whatever but for a lot of us Market only offers free stuff. But I decided it's not a reason to root since I can find everything I need on the "dark side". Sorry developers, I know it's not your fault but it's not mine either. If Google enables payed apps for Romania I will start buying again. Until then I'm a pirate!
I've got to admit, as someone that constantly flashed roms to my HTC Magic, I was very happy on the stock desire rom aside from the running out of storage issue. HTC did a good job. If the phone had enough storage I would still be running the stock rom now. I don't see any real reason to root other than the lack of phone storage. Froyo roms still don't work properly anyway - for me they ALL have an echo on the line. I would stay with stock if you are happy, don't crumble under the peer pressure!!
I stumbled on to this site looking at phones on ebay. Great find. I see that some of the threads indicate that some end users have been able to replace the ROM and OS on there Tilt 2 WINMO phones with Android and other fixes to make this incredibly slow freezing phone a respectable Smart Phone. I have been a WINMO user for over eight years and have never owned a bigger slower piece since my original brick phone. Have had it replaced twice and now am going to switch to the new Android offering from At&t. But if I can make this better phone I am all about it. I know I sound like a total rook but some help would be appreciated.
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I stumbled on to this site looking at phones on ebay. Great find. I see that some of the threads indicate that some end users have been able to replace the ROM and OS on there Tilt 2 WINMO phones with Android and other fixes to make this incredibly slow freezing phone a respectable Smart Phone. I have been a WINMO user for over eight years and have never owned a bigger slower piece since my original brick phone. Have had it replaced twice and now am going to switch to the new Android offering from At&t. But if I can make this better phone I am all about it. I know I sound like a total rook but some help would be appreciated.
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sure you can replace WM with Android, but remember its not a fully operational OS because its a port, so i hope you can live with no sound, bluetooth and no camera....battery could be an issue but with the latest builds its been a HUGE improvement ever since the project started, and also to have a MicroSD card in hand to make Android work, but keep in mind the speeds are not going to be like Windows Mobile since it runs off of a MicroSD, but if you really up for it and you want to speed up your Tilt 2 if youre on WM, i recommend flashing a ROM just be sure to HARDSPL before you do
Android:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997
Flashing ROMs guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
good luck!
Cool so Android is out on the Tilt. I noticed what you have done with your tilt 2. Even though I am Computer savy I would like to do something somewhat easy for the first time out. Thanks for the help I will check out the info you gave me and hopefully get it done right.
I keep reading posts about what a POS the Tilt 2/TP2 is and I'm baffled because mine just doesn't seem to fit that description. Mind you, it's no speed demon, but it does all I ask of it with ease. And I've yet to have it freeze up requiring a physical reset. I hard reset it once, but that was because I installed some stuff that wasn't designed for it. I've modded the heck out of mine and gotten the eye candy (of which there's a ton to choose from) where I like it. Yesterday, I impressed some friends when I quickly got some restaurant info from Bing on my phone and then did a quick Skyfire search on some rock band to settle a bet. This is not my first WinMo device, but it certainly is the best so far.
brother I wish mine was all that. I got my first htc tilt2 in Jan this year. Did alot of research and did not find a whole lot to worry about. Got the phone and was happy for about the first month was up. The internet is slow, constantly freezes, when switching to keyboard the darn thing goes three ways from sunday and locks up. I have actually seen static like on my tv. So I went to the local At&T device support center and the dough head told me its windows you will have to learn to deal with it being a hunk of junk. On my second one signal sucks still slow as hell and locks up all the time. Have had to reset (hard) numerous times. Not gona get rid of them, however gona check out some of the mods and see how it goes. The HTC is also not my first WINMO originally started with the orginal Black Jack and dont look forward to the droid conversion. But Will check it out and Hopefully mod this one out with this site.
Some of you may have read my thread on the Blackstone forum : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902656
For the last 5 months I have been loosing faith with HTC's WM Phones. It all started when I received a TP2 as an upgrade over my old Touch HD, to start it seemed great, then after a few weeks it gradually got slower and slower until i had to wait several seconds each time i tapped the screen!
So i changed the ROM to one of the Athine OS roms, this seemed ok, only a little buggy, but same again after a few weeks of use the phone just got slower and slower!
I decide to go back to Touch HD, first with one of Dutty's roms, after a few weeks random problem all files on device go corrupt, only hard reset will fix, tried another ROM from KWBR again i am happy for a few weeks until my contacts disappear and i am forced in to hard reset again!
This time i thought i would give the TP2 another chance to redeem itself. I really want the Leo style with the grid type arrangement on the favourites tab, facebook support & the Twitter tab.
Please can someone help me find a decent ROM and help me restore my faith in HTC phones? I am getting so fed up with the constant "you should get an Iphone" comments from my friends!
Well I have been using the EnergyROM for about a week after being a stock ROM guy for almost 2 years, and this is like a new phone. I also sped it up with WinMoSpeed, the thing is so darn fast, works well, and great eye candy I think I have a brand new phone!
It looks like you have been trying lots of ROMs. From what I have read, you may want to try flashing one after flashing with Task29, which clears out extraneous junk that could be left over from prior installations on your phone. From my experience with EnergyROM, if you read the directions very carefully, do exactly what it says, you will have a well-performing phone. I am super happy with my Tilt 2. Good luck!