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Are you happy with you Universal?

i just have to ask this question...
I have my MDA-Pro for about 2 months now and have installed two O2 roms (I'm at present running 1.13.82 WWE from 02).
but i'm just not convinced. i'd love to love love my Universal (I am a self confessed gadget person who just HAS to have the newest thing!). it's just not 'doing it' for me yet.
UMTS (i am with the german provider e-plus) is not spectacular, the phone is ok, but i get mixed opinions as to my calls with my bluetooth headset...(jabra BT800).
Also, the device just doesn't feel snappy. it has a fast processor and i have really not many programs installed (the basics: pocket informant, resco explorer, pocket mechanic, skype & ozVGA - although i don't always run in VGA).
for navigation i own a mio168 with TomTom 5. This device feels quicker than my Universal.
am i doing something wrong? can i do something right?
i appreciate your help and comments.

Hi effjay,
just for one subject of your message.
I use a BT800 as well and have the same result using it (not even UMTS, just GSM). My experience is that if the actual available memory is too small, the BT gets bad quality. A soft-reset and I am confirmed to be totally clear again.
Your question I would answer with : "not yet" meaning I am convinced that one or two updates (which still have to come) and I will be happy.
Ruud

effjay said:
Are you happy with you Universal?
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NO :x :?

i don't know why i do it!
i purchased a HP6315 when they first came out (i was lucky to be holidaying in singapore at that time!), and i sold it again quite quickly as i was not happy with the performance.
i guess i should have learned from that lesson. i was (am?) really hoping that the universal will be the thing it should be, but it just isn't. it's unreliable.
things that worked fine yesterday (i.e. voice dialling with my jabra BT800) for whatever reason decided to not work today. i had to reset and then everything was fine. this is not acceptable and it's so annoying.
so i guess (after my moaning!) all i'm trying to say is that i hope that someone, somewhere can finally deliver a ROM that is stable, is economic with memory and that just does what it's supposed to!
stranger things have happened...haven't they?!

effjay said:
Are you happy with you Universal?
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Not really.
I love the screen, I love the keyboard, but it's soooo slow. I would love to see a HTC Universe with PalmOS Or Windows Mobile 2003. My Old MDA III (Blue Angel) is MUCH faster. And it has only 400MHz (or 420?)

Am I happy?.
no at all.
i hate this machine specially with my Arabic langauge.
no way to buy again...
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I hate this device!
I spent a lot of money on this brick! It simply doesn't work! (T-Mobile Pro!)
1.) EVERY morning it has hang up! seems to happen on recieving a mail or sms.
2.) When you open it and put it like a Laptop on your desc you cannot tap on the screen without tipping it. It will fall on its back!
You have to use your second hand! (SIC!) Even then!
3.) T-Mobile branding is so annoying that I sometimes get angry just by looking at it! Startscreen (morning booting)
4.) I'm using a DELL X50v and a Compact, a XDA III and a QTec 8310.
Each of this devices is at least 2 times faster (Even with switched off Error Handling) Its unbelievable SLOW!
5.) Roaming does not work well. When I travel by train or car, my colleages can phone for hours without any troubles. My sh*** Pro does just hang up or disconnect every 5-10 minutes.
6.) Finaly - this device seems to be unhackable (there is still no SIM-Unlocker) This may make T-Mobile happy, but not me as a customer.
There are about 25 further problems. If anyone would like to see them, just tell me!
This device is NOT for professional use!
eegee

eegee said:
This device is NOT for professional use!
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I totally agree.
This is a nice, first generation beta childplay.
This is something the same when Frank Zappa published one album which was totally empty.

I bought mine purely for experimental purposes, I have no real need for a PDA! As such I think it's great.
I'm not convinced as a phone and will be getting a second, much smaller handset. I wouldn't like to rely on this device on a professional level. I find the battery life very poor and it once lost all my contacts. They came back after a soft reset, but I wasn't happy to have to wait over 5 mins to make a call.
Once the teething problems have been sorted out, I'm sure it will be a fantastic device. It has the potential to be great! I fear however, that by the time the problems are sorted out, there will be better, faster, smaller, more reliable devices available.
Sank5

nope!
its slow and seemingly buggy, i would like someone to do a backup on their phone that works properly then post that to see if it makes a difference... we could end up with a workable model after all..
o2 exec

I love my exec! I wouldn't change it for the world! Of course it is going to have teething troubles, but these are being sorted, both by software updates and the great people on this forum! The size issue is irrelevant, we all knew it was going to be big, and as people have already explained on this forum elsewhere the vga screen is the main reason it is a bit slow.
Just my two cents!
Fin

I absolutely loved it when I first got it. But I'm getting more and more frustrated with it.
1) The goddamn alarms just refuse to work half the time. I never know if it will work in the morning or if it won't wake me up. I spent 1,200 US and it doesn't even work as an alarm clock!
2) The device is really slow.
3) The ActiveSync in incredibly unreliable: sometimes it just stops syncing for no apparent reason at all. Everything worked the night before but it doesn't the very next morning. What the...?! Now, all of a sudden it starts asking me for an Exchange password. Why? I didn't do anything differently!
4) The POP mail account just disappears sometimes.
5) The phone is so difficult to answer - you press the button and nothing happens - the thing just freezes and I have to call people back.
6) Some programs just disappear from the Settings menu and reappear later after a few soft resets.
It's annoying that the thing is so frustrating - it's such a great concept! But the only way it work in an acceptable manner is if it doesn't have any programs installed - right after a hard reset, but if that's the case, there's no point in this "micro laptop" if you can't install programs.

VERY HAPPY.
Doesn't feel faster than my old JAM, but it's got 4 times the pixels to shift. A good memory manager and never switching it off allows it to remain zippy-ish though.
Wifi is rock solid, bluetooth works a treat, but I use that less at the moment, activesync sucks balls, but that's an MS problem, 3G/GPRS/AS/Wifi switching works flawlessy, screen rotation works great, WM5.0 isn't compatible with all my fave progs yet, but give it time, battery life is good, as long as I don't use a lot of wifi without a charger (suits me) , screen is great, keyboard is great...
Loving it so far.

Universal - great PDA, rubbish phone
there is no doubting that the Universal is a superb PDA - i don't really have so many problems using it for surfing either.
it's just mainly the phone part. it's not reliable.
so often i'm told that i was not available although my universal was turned on and i was definately within a very good signal range. upon rebooting the universal everything is fine.
due to browsing the forums here i had a very lean system with really only some basic stuff: pocketInformat, resco explorer, magic button & ozVGA
i was running the O2 ROM (corporate mode) - although i have just updated to the new T-Mobile German ROM...
i hope that it addresses some of my phone reliability issues.
i'll keep you all posted

Besides the Activesync which at times decides to go on vacation, I think this device rocks.
Everyone knew it was big so that doesn't really count doesn't it?

Tilt 2

I stumbled on to this site looking at phones on ebay. Great find. I see that some of the threads indicate that some end users have been able to replace the ROM and OS on there Tilt 2 WINMO phones with Android and other fixes to make this incredibly slow freezing phone a respectable Smart Phone. I have been a WINMO user for over eight years and have never owned a bigger slower piece since my original brick phone. Have had it replaced twice and now am going to switch to the new Android offering from At&t. But if I can make this better phone I am all about it. I know I sound like a total rook but some help would be appreciated.

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I stumbled on to this site looking at phones on ebay. Great find. I see that some of the threads indicate that some end users have been able to replace the ROM and OS on there Tilt 2 WINMO phones with Android and other fixes to make this incredibly slow freezing phone a respectable Smart Phone. I have been a WINMO user for over eight years and have never owned a bigger slower piece since my original brick phone. Have had it replaced twice and now am going to switch to the new Android offering from At&t. But if I can make this better phone I am all about it. I know I sound like a total rook but some help would be appreciated.
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sure you can replace WM with Android, but remember its not a fully operational OS because its a port, so i hope you can live with no sound, bluetooth and no camera....battery could be an issue but with the latest builds its been a HUGE improvement ever since the project started, and also to have a MicroSD card in hand to make Android work, but keep in mind the speeds are not going to be like Windows Mobile since it runs off of a MicroSD, but if you really up for it and you want to speed up your Tilt 2 if youre on WM, i recommend flashing a ROM just be sure to HARDSPL before you do
Android:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997
Flashing ROMs guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
good luck!

Cool so Android is out on the Tilt. I noticed what you have done with your tilt 2. Even though I am Computer savy I would like to do something somewhat easy for the first time out. Thanks for the help I will check out the info you gave me and hopefully get it done right.

I keep reading posts about what a POS the Tilt 2/TP2 is and I'm baffled because mine just doesn't seem to fit that description. Mind you, it's no speed demon, but it does all I ask of it with ease. And I've yet to have it freeze up requiring a physical reset. I hard reset it once, but that was because I installed some stuff that wasn't designed for it. I've modded the heck out of mine and gotten the eye candy (of which there's a ton to choose from) where I like it. Yesterday, I impressed some friends when I quickly got some restaurant info from Bing on my phone and then did a quick Skyfire search on some rock band to settle a bet. This is not my first WinMo device, but it certainly is the best so far.

brother I wish mine was all that. I got my first htc tilt2 in Jan this year. Did alot of research and did not find a whole lot to worry about. Got the phone and was happy for about the first month was up. The internet is slow, constantly freezes, when switching to keyboard the darn thing goes three ways from sunday and locks up. I have actually seen static like on my tv. So I went to the local At&T device support center and the dough head told me its windows you will have to learn to deal with it being a hunk of junk. On my second one signal sucks still slow as hell and locks up all the time. Have had to reset (hard) numerous times. Not gona get rid of them, however gona check out some of the mods and see how it goes. The HTC is also not my first WINMO originally started with the orginal Black Jack and dont look forward to the droid conversion. But Will check it out and Hopefully mod this one out with this site.

is it just me

ok. i have had a tilt, fuze, and tilt 2 now through att over the past 22 months and i dont mean to sound like a man in a tinfoil hat but are they purposely killing our phones? follow me here... i had 2 devices on verizon in 2 years and they were completely stock and worked until the end of my contract,the only reason i had 2 was i broke the first and they replaced it with a newer one through the insurance program. i came to att for the tilt. for the first few months it was awesome, then it all went to crud.reloads wouldnt help. started warranty exchanging til i was blue in the face, about 5 devices, each replacement came back with the exact same problems the original one took months to develop. they swapped me for a fuze. same story, worked flawlessly for a couple months. even running hacked roms and registry edits... then it all went south. started the exchange game. 7 fuzes later they again offered me the one time upgrade for the second time.... alas the tilt 2. incredible phone... ran cooked roms and reg edits without a problem. all my apps never had any issues. then it all started. played the reload game.. nothing seemed to help. around the same time my girlfriends tilt 2 and her dads started with the exact same issues as mine and hers was stock, his was modded. coincidence? now. im playing the warranty exchange game again. and this time there have been 2 insurance phones thrown in the mix , 1 fell down a ladder, one didnt survive my frustration with att. 8 phones later. thursday i open a box with a brand new tilt 2. boot it up. load my minimal requirements to make me happy and out of the gate it has the same issues!!!!!! dropped call, screen orientation issues, lock up constantly, txt message issues, audio issues, bluetooth issues... you name it! its been upgraded to latest software. theres nothing left to tweak on it. att's advice to me was" you are eligible for an upgrade, u should switch to the iphone" im sorry but i have no use for that thing, this is their only current winmo buisness class phone with a keyboard for my fat fingers and it DOESNT WORK! internet is USELESS. is this their way of forcing us to upgrade or do i need to adjust my tin foil hat so the aliens cant read my mind? dont wanna sound like a nut but somethings up. my new non refurbished replacement should be here monday or tuesday. i don't even know if its worth opening the box. this has me ready to pull the plug on att and switch to evo.

Am I getting you right, 20 phones in 22 months?
All I can think is, EXTREMELY bad run on luck on phones. I got the original Tilt at launch and used it (2 years) until the Tilt2 launched, and have had that handset since. Both work perfectly. In fact, I still use the old Tilt as a "backup" once in a while (loaned it to a co-worker a couple times this year when he needed a phone that would roam in Japan).

Mydixiwrecked00 said:
ok. i have had a tilt, fuze, and tilt 2 now through att over the past 22 months and i dont mean to sound like a man in a tinfoil hat but are they purposely killing our phones? follow me here... i had 2 devices on verizon in 2 years and they were completely stock and worked until the end of my contract,the only reason i had 2 was i broke the first and they replaced it with a newer one through the insurance program. i came to att for the tilt. for the first few months it was awesome, then it all went to crud.reloads wouldnt help. started warranty exchanging til i was blue in the face, about 5 devices, each replacement came back with the exact same problems the original one took months to develop. they swapped me for a fuze. same story, worked flawlessly for a couple months. even running hacked roms and registry edits... then it all went south. started the exchange game. 7 fuzes later they again offered me the one time upgrade for the second time.... alas the tilt 2. incredible phone... ran cooked roms and reg edits without a problem. all my apps never had any issues. then it all started. played the reload game.. nothing seemed to help. around the same time my girlfriends tilt 2 and her dads started with the exact same issues as mine and hers was stock, his was modded. coincidence? now. im playing the warranty exchange game again. and this time there have been 2 insurance phones thrown in the mix , 1 fell down a ladder, one didnt survive my frustration with att. 8 phones later. thursday i open a box with a brand new tilt 2. boot it up. load my minimal requirements to make me happy and out of the gate it has the same issues!!!!!! dropped call, screen orientation issues, lock up constantly, txt message issues, audio issues, bluetooth issues... you name it! its been upgraded to latest software. theres nothing left to tweak on it. att's advice to me was" you are eligible for an upgrade, u should switch to the iphone" im sorry but i have no use for that thing, this is their only current winmo buisness class phone with a keyboard for my fat fingers and it DOESNT WORK! internet is USELESS. is this their way of forcing us to upgrade or do i need to adjust my tin foil hat so the aliens cant read my mind? dont wanna sound like a nut but somethings up. my new non refurbished replacement should be here monday or tuesday. i don't even know if its worth opening the box. this has me ready to pull the plug on att and switch to evo.
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I went
First off, let me start with. you should flash the new radio that is out, in my signature. Second. You should try a custom rom. as it makes this phone way worth it. The bluetooth. There is a cab out there, i will link it, that will help u with that, and also loudness of speaker, incalling, and your mic for outcalling.
These are not my cabs. i in no way take credit for them. i just found them.

My TP2 has been pissing me off lately too. Ive only had it for about 7 months, I dont have it loaded with apps, in fact there are only about 10 I use regularly and it is the stock ROM. I frequently have to do soft resets because it freezes, it takes forever to load apps, messages, just about anything takes 30 seconds or more sometimes.. when i use the retarded headphone attachment with a charger plugged in it when i play music it constantly goes to voice connect even when i have VC turned off. I recently got a free iPhone 3g cus my dad got the new i4 and I've been thinking about using it instead. If I can find comparable programs on the iphone like WMWiFiRouter and scilors groovemobile i will def. switch to the 3g.

I am on my 5th touch pro 2 from t-mobile, due to a power issue and the leaky screen. That said, after turning off manila (I hate that ****) and using a few today plugins, it works beautifully.
What really helped: overclocking it. I have it set up to be dynamic, so it clocks back when the screen is off, but good lord, did it make a difference. Using the phone, what used to be an exercise in patience is now quite enjoyable. Everything happens almost immediately, my battery still lasts me 1-2 days, and very little weirdness.
That said, I've always had the habit of just rebooting my phone whenever I plug it in to charge. No idea why, but I've never had any stability/functionality problems with my phones. They've just sometimes turned off when sliding them closed, hence the 5the phone.

Wow sounds like the gsm users are having a lot of issues lol. I'm still on my original tp2/sprint, going on 9 months now. Never had any major issues with it. Rarely do I drop a call. Have never upgraded radios. Hardware has all remained functional, and with an overclock this phone is great. Probably my favorite winmo device.
Sent from my Neopeek-Froyorider RC2 using XDA App

Man this is my 1st time reading threads from general part of forum and it's hilarious.

Alright, new phone is here. I will be reloading it tomorrow night. Lets see what happens.

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Wow sounds like the gsm users are having a lot of issues lol. I'm still on my original tp2/sprint, going on 9 months now. Never had any major issues with it. Rarely do I drop a call. Have never upgraded radios. Hardware has all remained functional, and with an overclock this phone is great. Probably my favorite winmo device.
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Ya and now I'm with Sprint . And I hope there's no going back. They destroy HTC phones, by changing them to there specifics . Bs .... 6 years in prison with ATT, is like bubba taking Ye lunch daily...
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[Q] Windows Phone 7 - What's all the crying for?

Last week i placed an order for an HTC HD7 - yes! yes! despite it having supposedly a sub-par quality display and all - but while visiting a local shop here in Pakistan, i was surprised to find none other than the HTC Mozart. The box was packed and he wouldn't open it for me to see the device till i put some cash on the counter and committed to purchase... So i was definitely a little bit hesitant. I searched around the entire market in Lahore and surprisingly no one else had any Windows Phone 7 devices in stock, and then my heart raced at the idea of getting a new device right then rather than wait 2 weeks for it to get delivered and thus i ended up buying the Mozart and canceled my order of the HD7...
It has been over 3 days now since i bought it and i'm completely in love with the system! (Might i add, the display on the Mozart is STUNNING!) Everything was smooth... from the first boot to initial setup to syncing with Zune and all. Even my outlook and facebook contacts played nice with each other and linked together perfectly for the most part. But of course i dreaded problems in the Operating System as i've been reading from other users... When i purchased the phone, i braced myself for application crashes, device hangups, unresponsiveness, connectivity issues, and more..
But surprisingly... I haven't had a single application crash yet! Well, if you don't count this one time when one of the HTC applications crashed while loading up but when started again, it let me in without any problem - i.e. i didn't have to restart. Actually, it's been close to 2 days now since i restarted the phone and in that time i've installed new games and applications and tested them out, responded to dozens of emails, connected with facebook, and a lot more... (the only time i restarted it the first time was when i had set up all accounts and everything else... kind of an old habit i guess carried over from Windows Mobile )
So i'm confused when i read about application crashes, and unresponsive UI, and what not. Sure there are times a game might take a tad bit longer than usual to load up (but honestly, even 'The Harvest' loads up pretty quick on the Mozart) or when you tap on an item in the menu, it doesn't register so you have to top it again... but overall, the RTM of Windows Phone 7 seems to be quite a stable build!
Before i decided to move to Windows Phone 7, i read dozens and dozens of reviews of the software and devices... the best one was by Paul Thurrott (h ttp://www.winsupersite.com/mobile/wp7.asp) who sums it up as follows (excerpt only): "Windows Phone 7 is a game changer, for both Microsoft and the broader smart phone industry. But for the short term, you need to know going in that Windows Phone is beautiful but flawed." The thing i really liked about his review is that he praises the system openly but also bashes it for every single problem and shortcoming in the system... If you haven't read it yet, do so now... I promise you that you won't find a better review than this.
I agree with him... There are flaws here and there and definitely some functionality that we would have liked to see, but give it a break guys... this is version 1.0! And from the looks of it, it looks like Microsoft is gearing up for an update that'll not only include Copy-Paste but other functions and fixes.. and unlike some systems, we won't have to wait a whole year for updates...
Sure i've had to tap more than once to open something, or my biggest problem was with it adding a '/' character when i hit the enter key while in landscape (this happened only once, i switched to portrait and went back to landscape and it was fixed)
The biggest problem that i have with my new Windows Phone 7 device? I hate that i can't change tracks using the provided handsfree... and from what i'm hearing, it's probably not supported in v1. Maybe whoever told me that is wrong and someone here know why i can't get it to work? Not much phone taking our the phone everytime i want to change the track while running on the treadmill... But other than that... i LOVE my phone and i LOOOOOOOOOOVE Windows Phone 7...
How about you?
Regards.
Salman Khalid.

congrats on the purchase. how much did it cost in local currency?

It cost me Rs. 60,000/- for the device... which is close to $700... I know it's expensive compared to what its being sold for at various sites like Expansys and Clove, but it was totally worth clearing out my wallet for...

So it wasn't service locked? The only WP7 device that I've heard of that isn't locked to a service provider is the dell venue pro

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So it wasn't service locked? The only WP7 device that I've heard of that isn't locked to a service provider is the dell venue pro
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Nope... it was unlocked. It's branded Orange and has their software on it too, but completely unlocked...
I'm wondering if i do a hard-reset, not that i need to, would it lock it by any chance?
Another day gone by and another day's great experience...
One other thing that i don't like that much is the battery... I mean, it gets me through most part of the day but i expected it to be better. Perhaps the fast drain is due to my high usage along with Bluetooth and Wifi continuously turned on and Exchange email hooked up and all...?

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Nope... it was unlocked. It's branded Orange and has their software on it too, but completely unlocked...
I'm wondering if i do a hard-reset, not that i need to, would it lock it by any chance?
Another day gone by and another day's great experience...
One other thing that i don't like that much is the battery... I mean, it gets me through most part of the day but i expected it to be better. Perhaps the fast drain is due to my high usage along with Bluetooth and Wifi continuously turned on and Exchange email hooked up and all...?
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Once your phone is unlocked, it's unlocked for good. You can do a hard-reset with no problems. Battery will get better day by day don't worry. It takes a full month for the battery to learn your charge/discharge habbits. You want to discharge your phone battery as much as you can before you put it for charge again to increase battery life.

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Once your phone is unlocked, it's unlocked for good. You can do a hard-reset with no problems. Battery will get better day by day don't worry. It takes a full month for the battery to learn your charge/discharge habbits. You want to discharge your phone battery as much as you can before you put it for charge again to increase battery life.
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Cool... thanks for that!
Love the device more... It's an attention grabber too!

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Once your phone is unlocked, it's unlocked for good. You can do a hard-reset with no problems. Battery will get better day by day don't worry. It takes a full month for the battery to learn your charge/discharge habbits. You want to discharge your phone battery as much as you can before you put it for charge again to increase battery life.
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Yeah buying them unlocked is always good if you have the money as its always better than being locked in a contract with a carrier.

Looking for WM6.5 ROM with Manilla/Sense 2.5

Some of you may have read my thread on the Blackstone forum : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902656
For the last 5 months I have been loosing faith with HTC's WM Phones. It all started when I received a TP2 as an upgrade over my old Touch HD, to start it seemed great, then after a few weeks it gradually got slower and slower until i had to wait several seconds each time i tapped the screen!
So i changed the ROM to one of the Athine OS roms, this seemed ok, only a little buggy, but same again after a few weeks of use the phone just got slower and slower!
I decide to go back to Touch HD, first with one of Dutty's roms, after a few weeks random problem all files on device go corrupt, only hard reset will fix, tried another ROM from KWBR again i am happy for a few weeks until my contacts disappear and i am forced in to hard reset again!
This time i thought i would give the TP2 another chance to redeem itself. I really want the Leo style with the grid type arrangement on the favourites tab, facebook support & the Twitter tab.
Please can someone help me find a decent ROM and help me restore my faith in HTC phones? I am getting so fed up with the constant "you should get an Iphone" comments from my friends!

Well I have been using the EnergyROM for about a week after being a stock ROM guy for almost 2 years, and this is like a new phone. I also sped it up with WinMoSpeed, the thing is so darn fast, works well, and great eye candy I think I have a brand new phone!
It looks like you have been trying lots of ROMs. From what I have read, you may want to try flashing one after flashing with Task29, which clears out extraneous junk that could be left over from prior installations on your phone. From my experience with EnergyROM, if you read the directions very carefully, do exactly what it says, you will have a well-performing phone. I am super happy with my Tilt 2. Good luck!