Last week i placed an order for an HTC HD7 - yes! yes! despite it having supposedly a sub-par quality display and all - but while visiting a local shop here in Pakistan, i was surprised to find none other than the HTC Mozart. The box was packed and he wouldn't open it for me to see the device till i put some cash on the counter and committed to purchase... So i was definitely a little bit hesitant. I searched around the entire market in Lahore and surprisingly no one else had any Windows Phone 7 devices in stock, and then my heart raced at the idea of getting a new device right then rather than wait 2 weeks for it to get delivered and thus i ended up buying the Mozart and canceled my order of the HD7...
It has been over 3 days now since i bought it and i'm completely in love with the system! (Might i add, the display on the Mozart is STUNNING!) Everything was smooth... from the first boot to initial setup to syncing with Zune and all. Even my outlook and facebook contacts played nice with each other and linked together perfectly for the most part. But of course i dreaded problems in the Operating System as i've been reading from other users... When i purchased the phone, i braced myself for application crashes, device hangups, unresponsiveness, connectivity issues, and more..
But surprisingly... I haven't had a single application crash yet! Well, if you don't count this one time when one of the HTC applications crashed while loading up but when started again, it let me in without any problem - i.e. i didn't have to restart. Actually, it's been close to 2 days now since i restarted the phone and in that time i've installed new games and applications and tested them out, responded to dozens of emails, connected with facebook, and a lot more... (the only time i restarted it the first time was when i had set up all accounts and everything else... kind of an old habit i guess carried over from Windows Mobile )
So i'm confused when i read about application crashes, and unresponsive UI, and what not. Sure there are times a game might take a tad bit longer than usual to load up (but honestly, even 'The Harvest' loads up pretty quick on the Mozart) or when you tap on an item in the menu, it doesn't register so you have to top it again... but overall, the RTM of Windows Phone 7 seems to be quite a stable build!
Before i decided to move to Windows Phone 7, i read dozens and dozens of reviews of the software and devices... the best one was by Paul Thurrott (h ttp://www.winsupersite.com/mobile/wp7.asp) who sums it up as follows (excerpt only): "Windows Phone 7 is a game changer, for both Microsoft and the broader smart phone industry. But for the short term, you need to know going in that Windows Phone is beautiful but flawed." The thing i really liked about his review is that he praises the system openly but also bashes it for every single problem and shortcoming in the system... If you haven't read it yet, do so now... I promise you that you won't find a better review than this.
I agree with him... There are flaws here and there and definitely some functionality that we would have liked to see, but give it a break guys... this is version 1.0! And from the looks of it, it looks like Microsoft is gearing up for an update that'll not only include Copy-Paste but other functions and fixes.. and unlike some systems, we won't have to wait a whole year for updates...
Sure i've had to tap more than once to open something, or my biggest problem was with it adding a '/' character when i hit the enter key while in landscape (this happened only once, i switched to portrait and went back to landscape and it was fixed)
The biggest problem that i have with my new Windows Phone 7 device? I hate that i can't change tracks using the provided handsfree... and from what i'm hearing, it's probably not supported in v1. Maybe whoever told me that is wrong and someone here know why i can't get it to work? Not much phone taking our the phone everytime i want to change the track while running on the treadmill... But other than that... i LOVE my phone and i LOOOOOOOOOOVE Windows Phone 7...
How about you?
Regards.
Salman Khalid.
congrats on the purchase. how much did it cost in local currency?
It cost me Rs. 60,000/- for the device... which is close to $700... I know it's expensive compared to what its being sold for at various sites like Expansys and Clove, but it was totally worth clearing out my wallet for...
So it wasn't service locked? The only WP7 device that I've heard of that isn't locked to a service provider is the dell venue pro
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So it wasn't service locked? The only WP7 device that I've heard of that isn't locked to a service provider is the dell venue pro
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Nope... it was unlocked. It's branded Orange and has their software on it too, but completely unlocked...
I'm wondering if i do a hard-reset, not that i need to, would it lock it by any chance?
Another day gone by and another day's great experience...
One other thing that i don't like that much is the battery... I mean, it gets me through most part of the day but i expected it to be better. Perhaps the fast drain is due to my high usage along with Bluetooth and Wifi continuously turned on and Exchange email hooked up and all...?
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Nope... it was unlocked. It's branded Orange and has their software on it too, but completely unlocked...
I'm wondering if i do a hard-reset, not that i need to, would it lock it by any chance?
Another day gone by and another day's great experience...
One other thing that i don't like that much is the battery... I mean, it gets me through most part of the day but i expected it to be better. Perhaps the fast drain is due to my high usage along with Bluetooth and Wifi continuously turned on and Exchange email hooked up and all...?
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Once your phone is unlocked, it's unlocked for good. You can do a hard-reset with no problems. Battery will get better day by day don't worry. It takes a full month for the battery to learn your charge/discharge habbits. You want to discharge your phone battery as much as you can before you put it for charge again to increase battery life.
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Once your phone is unlocked, it's unlocked for good. You can do a hard-reset with no problems. Battery will get better day by day don't worry. It takes a full month for the battery to learn your charge/discharge habbits. You want to discharge your phone battery as much as you can before you put it for charge again to increase battery life.
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Cool... thanks for that!
Love the device more... It's an attention grabber too!
powersquad said:
Once your phone is unlocked, it's unlocked for good. You can do a hard-reset with no problems. Battery will get better day by day don't worry. It takes a full month for the battery to learn your charge/discharge habbits. You want to discharge your phone battery as much as you can before you put it for charge again to increase battery life.
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Yeah buying them unlocked is always good if you have the money as its always better than being locked in a contract with a carrier.
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i just have to ask this question...
I have my MDA-Pro for about 2 months now and have installed two O2 roms (I'm at present running 1.13.82 WWE from 02).
but i'm just not convinced. i'd love to love love my Universal (I am a self confessed gadget person who just HAS to have the newest thing!). it's just not 'doing it' for me yet.
UMTS (i am with the german provider e-plus) is not spectacular, the phone is ok, but i get mixed opinions as to my calls with my bluetooth headset...(jabra BT800).
Also, the device just doesn't feel snappy. it has a fast processor and i have really not many programs installed (the basics: pocket informant, resco explorer, pocket mechanic, skype & ozVGA - although i don't always run in VGA).
for navigation i own a mio168 with TomTom 5. This device feels quicker than my Universal.
am i doing something wrong? can i do something right?
i appreciate your help and comments.
Hi effjay,
just for one subject of your message.
I use a BT800 as well and have the same result using it (not even UMTS, just GSM). My experience is that if the actual available memory is too small, the BT gets bad quality. A soft-reset and I am confirmed to be totally clear again.
Your question I would answer with : "not yet" meaning I am convinced that one or two updates (which still have to come) and I will be happy.
Ruud
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Are you happy with you Universal?
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NO :x :?
i don't know why i do it!
i purchased a HP6315 when they first came out (i was lucky to be holidaying in singapore at that time!), and i sold it again quite quickly as i was not happy with the performance.
i guess i should have learned from that lesson. i was (am?) really hoping that the universal will be the thing it should be, but it just isn't. it's unreliable.
things that worked fine yesterday (i.e. voice dialling with my jabra BT800) for whatever reason decided to not work today. i had to reset and then everything was fine. this is not acceptable and it's so annoying.
so i guess (after my moaning!) all i'm trying to say is that i hope that someone, somewhere can finally deliver a ROM that is stable, is economic with memory and that just does what it's supposed to!
stranger things have happened...haven't they?!
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Are you happy with you Universal?
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Not really.
I love the screen, I love the keyboard, but it's soooo slow. I would love to see a HTC Universe with PalmOS Or Windows Mobile 2003. My Old MDA III (Blue Angel) is MUCH faster. And it has only 400MHz (or 420?)
Am I happy?.
no at all.
i hate this machine specially with my Arabic langauge.
no way to buy again...
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I hate this device!
I spent a lot of money on this brick! It simply doesn't work! (T-Mobile Pro!)
1.) EVERY morning it has hang up! seems to happen on recieving a mail or sms.
2.) When you open it and put it like a Laptop on your desc you cannot tap on the screen without tipping it. It will fall on its back!
You have to use your second hand! (SIC!) Even then!
3.) T-Mobile branding is so annoying that I sometimes get angry just by looking at it! Startscreen (morning booting)
4.) I'm using a DELL X50v and a Compact, a XDA III and a QTec 8310.
Each of this devices is at least 2 times faster (Even with switched off Error Handling) Its unbelievable SLOW!
5.) Roaming does not work well. When I travel by train or car, my colleages can phone for hours without any troubles. My sh*** Pro does just hang up or disconnect every 5-10 minutes.
6.) Finaly - this device seems to be unhackable (there is still no SIM-Unlocker) This may make T-Mobile happy, but not me as a customer.
There are about 25 further problems. If anyone would like to see them, just tell me!
This device is NOT for professional use!
eegee
eegee said:
This device is NOT for professional use!
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I totally agree.
This is a nice, first generation beta childplay.
This is something the same when Frank Zappa published one album which was totally empty.
I bought mine purely for experimental purposes, I have no real need for a PDA! As such I think it's great.
I'm not convinced as a phone and will be getting a second, much smaller handset. I wouldn't like to rely on this device on a professional level. I find the battery life very poor and it once lost all my contacts. They came back after a soft reset, but I wasn't happy to have to wait over 5 mins to make a call.
Once the teething problems have been sorted out, I'm sure it will be a fantastic device. It has the potential to be great! I fear however, that by the time the problems are sorted out, there will be better, faster, smaller, more reliable devices available.
Sank5
nope!
its slow and seemingly buggy, i would like someone to do a backup on their phone that works properly then post that to see if it makes a difference... we could end up with a workable model after all..
o2 exec
I love my exec! I wouldn't change it for the world! Of course it is going to have teething troubles, but these are being sorted, both by software updates and the great people on this forum! The size issue is irrelevant, we all knew it was going to be big, and as people have already explained on this forum elsewhere the vga screen is the main reason it is a bit slow.
Just my two cents!
Fin
I absolutely loved it when I first got it. But I'm getting more and more frustrated with it.
1) The goddamn alarms just refuse to work half the time. I never know if it will work in the morning or if it won't wake me up. I spent 1,200 US and it doesn't even work as an alarm clock!
2) The device is really slow.
3) The ActiveSync in incredibly unreliable: sometimes it just stops syncing for no apparent reason at all. Everything worked the night before but it doesn't the very next morning. What the...?! Now, all of a sudden it starts asking me for an Exchange password. Why? I didn't do anything differently!
4) The POP mail account just disappears sometimes.
5) The phone is so difficult to answer - you press the button and nothing happens - the thing just freezes and I have to call people back.
6) Some programs just disappear from the Settings menu and reappear later after a few soft resets.
It's annoying that the thing is so frustrating - it's such a great concept! But the only way it work in an acceptable manner is if it doesn't have any programs installed - right after a hard reset, but if that's the case, there's no point in this "micro laptop" if you can't install programs.
VERY HAPPY.
Doesn't feel faster than my old JAM, but it's got 4 times the pixels to shift. A good memory manager and never switching it off allows it to remain zippy-ish though.
Wifi is rock solid, bluetooth works a treat, but I use that less at the moment, activesync sucks balls, but that's an MS problem, 3G/GPRS/AS/Wifi switching works flawlessy, screen rotation works great, WM5.0 isn't compatible with all my fave progs yet, but give it time, battery life is good, as long as I don't use a lot of wifi without a charger (suits me) , screen is great, keyboard is great...
Loving it so far.
Universal - great PDA, rubbish phone
there is no doubting that the Universal is a superb PDA - i don't really have so many problems using it for surfing either.
it's just mainly the phone part. it's not reliable.
so often i'm told that i was not available although my universal was turned on and i was definately within a very good signal range. upon rebooting the universal everything is fine.
due to browsing the forums here i had a very lean system with really only some basic stuff: pocketInformat, resco explorer, magic button & ozVGA
i was running the O2 ROM (corporate mode) - although i have just updated to the new T-Mobile German ROM...
i hope that it addresses some of my phone reliability issues.
i'll keep you all posted
Besides the Activesync which at times decides to go on vacation, I think this device rocks.
Everyone knew it was big so that doesn't really count doesn't it?
Anyone got the s620 on BT Broadband Anywhere?
Any good?
Anychance of the Cabs for BT Talk lol?
Installation files are here: http://btsupport.custhelp.com/cgi-b...05&p_cv=2.1805&p_cats=1804,1805&p_faqid=10901
Discussion about how crap it is here:
http://beta.bt.com/bta/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3464&start=60&tstart=0
indiekiduk said:
Installation files are here: http://btsupport.custhelp.com/cgi-b...05&p_cv=2.1805&p_cats=1804,1805&p_faqid=10901
Discussion about how crap it is here:
http://beta.bt.com/bta/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3464&start=60&tstart=0
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Nothing good to say as a BT user, have reset phone so as to get away from there lame programming.
Lol yeh I had read all these already, usually because my HomeHub fails me on a daily basis (Misses his Netgear )
Hi,
I got my BT Total broadband package last week, personally I can’t say a bad word about it, in fact very impressed so far.
Granted the HTC s620 is the first phone of its kind I have ever had so I can’t compare but I love the little device. Good screen, good camera, clear calls, good reception, no problems setting up email, thumbs up all round. The only issue I had was with Active Sync but the details of that are in another thread.
I haven’t hammered the home hub yet but again so far it’s being kicking out a good strong signal since I set it up.
Gumshoe said:
Hi,
I got my BT Total broadband package last week, personally I can’t say a bad word about it, in fact very impressed so far.
Granted the HTC s620 is the first phone of its kind I have ever had so I can’t compare but I love the little device. Good screen, good camera, clear calls, good reception, no problems setting up email, thumbs up all round. The only issue I had was with Active Sync but the details of that are in another thread.
I haven’t hammered the home hub yet but again so far it’s being kicking out a good strong signal since I set it up.
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How long does your battery last???
Obviously it depends on what your doing but on standby it’s lasting about 5 days, with average use, (paying games, web browsing) I’d say 1-2 days. However this is with the standard battery. It comes with an extended battery in the box which I haven’t used yet, but I guess it will add about 25-40% extra, that said I need to try it really.
The only bad is (which it does warm you about) when using the wireless connection to your hub (or any hot spot) it uses loads of power. I left my phone attached to it and the phone powered off in the middle of the night (waking me up) so it literally discharged the battery in a matter of hours just by being connected via wi-fi.
Gumshoe said:
Obviously it depends on what your doing but on standby it’s lasting about 5 days, with average use, (paying games, web browsing) I’d say 1-2 days. However this is with the standard battery. It comes with an extended battery in the box which I haven’t used yet, but I guess it will add about 25-40% extra, that said I need to try it really.
The only bad is (which it does warm you about) when using the wireless connection to your hub (or any hot spot) it uses loads of power. I left my phone attached to it and the phone powered off in the middle of the night (waking me up) so it literally discharged the battery in a matter of hours just by being connected via wi-fi.
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I think you have been lucky and got a BT s620 that works, i was getting 2 days on average use, now i get 4 days of average use without the BT software and i have more RAM available. The only thing i don't have is BBtalk anymore, small thing to loose to make the phone better "work"
On another note, I’ve being treating my new phone with extra special care since I’ve got it, however, I’ve just had a major (and very unexpected) nose bleed. And guess what? Yup blood all over my new shiny Smartphone. But it’s resisted well and cleaned up OK and thankfully functioning fine, so that is hopefully a good indicator that it will be resilient over time.
Gumshoe said:
On another note, I’ve being treating my new phone with extra special care since I’ve got it, however, I’ve just had a major (and very unexpected) nose bleed. And guess what? Yup blood all over my new shiny Smartphone. But it’s resisted well and cleaned up OK and thankfully functioning fine, so that is hopefully a good indicator that it will be resilient over time.
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You'd have thought a smartphone could have cleaned itself or poped out a little umbrella to protect itself.
indiekiduk said:
Installation files are here: http://btsupport.custhelp.com/cgi-b...05&p_cv=2.1805&p_cats=1804,1805&p_faqid=10901
Discussion about how crap it is here:
http://beta.bt.com/bta/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=3464&start=60&tstart=0
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You are better off sticking with version 2.35 as 2.37 is incredibly buggy. I have the installer for 2.35 if anyone needs it.
Battery life varies from 2 - 4 days depending on how often you use WiFi. If you use BBTalk a lot then be prepared to charge daily (not really an issue IMHO)
Ive had mine a few weeks now and I havnt had much problems with it whatso ever... then again I havnt had any problems with any of my BT products (homehub, vision, mobile etc...) it doesnt mean that it doesnt happen though as I have heard other people complian about some of their services.
Battery life doesnt seem bad whatsoever, as long as you dont leave it connected to wifi like I did once as that just drains the battery in a matter of hours.
Just come back off of a holiday where I used it to play games (guitar hero III rocks), watch my Family Guy videos using Coreplayer, take pictures and record videos of the kids and even use it as a phone once in a while and the battery lasted me just fine all I did was stick it on charge when I went to bed.
So I personally rate this phone, Ive even stopped using my old HP PPC which I used to take on long trips.
Ive noticed a lot of people also mentioning how much RAM the bt software uses, but I find that if im using a different homescreen other than the BT specific ones my available RAM is a whole lot better and I still have access to the bt software without having to uninstall the bt software.
bt broadband talk
probably a stupid question but..
is there any way to have bt broadband talk installed without having the other bt stuff?
and if so has anyone got the installer?
I get about 4-5 days out of mine before charging but that is on the extended battery the phone was crap to start with but i have unistalled the BT crap and that has made it usable but i would say it is not a very good phone and it is very quirky I much prefer my HTC universal which i will be going back to once my new screen arrives and is fitted.
Bt broadband anywahere
Hello fellow subscribers,
Is there anyone out there who can tweak the BT Broadband anywhere software so that it installs fully and works with wm6.1 and wm6.5?
Could those who have the know-how please respond? I am happy to get a PM if that's the best way to respond to my question.
Cheers.
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Hello fellow subscribers,
Is there anyone out there who can tweak the BT Broadband anywhere software so that it installs fully and works with wm6.1 and wm6.5?
Could those who have the know-how please respond? I am happy to get a PM if that's the best way to respond to my question.
Cheers.
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If you check the BT Anywhere Forum people have got the VOIP to work with WM6.1, not that i think worth it as it's a bismal.
The rest of the software is pointless especially the AV and the ROM won't even go into it
What you gain in a WM6.1 ROM far supases the loss of BT Software
I don't know where I am missing it, I have googled for this, gone onto the said forum, could not find any discussion there.
I will ry again just now. If you know precisely the link, could I have it please?
Thanks.
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I don't know where I am missing it, I have googled for this, gone onto the said forum, could not find any discussion there.
I will ry again just now. If you know precisely the link, could I have it please?
Thanks.
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I'll have a look been along time since used the website but just mem it
http://www.beta.bt.com/bta/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=4876&start=0&tstart=0
When I finally decided to upgrade my HTC Tilt to the new Tilt 2, never tought all the problems that this will bring.
The first unit was purchased on 2.14.10 at ATT local store. Two weeks later I decided to change the unit because of the many problems encounter.
It's been now two more weeks and this new phone is worst than the first one. I have to do a soft reset at least two times a day. Taskmanager is often gone from my Today screen or any other application.
I have installed a couple of software found around here, but decided to installed all of them to check if the were the problem. They were not.
Yesterday, I finally decided to do a hard reset and start from scratch without any installed software, other that the bloatware included from att.
The problems persist. The phone keeps stalling/freezing over any application. The emails are not being pulled from gmail, hotmail or yahoo (I have 6 configured emails).
What do you guys recommend for this. Doing another hard reset right now it's no easy task since I have to reconfigure all emails, lose SMS, etc.
I was very anxious to get my hands on this phone but it's been a nightmare from day one. My first Tilt was more stable by far.
Thanks for any suggestions, I just have to get this out of me.
It could be any number of things causing your problems.
I myself was very disappointed with my Rhodium when I got it. Was slow, glitchy.
After alot of reading and researching, I found it was most likely due to memory leakage. And that most devices come with a modified/branded ROM from the service provider.
I found that flashing a stock HTC/cooked ROM solved most of the issues. And using an app called 'cleanRAM' freed up alot of memory.
If you dont mind losing your warranty, then I suggest flashing a newer/better ROM. And using cleanRAM to free up any leaked memory instead of a soft reset each time
First things first, install SSK dynamic proxy CAB, Nopushinternet CAB, and AT&T tilt2 speed fix.
My first month of owning TP2 I felt very similar, having to reset every couple days. Now my phone only gets reset when I remove the battery or run out of battery (its been on for about 2 weeks now). CleanRAM is a great utility, but I suggest purchasing SSK Tools for its other great programs (autoclean, registry editor, task manager, program manager...basically this thing is great for tweaking your phone.
I would suggest reading around on the forums, looking at all the stickies, and searching for other users who have the same issues as you. This phone is a great phone, but like you have come to realize, it really needs to be tweaked for its full potential to be released.
Thanks for the suggestions!
ATT just confirm that my phone qualify for a replacement. Mine have a small square white sticker in the battery compartment. This seems to be the key of identify units with problems. I got the feeling that the next new unit is going to suffer the same problems.
I'm willing to work it out and tweak my tilt 2.
Only for a minute I consider to go for the BB bold 9700 but it's not even close.
Definately this forum was key when deciding to upgrade to my tilt 2.
Keep up the good work!
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Thanks for the suggestions!
ATT just confirm that my phone qualify for a replacement. Mine have a small square white sticker in the battery compartment. This seems to be the key of identify units with problems. I got the feeling that the next new unit is going to suffer the same problems.
I'm willing to work it out and tweak my tilt 2.
Only for a minute I consider to go for the BB bold 9700 but it's not even close.
Definately this forum was key when deciding to upgrade to my tilt 2.
Keep up the good work!
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All phones have the white sticker. It is how AT&T makes sure your phone has not been water damaged. It turns pink when exposed to water. You most likely aren't experiencing an issue that is specific to your phone.
All Tilt2s are horribly slow and people here just don't want to admit it. It is using the SAME processor as your original tilt, just only clocked at 528MHz instead of 400MHz but it has to drive a much higher resolution screen. Also, either WM6.5 or HTCs implementation of it on the Tilt2 is crap. It wastes memory like no other. I haven't used other WM6.5 phones so I don't know which it is.
I really like my Tilt2's appearance and absolutely love its keyboard but I hate the hardware in it. The crappyness of the OS (either due to 6.5 itself or HTCs implementation) does not help either.
I actually just found a REALLY good deal on a Telus Motorola Milestone on eBay, just $475 after Bing Cashback! I ordered it and can't wait to get it! It has a worse keyboard but its processor is a bit better and Android has surpassed WM.
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I actually just found a REALLY good deal on a Telus Motorola Milestone on eBay, just $475 after Bing Cashback! I ordered it and can't wait to get it! It has a worse keyboard but its processor is a bit better and Android has surpassed WM.
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So your bragging about a phone you do not even have in your possession yet ? can you hack it? how many custom roms are there for it ? how big is the forum dedicated this phone ? why is this the first time i have ever heard about it ? seriously please answer ALL my questions
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So your bragging about a phone you do not even have in your possession yet ? can you hack it? how many custom roms are there for it ? how big is the forum dedicated this phone ? why is this the first time i have ever heard about it ? seriously please answer ALL my questions
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because you know it by its other name, DROID.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Motorola-MILESTONE-US-phone-p_4331.html
That Motorola looks good!
Well, after your recomendations and some extra browsing around here, I decided to hard reset my Tilt 2 again and start from scratch. I have installed all the recommend software and only have one freeze up today while updating the Stocks.
Ram usage is at 55-60% most of the times.
I have also decided not to exchange my phone again, ATT was offering a refurbished unit and mine is new.
I'll stick with for now with the Win 6.5 Rom, maybe there's an update or patch coming up.
I have develop extra patience since using my Acer Aspire One with Intel Atom processor, this thing also get really slow at times...
I stumbled on to this site looking at phones on ebay. Great find. I see that some of the threads indicate that some end users have been able to replace the ROM and OS on there Tilt 2 WINMO phones with Android and other fixes to make this incredibly slow freezing phone a respectable Smart Phone. I have been a WINMO user for over eight years and have never owned a bigger slower piece since my original brick phone. Have had it replaced twice and now am going to switch to the new Android offering from At&t. But if I can make this better phone I am all about it. I know I sound like a total rook but some help would be appreciated.
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I stumbled on to this site looking at phones on ebay. Great find. I see that some of the threads indicate that some end users have been able to replace the ROM and OS on there Tilt 2 WINMO phones with Android and other fixes to make this incredibly slow freezing phone a respectable Smart Phone. I have been a WINMO user for over eight years and have never owned a bigger slower piece since my original brick phone. Have had it replaced twice and now am going to switch to the new Android offering from At&t. But if I can make this better phone I am all about it. I know I sound like a total rook but some help would be appreciated.
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sure you can replace WM with Android, but remember its not a fully operational OS because its a port, so i hope you can live with no sound, bluetooth and no camera....battery could be an issue but with the latest builds its been a HUGE improvement ever since the project started, and also to have a MicroSD card in hand to make Android work, but keep in mind the speeds are not going to be like Windows Mobile since it runs off of a MicroSD, but if you really up for it and you want to speed up your Tilt 2 if youre on WM, i recommend flashing a ROM just be sure to HARDSPL before you do
Android:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997
Flashing ROMs guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
good luck!
Cool so Android is out on the Tilt. I noticed what you have done with your tilt 2. Even though I am Computer savy I would like to do something somewhat easy for the first time out. Thanks for the help I will check out the info you gave me and hopefully get it done right.
I keep reading posts about what a POS the Tilt 2/TP2 is and I'm baffled because mine just doesn't seem to fit that description. Mind you, it's no speed demon, but it does all I ask of it with ease. And I've yet to have it freeze up requiring a physical reset. I hard reset it once, but that was because I installed some stuff that wasn't designed for it. I've modded the heck out of mine and gotten the eye candy (of which there's a ton to choose from) where I like it. Yesterday, I impressed some friends when I quickly got some restaurant info from Bing on my phone and then did a quick Skyfire search on some rock band to settle a bet. This is not my first WinMo device, but it certainly is the best so far.
brother I wish mine was all that. I got my first htc tilt2 in Jan this year. Did alot of research and did not find a whole lot to worry about. Got the phone and was happy for about the first month was up. The internet is slow, constantly freezes, when switching to keyboard the darn thing goes three ways from sunday and locks up. I have actually seen static like on my tv. So I went to the local At&T device support center and the dough head told me its windows you will have to learn to deal with it being a hunk of junk. On my second one signal sucks still slow as hell and locks up all the time. Have had to reset (hard) numerous times. Not gona get rid of them, however gona check out some of the mods and see how it goes. The HTC is also not my first WINMO originally started with the orginal Black Jack and dont look forward to the droid conversion. But Will check it out and Hopefully mod this one out with this site.
Hi all,
I've an iphone 4s and a one x and I've been trying to decide which to keep. Everything was looking rosy for the HOX until the latest of the 1.29 updates was received.
My battery life was pretty exceptional before, I was getting to the end of the day with often 50% or more battery. Since the update the phone will run fine for a while, maybe half a day and then suddenly android OS will start munching the battery. It accounts for 50% of battery use and you could feel it was really hot. All apps are closed and the majority of syncing has been disabled. Anyone know why the latest sw would trigger this problem?
Other problem I have is being discussed on another thread, dropping signal and then not picking back up unless i refresh the network.
It's a real shame as I'd really warmed to the phone, why haven't they tested everything properly before release as they've ruined a quality product. I've been back in the 4s for the last week and unless anyone has any ideas, an as new one x is up for sale.
I can confirm great standby time though, with just wifi connected, receiving emails and the odd look at the lovely screen it is on 4 days and 48 mins on a single charge with 34% battery remaining
could be a rough app.
I've uninstalled most the apps and really can't be bothered to reset the phone and set it up again.
I'll stick with the iPhone, HTC is going on ebay this evening. So close but no cigar
winrya said:
I've uninstalled most the apps and really can't be bothered to reset the phone and set it up again.
I'll stick with the iPhone, HTC is going on ebay this evening. So close but no cigar
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not to sound bad, but really stick to iOS and don't try again
i can always conclude its an impossibility for iUsers to make the switch
unless you are willing to get your hands dirty, Android will never replace your iOS
battery drain is clearly related to some app or widget going rogue, you can try to track it in manage apps and checking running apps and check your accounts settings if something is refreshing often
This is not a problem with HOX its a problem with your usage of HOX
until the next iPhone is released the One X rules it all
I don't mind a certain amount of tweaking to get something working and to be honest the one x was only a stop gap to keep me interested before the iPhone 5 is released so I would of ended back at IOS.
Its a shame as I love the feel of the one x and the size of the screen (although slightly too big to use safely one handed) is a masterpiece. I honestly would have kept it until October if it could find a signal properly and didn't have OS bugs. I believe the drain to be related to the latest update as it had been perfect on 1.28 and the first 1.29 and have changed nothing on it since the update and the drain started straight away. I mostly only use the popular apps and have uninstalled the majority and it hasn't solved the issue.
It's almost like the old windows thing of once it gets slow and buggy, the only fix it to restore back to factory settings.
Too bad i don't like iphone ( had 2) otherwise i would change it too.
Had Htc hero,Lg optimus 2x,Samsung galaxy s2 and now HOX.
Sold SGS2 thinking that HOX would be better but is not, at least for now.
Having problems with network too and it is annoying (call quality is ****)
Waiting for update from vodafone too see if gets better.
I came from an iphone, and its quite a shock coming to Android from it! Luckily i have the Transformer android tablet which prepeared me for it.
One thing i have noticed and what you dont want to do is that factory resets fix so many issues on Android. i always do one now after updates or wheneve its slow, yes its a pain in the backside (even cold booting fixes issues too before jumping in with the big reset)
If you're willing to spend a little extra time to work out the few little problems, the HOX will be a much better investment than the iPhone. I'd suggest you install some battery stats monitoring app to work out exactly what it is that's draining your phone.
Well I've done a reset on it. Luckily the music and vids etc have been kept which saves a little hassle. Just annoying getting it set back up the way I had it before.
I'm gonna give it one more go tomorrow and see how I get on. I've kind of lost the love I had for it now and see it as a bit of a pain but we'll see how I get on.
Why oh why is the speaker so quiet and on the back, can't be hard to match the 4s in this respect can it??
Any idea when this signal problem is going to be fixed?
Cheers,
Ryan