Hi all,
I've an iphone 4s and a one x and I've been trying to decide which to keep. Everything was looking rosy for the HOX until the latest of the 1.29 updates was received.
My battery life was pretty exceptional before, I was getting to the end of the day with often 50% or more battery. Since the update the phone will run fine for a while, maybe half a day and then suddenly android OS will start munching the battery. It accounts for 50% of battery use and you could feel it was really hot. All apps are closed and the majority of syncing has been disabled. Anyone know why the latest sw would trigger this problem?
Other problem I have is being discussed on another thread, dropping signal and then not picking back up unless i refresh the network.
It's a real shame as I'd really warmed to the phone, why haven't they tested everything properly before release as they've ruined a quality product. I've been back in the 4s for the last week and unless anyone has any ideas, an as new one x is up for sale.
I can confirm great standby time though, with just wifi connected, receiving emails and the odd look at the lovely screen it is on 4 days and 48 mins on a single charge with 34% battery remaining
could be a rough app.
I've uninstalled most the apps and really can't be bothered to reset the phone and set it up again.
I'll stick with the iPhone, HTC is going on ebay this evening. So close but no cigar
winrya said:
I've uninstalled most the apps and really can't be bothered to reset the phone and set it up again.
I'll stick with the iPhone, HTC is going on ebay this evening. So close but no cigar
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not to sound bad, but really stick to iOS and don't try again
i can always conclude its an impossibility for iUsers to make the switch
unless you are willing to get your hands dirty, Android will never replace your iOS
battery drain is clearly related to some app or widget going rogue, you can try to track it in manage apps and checking running apps and check your accounts settings if something is refreshing often
This is not a problem with HOX its a problem with your usage of HOX
until the next iPhone is released the One X rules it all
I don't mind a certain amount of tweaking to get something working and to be honest the one x was only a stop gap to keep me interested before the iPhone 5 is released so I would of ended back at IOS.
Its a shame as I love the feel of the one x and the size of the screen (although slightly too big to use safely one handed) is a masterpiece. I honestly would have kept it until October if it could find a signal properly and didn't have OS bugs. I believe the drain to be related to the latest update as it had been perfect on 1.28 and the first 1.29 and have changed nothing on it since the update and the drain started straight away. I mostly only use the popular apps and have uninstalled the majority and it hasn't solved the issue.
It's almost like the old windows thing of once it gets slow and buggy, the only fix it to restore back to factory settings.
Too bad i don't like iphone ( had 2) otherwise i would change it too.
Had Htc hero,Lg optimus 2x,Samsung galaxy s2 and now HOX.
Sold SGS2 thinking that HOX would be better but is not, at least for now.
Having problems with network too and it is annoying (call quality is ****)
Waiting for update from vodafone too see if gets better.
I came from an iphone, and its quite a shock coming to Android from it! Luckily i have the Transformer android tablet which prepeared me for it.
One thing i have noticed and what you dont want to do is that factory resets fix so many issues on Android. i always do one now after updates or wheneve its slow, yes its a pain in the backside (even cold booting fixes issues too before jumping in with the big reset)
If you're willing to spend a little extra time to work out the few little problems, the HOX will be a much better investment than the iPhone. I'd suggest you install some battery stats monitoring app to work out exactly what it is that's draining your phone.
Well I've done a reset on it. Luckily the music and vids etc have been kept which saves a little hassle. Just annoying getting it set back up the way I had it before.
I'm gonna give it one more go tomorrow and see how I get on. I've kind of lost the love I had for it now and see it as a bit of a pain but we'll see how I get on.
Why oh why is the speaker so quiet and on the back, can't be hard to match the 4s in this respect can it??
Any idea when this signal problem is going to be fixed?
Cheers,
Ryan
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Last week i placed an order for an HTC HD7 - yes! yes! despite it having supposedly a sub-par quality display and all - but while visiting a local shop here in Pakistan, i was surprised to find none other than the HTC Mozart. The box was packed and he wouldn't open it for me to see the device till i put some cash on the counter and committed to purchase... So i was definitely a little bit hesitant. I searched around the entire market in Lahore and surprisingly no one else had any Windows Phone 7 devices in stock, and then my heart raced at the idea of getting a new device right then rather than wait 2 weeks for it to get delivered and thus i ended up buying the Mozart and canceled my order of the HD7...
It has been over 3 days now since i bought it and i'm completely in love with the system! (Might i add, the display on the Mozart is STUNNING!) Everything was smooth... from the first boot to initial setup to syncing with Zune and all. Even my outlook and facebook contacts played nice with each other and linked together perfectly for the most part. But of course i dreaded problems in the Operating System as i've been reading from other users... When i purchased the phone, i braced myself for application crashes, device hangups, unresponsiveness, connectivity issues, and more..
But surprisingly... I haven't had a single application crash yet! Well, if you don't count this one time when one of the HTC applications crashed while loading up but when started again, it let me in without any problem - i.e. i didn't have to restart. Actually, it's been close to 2 days now since i restarted the phone and in that time i've installed new games and applications and tested them out, responded to dozens of emails, connected with facebook, and a lot more... (the only time i restarted it the first time was when i had set up all accounts and everything else... kind of an old habit i guess carried over from Windows Mobile )
So i'm confused when i read about application crashes, and unresponsive UI, and what not. Sure there are times a game might take a tad bit longer than usual to load up (but honestly, even 'The Harvest' loads up pretty quick on the Mozart) or when you tap on an item in the menu, it doesn't register so you have to top it again... but overall, the RTM of Windows Phone 7 seems to be quite a stable build!
Before i decided to move to Windows Phone 7, i read dozens and dozens of reviews of the software and devices... the best one was by Paul Thurrott (h ttp://www.winsupersite.com/mobile/wp7.asp) who sums it up as follows (excerpt only): "Windows Phone 7 is a game changer, for both Microsoft and the broader smart phone industry. But for the short term, you need to know going in that Windows Phone is beautiful but flawed." The thing i really liked about his review is that he praises the system openly but also bashes it for every single problem and shortcoming in the system... If you haven't read it yet, do so now... I promise you that you won't find a better review than this.
I agree with him... There are flaws here and there and definitely some functionality that we would have liked to see, but give it a break guys... this is version 1.0! And from the looks of it, it looks like Microsoft is gearing up for an update that'll not only include Copy-Paste but other functions and fixes.. and unlike some systems, we won't have to wait a whole year for updates...
Sure i've had to tap more than once to open something, or my biggest problem was with it adding a '/' character when i hit the enter key while in landscape (this happened only once, i switched to portrait and went back to landscape and it was fixed)
The biggest problem that i have with my new Windows Phone 7 device? I hate that i can't change tracks using the provided handsfree... and from what i'm hearing, it's probably not supported in v1. Maybe whoever told me that is wrong and someone here know why i can't get it to work? Not much phone taking our the phone everytime i want to change the track while running on the treadmill... But other than that... i LOVE my phone and i LOOOOOOOOOOVE Windows Phone 7...
How about you?
Regards.
Salman Khalid.
congrats on the purchase. how much did it cost in local currency?
It cost me Rs. 60,000/- for the device... which is close to $700... I know it's expensive compared to what its being sold for at various sites like Expansys and Clove, but it was totally worth clearing out my wallet for...
So it wasn't service locked? The only WP7 device that I've heard of that isn't locked to a service provider is the dell venue pro
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So it wasn't service locked? The only WP7 device that I've heard of that isn't locked to a service provider is the dell venue pro
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Nope... it was unlocked. It's branded Orange and has their software on it too, but completely unlocked...
I'm wondering if i do a hard-reset, not that i need to, would it lock it by any chance?
Another day gone by and another day's great experience...
One other thing that i don't like that much is the battery... I mean, it gets me through most part of the day but i expected it to be better. Perhaps the fast drain is due to my high usage along with Bluetooth and Wifi continuously turned on and Exchange email hooked up and all...?
msalmank said:
Nope... it was unlocked. It's branded Orange and has their software on it too, but completely unlocked...
I'm wondering if i do a hard-reset, not that i need to, would it lock it by any chance?
Another day gone by and another day's great experience...
One other thing that i don't like that much is the battery... I mean, it gets me through most part of the day but i expected it to be better. Perhaps the fast drain is due to my high usage along with Bluetooth and Wifi continuously turned on and Exchange email hooked up and all...?
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Once your phone is unlocked, it's unlocked for good. You can do a hard-reset with no problems. Battery will get better day by day don't worry. It takes a full month for the battery to learn your charge/discharge habbits. You want to discharge your phone battery as much as you can before you put it for charge again to increase battery life.
powersquad said:
Once your phone is unlocked, it's unlocked for good. You can do a hard-reset with no problems. Battery will get better day by day don't worry. It takes a full month for the battery to learn your charge/discharge habbits. You want to discharge your phone battery as much as you can before you put it for charge again to increase battery life.
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Cool... thanks for that!
Love the device more... It's an attention grabber too!
powersquad said:
Once your phone is unlocked, it's unlocked for good. You can do a hard-reset with no problems. Battery will get better day by day don't worry. It takes a full month for the battery to learn your charge/discharge habbits. You want to discharge your phone battery as much as you can before you put it for charge again to increase battery life.
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Yeah buying them unlocked is always good if you have the money as its always better than being locked in a contract with a carrier.
Hope this works for others - I've read the other posts but didn't see this posted as a solution, if so, pardon the miss...
I've been using Android since Cupcake (and on the iPhone since the iPhone 3) and am very well versed in the Android "features" which are in general battery draining.
I've owned both the Nexus and the Nexus S.
After buying the GNX I turned it off, came straight home and charged to full before using it. The first thing I did after turning it on was to clear the cache, force close, and disable the Verizon bloatware, including news and weather.
I had all sync options / apps off, 2 Gmail accounts on, and I broke out in a cold sweat every time I turned the screen on, knowing it was going to kill my battery if I dare use the device for its intended purpose, social streaming, news feed reading, games, Netflix, etc.
Like most I was suffering from an abnormal wake time and "Android OS" was consistently the top battery drain in the Battery Panel within Settings.
700 bucks for a phone that I'm afraid to use (without a 50 foot extension cord nearby) doesn't make a whole lot of sense, given I can use all of the above listed features on my iPhone 4 without thinking twice about my battery.
I went back to the Verizon store where I purchased the phone, showed some screen grabs of the battery life I was getting, and asked for a new device, which was met with resistance - from my perspective it was pretty simple, either exchange the device or I'm gonna return it...
With the new phone I decided to try something different. I still shut it off after the purchase was complete, charged to full before using it, disabled the bloatware etc., but I decided to not accept the OS update.
After using the phone without accepting the update I noticed a marked improvement - the first item listed in the Battery Panel within Settings is either "Phone Idle" or "Screen", depending on usage, and "Android OS" is consistently the 4th item in the list, currently using 16% of my resources, with 14 hrs, 24 min of use and 64% remaining on my battery, and a very acceptable wake time.
I should also add that with both phones I had the "Don't keep activities" check box selected within Settings / Developer Options
Now the only real problem I have is the annoying pop up asking me to install the update with every active screen session, sometimes a few times within each session.
So for now, I'm going to hold off on accepting the update, hope I don't accidentally accept, and wait until I hear how well the next OS update is before accepting it.
Tldr: I wiped/reset the phone but didn't update to 4.0.2. Now Android OS does not keep the phone awake.
Easy way to save battery: Put the phone down everyonce in a while. I get a good 7-10hrs out of it everyday.
Sooooo you turned off multitasking, and denied an update. To all the new users I highly suggest you don't do this. Those are developer settings to test apps and killing multitasking is not gonna be beneficial.
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Oh one more thing... change the title... Your misleading people.
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Sooooo you turned off multitasking, and denied an update. To all the new users I highly suggest you don't do this. Those are developer settings to test apps and killing multitasking is not gonna be beneficial.
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Yep, that's all I did, I denied the update and there's a night and day difference between how this phone behaves on 4.0.1 vs. the one I had on 4.0.2
I remember the good ol' days, when folks would come to XDA to offer and receive help from each other...
Funny how people think everything was the fix. You got an entirely new device...don't you think just maybe it could had been that, not the update?
This just in setting my wallpaper to the beach boys fixed it for me
( actually I have never had a wake lock issue... not on 4.0.1 4.0.2 or 4.0.3)
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this thread is a waste, and ere i was gettin all hopeful! anyhoo, i heard paul got it fixed?
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Funny how people think everything was the fix. You got an entirely new device...don't you think just maybe it could had been that, not the update?
This just in setting my wallpaper to the beach boys fixed it for me
( actually I have never had a wake lock issue... not on 4.0.1 4.0.2 or 4.0.3)
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yeah... so much so that I'm not taking any updates until 4.0.3, and only after folks have had a chance to test it out and see how it performs.
Glad the beach boys fixed your issues, sure it wasn't your Justin Bieber ringtones?
This thread is misleading.
I have 4.0.1 and I have that high Android OS Keep awake time issue.
Again, that issue is not about battery life, but the keep awake of Android OS which is unusual.
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I just disabled google+ and vzw backup. Phone is doing far better on battery.
I also run a flat black bg, but i do the with everything.
ProTip - flash android 1.5 cupcake to your nexus for week long battery life.
I have been reading everyday since the day it came out... the same day I bought it.
Hope you all don't mind but I have quite a few questions/frustrations
1st, Battery life is killing me... cannot make it through a day, I have put my screen on auto which seems a lot dimmer than set to 40 or 60%. All I do is play some solitaire, check mail a lot, a little bit of net, maybe 30 minutes of calls (tops) a few txt msgs, with maybe 2 hours or slightly more of screen time.
External speaker is embarrassing... tried showing a video to a friend with an iphone and felt like flushing the damn phone after he did the same.
Data connectivity is still hit and miss... one minute I have 4 bars of 4G and the next I have none.
I am on (details in sig) 4.0.4 (Craig Gomez version) with the newest radios. The device is a serious work tool for me so I really don't have the time to try different ROMS or kernels all the time... I need it always ready for calls, emails and occasional RDP or Logmein sessions .
For those of you have actually tried many/experienced in the world of various ROMs & kernels... do you have a suggestion of what to do with my setup?
Between the battery and data connectivity I feel the phone is close to crap... my friends with Razors have none of these problems and I feel like I am ready to snap.
BTW... if you could be even more kind... if you have a suggestion on what to run, could you suggest a brief set of instructions... i.e. nandriod, full wipe, install this first that second...
Thanks for any and all help... I sure would like to come up with or remember a reason why I have this and not a razor max.
Do you have the latest radios? That will make a difference. I do know the speaker is weak. There's not much to do but for a volume hack, some roms have it enabled.
Id ask for a replacement phone if battery is that bad and you can't get a decent signal anywhere but other phones can. Sounds like a defective phone.
I've been using Android Revolution for about 2 weeks, and as for today, I don't think there's anything as good as it. It's just like stock, just a little bit faster. I have great battery life, 5 to 6 Hours of screen on time, AutoBrightness, sync on, wifi always on, etc, it's pretty good, you should give it a try.
I've also used AOKP (with FrancoKernel and with stock kernel), and even tho I liked all extra features, in my experience, with screen off, it drains battery a looot faster that stock/ARHD.
I used an app called equalizer to fix the speaker
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I have been reading everyday since the day it came out... the same day I bought it.
Hope you all don't mind but I have quite a few questions/frustrations
1st, Battery life is killing me... cannot make it through a day, I have put my screen on auto which seems a lot dimmer than set to 40 or 60%. All I do is play some solitaire, check mail a lot, a little bit of net, maybe 30 minutes of calls (tops) a few txt msgs, with maybe 2 hours or slightly more of screen time.
External speaker is embarrassing... tried showing a video to a friend with an iphone and felt like flushing the damn phone after he did the same.
Data connectivity is still hit and miss... one minute I have 4 bars of 4G and the next I have none.
I am on (details in sig) 4.0.4 (Craig Gomez version) with the newest radios. The device is a serious work tool for me so I really don't have the time to try different ROMS or kernels all the time... I need it always ready for calls, emails and occasional RDP or Logmein sessions .
For those of you have actually tried many/experienced in the world of various ROMs & kernels... do you have a suggestion of what to do with my setup?
Between the battery and data connectivity I feel the phone is close to crap... my friends with Razors have none of these problems and I feel like I am ready to snap.
BTW... if you could be even more kind... if you have a suggestion on what to run, could you suggest a brief set of instructions... i.e. nandriod, full wipe, install this first that second...
Thanks for any and all help... I sure would like to come up with or remember a reason why I have this and not a razor max.
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Autobrightness will kill your battery more than a static 40 or 60%.
2 hours of screen on time seems normal for the Verizon Nexus.
Try the volume + app for your speaker problems.
There are some kernels that have sound boosts built in.
Signal drops means you should exchange the phone. Use the insurance.
Honestly if you hate the phone as much as it sounds, just get a different phone.
joshnichols189 said:
Autobrightness will kill your battery more than a static 40 or 60%.
2 hours of screen on time seems normal for the Verizon Nexus.
Try the volume + app for your speaker problems.
There are some kernels that have sound boosts built in.
Signal drops means you should exchange the phone. Use the insurance.
Honestly if you hate the phone as much as it sounds, just get a different phone.
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Perfect response.
Don't get me wrong... I in no way "hate" phone, if I did I would have gotten rid of it.
I'm frustrated not stupid.
I am amazed that Verizon hasn't done something about it... most of the buyers of this phone are not IT savvy rooters... my phone works a lot better than stock, I cannot imagine how frustrated someone on 4.0.2 would be.
Anyway... I am going to take it back to stock and return it... guess I will try it (the new one) out stock but I know I will want it rooted. Guess I'll try some of the suggested software\ROMS.
I wonder what a stock one is coming with these days?
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Don't get me wrong... I in no way "hate" phone, if I did I would have gotten rid of it.
I'm frustrated not stupid.
I am amazed that Verizon hasn't done something about it... most of the buyers of this phone are not IT savvy rooters... my phone works a lot better than stock, I cannot imagine how frustrated someone on 4.0.2 would be.
Anyway... I am going to take it back to stock and return it... guess I will try it (the new one) out stock but I know I will want it rooted. Guess I'll try some of the suggested software\ROMS.
I wonder what a stock one is coming with these days?
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I never called you stupid.
Stock phones will 99% come with 4.0.2 but like I said, they don't all have the problems you have.. except low speaker volume.
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I never called you stupid.
Stock phones will 99% come with 4.0.2 but like I said, they don't all have the problems you have.. except low speaker volume.
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Anyone that would keep a phone they hate would have to be stupid
Well... things just changed again.
Just talked with Verizon and he asked if I installed the update pushed out on the 25th? I told him I will give it a shot and get back to them.
Anyone got instructions for reverting back to stock?
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Anyone that would keep a phone they hate would have to be stupid
Well... things just changed again.
Just talked with Verizon and he asked if I installed the update pushed out on the 25th? I told him I will give it a shot and get back to them.
Anyone got instructions for reverting back to stock?
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Check the stickies in the dev forum
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Should I update from where im at? I haven't updated my phone since I took it out of the box. All I did was root to install wanam expose, xposed installer and region lock away. What do you guys recommend? What's the easier way to update without installing a custom recovery.
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Yes and use my guide here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54787998
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Should I update from where im at? I haven't updated my phone since I took it out of the box. All I did was root to install wanam expose, xposed installer and region lock away. What do you guys recommend? What's the easier way to update without installing a custom recovery.
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No i wouldnt stay on jellybean too many problems with kitkat.
The only "problem" i can come up right away is apps using extSDcard issue... which is already solved if root. What other problems are there?
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Yes and use my guide here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54787998
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Thanks i updated to NF9 using your method, i then rerooted my phone. Lot faster than before. Thank you very much
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Sure there are other problems, in my case I can't get the battery usage under control. I'm rooted and freeze whole bunch of stuff, more so than under Jelly Bean and it's still not what it used to be. I even did full factory reset, which is a huge pain all by itself (car BT pairing took 3 days alone, it wouldn't auto connect, lost few games progress despite restoring from backup, needed to restore AC3 again etc.) and still battery usage is much higher now than before. I really see no improvement whatsoever, oh wait I see that new volte message sometimes popping up, big deal, I can make phone calls just the same as before . Did I mention I lost region unlock? Not sure about SIM lock, I know it got unlocked with region, but now, after update probably locked again. To be fair Effortless method worked great, but for me it was all downhill afterwords and I'm not sure I would upgrade knowing what I know now. Maybe my experience is isolated and due to something particular I did or not do, but the old saying "don't fix it if it ain't broken" rings in my ear over and over again.
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Sure there are other problems, in my case I can't get the battery usage under control. I'm rooted and freeze whole bunch of stuff, more so than under Jelly Bean and it's still not what it used to be. I even did full factory reset, which is a huge pain all by itself (car BT pairing took 3 days alone, it wouldn't auto connect, lost few games progress despite restoring from backup, needed to restore AC3 again etc.) and still battery usage is much higher now than before. I really see no improvement whatsoever, oh wait I see that new volte message sometimes popping up, big deal, I can make phone calls just the same as before . Did I mention I lost region unlock? Not sure about SIM lock, I know it got unlocked with region, but now, after update probably locked again. To be fair Effortless method worked great, but for me it was all downhill afterwords and I'm not sure I would upgrade knowing what I know now. Maybe my experience is isolated and due to something particular I did or not do, but the old saying "don't fix it if it ain't broken" rings in my ear over and over again.
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If your having issues you might want to try reflash. I didn't loose any apps or games, my car bt connected the same, remember that now your phone uses volte which could be a cause for more battery drain so why don't you try turn it off after reflashing. My only complaint is that while your on a voltle call you can conference as many calls you want but don't have the option to drop a specific line so only option is to end all call. I just went to volte settings and changed it to do not use volte and now i got back my conference call button back when on multiple calls.
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If your having issues you might want to try reflash. I didn't loose any apps or games, my car bt connected the same, remember that now your phone uses volte which could be a cause for more battery drain so why don't you try turn it off after reflashing. My only complaint is that while your on a voltle call you can conference as many calls you want but don't have the option to drop a specific line so only option is to end all call. I just went to volte settings and changed it to do not use volte and now i got back my conference call button back when on multiple calls.
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Thanks for ideas, but It's not volte, when home i"m always on wifi and for example just last night lost 20% charge overnight, wakelock shows nothing, the only time I had anything like that on JB was when I switched off wifi power save in secret menu long time ago when troubleshooting wifi calling. BT first wouldn't connect at all, then connected, but wouldn't reconnect again next day, finally on third day it held. I think I read somebody was claiming SD card fix breaks BT, or something like that, but now finally seems to be working. I'll probably freeze/disable everything at some point and then start enabling few apps at the time, to see when it starts blowing battery again, but this will take forever.. Update itself went fine, I even verified firmware's checksums, like first time ever and I have no reboots, no crashes, no freezing. Actually let me check that stupid wifi save mode, maybe it turned itself off.
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Sure there are other problems, in my case I can't get the battery usage under control. I'm rooted and freeze whole bunch of stuff, more so than under Jelly Bean and it's still not what it used to be. I even did full factory reset, which is a huge pain all by itself (car BT pairing took 3 days alone, it wouldn't auto connect, lost few games progress despite restoring from backup, needed to restore AC3 again etc.) and still battery usage is much higher now than before. I really see no improvement whatsoever, oh wait I see that new volte message sometimes popping up, big deal, I can make phone calls just the same as before . Did I mention I lost region unlock? Not sure about SIM lock, I know it got unlocked with region, but now, after update probably locked again. To be fair Effortless method worked great, but for me it was all downhill afterwords and I'm not sure I would upgrade knowing what I know now. Maybe my experience is isolated and due to something particular I did or not do, but the old saying "don't fix it if it ain't broken" rings in my ear over and over again.
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Ok first of all the reason why I'm responding is purely to try and help, and I know some people can be sensitive to criticism so I just wanted to clarify that my intentions are not to flame you. With that being said I know that I don't "know" so I'm only basing this from your post, but you seem to be extremely negative about the entire process in general. I also understand that it may be overwhelming for people who aren't technically "in to" rooting or even customizing their phones, which is why I often consider rooting to be a double edged sword for a lot of people.
This is why basically imo it's a complete waste for someone to "pay" someone else to root or customize their phone for them (I'm definitely not implying that's what you did or anything just to clarify), because it's not in the least bit a one time thing where once it's done it'll just be smooth sailing from there on out. It takes a huge amount of upkeep and dedication to get and enjoy the most out of what rooting and customizing has to offer, and for some people the trade off just isn't worth the overall amount of work which involved with it. It always just depends on the person, how they use and how much they use their phones, the amount of work they are willing to put into it, and what exactly they expect to get out of it, to determine if it's even worth the process to begin with.
As far as what you were talking about with wiping the phone, having to set everything up again, and losing some of your game data, it kinda sounds like that was along the lines of a traumatic experience for you especially when compared to others who might actually go through that same process 10 or more times a day and really enjoy it.
Also as far as your battery life goes there's so many different variables that can determine whether you'll have killer battery life or struggle to make it through the day kinda battery life, but the beauty of root and the ability to customize is that you never have to just settle for one or the other. One thing I'd strongly suggest is to look into different Kernels depending on which rom you're on, because it's amazing how much difference the right kernel for your device alone can make with battery. Every single device is different in it's own tolerances and even if you pull 2 of the same phones that are back to back off of the assembly line, one might work better with a specific kernel/rom combination than another, one could have better stock battery life than the other, and so on. So I always try to take others experiences with certain Kernels or Roms kind of lightly, because that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to have the same results with my specific device.
Another to keep in mind is that whenever you flash a new rom, kernel, or even flash a new ota, it'll always take at least 3 or 4 days before the kernel will fully settle in and start to show the "true" battery life and performance that you can expect. So if you flash a new rom or kernel and then decide after just one day that the battery life sucks or that the performance isn't what you were expecting and then flash something else, you literally have no idea how that rom or kernel would've truly performed because it didn't even have enough time to settle in. For example I flashed a kernel one time and for the first 3 days the battery life was 10 times worse than what I was getting, and then half way through the 3rd day I started to notice it getting better and better until it wound up literally being the best battery life I had ever had at that point. So if I would've said screw it and automatically decided it was going to be terrible based on what it did at first, I would've screwed myself out of the best battery life I'd ever had up until then. It just takes a lot of patients and I'm not saying this is what you did at all, but I think a lot of people simply don't wait long enough to actually see the "true results" before deciding something is good or bad.
Anyway I waited awhile before doing the update as well because my phone was running almost exactly how I liked it, and when I finally did do the update I wasn't getting the same results at first which can always be discouraging. I'm glad now that I did do the update though because it took some tinkering with but now it's running even better than it was before. Good luck with your phone though and I guess my point is that you don't have to settle for anything if you don't want to, that's the beauty of being able to do all of this on the first place!
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Thanks for the advice, but to clarify things: there are many posts on this forums and T-mobile forum complaining about poor battery life after updating to KK, so I'm not alone. It's been close to 2 months since I updated and I still can't get my phone to run as efficiently as it was, so I'm frustrated since nothing shows up in wakelock or any other program I tried. One time I can loose 20% overnight, other time 2%, never had anything like that before. I have no idea what are you talking about people paying for rooting their phone, so I just leave it at that. I have few games that have many levels, where you can't go to next level before finishing the lower one, I backed up all programs and data with Titanium and some games didn't restore properly, even with multiple tries leaving me at level one, no big deal since I'm not hardcore gamer, but things like that do happen. As far as updates in general go, I had a lot of bad experiences, once I even lost my desktop computer after updating manufacturer released faulty BIOS and had to buy video card to fix it, even recent Apple's ios 8.01 update was faulty and they had to release update to update, next day, so things not always go as planned. I do not see any visible benefits in KK, all I see is broken SD card access, gone per apps permission settings, patched up root exploit (thank you towelroot for new one, which is already patched in the latest release BTW) and in my case poor battery life, so I'm not impressed and not quiet sure it was worth for me to update. I felt OP should have been warned, that there are some people having some issues after the update. Maybe because I like my Note3 a lot and want it to be perfect, this battery issue annoys me more than it should, but it seems the harder I try, the worst it gets.
I have had the G3 about 5 days now, after I had gotten my dream device, the Xperia Z3, and had several problems and bugs with it, sadly and reluctantly exchanged it for this one, because the S6 was on back-order, and Verizon would not let me wait to exchange the phone, as it would be about a month wait now...
My immediate issue is the LAG! I have had to uninstall 2 very beloved apps, because the G3 would sit on the loading screen forever and never do anything. I tried re-installing 3 times, no luck. This is my biggest issue so far.
Also, I am unhappy with the battery life. I have done most of the battery-saver settings, but because of bad eyesight I need the brightness turned up. I do watch videos but not too often, I don't really play games, I mostly just text, maybe make one call a day, and check FB for about half an hour a day. I have the screen off any other time, and my wifi is on so I can browse without using data. Which setting uses LESS battery, the 4G or the WiFi?
I am having another BIG frustration, trying to talk sense into my mother, who just got her first smartphone, the S4. She cannot remember the easiest tips and I show her over and over how to set the brightness, how to turn data on and off (she has no other internet, so she NEEDS this to keep up on FB and sell her trinkets online, but because she can't immediately gain the knowledge of how to set everything exactly how she wants, she's telling me she wants to switch BACK to her ancient DINOSAUR of a POS keyboard phone with NO DATA use on it, JUST calling and texting! She was literally paying $50 a month MORE for her POS 10-year-old phone that is literally going to crap out at any minute, and if she switches back, she can't use the Edge Plan from Verizon, so she will still be paying MORE to use a crap paperweight junk phone and have NO internet! She is driving me CRAZY!! Anyone know ANY way I can convince her to keep the S4???
Thanks!
Regarding the first part of your post. It would be useful if you let us know which device you got and which version of Android it is running.
I'm on the latest lollipop and i don't experience your problems.
Regarding battery life i do get full day with heavy usage and 2 full days with light use.
How many hours of screen in do you get?
For your mother. Just set the device once she will not change it. Clean the launcher and just keep the apps she use.
Brgds
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