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This thing is reallllyyy pissing me off. Before people say "are you happy now, see ya later, or the iPhone sucks"
Their are serious issues with the Android OS and the Battery is the main problem with the EVO.
Now if someone can give me a fix for this I would greatly appreciate it and continue to love using my phone again but untill then Every little thing is going wrong with this phone to make me want to switch.
Here it is:
I am NOT rooted! I have 4G turned off, WIFI, bluetooth, and GPS turned off, I also have the screen brightness set to automatic. I have no widgets on the home screen that require an internet connection, and have all syncing turned off, on everything! that includes contacts, facebook, mail (stock and gmail) weather, and news.
I even have "enable always-on mobile data" turned off.
I am currently using Launcher Pro, but was using ADW launcher before that and then stock 2.1 android (no sense turned on, on all of them)
My battery barely makes it 8 hours without being on low.
under the battery category, for the past week or so plus, I havent really checked into that, So i can't tell you when it started, as been on 100%
So my uptime and my awake time have been the same.
I have turned the phone on and off 5 times already, used a task killer, turned on airplane mode, and no dice.
The only definite fix, is going one by one and deleting an app, turning the phone on and off, and looking at battery usage, I have easily 25 apps and that will take forever. Or doing a hard reset, something I do not want to waste my time doing again, reconfiguring my phone, and reinstalling a bunch of apps and settings.
An example of todays usage, I am not exagerating any of this.
I unplugged it at 10:30 AM, 25 total text messages (going in an out) no phone calls, 4G was on and connected for a total of 2 Minutes.
Now I know if you leave 4G on and you are not connected it kills the battery, but I had it off, turned it on for 2 Minutes because I was in chicago, and wanted to see how fast it was ran 3 speed tests, and turned it off.
I refreshed my email 4 times, That means opening up the mail app, clicking menu and refresh, same thing with facebook, refreshed my news feed 5 times. and at 6:30
I have 2 out of the 5 bars left.
That is absolutely rediculous, I am past my 30 day return time.
An OS that allows certain apps to keep the phone on and make the battery life horrible is rediculous.
This is a list of all apps I have both from the market and off:
advanced task killer
AK notepad
akari
astro
better cut
betterkeyboard
dictionary.com (offical App)
facebook
find my phone
Flikie wallpaper
fox news
handcent sms
keeper
leet speak
live scores
memory trainer
news and weather (from nexus one, but refreshing is on manual)
pass phrase
pda net
picsay pro
qik
ringroid
shazam
speedtest
status notes
texas hold em
tip calculator
tv listings
urban dictionary
zedge
I have notice one thing tho with launcherpro, for some reason when I go into an app or hold down the home button to bring up the multitasking 6 app menu, and then click home after, the setting to come up that asks which home launcher I want
HTC sense or Launcherpro
comes up all the time, like 10 times a day, and I always click choose this action for default and click launcher pro and sure enough after opening a couple apps, and clicking home the box will come up, may be that has something to do with the battery I dont know tho.
If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate, and you would save an evo from being thrown into a wall.
thanks.
Try out CM6 and I guarantee you'll never even think about an iphone again.
Like he said above.. Root and get cm6.. I can go 2 days easy regular use..
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the iphone sucks
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
The key is in data if your not using mobile data then use the widget to turn it off til you need it. Or root and flash a custom rom. They have better battery life hands down
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Read the insane battery life thread.
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mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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Yeah it just can't make calls
the iphone sucks
mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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Because i don't have to wrap my phone in Rubber or Duct Tape it for it to make a phone call or maintain a data connection. You were just asking to get flamed by posting this. If you wan't help from people around here, bashing Android and saying "IOS 4 has no problems!!!" isn't going to be your best option.
P.S. Stock Android 2.1 or even Sense UI crushes IOS 4. Maybe it's not the phone....maybe it's the user.
You didn't specifically say that you had Google talk signed out. Turn off auto sign in on that app and it makes a huge difference.
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I didn't see anyone mention this, not that it's going to be your issue but it could be something to check.
I recall a friend having a severe battery issue and it turned out the stock calendar program was preventing his phone from hibernating and thus being on constantly.
Just something to try, I hope you find out what's up soon. Also not sure if you have a spare battery, but sometimes you can get a dud and the only way to test that is try another battery.
Seriously, if you think iOS4 is better than Android then that's the phone you need. You pretty much just wasted everyone's time with all that.
While I would agree that if you want to get dramatically improved battery life, your best bet is to root it and flash a custom rom, Even when my phone was stock it got much better battery life than yours seems to be getting. I actually ran my phone for for weeks stock, not rooted, so I would have a good baseline of experience when I did start to customize it.
Typically, my phone would last about 10-14 hours before needing to be recharged. That would be with slightly more usage than you indicate, and with data and gps always on, but 4g off, as I don't live in a 4g area.
Now that I am rooted, and am running Fresh 1.0.1 and the fps fix kernel, and a battery saver setcpu profile, the same use gives me more than 50% charge left after running 14-16 hours off the charger.
Personally, it sounds to me like you might have a defective battery. As one of the previous posters said, I would recommend you try the instructions in one of the battery life threads here and if that didn't work, I would take it to the Sprint repair center.
mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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iphone isn't a terrible phone, it just doesn't compare to an EVO.
anything iphone can do, the evo can do - and do it better.
no need to be on wi-fi for a video chat!
Why would you buy a 4.3 inch screen....4g.... and expect awesome battery? Yes it could be better but come-on....if you didn't expect it to have bad battery life....?????????? That's all I can say I just don't understand...android phones normally have bad battery life on top of all that....
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I'm having the same issues as you except that I am rooted. Have an underclocked phone and Baked Snack 9.7
I'm really beginning to think that the people that claim to get 14+ hours of battery life is just a bunch of bs. I do exactly what they do and i get no where near the 18 hours some users claim to get. And for the people bashing the iphone, its not a bad phone, and almost everyone that invests $200 in a phone get a case anyway. And no i'm not bashing the Evo either. Battery life just sucks on it.
mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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No offense, but it seems like you kind of made up your mind already on what you want to do. Iphone 4 is a good phone, but honestly, it gets boring after about a week, if that. Android is so much fun. You don't have to root your phone for it to work properly. Do some research into why batteries drain really fast with this phone. You do realize how big the screen is right? lol. I''l give you ups and downs of both phones.
Iphone 4-
Good
Nice looking phone, OS is smooth, apps.
Bad
Got to watch where you hold it, AT&T (they don't have unlimited data plan), not very much to do with Iphone
Evo
Good
Big screen, Sprint, camera, don't have to be on wi-fi for video calling, fully customizable, even more so if you root it. There are more but tired of typing!
Bad
Battery
Thats just my opinion though. I would have more bad things to say about it if not for Cyanogen. Its like an overgrown Nexus now! Sorry for the long post. lol. If you have any questions on how to root or anything feel free to send me a message or whatever.
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under the battery category, for the past week or so plus, I havent really checked into that, So i can't tell you when it started, as been on 100%
So my uptime and my awake time have been the same.
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dial *#*#4636#*#*
battery history
partial wake usage
tell me what comes up 1st and 2nd.
Hi all
I'm so sick of switching ROMs on my EVO 4G!! My battery life seems to suck no matter which ROM I try. I've tested my battery; it's fine. What I'd like is to be able to use Skype (just chatting; rarely use voice on Skype) with my EVO and get more than 3 hours battery life. I don't use Skype constantly; just want to be able to use the phone for more than a few hours before it becomes a paperweight!
Right now, pretty much as soon as I log into Skype on the EVO the batt drops to 80% and continues to drop every 30 min or so. Forget web browsing or texting; that kills it so fast it's dead in 2 hours.
I'm running Deodexed 4.24.651.1 and have tried Cyanomod, Baked Snack, Stock rooted and they all suck for battery life with Skype.
Maybe I need a different kernel?
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Hi all
I'm so sick of switching ROMs on my EVO 4G!! My battery life seems to suck no matter which ROM I try. I've tested my battery; it's fine. What I'd like is to be able to use Skype (just chatting; rarely use voice on Skype) with my EVO and get more than 3 hours battery life. I don't use Skype constantly; just want to be able to use the phone for more than a few hours before it becomes a paperweight!
Right now, pretty much as soon as I log into Skype on the EVO the batt drops to 80% and continues to drop every 30 min or so. Forget web browsing or texting; that kills it so fast it's dead in 2 hours.
I'm running Deodexed 4.24.651.1 and have tried Cyanomod, Baked Snack, Stock rooted and they all suck for battery life with Skype.
Maybe I need a different kernel?
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Maybe because it's Saturday. I'm surprised they haven't jumped on you for posting this in this section. None of the roms that are gingerbread will have the life you had on 2.2 unless the code gets released and the guys that make kernels can make new ones. Battery life on the roms vary but if it means alot you should try Calkulin's rom. He has an undervolting script built in that may work for you. If you flash a kernel from the 2.2 roms you might get better battery life but something will break in the rom, ie camera.
Awesome development work dude!!!!!! Cant wait to try it out. Where's the download link??
My first idea would be posting in the correct section, or, it sucks that Skype and battery life blow on this rom you developed.
Since that is over, are you wiping properly with a formatall.zip? Are you making sure to flash the correct kernels with the corresponding rom? Are you restoring any data with titanium backup?
Move this to the q&a and you will get the information you are looking for.
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I thought you had to have 10 posts before you could post in the dev section?
simple answer - skype though awesome also sucks.
for example just think about a laptop. my 7 hr macbook pro dies in under 2 hrs when i'm video or phone chatting on skype... shouldn't the same be expected for a cell? you're getting 3 hours, albeit only chatting as you say, but skype has been and remains a highly demanding application which although is convenient and widely used IMO is poorly written considering it's cpu and battery drainage. compared to simple web based google chat w/ video I get far superior battery life. like i said, my opinion, my experience. and yes as mentioned, try undervolting or SBC kernels or both. My EVO has ranged from stock settings 5 hr life to deck's w/ tiamat sbc + vipermod approx 40 hours (the 40 was when it was honestly just idle most of the time, occasional call or text a little bit of browsing, i was sick so on laptop mostly- although typical moderate daily use I would still be above 20% before plug in before sleep)
as long as you mentioned it, anyone happen to know a stable skype apk with video that was pulled? i've tried different sources and a bunch of my usual roms and I either get only back camera for a little then crashing or front camera green fuzziness and crash instantly.
Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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First off, I apologize for this being here. I THOUGHT I was posting in the Q & A threads so please don't be snarky. I had the other thread open in another browser tab going back and forth looking for input. How it got accepted I don't know; as I said I thought it was going into the QA area. Sorry.
To altman, yes; I am doing a complete format/wipe and only restoring essentials via Titanium.
To 'crammed', try Tango; it's decent video chat, is free and is soon to be released for desktops too so cell to pc video chat will work. Tango is nice that it lets you utilize both front/rear facing cams (and did I mention it's free?). The big problem is trying to chat with folks who don't have cell access/unlimited minutes who need a desktop option like Skype, which is why I use it. With family in Poland and UK, Skype's the best way to stay connected for free for me but again, they don't have the same cellular access/plans so it's not possible to do cell to cell.
Thanks for the input
OP created his/her account before the 10 post restriction went into effect. The change was not retroactive.
tango is cool....i also use ClearSea...it's got the pc support so you can video chat between cell and pc...works pretty nice over 3g...
just an idea....
Decks 1.2.1 stable ROM in "advanced settings" in settings go to performance, go to VM heap set to 48
Savaged Zen 2.2.1 cfs SBC kernel
Battery calibration (market app) follow in app instructions
Setcpu (market app) my settings are 1152 Max 245 min savagedzen governor
Download rom manager and run fix permissions
Let it all sit 3 days, takes kernel that long to set and battery life gets better after a few full charges
I get great battery life. I get upwards of 20 hours easy and I use my phone heavily so, hopefully this will help
Next time please post your questions in the q and a section, dev is for someone who has something they have developed for the community to use. Thanks
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You guys sound like he should be hanged for posting here. Lol people make mistakes, it isn't that big of an issue.
If battery life is an issue for you, you have a few options. You can jump to CM7 or Evo Deck and set them up properly. With either of those, you can flash a nice kernel and set clock speeds accordingly. Battery life is going to suck on any 2.3.3 Rom right now, because developers have no access to the source code for the kernel. HTC is taking their sweet time.
However, you can also look into extended batteries. I have a one I found on ebay for about $16, and it's wonderful. The phone has a little bulk now, but I am currently sitting at 16.25 hours off the charger, and I'm at 32%. This is also on Synergy currently, so there is no custom kernel or anything in use.
Just a few thoughts.
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GeneralSky2004 said:
You guys sound like he should be hanged for posting here. Lol people make mistakes, it isn't that big of an issue.
If battery life is an issue for you, you have a few options. You can jump to CM7 or Evo Deck and set them up properly. With either of those, you can flash a nice kernel and set clock speeds accordingly. Battery life is going to suck on any 2.3.3 Rom right now, because developers have no access to the source code for the kernel. HTC is taking their sweet time.
However, you can also look into extended batteries. I have a one I found on ebay for about $16, and it's wonderful. The phone has a little bulk now, but I am currently sitting at 16.25 hours off the charger, and I'm at 32%. This is also on Synergy currently, so there is no custom kernel or anything in use.
Just a few thoughts.
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+1. It's easy to screw up when you've been up all night downloading and flashing the newest versions of your favorite ROMs or desperately seeking the answers you need. No need to grab your torches once the first 14 people have cried "wrong section" (most of whom then offer advice afterward, enabling much?)
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Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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I have a better question:
Why is it that someone felt it necessary to bump a post that clearly was ignored by everyone and put on the second or third page just to flame someone?
This thread went unnoticed with no replies for over an hour and yet someone felt that necessary.
That **** is just as bad as posting in the wrong section, if not worse.
i have been a member of this forum for about a year now. and as you can tell i have very few posts. The ones i do are simply to say thanks to someone who made an awesome rom/kernel/etc. I spend most of the time searching for the answers im looking for. perhaps if you looked in the right section and researched a bit before you continuously flashed your phone you would know what is going on with it.
gotta love people that just jump of the cliff because the guy in front of did...
Check out my sig, AOSP setup would probably help you with battery life. Current radios too
Zac95 said:
Let it all sit 3 days, takes kernel that long to set and battery life gets better after a few full charges
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Can you elaborate on this a little? I don't necessarily wanna bump this thread, but being a Comp. Sci. major, this seems odd to me.. What does it mean for a kernel to 'set'?
Or are you talking about the collection of data for the accurate battery reading (batters stats)?
mellie815 said:
First off, I apologize for this being here. I THOUGHT I was posting in the Q & A threads so please don't be snarky. I had the other thread open in another browser tab going back and forth looking for input. How it got accepted I don't know; as I said I thought it was going into the QA area. Sorry.
To altman, yes; I am doing a complete format/wipe and only restoring essentials via Titanium.
To 'crammed', try Tango; it's decent video chat, is free and is soon to be released for desktops too so cell to pc video chat will work. Tango is nice that it lets you utilize both front/rear facing cams (and did I mention it's free?). The big problem is trying to chat with folks who don't have cell access/unlimited minutes who need a desktop option like Skype, which is why I use it. With family in Poland and UK, Skype's the best way to stay connected for free for me but again, they don't have the same cellular access/plans so it's not possible to do cell to cell.
Thanks for the input
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Thanks for the tip. I wasn't directing the 10 post mark at you btw, more at moderators/XDA in general. My first account was locked for "spamming" I presume to get 10 posts whereas I actually spent hours answering ppl's questions in the q & a but I guess the short time frame wasn't liked. But I digress, I'm not so in need for cell to cell as much as a nice universal cell to cell/desktop cross platform and unfortunately skype is the most popular. My girlfriend as well as many friends/relatives also don't have the latest phones so the cell to desktop is wanted. for now I'm just sticking to gtalk, with isn't without it's errors either.
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Can you elaborate on this a little? I don't necessarily wanna bump this thread, but being a Comp. Sci. major, this seems odd to me.. What does it mean for a kernel to 'set'?
Or are you talking about the collection of data for the accurate battery reading (batters stats)?
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... Kernel to set meaning it takes a bit for it to settle down to the way it will normally function, call it "breaking it in" or like how you gotta drive a car a few thousand miles before your performance and MPG are where the manufacturer claims itll be... Yeah I kinda like the second analogy, go me!
Frequent flashing or flashing too soon sort of doesn't give the rom or kernel a chance because they haven't stabilized, often why some people praise while at the same time others curse a rom/kernel. Myself included :/ yikes. I found that to be true when deck was held up on his updates for almost a week and my phone was amazing, but I updated and went back into the loop of constant flashing so keep that in mind, if you're set on giving s rom and kernel a shot, give it at least a few days of the kind of use you NORMALLY would. If you're playing with it all day and it dies don't call it shotty battery life until you keep it in your pocket most of the day during the week. Not trying to berate anyone, I've done these same things myself, patience is a virtue after all.
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i have been a member of this forum for about a year now. and as you can tell i have very few posts. The ones i do are simply to say thanks to someone who made an awesome rom/kernel/etc. I spend most of the time searching for the answers im looking for. perhaps if you looked in the right section and researched a bit before you continuously flashed your phone you would know what is going on with it.
gotta love people that just jump of the cliff because the guy in front of did...
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lol reddy
I DID research the ROMs extensively; that's why I'm frustrated. I've tried so many after reading about how great they are. I'm not saying they AREN'T great either, just not working where I live. There's no 4G coverage already and 3G is spotty. Even if I don't load Skype at all I can't get 8 hours off my EVO before it dies.
When you rely on your phone for business like I do, even without Skype at all, you gotta be able to get through a normal workday or the phone's a pretty paperweight and not much else. Right now, I HAVE to plug it in at work or it won't last 8 hours and that just sux.
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lol reddy
I DID research the ROMs extensively; that's why I'm frustrated. I've tried so many after reading about how great they are. I'm not saying they AREN'T great either, just not working where I live. There's no 4G coverage already and 3G is spotty. Even if I don't load Skype at all I can't get 8 hours off my EVO before it dies.
When you rely on your phone for business like I do, even without Skype at all, you gotta be able to get through a normal workday or the phone's a pretty paperweight and not much else. Right now, I HAVE to plug it in at work or it won't last 8 hours and that just sux.
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Well then the issue lies with the network not your Rom
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Hello all!
So a couple of days ago I traded my iPhone 4S 32GB for an SIII. So far I am quite delighted. It is a bit overwhelming at first and it's still taking time to adjust. I have heard from Reddit that this community is awesome.
Anyways the trade went fine and made sure the name, ID, and the IMEI checked out. I called AT&T and all I needed to do was get a new SIM card due to data plans. I love the new refreshing look and the sharp colors and resolution. The Super AMOLED display is definitely on par with the retina display.
It's still within return policy so I might be able to exchange it with AT&T. Even though I didn't purchase it, but can I exchange it? I have the white color and would like the blue if possible. I have the receipt.
It runs quite hot when I use it for a while but my 4S was hotter.
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
I'm a college student student. What are some essential apps I should get? I also watch a lot of movies and stream music is there something better than Pandora?
I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
Is there any cool tip or trick that I can do with the S3?
Also I have quite sweaty hands. How can I take care of the screen?
Thanks
Without rooting is will be hard to backup your apps. However the play store will show you all previously downloaded apps that's you can 're-download.
What I've known to kill my battery is if I have several apps syncing to the phone, from those apps that you downloaded are they free games that might be getting advertisement.
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sync
screen on
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so if you have apps that runs in the background a lot and constantly pushes notifications that will kill it.
being on wifi should save it a bit more than 4g
Welcome =)
Hey, Welcome. I trade my 4S for SIII about a month ago, As you said it is a bit overwhelming at first, but once you get used to it, its just great.
As far as app, goes, just install all the apps you had on iPhone. that's where I started it. Evernote, Pandora, iheartradio, flipboard, facebook, twitter...etc. I got most of the app I used everyday on it, so I felt right at home.
Battery also as you said, take a bit of a hit, i used to charge my phone every other day, now i need to do it every night, thats not really a big deal.
I then rooted my phone, installed CM10 Jell bean and it super great, got rid of all the bloatware that came with stock and Google now + porject butter just make thing so much much easier =).
I always had my iPhone jailbroken so rooting and installing custom rom is not a estrange thing to me, if you are not technical and rather stay in stock, just don't mess with it.
Bronos said:
Hello alooking forward l!
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
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A bad signal quality can decrease batter life, have a good reception. Close unopen apps, dim down the screen brightness.
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
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You can root it anyway, i cant think of any "system checks" per se. if you think its acting up, do a factory reset
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
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None i can think of besides discharging your battery to around 20% than fully charge your battery, do this about 3 times. Called battery conditioning.
I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
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All your apps are tied to your google account. When you sign in again to google on your phone after a factory reset apps will start downloading. Make sure you are syncing to google.
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
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Colors are not interchangeable, thats why samsung specifically sells two different colors. If you are feeling like a brave one, you can buy the shell online and rip the phone apart and change it yourself - this is the unofficial route though.
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A bad sireply. I uality can decrease batter life, have a good reception. Close unopen apps, dim down the screen brightness.
You can root it anyway, i cant think of any "system checks" per se. if you think its acting up, do a factory reset
None i can think of besides discharging your battery to around 20% than fully charge your battery, do this about 3 times. Called battery conditioning.
All your apps are tied to your google account. When you sign in again to google on your phone after a factory reset apps will start downloading. Make sure you are syncing to google.
Colors are not interchangeable, thats why samsung specifically sells two different colors. If you are feeling like a brave one, you can buy the shell online and rip the phone apart and change it yourself - this is the unofficial route though.
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Hey guys thanks for the fast reply I will do factory reset later as I setup a lot already. What bloatware can I delete that AT&T gave me?
Bronos said:
Hey guys thanks for the fast reply I will do factory reset later as I setup a lot already. What bloatware can I delete that AT&T gave me?
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Just curious, what but why are you planning to factory reset??
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Just curious, what but why are you planning to factory reset??
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Sorry typo... I am not doing factory reset.
Bronos said:
Hello all!
So a couple of days ago I traded my iPhone 4S 32GB for an SIII. So far I am quite delighted. It is a bit overwhelming at first and it's still taking time to adjust. I have heard from Reddit that this community is awesome.
Anyways the trade went fine and made sure the name, ID, and the IMEI checked out. I called AT&T and all I needed to do was get a new SIM card due to data plans. I love the new refreshing look and the sharp colors and resolution. The Super AMOLED display is definitely on par with the retina display.
It's still within return policy so I might be able to exchange it with AT&T. Even though I didn't purchase it, but can I exchange it? I have the white color and would like the blue if possible. I have the receipt.
It runs quite hot when I use it for a while but my 4S was hotter.
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
I'm a college student student. What are some essential apps I should get? I also watch a lot of movies and stream music is there something better than Pandora?
I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
Is there any cool tip or trick that I can do with the S3?
Also I have quite sweaty hands. How can I take care of the screen?
Thanks
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running the bell version of jb I get 4 hours screen time, 2 hours talk time and 16 hours up time. Nothing special done, just debloated. I never use WiFi either, always on mobile data. Haven't had the same luck with the t mobile version though.
On stock,I would get about 2.5 hr screen, 1.5 talk and about 16hr screen.
These numbers of course are not always the case, but I check everyday at the end of the day and they are almost always pretty close, obviously if your usage varies, than do still your battery life. They have been days where I get 24 hr+ up time and then others where I have gotten 10. Either way, far better than any iPhone I have had (had then all but the 4s)
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try the LCDTest to check if things are working properly
go into dialer and enter *#0*#. there's various tests you can do to make sure everything is working as it should. to go back from a test, either tap the screen or press back button twice in some cases.
Bronos said:
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
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Turn off auto brightness and keep it dimmer. In doors I usually have my brightness at around 25% or 35% and this is more than enough for me. Obviously turn it up if going outside.
Turn off syncs you don't want. I saw that you mentioned that you are on at&t and by default it has pictures to sync with picasa. Turn this off as it'll KILL your data, it'll be uploading your pictures all the time and with cameras getting higher and higher resolutions they make larger and larger files.
Some people say that juice defender is a good app to use to save battery. Personally I never liked apps like it that turn off data/wifi when my phone screen is off because for me it usually takes too long to turn those back on.
Stay away from auto task killers.
Bronos said:
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
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No real tests that you need to run.
Bronos said:
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
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Can't think of any major settings that are a must to run. I would advise not to use the power saver mode that comes with stock as that thing made my phone a piece of ****.
Bronos said:
I'm a college student student. What are some essential apps I should get? I also watch a lot of movies and stream music is there something better than Pandora?
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Can't think of any major streaming music services that are exclusive to android. There is google play that gives you the option to upload your music from your computer to their cloud and then it'll stream your music to any device you want. I'd say download whatever apps you enjoyed on your iphone as many are on android as well. If you can't find an app do a google search for an equivalent on android.
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I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
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After a factory reset when setting the phone up, it should give the option to have the phone backed up with google. If this is checked whenever you finish the setup it'll start to download the apps you had. I can't remember off the top of my head but I did see a method on XDA front page several weeks ago that gave information on how to back up your apps without rooting, might want to look into that if you don't want to root.
Bronos said:
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
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There is no easy way to go from white to blue as they are part of the case of the phone. The only way to change without going to the store for an exchange is to rip your phone apart which I would advise doing. There are plenty of protective cases to choose from though.
Bronos said:
Is there any cool tip or trick that I can do with the S3?
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Don't know if it is still around but there was a tips and tricks thread for the S3
Things I can think off of the top of my head:
Swiping the side of your hand(think ninja chop) across your screen will take a screen shot.
Disabling s-voice from using the home button double press will make your home button return you to your home screen faster.
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Also I have quite sweaty hands. How can I take care of the screen?
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Buy a screen protector is the only bit of advise I can give you.
With all that being said, if you really want to increase battery life I'd advise rooting. This'll give you access to cpu control apps. The s3 is the first phone I've seen which has a cpu governor set to default at performance. The cpu governor is what determines how your cpu will scale it's speeds, ie going from 300 mhz to 500 to 1500 etc. The performance governor will only allow two speeds, the lowest speed and the max speed. This makes your phone very snappy but isn't battery efficient. A cpu app like set spu or voltage control will allow you to change your governor to something that is more kind to your battery.
Feel free to look through the forums for other apps you might want or info. If you're feeling really confident I'd advise trying a custom kernel or custom rom as they'll open up a whole new world to you, just make sure you research on how to recover your phone from a softbrick/return it to stock. I'd also like to suggest you make a nandroid backup of your phone before flashing anything in a custom recovery.
One more thing I would give as advice is to try a different launcher like apex/go launcher ex/nova/adw. These give you themes to modify your phone easily and without root.
I forgot one last thing to add. REDDIT!!!!
About eight months ago I traded in my Verizon BlackBerry for a Droid Incredible 2, but I still have a LOT to learn, so please bare with me
When I got my Inc2 I immediately got it rooted & flashed with a LOT of help as it took numerous steps and two days to complete. So from day one I've been using Skyraider Zeus, and have really enjoyed it. But recently the battery icon has started turning red with an exclamation point. After having been told by a number of people that this sounded like a battery issue, so I purchased a new battery. Unfortunately that didn't solve the issue. It was then suggested that I flash a new ROM to see if that would fix it. I assumed it would, to an extent, since most ROM's use different battery icon images.
So I traded (begrudgingly) my beloved Skyraider Zeus this weekend for ViperINC 1.3.1. Unfortunately I only used this ROM about 24-hours because I could no longer use wireless tether, which for me was a deal-breaker
I then traded ViperINC for Magnolia 2.1.1, which I very much liked because it was so similar to Skyraider Zeus, and I was once again able to use my wireless tether. Unfortunately I started experiencing the red battery icon issue again, as well as it would not allow me to connect my Google account, thus preventing me from using a lot of features.
So last night I went back to the nandroid backup from over the weekend and am now back to my beloved Skyraider Zeus *SMH*
All this having been said, I have two questions....
First... does anyone have an idea of what could be causing the issue with the battery icon turning red?
Second... can anyone recommend a ROM similar to Skyraider Zeus that can handle my excessive use (email, web, SMS & voice), that supports wireless tether and (if possible) allows me to take screenshots (preferably from the power button like Skyraider)? Oh, and the fewer steps to flash, the better LOL!
Thanks in advance to those who reply!!
JavaBratt said:
About eight months ago I traded in my Verizon BlackBerry for a Droid Incredible 2, but I still have a LOT to learn, so please bare with me
When I got my Inc2 I immediately got it rooted & flashed with a LOT of help as it took numerous steps and two days to complete. So from day one I've been using Skyraider Zeus, and have really enjoyed it. But recently the battery icon has started turning red with an exclamation point. After having been told by a number of people that this sounded like a battery issue, so I purchased a new battery. Unfortunately that didn't solve the issue. It was then suggested that I flash a new ROM to see if that would fix it. I assumed it would, to an extent, since most ROM's use different battery icon images.
So I traded (begrudgingly) my beloved Skyraider Zeus this weekend for ViperINC 1.3.1. Unfortunately I only used this ROM about 24-hours because I could no longer use wireless tether, which for me was a deal-breaker
I then traded ViperINC for Magnolia 2.1.1, which I very much liked because it was so similar to Skyraider Zeus, and I was once again able to use my wireless tether. Unfortunately I started experiencing the red battery icon issue again, as well as it would not allow me to connect my Google account, thus preventing me from using a lot of features.
So last night I went back to the nandroid backup from over the weekend and am now back to my beloved Skyraider Zeus *SMH*
All this having been said, I have two questions....
First... does anyone have an idea of what could be causing the issue with the battery icon turning red?
Second... can anyone recommend a ROM similar to Skyraider Zeus that can handle my excessive use (email, web, SMS & voice), that supports wireless tether and (if possible) allows me to take screenshots (preferably from the power button like Skyraider)? Oh, and the fewer steps to flash, the better LOL!
Thanks in advance to those who reply!!
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It means the phone can't read the battery information (charge level, temperature, etc)... I would first try pulling out the battery and checking the contacts on the battery and the phone. If they are bent or messed up, return the phone to stock and take it back to Verizon for a replacement.
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It means the phone can't read the battery information (charge level, temperature, etc)... I would first try pulling out the battery and checking the contacts on the battery and the phone. If they are bent or messed up, return the phone to stock and take it back to Verizon for a replacement.
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Thanks for the reply, antoniodz95!
I had a number of people suggest it was a battery issue, but cleaning the contacts didn't solve it, so I just got a new battery. But even with the new battery it still happens. I've had days where it barely happens at all, and then I have days where it will stay red almost all day. So I'm thinking it isn't a battery issue at all, but instead is something with the device itself. Which is why I tried a new ROM over the weekend, but again the issue persisted.
Also, I purchased the device outright from someone, so taking it into Verizon isn't an option. That is why I am hoping someone will know how I can fix it since it doesn't appear to be the battery or the ROM causing it
Thanks again!
Your problem definitely sounds like a hardware issue. It could be as simple as a lose connection on the back side of the battery contacts inside your phone. If it isn't negatively affecting the phone's actual battery life and you don't want to crack open the case, you may just have to accept it's imperfection.
As for Rom suggestions... In all honesty, if SkyRader works for you, stick with it. It really is one of the most complete, thorough, and fully functionl GB-basd Sense Roms available for the phone. You could give UKB Evolution a try. But being ICS-based will lend to some "quirks" that may or may not dissuade you from using it.
My wife's phone has the same issue and it is stock unrooted. If memory serves me correctly doesn't skyraider have the option to hide the battery from the status bar? If so just hide it so you don't see it and maybe get a battery widget. The widget may not work either. My wife's phone works fine so it doesn't appear to affect it. And I agree with the above statement that skyraider is hard to beat. As far as gingerbread sense it is my go to rom. I always keep it on my phone in case my phone acts up and I need something dependable.
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Your problem definitely sounds like a hardware issue. It could be as simple as a lose connection on the back side of the battery contacts inside your phone. If it isn't negatively affecting the phone's actual battery life and you don't want to crack open the case, you may just have to accept it's imperfection.
As for Rom suggestions... In all honesty, if SkyRader works for you, stick with it. It really is one of the most complete, thorough, and fully functionl GB-basd Sense Roms available for the phone. You could give UKB Evolution a try. But being ICS-based will lend to some "quirks" that may or may not dissuade you from using it.
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Thanks for the reply, Card83!
It's hard to say if it's having a negative affect or not. My battery has drained like crazy since day one, but I don't know if it's a normal amount of battery drain or not, nor do I know what causes it. I am a heavy user at times, but there are still those days where it seems to drain much quicker than it should in my opinion. All I do know is when compared to my old BlackBerry, this device is as bad and even sometimes worse when it comes to battery drain.
As far as ROM's go, I think I will just stick with Skyraider unless something really catches my eye, especially since the whole process really isn't all that fun for me LOL!
Thanks again!!
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My wife's phone has the same issue and it is stock unrooted. If memory serves me correctly doesn't skyraider have the option to hide the battery from the status bar? If so just hide it so you don't see it and maybe get a battery widget. The widget may not work either. My wife's phone works fine so it doesn't appear to affect it. And I agree with the above statement that skyraider is hard to beat. As far as gingerbread sense it is my go to rom. I always keep it on my phone in case my phone acts up and I need something dependable.
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Thank you for the reply, NeverSeparate!
I don't honestly know if it can be hid or not to tell you the truth. But it isn't that it bothers me, it just concerns me is all. Especially when I started looking into possible causes and had even the most Android knowledgeable people I know stumped. But it doesn't appear that there is any cut and dry explanation for it, so I guess all I can do is wait hope whatever it is doesn't get worse.
In the meantime I will be sticking with Skyraider. It was nice having a different appearance for the weekend, but it sure wasn't worth all the function that was lost.
Thanks again!!
Its probably hardware but you might try clearing battery stats in recovery. That will probably not do anything but it won't hurt. For full functionality if you want something different try cm7 or the gb miui.
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Thanks in advance to those who reply!!
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JavaBratt said:
Thanks for the reply, antoniodz95!
Thanks again!
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JavaBratt said:
Thanks for the reply, Card83!
Thanks again!!
Thank you for the reply, NeverSeparate!
Thanks again!!
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JavaBratt said:
Thanks for the reply, Card83!
It's hard to say if it's having a negative affect or not. My battery has drained like crazy since day one, but I don't know if it's a normal amount of battery drain or not, nor do I know what causes it. I am a heavy user at times, but there are still those days where it seems to drain much quicker than it should in my opinion. All I do know is when compared to my old BlackBerry, this device is as bad and even sometimes worse when it comes to battery drain.
As far as ROM's go, I think I will just stick with Skyraider unless something really catches my eye, especially since the whole process really isn't all that fun for me LOL!
Thanks again!!
Thank you for the reply, NeverSeparate!
I don't honestly know if it can be hid or not to tell you the truth. But it isn't that it bothers me, it just concerns me is all. Especially when I started looking into possible causes and had even the most Android knowledgeable people I know stumped. But it doesn't appear that there is any cut and dry explanation for it, so I guess all I can do is wait hope whatever it is doesn't get worse.
In the meantime I will be sticking with Skyraider. It was nice having a different appearance for the weekend, but it sure wasn't worth all the function that was lost.
Thanks again!!
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Unless you are using an official charger, try a different one, in particular, try the one made for our phones...
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We have 2 DI2 - one has been running SR Zeus continuously (95% of the time) for 15+ months with no issues, with light usage & minimal mobile data/3G - get 3 days+ of standby as it's mostly on voice calls. Mine has been flashed with variety of Roms sourced from XDA, been running lately on HTCI2-MROM based on CM7, battery life is a notch better or equal to SK Zeus - otherwise, it runs on the following Stock Sense Rom, which has nice tweaks - very similiar and as good as Zeus, if not better. It has given me good battery / standby time - average of 2 to 3 days, 25 to 30 hours if I'm really pushing it (tethering, GPS, video streaming, etc.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219471
What Recovery are you using - as others suggested, it could be hardware issues (loose connection/dropped or even (*gasp*) water-damaged pre-owned device that you are now holding, especially with a brand new/fresh battery & HTC's OEM batteries are very good, my old HTC Ozone running Windows 6 is still holding a great charge with its original battery after 4 years.
I would suggest letting the battery drain and fully charge it, go into Recovery & wipe battery stats and use it normally - let it run and stablize for 2 or 3 cycles with the new battery, and see how it go. Keep the "old" battery charged as a spare and carry it with you for the next few days so that you won't be holding a paperweight.
Assumed you are on the CDMA/Verizon side and not using GSM bands - are you using mostly WiFi or 3G, or a mix of both signals - as all of these do affect (depending on signal strength) your battery life, and that your PRL (*228 option 2) are updated on a regular basis. Running background Apps such as FB, Twitter, etc. also do affect how much usable time you get on a charge, as you know.
Have you tried fixing permissions? Could be the issue.
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Should I update from where im at? I haven't updated my phone since I took it out of the box. All I did was root to install wanam expose, xposed installer and region lock away. What do you guys recommend? What's the easier way to update without installing a custom recovery.
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Yes and use my guide here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54787998
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Should I update from where im at? I haven't updated my phone since I took it out of the box. All I did was root to install wanam expose, xposed installer and region lock away. What do you guys recommend? What's the easier way to update without installing a custom recovery.
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No i wouldnt stay on jellybean too many problems with kitkat.
The only "problem" i can come up right away is apps using extSDcard issue... which is already solved if root. What other problems are there?
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Yes and use my guide here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54787998
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Thanks i updated to NF9 using your method, i then rerooted my phone. Lot faster than before. Thank you very much
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Sure there are other problems, in my case I can't get the battery usage under control. I'm rooted and freeze whole bunch of stuff, more so than under Jelly Bean and it's still not what it used to be. I even did full factory reset, which is a huge pain all by itself (car BT pairing took 3 days alone, it wouldn't auto connect, lost few games progress despite restoring from backup, needed to restore AC3 again etc.) and still battery usage is much higher now than before. I really see no improvement whatsoever, oh wait I see that new volte message sometimes popping up, big deal, I can make phone calls just the same as before . Did I mention I lost region unlock? Not sure about SIM lock, I know it got unlocked with region, but now, after update probably locked again. To be fair Effortless method worked great, but for me it was all downhill afterwords and I'm not sure I would upgrade knowing what I know now. Maybe my experience is isolated and due to something particular I did or not do, but the old saying "don't fix it if it ain't broken" rings in my ear over and over again.
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Sure there are other problems, in my case I can't get the battery usage under control. I'm rooted and freeze whole bunch of stuff, more so than under Jelly Bean and it's still not what it used to be. I even did full factory reset, which is a huge pain all by itself (car BT pairing took 3 days alone, it wouldn't auto connect, lost few games progress despite restoring from backup, needed to restore AC3 again etc.) and still battery usage is much higher now than before. I really see no improvement whatsoever, oh wait I see that new volte message sometimes popping up, big deal, I can make phone calls just the same as before . Did I mention I lost region unlock? Not sure about SIM lock, I know it got unlocked with region, but now, after update probably locked again. To be fair Effortless method worked great, but for me it was all downhill afterwords and I'm not sure I would upgrade knowing what I know now. Maybe my experience is isolated and due to something particular I did or not do, but the old saying "don't fix it if it ain't broken" rings in my ear over and over again.
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If your having issues you might want to try reflash. I didn't loose any apps or games, my car bt connected the same, remember that now your phone uses volte which could be a cause for more battery drain so why don't you try turn it off after reflashing. My only complaint is that while your on a voltle call you can conference as many calls you want but don't have the option to drop a specific line so only option is to end all call. I just went to volte settings and changed it to do not use volte and now i got back my conference call button back when on multiple calls.
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If your having issues you might want to try reflash. I didn't loose any apps or games, my car bt connected the same, remember that now your phone uses volte which could be a cause for more battery drain so why don't you try turn it off after reflashing. My only complaint is that while your on a voltle call you can conference as many calls you want but don't have the option to drop a specific line so only option is to end all call. I just went to volte settings and changed it to do not use volte and now i got back my conference call button back when on multiple calls.
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Thanks for ideas, but It's not volte, when home i"m always on wifi and for example just last night lost 20% charge overnight, wakelock shows nothing, the only time I had anything like that on JB was when I switched off wifi power save in secret menu long time ago when troubleshooting wifi calling. BT first wouldn't connect at all, then connected, but wouldn't reconnect again next day, finally on third day it held. I think I read somebody was claiming SD card fix breaks BT, or something like that, but now finally seems to be working. I'll probably freeze/disable everything at some point and then start enabling few apps at the time, to see when it starts blowing battery again, but this will take forever.. Update itself went fine, I even verified firmware's checksums, like first time ever and I have no reboots, no crashes, no freezing. Actually let me check that stupid wifi save mode, maybe it turned itself off.
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Sure there are other problems, in my case I can't get the battery usage under control. I'm rooted and freeze whole bunch of stuff, more so than under Jelly Bean and it's still not what it used to be. I even did full factory reset, which is a huge pain all by itself (car BT pairing took 3 days alone, it wouldn't auto connect, lost few games progress despite restoring from backup, needed to restore AC3 again etc.) and still battery usage is much higher now than before. I really see no improvement whatsoever, oh wait I see that new volte message sometimes popping up, big deal, I can make phone calls just the same as before . Did I mention I lost region unlock? Not sure about SIM lock, I know it got unlocked with region, but now, after update probably locked again. To be fair Effortless method worked great, but for me it was all downhill afterwords and I'm not sure I would upgrade knowing what I know now. Maybe my experience is isolated and due to something particular I did or not do, but the old saying "don't fix it if it ain't broken" rings in my ear over and over again.
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Ok first of all the reason why I'm responding is purely to try and help, and I know some people can be sensitive to criticism so I just wanted to clarify that my intentions are not to flame you. With that being said I know that I don't "know" so I'm only basing this from your post, but you seem to be extremely negative about the entire process in general. I also understand that it may be overwhelming for people who aren't technically "in to" rooting or even customizing their phones, which is why I often consider rooting to be a double edged sword for a lot of people.
This is why basically imo it's a complete waste for someone to "pay" someone else to root or customize their phone for them (I'm definitely not implying that's what you did or anything just to clarify), because it's not in the least bit a one time thing where once it's done it'll just be smooth sailing from there on out. It takes a huge amount of upkeep and dedication to get and enjoy the most out of what rooting and customizing has to offer, and for some people the trade off just isn't worth the overall amount of work which involved with it. It always just depends on the person, how they use and how much they use their phones, the amount of work they are willing to put into it, and what exactly they expect to get out of it, to determine if it's even worth the process to begin with.
As far as what you were talking about with wiping the phone, having to set everything up again, and losing some of your game data, it kinda sounds like that was along the lines of a traumatic experience for you especially when compared to others who might actually go through that same process 10 or more times a day and really enjoy it.
Also as far as your battery life goes there's so many different variables that can determine whether you'll have killer battery life or struggle to make it through the day kinda battery life, but the beauty of root and the ability to customize is that you never have to just settle for one or the other. One thing I'd strongly suggest is to look into different Kernels depending on which rom you're on, because it's amazing how much difference the right kernel for your device alone can make with battery. Every single device is different in it's own tolerances and even if you pull 2 of the same phones that are back to back off of the assembly line, one might work better with a specific kernel/rom combination than another, one could have better stock battery life than the other, and so on. So I always try to take others experiences with certain Kernels or Roms kind of lightly, because that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to have the same results with my specific device.
Another to keep in mind is that whenever you flash a new rom, kernel, or even flash a new ota, it'll always take at least 3 or 4 days before the kernel will fully settle in and start to show the "true" battery life and performance that you can expect. So if you flash a new rom or kernel and then decide after just one day that the battery life sucks or that the performance isn't what you were expecting and then flash something else, you literally have no idea how that rom or kernel would've truly performed because it didn't even have enough time to settle in. For example I flashed a kernel one time and for the first 3 days the battery life was 10 times worse than what I was getting, and then half way through the 3rd day I started to notice it getting better and better until it wound up literally being the best battery life I had ever had at that point. So if I would've said screw it and automatically decided it was going to be terrible based on what it did at first, I would've screwed myself out of the best battery life I'd ever had up until then. It just takes a lot of patients and I'm not saying this is what you did at all, but I think a lot of people simply don't wait long enough to actually see the "true results" before deciding something is good or bad.
Anyway I waited awhile before doing the update as well because my phone was running almost exactly how I liked it, and when I finally did do the update I wasn't getting the same results at first which can always be discouraging. I'm glad now that I did do the update though because it took some tinkering with but now it's running even better than it was before. Good luck with your phone though and I guess my point is that you don't have to settle for anything if you don't want to, that's the beauty of being able to do all of this on the first place!
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Thanks for the advice, but to clarify things: there are many posts on this forums and T-mobile forum complaining about poor battery life after updating to KK, so I'm not alone. It's been close to 2 months since I updated and I still can't get my phone to run as efficiently as it was, so I'm frustrated since nothing shows up in wakelock or any other program I tried. One time I can loose 20% overnight, other time 2%, never had anything like that before. I have no idea what are you talking about people paying for rooting their phone, so I just leave it at that. I have few games that have many levels, where you can't go to next level before finishing the lower one, I backed up all programs and data with Titanium and some games didn't restore properly, even with multiple tries leaving me at level one, no big deal since I'm not hardcore gamer, but things like that do happen. As far as updates in general go, I had a lot of bad experiences, once I even lost my desktop computer after updating manufacturer released faulty BIOS and had to buy video card to fix it, even recent Apple's ios 8.01 update was faulty and they had to release update to update, next day, so things not always go as planned. I do not see any visible benefits in KK, all I see is broken SD card access, gone per apps permission settings, patched up root exploit (thank you towelroot for new one, which is already patched in the latest release BTW) and in my case poor battery life, so I'm not impressed and not quiet sure it was worth for me to update. I felt OP should have been warned, that there are some people having some issues after the update. Maybe because I like my Note3 a lot and want it to be perfect, this battery issue annoys me more than it should, but it seems the harder I try, the worst it gets.