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TP2 Android biggest disapointments... ---> BATTERY METER

Very very thankyou ppls for your hard work... i really appreciate the hard work of the devs.. but can some1 tell me that when the battery metter is fixing.....i only bought this to use android on it but due to unstable battery indcator i m not able to properly get the fun of android on this device.....seriously i have no intrest to use winmo..i liked the keyboard and read that its android compatiable so i bought it .... i know some ppls will say that go buy something else ..... all i need is battery fix and i think many of the ppls here will agree with me....well i for me i m w8ing more 15 days to see if the proper battery fix appears then i will continue it else i will go for Motorola Milestone...i m not saying that these ppls are not working .. all i m saying that all we need is a battery fix with Wifi
w8ing for the ppls opinions
Thanks

honestly man, whats the point of this post? The devs know whats working and what isn't and I'm sure they're working on fixing and improving things. The fact that you can even boot up and run Android on a Windows Mobile phone shows the dedication and work they've put into this so far, its just a matter of work and time until everything is working, have faith and wait it out

dont be surprised if u start gettin some negative responses.
first off, the battery fix wrks great and is very accurate. there must b something u not doing right. i even posted my initial battery readings in the thread with this new build. actually the battery fix is almost dead accurate. i got 8+ hrs. outta of it yesterday. with overclock, with constant use. so nonoverclocked build will probaly bring even longer use.
second, wifi wrks perfectly.
third, why would u buy a device just to run a project build then if u wanted everything wrking? i understand the keyboard thing but unless u got ur device on a good ass deal, kind of silly to buy it just to run something not even fully completed yet. come on now.
Fourth, b4 u bought ur device, did u thoroughly read everything going on with this build or u just jumped in head first?
this is why so many people getting flamed cuz they dont do the research or homework. then come on here posting about why this or that isnt wrking. or what ASSUMPTIONS they have.
dont take this post the wrong way cuz this will probaly be one of the nicer posts towards u. lmfao juss way too many people jumping in and complaining when they wouldve already known the known issues with the build. which in ur case is incorrect. there has to be something u did wrong.
these are questions to ask self why batter fix and wifi not wrking for u.
Am i using the latest builds? Did i thoroughly follow instructions on installing it? Did i install the build with the battery fix in it? Did I break my battery fix by updating the zImage and modules?(which will break the battery fix). if thats not the case, then, Did i update the latest roofts and inirtd files? Did i even troubleshoot the problems b4 posting saying they dont wrk? lol
im not trying to sound like a dckhead..lmfao but im sure the developers would say the same thing basically.
they might have to implement what they doing on the other threads now. if u dont have a certain number of posts, then dont download and try out builds with doing the research first. a moderator stepped in and said that. cuz way too many people complaining about stuff thats already known or complaining about stuff that wrks but they didnt do it correctly.
food for thought, try the latest build. then DO NOT UPDATE THE ZIMAGE AND MODULES AFTERWARDS. only update the roofts and inirtd files.
if u need help getting it running right, let me know. ill be more thn happy to help or assist u, seriously. srry to sound cranky, just woke up n stressed about other things in life..lol
good luck

jamb said:
... all i need is battery fix and i think many of the ppls here will agree with me....well i for me i m w8ing more 15 days to see if the proper battery fix appears then i will continue it else i will go for Motorola Milestone...i m not saying that these ppls are not working .. all i m saying that all we need is a battery fix with Wifi
w8ing for the ppls opinions
Thanks
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What the hell is the point of this post? Can we lock this thread, please?

@demandarin
1st i was prepaired for the negative response..
2nd... right now i m testing the new 2.2 froyo beta build as stock no overclocked no thing just extract to mc... and testing while calling / messing with it...very much stable rather then old builds :d.....very much stable /nice reponse / no battery warming(which i was worried of) / no force close atleast now.. / played assassin creed and many thing works preety nice.. wel right now i have'nt use wifi or data roaming /
3rd..well i got 2 options 1 was TP2 and 2nd was Motorola milestone ... well i dont like to milestone keyboard but i forgot that it was way slimmer then tp2 / also compatiable with new builds by defualt...well i was tp2 in local market then came to xda and saw the thread about android and just go for it.. as seeing the progress i thought that it will be fixed soon...now i cant tolarate windows-mo anymore just want to go to the android again asap...so i started this thread...
4th well i readed all the faqs / tips everything before buying tp2...like 50%
well its cool , its nice to get a proper postive feedback from a geek :d wel i will defenately ask for help from u if i came across with anything which i will not able to understand..
Thankyou

jsmith8858 said:
What the hell is the point of this post? Can we lock this thread, please?
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the point of this post is to know about battery fix.. because i think its damaging the battery...because while turing on the android the led indicator turns on and battery start heating-up sorry dont sound to be rude but please if u cant help dont bother to post you will waste your time...

Would you all kindly stop being illiterate? English words are made of letters not numbers.
On topic, jamb, you could have dropped the silly threats (Imma buy another phone) and just asked the question.

Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.

Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your title isn't so much directed at andoid as it is the people who spend hours and hours and hours developing a working version for our phone. So, yes it can be taken as being insulting, with that people are going to see this post and think "who is this guy?"
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.

My battery meter seems to be working just dandy. I did a test yesterday and it was dead on. When in Android I looked at the battery meter and it was about 3/4 full. I opened spare parts and it was at 64%. I then rebooted the phone into WM (6.5, energy ROM) and opened tbattery and it was at 64%
I chared my phone to 100% yester afternoon around 5pm and after heavy use; 5 minutes twitter updates, constant facebook, automaticl gmail check, and non-stop text, I'm still sitting around 50%.
The work they are doing is awesome.
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Any battery meter needs to have several complete charge/recharge cycles to be completely accurate (charge phone to 100%, drain until it powers off by itself, repeat at least 3 times). So I would think Android on the TP2 is no different.
Anyway, if the OP got the message that the TP2 is "Andriod compatible", that that was the wrong impression, or at least an overstatement. This is an ongoing project. Given, one where some great folks are putting in tons of work and doing a wonderful job (and much appreciated). But its not perfect, and not the same as a phone which natively runs Android. If that was the OPs intent, then big mistake and he should have done more research before buying.

And its always been posted that the battery meter has issues. I don't know how he could puurchase a TP2 for android and didn't even read the 1st post of the thread.
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Anyone tried buying those larger batteries off ebay? I saw one that's lager but isn't larger in size where you'd need a new back case.
How much difference is 1800mAh compared to 1500mAh anyway? Another hour of life?

Aaron McCarthy said:
Considering this phone wasn't intended to even run android..... and you bought it without clearly reading through and seeing what was working and what wasn't... yeah I can see peoples frustrations with your question.
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
It's called development for a reason, its still on going and there is still a LOT of work to be done and no one knows time frames on this. It's like asking when we're going to mars (all be it that might be a very dramatic example)
Regarding the battery. As was discussed... there is a fix and if it isn't working for you then you aren't doing something right. It's accurate and thats all anyone can hope for. As far as becoming warm. Well it probably has something to do with what you are using on your phone. Internet, GPS, etc etc... all at once. overclocking it is a big culprit for the warmness of phones. The more you tax the phone the more it will become warm.
It wont 'ruin' your batter by using the phone... Just be patient and understand that these fixes could come out tomorrow or could never come! Just what it is.
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1st well i completely readed the faqs that which things was working and which r not ..when i was going to buy new fone i was damn excited that the great devs make it happen to run android on TP2 and because i liked the keyboard and android compatible i thought that battery fix will come soon ... i got no interest to use winmo ..now i m fedup with winmo and just want to switch to android completely thats y i just asked for the battery fix.i m not forcing them to make it for me..just asking
2nd well i got 2 options motorola milestone(totally android ) or htc tp2 .. i was not into motorola devices so readed about tp2 is compatible ..well in my country only 5 or 6% ppls use other brand otherwise the remaining ppls use nokia or samsung so i wasnt able to use tp2 before the only option i got was to use it personally .....
i know that many many works need to be done...
well i readed about the fix but it is working without wifi and as i said earlier , i know its sound mean but all i need is battery fix with wifi...well as for battery warming without internet , no gps , no overclocking , no nothing just used with its original files it was just lying on my table and when i put it into my pocket i can feel that the battery is warming up so i have to restart the fone to switch back to winmo...
Your best bet, as I'm sure you know, if you wanted a perfectly working andoid phone was to buy one that was designed for it OR at least play with someones touch pro 2 who has android running on it so you would know what to expect.
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well thankyou for ur help ... i really liked your suggestion so within 2 or 3 days i will switch to motorola asap....
Thankyou

1jaxstate1 said:
My battery meter seems to be working just dandy. I did a test yesterday and it was dead on. When in Android I looked at the battery meter and it was about 3/4 full. I opened spare parts and it was at 64%. I then rebooted the phone into WM (6.5, energy ROM) and opened tbattery and it was at 64%
I chared my phone to 100% yester afternoon around 5pm and after heavy use; 5 minutes twitter updates, constant facebook, automaticl gmail check, and non-stop text, I'm still sitting around 50%.
The work they are doing is awesome.
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i know they done an awesome job ... i simply love this forum...

redpoint73 said:
Any battery meter needs to have several complete charge/recharge cycles to be completely accurate (charge phone to 100%, drain until it powers off by itself, repeat at least 3 times). So I would think Android on the TP2 is no different.
Anyway, if the OP got the message that the TP2 is "Andriod compatible", that that was the wrong impression, or at least an overstatement. This is an ongoing project. Given, one where some great folks are putting in tons of work and doing a wonderful job (and much appreciated). But its not perfect, and not the same as a phone which natively runs Android. If that was the OPs intent, then big mistake and he should have done more research before buying.
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mate i already did these things like i charged the fone 100% in winmo then switched the android after using for a while like calling for 2 or 3 minutes and some txt msgs and fone pop-up opens of charging the device.. i know its not perfect .. i didnt asked for every fix and i do alot research before buying the device. i spend 2weeks searching about tp2 and android.... and for now all i can say is
I LOVE THIS FORUM AND THEIR HELPING PPLS
I LOVE THE DEVS HERE FOR THEIR AWESOME WORK
AND I M SWITCHING TO MOTOROLA MILESTONE(COMPLETELY ANDROID )because i was tired to use winmo...

1jaxstate1 said:
And its always been posted that the battery meter has issues. I don't know how he could puurchase a TP2 for android and didn't even read the 1st post of the thread.
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i know i know i know ...... i readed the faqs / complete post about .... i purchased the device just for its keyboard after blackberry 9700 i liked this device keyboard and android compatible i thought i going to be fun to use this device...Happy now???

Mods i got my answers and want to close this Thread
Thankyou

Might want to give this a read:
HTC Vision with Android, full QWERTY in the wild

Aaron McCarthy said:
Might want to give this a read:
HTC Vision with Android, full QWERTY in the wild
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thanks mate but its in rumors i think it will release Q4 2010 or Q2 2011... and i dont have that much time ... just fedup with this winmo....android is far far better then winmo

HELP me before I switch to an iPhone

This thing is reallllyyy pissing me off. Before people say "are you happy now, see ya later, or the iPhone sucks"
Their are serious issues with the Android OS and the Battery is the main problem with the EVO.
Now if someone can give me a fix for this I would greatly appreciate it and continue to love using my phone again but untill then Every little thing is going wrong with this phone to make me want to switch.
Here it is:
I am NOT rooted! I have 4G turned off, WIFI, bluetooth, and GPS turned off, I also have the screen brightness set to automatic. I have no widgets on the home screen that require an internet connection, and have all syncing turned off, on everything! that includes contacts, facebook, mail (stock and gmail) weather, and news.
I even have "enable always-on mobile data" turned off.
I am currently using Launcher Pro, but was using ADW launcher before that and then stock 2.1 android (no sense turned on, on all of them)
My battery barely makes it 8 hours without being on low.
under the battery category, for the past week or so plus, I havent really checked into that, So i can't tell you when it started, as been on 100%
So my uptime and my awake time have been the same.
I have turned the phone on and off 5 times already, used a task killer, turned on airplane mode, and no dice.
The only definite fix, is going one by one and deleting an app, turning the phone on and off, and looking at battery usage, I have easily 25 apps and that will take forever. Or doing a hard reset, something I do not want to waste my time doing again, reconfiguring my phone, and reinstalling a bunch of apps and settings.
An example of todays usage, I am not exagerating any of this.
I unplugged it at 10:30 AM, 25 total text messages (going in an out) no phone calls, 4G was on and connected for a total of 2 Minutes.
Now I know if you leave 4G on and you are not connected it kills the battery, but I had it off, turned it on for 2 Minutes because I was in chicago, and wanted to see how fast it was ran 3 speed tests, and turned it off.
I refreshed my email 4 times, That means opening up the mail app, clicking menu and refresh, same thing with facebook, refreshed my news feed 5 times. and at 6:30
I have 2 out of the 5 bars left.
That is absolutely rediculous, I am past my 30 day return time.
An OS that allows certain apps to keep the phone on and make the battery life horrible is rediculous.
This is a list of all apps I have both from the market and off:
advanced task killer
AK notepad
akari
astro
better cut
betterkeyboard
dictionary.com (offical App)
facebook
find my phone
Flikie wallpaper
fox news
handcent sms
keeper
leet speak
live scores
memory trainer
news and weather (from nexus one, but refreshing is on manual)
pass phrase
pda net
picsay pro
qik
ringroid
shazam
speedtest
status notes
texas hold em
tip calculator
tv listings
urban dictionary
zedge
I have notice one thing tho with launcherpro, for some reason when I go into an app or hold down the home button to bring up the multitasking 6 app menu, and then click home after, the setting to come up that asks which home launcher I want
HTC sense or Launcherpro
comes up all the time, like 10 times a day, and I always click choose this action for default and click launcher pro and sure enough after opening a couple apps, and clicking home the box will come up, may be that has something to do with the battery I dont know tho.
If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate, and you would save an evo from being thrown into a wall.
thanks.

Try out CM6 and I guarantee you'll never even think about an iphone again.

Like he said above.. Root and get cm6.. I can go 2 days easy regular use..
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the iphone sucks

can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.

The key is in data if your not using mobile data then use the widget to turn it off til you need it. Or root and flash a custom rom. They have better battery life hands down
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Read the insane battery life thread.
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mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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Yeah it just can't make calls

the iphone sucks

mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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Because i don't have to wrap my phone in Rubber or Duct Tape it for it to make a phone call or maintain a data connection. You were just asking to get flamed by posting this. If you wan't help from people around here, bashing Android and saying "IOS 4 has no problems!!!" isn't going to be your best option.
P.S. Stock Android 2.1 or even Sense UI crushes IOS 4. Maybe it's not the phone....maybe it's the user.

You didn't specifically say that you had Google talk signed out. Turn off auto sign in on that app and it makes a huge difference.
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iphone sucks

I didn't see anyone mention this, not that it's going to be your issue but it could be something to check.
I recall a friend having a severe battery issue and it turned out the stock calendar program was preventing his phone from hibernating and thus being on constantly.
Just something to try, I hope you find out what's up soon. Also not sure if you have a spare battery, but sometimes you can get a dud and the only way to test that is try another battery.

Seriously, if you think iOS4 is better than Android then that's the phone you need. You pretty much just wasted everyone's time with all that.

While I would agree that if you want to get dramatically improved battery life, your best bet is to root it and flash a custom rom, Even when my phone was stock it got much better battery life than yours seems to be getting. I actually ran my phone for for weeks stock, not rooted, so I would have a good baseline of experience when I did start to customize it.
Typically, my phone would last about 10-14 hours before needing to be recharged. That would be with slightly more usage than you indicate, and with data and gps always on, but 4g off, as I don't live in a 4g area.
Now that I am rooted, and am running Fresh 1.0.1 and the fps fix kernel, and a battery saver setcpu profile, the same use gives me more than 50% charge left after running 14-16 hours off the charger.
Personally, it sounds to me like you might have a defective battery. As one of the previous posters said, I would recommend you try the instructions in one of the battery life threads here and if that didn't work, I would take it to the Sprint repair center.

mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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iphone isn't a terrible phone, it just doesn't compare to an EVO.
anything iphone can do, the evo can do - and do it better.
no need to be on wi-fi for a video chat!

Why would you buy a 4.3 inch screen....4g.... and expect awesome battery? Yes it could be better but come-on....if you didn't expect it to have bad battery life....?????????? That's all I can say I just don't understand...android phones normally have bad battery life on top of all that....
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I'm having the same issues as you except that I am rooted. Have an underclocked phone and Baked Snack 9.7
I'm really beginning to think that the people that claim to get 14+ hours of battery life is just a bunch of bs. I do exactly what they do and i get no where near the 18 hours some users claim to get. And for the people bashing the iphone, its not a bad phone, and almost everyone that invests $200 in a phone get a case anyway. And no i'm not bashing the Evo either. Battery life just sucks on it.

mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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No offense, but it seems like you kind of made up your mind already on what you want to do. Iphone 4 is a good phone, but honestly, it gets boring after about a week, if that. Android is so much fun. You don't have to root your phone for it to work properly. Do some research into why batteries drain really fast with this phone. You do realize how big the screen is right? lol. I''l give you ups and downs of both phones.
Iphone 4-
Good
Nice looking phone, OS is smooth, apps.
Bad
Got to watch where you hold it, AT&T (they don't have unlimited data plan), not very much to do with Iphone
Evo
Good
Big screen, Sprint, camera, don't have to be on wi-fi for video calling, fully customizable, even more so if you root it. There are more but tired of typing!
Bad
Battery
Thats just my opinion though. I would have more bad things to say about it if not for Cyanogen. Its like an overgrown Nexus now! Sorry for the long post. lol. If you have any questions on how to root or anything feel free to send me a message or whatever.

mjz147 said:
under the battery category, for the past week or so plus, I havent really checked into that, So i can't tell you when it started, as been on 100%
So my uptime and my awake time have been the same.
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dial *#*#4636#*#*
battery history
partial wake usage
tell me what comes up 1st and 2nd.

[Q] Kernel Advice for a CM Noob!

Alrighty,
So, to make a long story short, I had been using Fresh Evo rom since about September/October. About 2 weeks ago, I went to upgrade my rom, and through multiple poor decisions and sheer stupidity, I bricked my phone. Anyways, new phone arrives, gets fixed, etc. I root and install CM7. I've been using it since Friday, and I very much like it. However, I do seem to be having a slight problem. I feel as if my battery is draining a lot faster than it was when I was using my 2.2 Fresh rom. I am planning on doing the battery stats wipe later on tonight. Anyways, to my question: What kernel options are there for CM7 AOSP Roms? I'm am woefully ignorant on the subject, and the searching I've done on the subject has left me more or less confused.
Many thanks,

To make it short and sweet, the best/ popular options are now:
Tiamat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972746
Savaged-zen: http://mirror.munkibizness.com/

teh roxxorz said:
To make it short and sweet, the best/ popular options are now:
Tiamat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972746
Savaged-zen: http://mirror.munkibizness.com/
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My savior from my brick thread! Thank you! Follow up question: I was reading part of the Savaged-zen thread in the android development section and people were talking about SBC charging. Some of the stuff I've read has made it seem like it is a dangerous type of charging, while other are getting absolutely absurd amounts of life out of their batteries while using it
So... is it a SBC kernel? Is it worth risking messing up the battery? Any thoughts/suggestions/comments are much appreciated.

misterneums said:
My savior from my brick thread! Thank you! Follow up question: I was reading part of the Savaged-zen thread in the android development section and people were talking about SBC charging. Some of the stuff I've read has made it seem like it is a dangerous type of charging, while other are getting absolutely absurd amounts of life out of their batteries while using it
So... is it a SBC kernel? Is it worth risking messing up the battery? Any thoughts/suggestions/comments are much appreciated.
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sbc info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10530215#

misterneums said:
My savior from my brick thread! Thank you! Follow up question: I was reading part of the Savaged-zen thread in the android development section and people were talking about SBC charging. Some of the stuff I've read has made it seem like it is a dangerous type of charging, while other are getting absolutely absurd amounts of life out of their batteries while using it
So... is it a SBC kernel? Is it worth risking messing up the battery? Any thoughts/suggestions/comments are much appreciated.
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-Cape flaps in the wind- I have returned!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880 Best info on kernels.
Personally, I don't use SBC because 1: It can make your phone laggy at times, which is annoying 2: It can and has proven to be bad for the battery, in terms of leaking/exploding on people. Yes people have gotten ridiculous [not gona lie] nice battery on it, because it pushes lower voltages at time to get the max charge, so it actually takes longer to charge, but holds it longer. Great in the short run, bad in long term, but again, I personally wouldn't recommend it.

Hmm... A lot to think about. I'm using the default CM kernel right now. I pulled my phone off the charger at work around 2:30. I was using Wifi tether until 3:00. I've made a few phone calls, sent about a dozen texts, browsed around on facebook and what not. Found out that facebook was eating up my phone with 40 minutes of partial wake usage, made some adjustments so facebook *hopefully* won't do that again. Was at about 70% Rebooted the phone. I'm currently at 68% at 5:15. My room is also in a basement, so I'm sure my signal strength is fairly poor and that probably isn't helping either. Still, I feel like I'm going through this battery a little too quick for my tastes.
Maybe I'm going to have to look into getting the Seido 3500 battery, and cover, and car holster >.>
I'm going to try to give it a few days. I just did a battery stat reset, so I'm going to let it die, recharge, then see how it pans out. In the meantime--I'm thinking about checking out Savaged-zen. Maybe read through those 200 pages of posts :-\

Well give it a few days to settle in, and wifi tether is definately a power drainer, even for me and all users. I typically only use it when things get bad enough and i need to get on xbl, or download torrents slowly, cuz I'm at school >>. Also the spotty signal area definably doesn't help either. And if you check out the OP page, the first couple, and the last few, you should be okay. I'm having good life on the Tiamat kernel personally. Also, you can change your governor to smartass or conservative, both yield good battery life.

Tired of guessing, requesting help

I have been reading everyday since the day it came out... the same day I bought it.
Hope you all don't mind but I have quite a few questions/frustrations
1st, Battery life is killing me... cannot make it through a day, I have put my screen on auto which seems a lot dimmer than set to 40 or 60%. All I do is play some solitaire, check mail a lot, a little bit of net, maybe 30 minutes of calls (tops) a few txt msgs, with maybe 2 hours or slightly more of screen time.
External speaker is embarrassing... tried showing a video to a friend with an iphone and felt like flushing the damn phone after he did the same.
Data connectivity is still hit and miss... one minute I have 4 bars of 4G and the next I have none.
I am on (details in sig) 4.0.4 (Craig Gomez version) with the newest radios. The device is a serious work tool for me so I really don't have the time to try different ROMS or kernels all the time... I need it always ready for calls, emails and occasional RDP or Logmein sessions .
For those of you have actually tried many/experienced in the world of various ROMs & kernels... do you have a suggestion of what to do with my setup?
Between the battery and data connectivity I feel the phone is close to crap... my friends with Razors have none of these problems and I feel like I am ready to snap.
BTW... if you could be even more kind... if you have a suggestion on what to run, could you suggest a brief set of instructions... i.e. nandriod, full wipe, install this first that second...
Thanks for any and all help... I sure would like to come up with or remember a reason why I have this and not a razor max.

Do you have the latest radios? That will make a difference. I do know the speaker is weak. There's not much to do but for a volume hack, some roms have it enabled.
Id ask for a replacement phone if battery is that bad and you can't get a decent signal anywhere but other phones can. Sounds like a defective phone.

I've been using Android Revolution for about 2 weeks, and as for today, I don't think there's anything as good as it. It's just like stock, just a little bit faster. I have great battery life, 5 to 6 Hours of screen on time, AutoBrightness, sync on, wifi always on, etc, it's pretty good, you should give it a try.
I've also used AOKP (with FrancoKernel and with stock kernel), and even tho I liked all extra features, in my experience, with screen off, it drains battery a looot faster that stock/ARHD.
I used an app called equalizer to fix the speaker

veloslave said:
I have been reading everyday since the day it came out... the same day I bought it.
Hope you all don't mind but I have quite a few questions/frustrations
1st, Battery life is killing me... cannot make it through a day, I have put my screen on auto which seems a lot dimmer than set to 40 or 60%. All I do is play some solitaire, check mail a lot, a little bit of net, maybe 30 minutes of calls (tops) a few txt msgs, with maybe 2 hours or slightly more of screen time.
External speaker is embarrassing... tried showing a video to a friend with an iphone and felt like flushing the damn phone after he did the same.
Data connectivity is still hit and miss... one minute I have 4 bars of 4G and the next I have none.
I am on (details in sig) 4.0.4 (Craig Gomez version) with the newest radios. The device is a serious work tool for me so I really don't have the time to try different ROMS or kernels all the time... I need it always ready for calls, emails and occasional RDP or Logmein sessions .
For those of you have actually tried many/experienced in the world of various ROMs & kernels... do you have a suggestion of what to do with my setup?
Between the battery and data connectivity I feel the phone is close to crap... my friends with Razors have none of these problems and I feel like I am ready to snap.
BTW... if you could be even more kind... if you have a suggestion on what to run, could you suggest a brief set of instructions... i.e. nandriod, full wipe, install this first that second...
Thanks for any and all help... I sure would like to come up with or remember a reason why I have this and not a razor max.
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Autobrightness will kill your battery more than a static 40 or 60%.
2 hours of screen on time seems normal for the Verizon Nexus.
Try the volume + app for your speaker problems.
There are some kernels that have sound boosts built in.
Signal drops means you should exchange the phone. Use the insurance.
Honestly if you hate the phone as much as it sounds, just get a different phone.

joshnichols189 said:
Autobrightness will kill your battery more than a static 40 or 60%.
2 hours of screen on time seems normal for the Verizon Nexus.
Try the volume + app for your speaker problems.
There are some kernels that have sound boosts built in.
Signal drops means you should exchange the phone. Use the insurance.
Honestly if you hate the phone as much as it sounds, just get a different phone.
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Perfect response.

Don't get me wrong... I in no way "hate" phone, if I did I would have gotten rid of it.
I'm frustrated not stupid.
I am amazed that Verizon hasn't done something about it... most of the buyers of this phone are not IT savvy rooters... my phone works a lot better than stock, I cannot imagine how frustrated someone on 4.0.2 would be.
Anyway... I am going to take it back to stock and return it... guess I will try it (the new one) out stock but I know I will want it rooted. Guess I'll try some of the suggested software\ROMS.
I wonder what a stock one is coming with these days?

veloslave said:
Don't get me wrong... I in no way "hate" phone, if I did I would have gotten rid of it.
I'm frustrated not stupid.
I am amazed that Verizon hasn't done something about it... most of the buyers of this phone are not IT savvy rooters... my phone works a lot better than stock, I cannot imagine how frustrated someone on 4.0.2 would be.
Anyway... I am going to take it back to stock and return it... guess I will try it (the new one) out stock but I know I will want it rooted. Guess I'll try some of the suggested software\ROMS.
I wonder what a stock one is coming with these days?
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I never called you stupid.
Stock phones will 99% come with 4.0.2 but like I said, they don't all have the problems you have.. except low speaker volume.
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joshnichols189 said:
I never called you stupid.
Stock phones will 99% come with 4.0.2 but like I said, they don't all have the problems you have.. except low speaker volume.
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Anyone that would keep a phone they hate would have to be stupid
Well... things just changed again.
Just talked with Verizon and he asked if I installed the update pushed out on the 25th? I told him I will give it a shot and get back to them.
Anyone got instructions for reverting back to stock?

veloslave said:
Anyone that would keep a phone they hate would have to be stupid
Well... things just changed again.
Just talked with Verizon and he asked if I installed the update pushed out on the 25th? I told him I will give it a shot and get back to them.
Anyone got instructions for reverting back to stock?
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Check the stickies in the dev forum
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Another battery life thread, they are justified!

Ok, I will keep this short. I have had my GNEX for a couple months now and have been on a quest for the best battery life I can get. My boss has the Razr (not the MAXX!) and when we travell together, he can go all day with plenty of battery left. Granted he is on stock and I am rooted but I usually underclock to squeeze more out.
Anyways, with that said and that this is going to be short...
I search and search and search and search and search, you get the point, for threads where this is being discussed. All I EVER find is people talking some ish about Pandas die or something and the mods close it because they say "yes there is a best one, its the one that works for you". Serioiusly? WTF. What does that gain us, besides everyone (the ones on the outside looking in and the ones on the inside looking out alike) wasting their time.
With that said, here is my point. I understand that everyone has different scenarios for what is going on and everyone has different agendas. But for most people here, they have had their phones long enough to use the same apps, do the same stuff day in and day out that when THEY try different ROMs they can report their findings. Like me for example I have had my best results with AOKP but I only tried Liquid and Xenon other than that and only Leankernel and Trinity so far. Now if someone else came along and said they saw THEIR best battery life on ROM X and Kernel Y and they tried my combination, it would give me a jump start. After all isnt that the point of a community? Besides people beating their chests about pandas?

Rofl, pandas die. Also, this has been done many times in the past, everyone totes different combinations. It's almost pointless, the only reason you don't see all sorts of opinions on these threads it's because people recognize how much of a waste of time it is. I cannot tell you how much "you're mileage may vary" actually comes into play here. You just have to flash what you want to use, and often times, the effect of ROM on battery life does nothing but you perceive it as being helpful, because you enjoy the experience of the ROM, this "placebo" effect also haunts the forums. So the only thing you can be sure of, is when your battery life it's considerably worse than before, just wipe, flash new rom/kernel and try again.
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The reason he can go all day is because his phone has an extended battery. I think its like 3000mah or something. If you have the gsm version its only 1750 do the math of course his going to out last yours. There is no best ROM for battery. Or kernel. Its how you configure said ROM or kernel. If you want a setup to go buy visit the link in my SIG about my Franco setup. I get relatively great battery life as anyone that knows me will tell you. Also manage your networks. Do you toggle data when not in use? Do you have things syncing? How often? What apps are running in the foreground as well as the background?
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ÜBER™ said:
The reason he can go all day is because his phone has an extended battery. I think its like 3000mah or something. If you have the gsm version its only 1750 do the math of course his going to out last yours. There is no best ROM for battery. Or kernel. Its how you configure said ROM or kernel. If you want a setup to go buy visit the link in my SIG about my Franco setup. I get relatively great battery life as anyone that knows me will tell you. Also manage your networks. Do you toggle data when not in use? Do you have things syncing? How often? What apps are running in the foreground as well as the background?
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The normal RAZR has 3000mAh??
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Fire n mage said:
The normal RAZR has 3000mAh??
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Oops I'm sorry read that wrong.
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danman421 said:
Ok, I will keep this short. I have had my GNEX for a couple months now and have been on a quest for the best battery life I can get. My boss has the Razr (not the MAXX!) and when we travell together, he can go all day with plenty of battery left. Granted he is on stock and I am rooted but I usually underclock to squeeze more out.
Anyways, with that said and that this is going to be short...
I search and search and search and search and search, you get the point, for threads where this is being discussed. All I EVER find is people talking some ish about Pandas die or something and the mods close it because they say "yes there is a best one, its the one that works for you". Serioiusly? WTF. What does that gain us, besides everyone (the ones on the outside looking in and the ones on the inside looking out alike) wasting their time.
With that said, here is my point. I understand that everyone has different scenarios for what is going on and everyone has different agendas. But for most people here, they have had their phones long enough to use the same apps, do the same stuff day in and day out that when THEY try different ROMs they can report their findings. Like me for example I have had my best results with AOKP but I only tried Liquid and Xenon other than that and only Leankernel and Trinity so far. Now if someone else came along and said they saw THEIR best battery life on ROM X and Kernel Y and they tried my combination, it would give me a jump start. After all isnt that the point of a community? Besides people beating their chests about pandas?
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1) the razr screen is not the same as the GN. there are more pixels per inch on the GN than the razr.
2) you can never have the best combination. every phone is different. my verizon gnex i had cant handle overclocking past 1.4Ghz. ive seen threads on this forum where people have gotten to 1.8Ghz.
what works for you, will not always work for me and vice versa.

Go to location settings and uncheck Google's location service and GPS satellites. Open app drawer and navigate to the settings widget, long press to put on homescreen, select Location services when prompted for widget type (so that you can quickly turn those on for Maps or Navigation.
Presto, decrease idle battery draw from 2 to 3% per hour to 2% every three hours.

ÜBER™ said:
Oops I'm sorry read that wrong.
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Lol I was about to say XD
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Thread fail.
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i think its time for them to know the benefits of the silk covered battery.
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