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8525 WM6 cingular exchange

so i just called to have a new 8525 sent out. Im running black 2.0 cingy....what do you guys think will happen? will cingular try to power on the phone and see its running wm6? will that qualify as voiding the warrenty? do you think they will charge me for the phone?

rzanology said:
so i just called to have a new 8525 sent out. Im running black 2.0 cingy....what do you guys think will happen? will cingular try to power on the phone and see its running wm6? will that qualify as voiding the warrenty? do you think they will charge me for the phone?
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That wasn't the greatest idea you may have had before.
If they do turn it on, they will void your warranty. So, from what I've heard they will more than likely charge you full price for the replacement. ($600 or whatever it is now).
You really should have re-flashed your phone before sending it in... just pray they don't power it up.
(and if you bricked your phone from improperly flashing it, that's the risk you take from modding your phone, and you should have just taken one for the team.)
Good luck!

If you have not sent it in yet, re-flash with the Cingular ROM. Otherwise you will get a bill for $600.00

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If you have not sent it in yet, re-flash with the Cingular ROM. Otherwise you will get a bill for $600.00
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I agree with this, but the problem is, where is the original CINGULAR ROM? The "Cingular" ROM posted in the Wiki section of this site is actually an at&t branded ROM. The ROM that came on my 8525 purchased only a few weeks ago (and subsequent replacement) had a Cingular branded ROM (Cingy logo bootscreen, no anmiated boot, Cingy logo/background/icons on the Today Screen, etc.).
I was having issues with the backlighting on my phone so I took it up the Cingy store to have it exchanged. I tried everything I could do to keep the sales rep from booting up the phone, but he did and then couldn't understand how I got an at&t branded O/S on it. Luckily, one of the other sales reps said "Hey, look... We just got in a new Razr with the at&t badge and O/S!!". The sales rep I was dealing then said "Yeah, this guy's 8525 has an at&t O/S as well, but he bought his a couple weeks ago...". Needless to say, I played dumb and quickly made a mad dash for the door with my replacement handset before they could ask any further questions.
Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??

egypt123 said:
I agree with this, but the problem is, where is the original CINGULAR ROM? The "Cingular" ROM posted in the Wiki section of this site is actually an at&t branded ROM. The ROM that came on my 8525 purchased only a few weeks ago (and subsequent replacement) had a Cingular branded ROM (Cingy logo bootscreen, no anmiated boot, Cingy logo/background/icons on the Today Screen, etc.).
I was having issues with the backlighting on my phone so I took it up the Cingy store to have it exchanged. I tried everything I could do to keep the sales rep from booting up the phone, but he did and then couldn't understand how I got an at&t branded O/S on it. Luckily, one of the other sales reps said "Hey, look... We just got in a new Razr with the at&t badge and O/S!!". The sales rep I was dealing then said "Yeah, this guy's 8525 has an at&t O/S as well, but he bought his a couple weeks ago...". Needless to say, I played dumb and quickly made a mad dash for the door with my replacement handset before they could ask any further questions.
Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??
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LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is im pretty sure im done for if i send it back with out flashing it...they'll turn it on and see a nice scary pic of spawn...no where to get out of that one.

egypt123 said:
Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??
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Well Cingular = AT&T now so as long as it was a released AT&T rom you are good, though I am guessing it wasn't. You can download the roms by going to www.cingular.com clicking on support (make sure 8525 is your phone) then click on HTC site link.
Once there select cingular as the carrier and 8525 as the model, click software/downloads
and click download.
Easy.

rzanology said:
LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is
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Here is the "official" cingular ROM currently released to the public .. straight from the HTC support website.
Now, whether you can simply run the RUU and re-install this over Black 2.0, I am not really sure ... others will have to weigh-in on that one.

Or goto htcamerica.net and all the carrier roms are on there too.

Allright,
as with the last poster, go to www.htcamerica.net and reflash. Because as a cingular representative, I can tell you that there is a 50/50 chance not in your favor that they'll deny your warranty exchange and send you a $600 phone bill.

rzanology said:
LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is
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I have a feeling one of the fine folks on this site will know here to get it if you can wait a little bit before sending it in. If not, I'd at least flash it down to the at&t/Cingy WM5 ROM. At least it will be their ROM and the correct WM release. You can play dumb like I did if they question you about it. Just say that's how it came from the store. If they push you on it, say something like, "First, I'm offend by your perveted comment!!! I have no idea what 'flashing' or this ROM you speak of is. Second, are you telling your store sold me a used phone?? Well then I either want a replacement ASAP of I want all charges refunded immediately!!". Push it back on them.
You should be fine putting the old version on. I worked for me at least...

Wow, I guess I'm sloooow to pull the trigger. Lot of answers already.
Yes, I know Cingular = at&t. However, that didn't keep the Cingular rep from questioning why/how I had an at&t branded ROM. I assume the phones with the at&t ROM will have the at&t brand/logo on the shell. Not a Cingular logo on the shell with the at&t ROM. I assume this would waive a red flag to the warranty repair folks...

egypt123 said:
I have a feeling one of the fine folks on this site will know here to get it if you can wait a little bit before sending it in. If not, I'd at least flash it down to the at&t/Cingy WM5 ROM. At least it will be their ROM and the correct WM release. You can play dumb like I did if they question you about it. Just say that's how it came from the store. If they push you on it, say something like, "First, I'm offend by your perveted comment!!! I have no idea what 'flashing' or this ROM you speak of is. Second, are you telling your store sold me a used phone?? Well then I either want a replacement ASAP of I want all charges refunded immediately!!". Push it back on them.
You should be fine putting the old version on. I worked for me at least...
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LMAO!!! you're crazy man lol. well...well i got the rom available. so when the new phone comes i'll try to flash it and see what happens. it'll be here in a day or two.

If you've flashed HardSPL, you'll also need to downgrade to the stock Cingular SPL 1.06.

Just got one
rzanology said:
LMAO!!! you're crazy man lol. well...well i got the rom available. so when the new phone comes i'll try to flash it and see what happens. it'll be here in a day or two.
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I recieved a replacement 8525 from Cingular over the weekend. It was branded Att from the warranty dept. So use that excuse if you need. However, i really like the getting offended method. Good Luck!

Here you go.
http://rapidshare.com/files/27707683/HTC_TyTn_Cingular8525_CWS_1_34_502_1_WWE.zip.html

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If you've flashed HardSPL, you'll also need to downgrade to the stock Cingular SPL 1.06.
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That was the other piece I was forgetting ... if folks really want to get their device back to its out of the box crappy state.
Since I have never tried to downgrade my SPL, I am not really sure how to do it (though I bet the answer is on the wiki).

weinson said:
That was the other piece I was forgetting ... if folks really want to get their device back to its out of the box crappy state.
Since I have never tried to downgrade my SPL, I am not really sure how to do it (though I bet the answer is on the wiki).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1188690&highlight=downgrade#post1188690
Olipro said:
you can get round it with SSPL; flash 1.10Olipro onto your phone with SSPL then you may downgrade to whatever you wish
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well good luck with returning it... i cant do it with mine since i didn't buy it from them and don't have the correct data plan. not that i need to anyway since i have a better rom

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301219
This helped me out alot when I had to Downgrade when I sent my phone in for MFGW work.
There is a STEP BY STEP Guide to down grade to WM5 (orig cingy) and then read more of the thread and it will tell you what you need to do to get the SPL back to orig cingy too. Same should go for IPL if you managed to upgrade that as well.

I just upgraded to the 8525 what should I do first?

I upgraded from 8125 to the 8525 and would like to upgrade the rom to wm6. I would like extra memory. I'm staying with cingular/ATT and plan on just swapping my sim card. Do I have to unlock my phone? What do I need to do and which rom is the latest/best w/most free memory and still ATT friendly. Thanks. I've read through the post, but I'm a little overwhelmed.
Chris

You want a good rom that is AT&T friendly, I would say vp3gs rom hands down.

welcome to the 8525. start here...lot's of good info and reading. then let us know if U still have specific questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325748

You knw ive seen alot of first post were people dont knw what they want they state basic things like whats the best rom, how do I upgrade, ect. I was really suprised to find that you knew what you wanted and look you got some good advice, Im glad to know that even though this community tends to flame noobs that if you ask your question correctly that you will get the information you request. Way to go.

noellenchris said:
I upgraded from 8125 to the 8525 and would like to upgrade the rom to wm6. I would like extra memory. I'm staying with cingular/ATT and plan on just swapping my sim card. Do I have to unlock my phone? What do I need to do and which rom is the latest/best w/most free memory and still ATT friendly. Thanks. I've read through the post, but I'm a little overwhelmed.
Chris
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Having been in your exact place just a few short weeks ago, i'll tell you my experience. The very first thing I did was upgrade to Hard SPL v7. From my reading, this is essential to keep from bricking your phone. Although it's not fool proof, but it makes it much harder to mess everything up. I looked around and read all the different threads on all the ROMs. From looking at the pictures and reading the info on each one, I decided on VP3G 3.60 as it's an official ATT rom with some extras. I also switched radios a couple of times to find the one that gave me the best reception for my area, which ended up being 1.50. I didn't unlock my phone unless updating to any of the above did that. There is a site that goes through each install window and tells you what to choose, but I can't seem to find it right now. I don't full understand all of this stuff but i'm slowly learning it. Good luck on your updates and hope it goes as smoothly as mine has.
Axis

Right now I'm running dutty's ultralite http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329642 I started with Black, then went to some others and like VPG quite a bit, then tried TNT, then Cyphol's Gold, and finally I'm at the ultralite stage as I found that a lot of them just had stuff I didn't want/need and I preferred to take care of all of that myself (you'll determine that on your own though).
Definitely get HardSPL, and just play around with some of the main ROMs, the ultralites will have more memory by definition, but you may find that some are just too bare bones.
With regards to walkthrough's look at mrvanx's site, http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/ he has a ton of great walkthroughs that are ROM specific. Should get you started quite nicely.

Install HardSPL
Install vp3G's WM6 AT&T Rom

If you picked up retail less then 30 days ago, take it back and pick up a 8925/Tilt.
-pd

Thanks so much for the quick replies. My phone will be here on Tuesday, I ordered a refurbished. I will post an update w/shipped rom when it get's here. I waited for the Tilt to come out so they would clearance the 8525. I got my 8125 for $79 and now the 8525 for $99. Not bad I guess. Well I think I will try vp3gs first. I think if I try the Ultralight's, I have to unlock the memory area or something correct me if I'm wrong. W/Vp3gs rom, it should be like flashing a new rom from AT&T. But I will follow the directions to Hard-SPL first then to VP3Gs. Thanks again. Will post more on Wednesday.
Chris

Ok, followed all the directions in the forums. Everything went perfect. Very easy. I now have VP3Gs latest and upgraded the radio to 1.54.07. Everything works. I've added my old software. Found out that SPB Pocket Plus 4.0 brings the Hermes to a halt so I installed 3.2. I like the tabs on my today screen and the task switcher better than the HTC. Battery life seems a little less than the 8125. I think it's a little less than with 1.43 radio. I'm in central NJ and I didn't seem to notice a different between the two radios. My phone came with an old version of everything. I think the radio was 1.16 or something. Anyhow I will post more later. Thanks again everyone for the advice. Still shocked at how easy it was.
Chris

Before doing anything to your 8525; Research Research RESEARCH!
The last thing you want to do is put anything on your new phone right away. I know you want WM6 and probably can't wait to get it on your phone. First you need to research as much as possible until you feel comfortable, really comfortable with what you are planning to do.
I have vp3G's WM6 on my 8525. I waited and researched threads for over 2 weeks before commiting to it. So far so good I have to say. Read this guide first, it'll give you a good idea of what you will be doing. I'm not trying to tell you whats best here, I'm new to this too and just want to give you a heads up. Beware of people who tell you what they think is best for your phone, especially when they don't bother to tell you why.
Good luck, you're going to like your new 8525, although after sending back my original phone for a keyboard issue I went through 2 remanufactured 8525's before AT&T finally shipped me a brand new one. The screens on the reman'd ones kept locking up .
Dr. Jay

newbie question

well ive just got a o2 exec locked to o2,now ive been looking to see how i go about getting it unlocked and running mobile6,how do i go about it the easy way as iam all new to this rom thing.cheers all

Hmmmm your is locked? Mine never was....
Ok never mind. all you need is in the wiki and in particular This page for removing the Sim Lock.
Have fun with your Exec. it's a wicked bit of kit.
Regards
Psi

iam still abit lost with all the stuff on there.
is there a easy way to put wm6 on it..

i'm a noob 2 but i just dl active sync 4.5 then got jwrites latest rom, pluged my mda into the cpu and excuted jwrites rom, waited a few min a blam, my phone has been my best friend. My wife wants me to do her mda pro now, thats how good it is. ohh backup your contacts and old rom i didn't but i don't care now hahhaha. goodluck

o2xdaexec said:
iam still abit lost with all the stuff on there.
is there a easy way to put wm6 on it..
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Yes.
Unlock it, then flash with the WM6 rom of your choice.
Read and inwardly digest from the links in my above post and you'll be fine.
If you think it's all above your head or your too scared to do it then either leave alone or find someone near to you that's technically minded to help.
Psi

right i think ive done it...
put on jwrites rom its mint took a bit to do but its on and working,one thing though its very slow takes ages to open up apps.could just be me,but hats off to all u guys on here.thanks and i will recommend this website to others.

right just unistalled skype and its mega quick so looks like it slows it down abit.cheers again

now no wifi???

Radio with Ricky's Rom SuX

Has anyone else noticed this?
My internet speed goes from 1/5 to 1/3 of what it used to be, and the latency is also worse (I tested)...
And my signal is awful/nonexistent in places where it was fine with the Rogers WM6 ROM...
Is there anything I can do? Or should I just wait for the TMo WM6.1 ROM? When's that coming?

I'm with Rogers as well man and the latest ROM is amazing! Full signal - no problem.

Can you give me a link to the lastest and greatest Rogers ROM? Or similiar/better? And about my Q's in the first post...

But Roggers ROM is on WM6.0...
I am With Last Kavana's rom with WM6.1 - best ROM ever for me.
Many programs, many features, super fast.

But the radio is the same as Ricky's, isn't it? Isn't it bad...
WHY DOESN'T ANYONE actually answer my questions...
You all just post random 1 liners...

Radio
grim1234 said:
But the radio is the same as Ricky's, isn't it? Isn't it bad...
WHY DOESN'T ANYONE actually answer my questions...
You all just post random 1 liners...
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HEY DUMB ASS IF YOU REAd THE FORUM AND SEARCHED:
You would know that the radio is not updated just the rom if your radio is the _07 your good to go

grim1234 said:
But the radio is the same as Ricky's, isn't it? Isn't it bad...
WHY DOESN'T ANYONE actually answer my questions...
You all just post random 1 liners...
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Dude we are not some service .
No radio problems with new Kavana-s ROM - that's all

my radio is the same as kavanas rom

And evething is working fine in my S620 too, good speed, no lockups...

grim1234 said:
But the radio is the same as Ricky's, isn't it? Isn't it bad...
WHY DOESN'T ANYONE actually answer my questions...
You all just post random 1 liners...
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ur an ass.

superminipoo said:
ur an ass.
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^^ lol good answer to his question

I do not get the same speed every day and neither will you.... Blame it on the clouds or solar flares or aliens.......

vwgtiron said:
HEY DUMB ASS IF YOU REAd THE FORUM AND SEARCHED:
You would know that the radio is not updated just the rom if your radio is the _07 your good to go
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you guys don't have to be such @$$holes about it... geez
listen guy, all you need to do is wrap your mobile in heavy duty aluminum foil (note: it must be heavy duty or it will not work) and place in your icebox for 60-72 hours...
after that you will be good to go!

When I first got my S621 from Rogers last May with WM5 on it the phone was great, hardly ever had to reboot it for anything. I have had nothing but problems after I upgrade to Rogers 6.0 ROM. With full signal I would not be able to make calls and would first to try reset the phone service through comm manager, which would rarely work, but usually have to reboot the phone, at times often. Due to this problem I even had the phone replaced which did nothing. So far since I installed Ricky's V7 ROM I've had better battery life and have yet to reboot my phone due to not being able to make a call.
In short, I don't see an issue with the Radio or the ROM.

my speed on t-mo seems like its slowed down since i went with rickys from rogers also, my signal itself seems ok and i dont drop calls-maybe miss a word once in awhile but anyways...
does anyone mind telling me if the radio can be improved in any way?(yes im a noob and i really dont know the first thing to look for, but im just asking a simple yes or no question) sorry i dont have luck SEARCHING

I've determined that consistency doesn't exist.

he has everyone right to be an @sshole. how about before you go and say that rickys rom or radio sucks, you ask around first. maybe you are just a moron and its user error? the dude busts his ass to make us cool **** for our phones and you start a thread like this? i wouldnt, nor will i, help you at all. learn some people skills. all i can picture is a 7 year old whining "whaaaaaaaaaa ricky's rom sucks! whhhhhhh"
GO MAKE YOUR OWN THEN.

I'm all Set
Poser said:
you guys don't have to be such @$$holes about it... geez
listen guy, all you need to do is wrap your mobile in heavy duty aluminum foil (note: it must be heavy duty or it will not work) and place in your icebox for 60-72 hours...
after that you will be good to go!
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OK look you can look for Mikey1022 posts, look at his sig--see the mediafire link at the bottom--click on that --click on ROMS-you can see all the radios that have been posted recently. Download a couple of them and see what happens, if the old radio works for you then your good and dandy--or as they say in New England, NOW YOUR ALL SET ASS. Hows that for one liners?
Heres the link
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a1e428ed720bdf418c9e7c56ba37815f8d6dc55236f5978e

Bwaaaaa ha ha ha

Ok, I'll make my own.
Whereabouts on the ROM is the radio stored? It's not just the radio.dll, right?

Keyboard issue after upgrading to NFSFAN's current 6.5 ROM

Hey all. I've upgraded to NFSFAN's newest rom - which is really sweet!! - but I'm having an issue with the keyboard. I can only access it in landscape mode; whenever I push the tiny button in portrait mode (which is the mode I usually use), nothing happens. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

ShakespearesEdge said:
Hey all. I've upgraded to NFSFAN's newest rom - which is really sweet!! - but I'm having an issue with the keyboard. I can only access it in landscape mode; whenever I push the tiny button in portrait mode (which is the mode I usually use), nothing happens. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Sigh, sorry for this but same question for you as the other fella with "keypad" probs.
Do you have the HTC Vogue (CDMA version of the touch)?
this ROM may be generic (non-carrier specific) but it is meant for ONLY the Vogue.
IF you do have the Vogue, did you follow the reccomended upgrade procedure?
1. Flash the ROM from bootloader mode
2. Hard reset
3. Run your carrier GPS reg.cab UNLESS your with Bell Mobility
If not, reflash and follow the recomended procedure, it cures many "wierd" issues.

don't waste your money,
hold out for another month and get the diamond2-has micro sd slot,
or the touchpro2.

codybear said:
don't waste your money,
hold out for another month and get the diamond2-has micro sd slot,
or the touchpro2.
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No kidding,
I'm waiting for them as well. Just want to "feel" both when their in store to decide. I carry my Vogue in my pocket and will probably continue with that.
To bad NFSFAN got the first gen TP. I know there was a "get NFSFAN a TP" fund going on in another forum. Don't know if that's why. He did mention waiting for an HTC phone with the tegra chip. I really want my next phone to be one NFSFAN has as well, tried LOTS of ROMS, play a while then go back to his!!
For 24/7 stable use there just ain't anything better.

Yeah, I guess that maybe I'll wait for the others to come out, then. I do like the Touch, but its screen is a little too small and it's not very fast....

Wow, I must say that I'm surprised to see the iPhone winning in this poll!!

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No kidding,
I'm waiting for them as well. Just want to "feel" both when their in store to decide. I carry my Vogue in my pocket and will probably continue with that.
To bad NFSFAN got the first gen TP. I know there was a "get NFSFAN a TP" fund going on in another forum. Don't know if that's why. He did mention waiting for an HTC phone with the tegra chip. I really want my next phone to be one NFSFAN has as well, tried LOTS of ROMS, play a while then go back to his!!
For 24/7 stable use there just ain't anything better.
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Yeah, I hope to learn everything I can from him and his vogue roms.
When the necessary stuff comes out to build roms for a
cdma version of the touch pro2 I'll definitely be
spending 99% of my time on building a siiick rom for that.
ShakespearesEdge said:
Wow, I must say that I'm surprised to see the iPhone winning in this poll!!
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It's winning only because no one is really voting. haha.