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8525 WM6 cingular exchange

so i just called to have a new 8525 sent out. Im running black 2.0 cingy....what do you guys think will happen? will cingular try to power on the phone and see its running wm6? will that qualify as voiding the warrenty? do you think they will charge me for the phone?

rzanology said:
so i just called to have a new 8525 sent out. Im running black 2.0 cingy....what do you guys think will happen? will cingular try to power on the phone and see its running wm6? will that qualify as voiding the warrenty? do you think they will charge me for the phone?
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That wasn't the greatest idea you may have had before.
If they do turn it on, they will void your warranty. So, from what I've heard they will more than likely charge you full price for the replacement. ($600 or whatever it is now).
You really should have re-flashed your phone before sending it in... just pray they don't power it up.
(and if you bricked your phone from improperly flashing it, that's the risk you take from modding your phone, and you should have just taken one for the team.)
Good luck!

If you have not sent it in yet, re-flash with the Cingular ROM. Otherwise you will get a bill for $600.00

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If you have not sent it in yet, re-flash with the Cingular ROM. Otherwise you will get a bill for $600.00
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I agree with this, but the problem is, where is the original CINGULAR ROM? The "Cingular" ROM posted in the Wiki section of this site is actually an at&t branded ROM. The ROM that came on my 8525 purchased only a few weeks ago (and subsequent replacement) had a Cingular branded ROM (Cingy logo bootscreen, no anmiated boot, Cingy logo/background/icons on the Today Screen, etc.).
I was having issues with the backlighting on my phone so I took it up the Cingy store to have it exchanged. I tried everything I could do to keep the sales rep from booting up the phone, but he did and then couldn't understand how I got an at&t branded O/S on it. Luckily, one of the other sales reps said "Hey, look... We just got in a new Razr with the at&t badge and O/S!!". The sales rep I was dealing then said "Yeah, this guy's 8525 has an at&t O/S as well, but he bought his a couple weeks ago...". Needless to say, I played dumb and quickly made a mad dash for the door with my replacement handset before they could ask any further questions.
Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??

egypt123 said:
I agree with this, but the problem is, where is the original CINGULAR ROM? The "Cingular" ROM posted in the Wiki section of this site is actually an at&t branded ROM. The ROM that came on my 8525 purchased only a few weeks ago (and subsequent replacement) had a Cingular branded ROM (Cingy logo bootscreen, no anmiated boot, Cingy logo/background/icons on the Today Screen, etc.).
I was having issues with the backlighting on my phone so I took it up the Cingy store to have it exchanged. I tried everything I could do to keep the sales rep from booting up the phone, but he did and then couldn't understand how I got an at&t branded O/S on it. Luckily, one of the other sales reps said "Hey, look... We just got in a new Razr with the at&t badge and O/S!!". The sales rep I was dealing then said "Yeah, this guy's 8525 has an at&t O/S as well, but he bought his a couple weeks ago...". Needless to say, I played dumb and quickly made a mad dash for the door with my replacement handset before they could ask any further questions.
Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??
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LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is im pretty sure im done for if i send it back with out flashing it...they'll turn it on and see a nice scary pic of spawn...no where to get out of that one.

egypt123 said:
Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??
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Well Cingular = AT&T now so as long as it was a released AT&T rom you are good, though I am guessing it wasn't. You can download the roms by going to www.cingular.com clicking on support (make sure 8525 is your phone) then click on HTC site link.
Once there select cingular as the carrier and 8525 as the model, click software/downloads
and click download.
Easy.

rzanology said:
LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is
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Here is the "official" cingular ROM currently released to the public .. straight from the HTC support website.
Now, whether you can simply run the RUU and re-install this over Black 2.0, I am not really sure ... others will have to weigh-in on that one.

Or goto htcamerica.net and all the carrier roms are on there too.

Allright,
as with the last poster, go to www.htcamerica.net and reflash. Because as a cingular representative, I can tell you that there is a 50/50 chance not in your favor that they'll deny your warranty exchange and send you a $600 phone bill.

rzanology said:
LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is
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I have a feeling one of the fine folks on this site will know here to get it if you can wait a little bit before sending it in. If not, I'd at least flash it down to the at&t/Cingy WM5 ROM. At least it will be their ROM and the correct WM release. You can play dumb like I did if they question you about it. Just say that's how it came from the store. If they push you on it, say something like, "First, I'm offend by your perveted comment!!! I have no idea what 'flashing' or this ROM you speak of is. Second, are you telling your store sold me a used phone?? Well then I either want a replacement ASAP of I want all charges refunded immediately!!". Push it back on them.
You should be fine putting the old version on. I worked for me at least...

Wow, I guess I'm sloooow to pull the trigger. Lot of answers already.
Yes, I know Cingular = at&t. However, that didn't keep the Cingular rep from questioning why/how I had an at&t branded ROM. I assume the phones with the at&t ROM will have the at&t brand/logo on the shell. Not a Cingular logo on the shell with the at&t ROM. I assume this would waive a red flag to the warranty repair folks...

egypt123 said:
I have a feeling one of the fine folks on this site will know here to get it if you can wait a little bit before sending it in. If not, I'd at least flash it down to the at&t/Cingy WM5 ROM. At least it will be their ROM and the correct WM release. You can play dumb like I did if they question you about it. Just say that's how it came from the store. If they push you on it, say something like, "First, I'm offend by your perveted comment!!! I have no idea what 'flashing' or this ROM you speak of is. Second, are you telling your store sold me a used phone?? Well then I either want a replacement ASAP of I want all charges refunded immediately!!". Push it back on them.
You should be fine putting the old version on. I worked for me at least...
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LMAO!!! you're crazy man lol. well...well i got the rom available. so when the new phone comes i'll try to flash it and see what happens. it'll be here in a day or two.

If you've flashed HardSPL, you'll also need to downgrade to the stock Cingular SPL 1.06.

Just got one
rzanology said:
LMAO!!! you're crazy man lol. well...well i got the rom available. so when the new phone comes i'll try to flash it and see what happens. it'll be here in a day or two.
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I recieved a replacement 8525 from Cingular over the weekend. It was branded Att from the warranty dept. So use that excuse if you need. However, i really like the getting offended method. Good Luck!

Here you go.
http://rapidshare.com/files/27707683/HTC_TyTn_Cingular8525_CWS_1_34_502_1_WWE.zip.html

URPREY said:
If you've flashed HardSPL, you'll also need to downgrade to the stock Cingular SPL 1.06.
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That was the other piece I was forgetting ... if folks really want to get their device back to its out of the box crappy state.
Since I have never tried to downgrade my SPL, I am not really sure how to do it (though I bet the answer is on the wiki).

weinson said:
That was the other piece I was forgetting ... if folks really want to get their device back to its out of the box crappy state.
Since I have never tried to downgrade my SPL, I am not really sure how to do it (though I bet the answer is on the wiki).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1188690&highlight=downgrade#post1188690
Olipro said:
you can get round it with SSPL; flash 1.10Olipro onto your phone with SSPL then you may downgrade to whatever you wish
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well good luck with returning it... i cant do it with mine since i didn't buy it from them and don't have the correct data plan. not that i need to anyway since i have a better rom

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301219
This helped me out alot when I had to Downgrade when I sent my phone in for MFGW work.
There is a STEP BY STEP Guide to down grade to WM5 (orig cingy) and then read more of the thread and it will tell you what you need to do to get the SPL back to orig cingy too. Same should go for IPL if you managed to upgrade that as well.

WM5 stuck in bootloader(white screen)

hi. I went to the bootloader screen and I updated my Blueangel. and then i pressed the record and camera buttons and could see the options and then pressed the messaging button but then it gets stuck at the white screen. I can go back to the serial mode update my rom again buit it doesnt change the outcome. Ive read all the posts about mtty with the bootloader ect. I have also tried different ROM downloads but all the ones i try dont work. Any help is appreciated. My parents are being dicks and won't let me use the insurance we have set up cause it costs 50 dollars oh whipppeee thats a lot huh. anyways i cant get another phone so i need to figure this out. Anyone have any ideas?

Did you cooked you own rom? If so, your rom is too big. Try to upgrade to an already made rom or downgrade to wm2003 and try again.

ha i got it taken care of.. i called verizon and theyre sending me a new one for free because its a "software problem" haha my current one had a few scratches on it so were all good!..thanks for your help though lgsilva

laptap16 said:
ha i got it taken care of.. i called verizon and theyre sending me a new one for free because its a "software problem" haha my current one had a few scratches on it so were all good!..thanks for your help though lgsilva
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First off, this kind of thing is one of the reasons M$ cracked down on the site with it's custom ROMs IMO, people causing the carriers too much grief and money replacing phones with corrupted ROMs that the carrier did not provide.
Second, Verizon is CDMA, not GSM. The only WM5 ROM available is for GSM, not CDMA. That's probably why you messed up your phone.

jdc said:
First off, this kind of thing is one of the reasons M$ cracked down on the site with it's custom ROMs IMO, people causing the carriers too much grief and money replacing phones with corrupted ROMs that the carrier did not provide.
Second, Verizon is CDMA, not GSM. The only WM5 ROM available is for GSM, not CDMA. That's probably why you messed up your phone.
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for your first point: shut up and dont be a dbag.
second point: ty thats prolly the reason. I had not thought of that and i will not be trying to update it again.

laptap16 said:
for your first point: shut up and dont be a dbag.
second point: ty thats prolly the reason. I had not thought of that and i will not be trying to update it again.
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Oh, that's original, calling me names.
My point still stands. That kind of thing is probably a large factor of why the carriers complained to microsoft and why microsoft cracked down on sites such as this.
Thanks for being part of the problem.

I just upgraded to the 8525 what should I do first?

I upgraded from 8125 to the 8525 and would like to upgrade the rom to wm6. I would like extra memory. I'm staying with cingular/ATT and plan on just swapping my sim card. Do I have to unlock my phone? What do I need to do and which rom is the latest/best w/most free memory and still ATT friendly. Thanks. I've read through the post, but I'm a little overwhelmed.
Chris

You want a good rom that is AT&T friendly, I would say vp3gs rom hands down.

welcome to the 8525. start here...lot's of good info and reading. then let us know if U still have specific questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325748

You knw ive seen alot of first post were people dont knw what they want they state basic things like whats the best rom, how do I upgrade, ect. I was really suprised to find that you knew what you wanted and look you got some good advice, Im glad to know that even though this community tends to flame noobs that if you ask your question correctly that you will get the information you request. Way to go.

noellenchris said:
I upgraded from 8125 to the 8525 and would like to upgrade the rom to wm6. I would like extra memory. I'm staying with cingular/ATT and plan on just swapping my sim card. Do I have to unlock my phone? What do I need to do and which rom is the latest/best w/most free memory and still ATT friendly. Thanks. I've read through the post, but I'm a little overwhelmed.
Chris
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Having been in your exact place just a few short weeks ago, i'll tell you my experience. The very first thing I did was upgrade to Hard SPL v7. From my reading, this is essential to keep from bricking your phone. Although it's not fool proof, but it makes it much harder to mess everything up. I looked around and read all the different threads on all the ROMs. From looking at the pictures and reading the info on each one, I decided on VP3G 3.60 as it's an official ATT rom with some extras. I also switched radios a couple of times to find the one that gave me the best reception for my area, which ended up being 1.50. I didn't unlock my phone unless updating to any of the above did that. There is a site that goes through each install window and tells you what to choose, but I can't seem to find it right now. I don't full understand all of this stuff but i'm slowly learning it. Good luck on your updates and hope it goes as smoothly as mine has.
Axis

Right now I'm running dutty's ultralite http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329642 I started with Black, then went to some others and like VPG quite a bit, then tried TNT, then Cyphol's Gold, and finally I'm at the ultralite stage as I found that a lot of them just had stuff I didn't want/need and I preferred to take care of all of that myself (you'll determine that on your own though).
Definitely get HardSPL, and just play around with some of the main ROMs, the ultralites will have more memory by definition, but you may find that some are just too bare bones.
With regards to walkthrough's look at mrvanx's site, http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/ he has a ton of great walkthroughs that are ROM specific. Should get you started quite nicely.

Install HardSPL
Install vp3G's WM6 AT&T Rom

If you picked up retail less then 30 days ago, take it back and pick up a 8925/Tilt.
-pd

Thanks so much for the quick replies. My phone will be here on Tuesday, I ordered a refurbished. I will post an update w/shipped rom when it get's here. I waited for the Tilt to come out so they would clearance the 8525. I got my 8125 for $79 and now the 8525 for $99. Not bad I guess. Well I think I will try vp3gs first. I think if I try the Ultralight's, I have to unlock the memory area or something correct me if I'm wrong. W/Vp3gs rom, it should be like flashing a new rom from AT&T. But I will follow the directions to Hard-SPL first then to VP3Gs. Thanks again. Will post more on Wednesday.
Chris

Ok, followed all the directions in the forums. Everything went perfect. Very easy. I now have VP3Gs latest and upgraded the radio to 1.54.07. Everything works. I've added my old software. Found out that SPB Pocket Plus 4.0 brings the Hermes to a halt so I installed 3.2. I like the tabs on my today screen and the task switcher better than the HTC. Battery life seems a little less than the 8125. I think it's a little less than with 1.43 radio. I'm in central NJ and I didn't seem to notice a different between the two radios. My phone came with an old version of everything. I think the radio was 1.16 or something. Anyhow I will post more later. Thanks again everyone for the advice. Still shocked at how easy it was.
Chris

Before doing anything to your 8525; Research Research RESEARCH!
The last thing you want to do is put anything on your new phone right away. I know you want WM6 and probably can't wait to get it on your phone. First you need to research as much as possible until you feel comfortable, really comfortable with what you are planning to do.
I have vp3G's WM6 on my 8525. I waited and researched threads for over 2 weeks before commiting to it. So far so good I have to say. Read this guide first, it'll give you a good idea of what you will be doing. I'm not trying to tell you whats best here, I'm new to this too and just want to give you a heads up. Beware of people who tell you what they think is best for your phone, especially when they don't bother to tell you why.
Good luck, you're going to like your new 8525, although after sending back my original phone for a keyboard issue I went through 2 remanufactured 8525's before AT&T finally shipped me a brand new one. The screens on the reman'd ones kept locking up .
Dr. Jay

Keyboard issue after upgrading to NFSFAN's current 6.5 ROM

Hey all. I've upgraded to NFSFAN's newest rom - which is really sweet!! - but I'm having an issue with the keyboard. I can only access it in landscape mode; whenever I push the tiny button in portrait mode (which is the mode I usually use), nothing happens. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

ShakespearesEdge said:
Hey all. I've upgraded to NFSFAN's newest rom - which is really sweet!! - but I'm having an issue with the keyboard. I can only access it in landscape mode; whenever I push the tiny button in portrait mode (which is the mode I usually use), nothing happens. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Sigh, sorry for this but same question for you as the other fella with "keypad" probs.
Do you have the HTC Vogue (CDMA version of the touch)?
this ROM may be generic (non-carrier specific) but it is meant for ONLY the Vogue.
IF you do have the Vogue, did you follow the reccomended upgrade procedure?
1. Flash the ROM from bootloader mode
2. Hard reset
3. Run your carrier GPS reg.cab UNLESS your with Bell Mobility
If not, reflash and follow the recomended procedure, it cures many "wierd" issues.

don't waste your money,
hold out for another month and get the diamond2-has micro sd slot,
or the touchpro2.

codybear said:
don't waste your money,
hold out for another month and get the diamond2-has micro sd slot,
or the touchpro2.
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No kidding,
I'm waiting for them as well. Just want to "feel" both when their in store to decide. I carry my Vogue in my pocket and will probably continue with that.
To bad NFSFAN got the first gen TP. I know there was a "get NFSFAN a TP" fund going on in another forum. Don't know if that's why. He did mention waiting for an HTC phone with the tegra chip. I really want my next phone to be one NFSFAN has as well, tried LOTS of ROMS, play a while then go back to his!!
For 24/7 stable use there just ain't anything better.

Yeah, I guess that maybe I'll wait for the others to come out, then. I do like the Touch, but its screen is a little too small and it's not very fast....

Wow, I must say that I'm surprised to see the iPhone winning in this poll!!

jmitr said:
No kidding,
I'm waiting for them as well. Just want to "feel" both when their in store to decide. I carry my Vogue in my pocket and will probably continue with that.
To bad NFSFAN got the first gen TP. I know there was a "get NFSFAN a TP" fund going on in another forum. Don't know if that's why. He did mention waiting for an HTC phone with the tegra chip. I really want my next phone to be one NFSFAN has as well, tried LOTS of ROMS, play a while then go back to his!!
For 24/7 stable use there just ain't anything better.
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Yeah, I hope to learn everything I can from him and his vogue roms.
When the necessary stuff comes out to build roms for a
cdma version of the touch pro2 I'll definitely be
spending 99% of my time on building a siiick rom for that.
ShakespearesEdge said:
Wow, I must say that I'm surprised to see the iPhone winning in this poll!!
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It's winning only because no one is really voting. haha.

[Q] Is HOX a bad phone? Thinking of returning

This is my first Android phone. I had iPhone, 3g, and 4 before grabbing the One X. I thought spec wise this phone is amazing, I love the screen and camera so much and ICS finally made Android as smooth if not smoother than iPhones with GPU acceleration. Now I am having issues that's making me think about returning it.
Issues
-Pandora randomly skips songs and buffers a lot
-No lock screen controls on Pandora
-Bought two games on the Play store (Worms & GTA3), they do not work
-The main home screen (the one that it goes to when you hit the home button), changes on me, and nobody seems to know how to set it.
-If you use a pattern screen lock, you still have to slide the ring open before you can do the pattern
Are these Android issues or One X issues? Do you think they will get solved, and how soon? I have 9 days to return this, seriously considering it and just using my iPhone 4 until the new iPhone comes out. Any and all opinions are appreciated.
Thanks
Other
If you felt like reading more... I absolutely love the HOX. The screen is gorgeous and such a pleasure to use. I love the camera as well, it takes amazing pictures, and they looks great on said gorgeous screen. I really want to like this phone, but some of these issues are deal breakers for me and worry me about just putting up with issues like these for two years.
/edit Posted in wrong section, this is an AT&T variant. Can't see where to delete this, so a mod can move it or I suppose it's mostly relevant here.

I would return my phone if the battery life was extremely poor, too much lag, too many bugs or screen flickering. Not cause there no lock screen controls for pandora or you have to unlock the ring after a password. But if those are deal breakers for you then yes, you should return it.

To be honest, this is an amazing phone, it is beautiful, fast and smooth.
To optimize it however, I would suggest rooting it and using a custom rom, which might (just might, don't know for sure) fix your homescreen problem, and for the Pandora and the games you bought, try un-installing and re-installing, if that doesnt work ; email the developers asking for help or answers, I emailed before for 'ISyncr' and got a reply and a fix in less than 2 hours.
Also, for the pull the ring before pattern, im sure on an iphone you haveto slide it before you can put it in number to unlock? Hope this helps

Thanks for the replays. since I want to like this phone so much, I'll try to.root it tomorrow. I work tomorrow so it will be later.
Not sure if I'll get an answer here, but if I root and try some roms will I be able to return it to stock and return it? as I said above, I'm on the AT&T one x.

Valitri said:
Thanks for the replays. since I want to like this phone so much, I'll try to.root it tomorrow. I work tomorrow so it will be later.
Not sure if I'll get an answer here, but if I root and try some roms will I be able to return it to stock and return it? as I said above, I'm on the AT&T one x.
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You're in the wrong forum, go to the AT&T and Rogers One X forum because it is specialized and the AT&T One X has many subtle details that must be followed compared to the HTC One X.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
You're in the wrong forum, go to the AT&T and Rogers One X forum because it is specialized and the AT&T One X has many subtle details that must be followed compared to the HTC One X.
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Quoting myself...
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So being a good xda noob, should I go create another thread while this one is still open? I don't know why they don't have the option to delete your own threads, especially when I had no replies on it.