Hi guys, I found my old nexus 7.. how can I increase the performance of this beautiful tablet? I loved it when it was new (a lot of time ago) and now I'd like to renovate it to use it on 2021.. some suggestions?
You can replace its software with Lineage OS providing Android 10 or 11, but be aware of the fact that the performance of the Nexus 7 will be somewhat slow due to the fact that it only has 2 GB of RAM built in.
neilth said:
You can replace its software with Lineage OS providing Android 10 or 11, but be aware of the fact that the performance of the Nexus 7 will be somewhat slow due to the fact that it only has 2 GB of RAM built in.
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Do you think android 10/11 is better for performance? Or is it better something lighter like an old rom? (Maybe android 5/6)
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Do you think android 10/11 is better for performance? Or is it better something lighter like an old rom? (Maybe android 5/6)
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Well it won't run as fast as a tab s7, but android 10/11 is definitely fine as long as you have quad core.
There are also loads of ultracheap phones that also have android 11, quad core, and 2 GB ram. So nexus 7 will be capable of running it.
If it is too slow for you you can always flash back to the stock rom 5.1 lollipop from google.
You can try lowering the screen resolution. For me a lot of times the gpu was a bottleneck when scrolling or even some simple puzzle games lag.
With lower resolution the smoothness increase quite a bit. You can experiment with resolution changer
Edit: I'm on Android 9 AEX with ElementalX kernel with GPU freq at 450 mhz. Many older games didn't have any resolution scaler setting and loved to run at native res so you have to use this workaround to get better performance
Root it And add swap memory and overclock the CPU (you can use the app App2sd) and it will run much much faster. Ive tried almost every rom there is for the nexus 7 and while 10 and 11 work you can certainly feel the "weight" on the system and the newer versions of android take up more space on your device. A LOT of space actually , I would recommend either 6 for for speed or 9 if you want the newest possible
I run LOS 18.1 official on my N7 2013; have been for ages. Admittedly, it's not the fastest system on the face of the planet, but it runs well and performs better than I expected it would.
I find after a reboot (which I very rarely need to do), it's best to leave the N7 for a few minutes to fully boot up and sort itself out. Once that's done, it runs quite nicely. Amazing that such an old device (8 years old) can run the latest ROMs (try that on a Windows PC!) and perform as well as it does.
I returned to the stock android 6 rom (rooted + elemntalx kernel) and the battery life is incredible (compared to the other roms) I didn't expect that! I downloaded the elementalx app to change kernel settings, some suggestion on what to change to increase a bit the performance?
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I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus and it has AOKP build 25 with Fugomod kernel on it and this thing still is laggy. I tried many different roms and kernels and it still lags. I'm pretty sure my GSII was faster.
Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram.
What's the deal? Why is it lagging (stock keyboard, browsing, app drawer, etc)
And I'm not trying to "bash". I want to keep the phone but the slowness is frustrating.
UPDATE 2/27/11 - I wiped my phone and flashed the Apex 1.02 Rom and now the phone is really fast. Some occasional hiccups but not a big deal.
I'm a very happy GN owner now.
You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..
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You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..
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I accidentally posted it in a thread I was reading.
You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.
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You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.
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So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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I came from an E4GT and my GN feels just as fast.
Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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OMG MEGAHERTZ PROCESSOR RACE!!1
I don't quite get it. Is this a pissing contest? The Gnex runs way fast for a cellphone.
Maybe I'm getting old.
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So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?
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Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.
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I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.
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Unsure about that poster's experience, but 18.4 is awesome for me, and so far synergises really well with CM9.
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So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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You said:
"Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram."
That is so far outside the norm that you are either trolling, have a defective device or flashed and did something so screwed up that its messing with your device. So either:
1. Do a complete wipe, including formatting data, cache, dalvik and system. Install AOKP, gaaps with trinity kernel (basic one for all devices). Reboot. Download auto start manager and kill anything like maps or talk that you don't want running at startup. Go into settings and set cpu to 1.2, 400mhz with on demand or performance scaling. Set on boot checked. Reboot. Then tell me the phone is slow.
2. Don't use live wall paper. Most of them are not optimized for ICS
3. Return your device and get another one its broken.
My laptop is faster than your GSII.
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Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?
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because google knows this is already powerful enough and the only place that it would make a difference is in benchmarks. Remember the nexus is the reference phone the developers are supposed to base their applications on. So in theory all app should run perfectly on all nexus devices. Basically any app made in 2012 should run perfectly on this phone. Think of it this way this is the minimum hardware requirements for apps and if a manufacturer goes beyond the specs its all gravy basically bragging rights but realistically this device has more than enough power to handle what google intended it for.
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I'll play since I've recently made the jump as well and I think I'm coming in with an "unbiased" opinion. Keep in mind I'm much happier with my GN than I was with my I9100, which I'm also keeping at least until kernel source is released for ICS. Using CM9 on the Nexus and using CM9 on the SGSII, no comparison for me, Nexus wins, hands down as far as fluidity and feel goes, ignoring the fact that so many things still don't work on the SGSII.
There are ever so slight cpu and gpu advantages that I've noticed on the SGSII. Very occasionally might be felt as a lag or stutter. For the most part however I find the GN "smoother" over all. Alternative launchers (Nova) lag for me on the GN going in/out of the app drawer, but removing widgets from the app drawer cured that. I may have to wait an extra second, maybe two, for the desktop to be fully fluid following a boot. I've never experienced keyboard lag, or alike.
In the end however, I didn't buy the GN because I thought it would kill the SGSII performance wise and the specs didn't lead me to believe that would be the case. A couple of non-performance or Android related things I really appreciate are the feel of the phone in my hand, and the action of the buttons. What I used to jokingly refer to as the "panty liner shape" of the phone is comfortable in my pocket.
It might take some more kernel experimenting on your part to find one that feels good for you. When I was on AOKP I found Leankernel to be absolutely buttery. Slight cpu/gpu advantages aside, I feel that the GN is the better phone overall and it's still a bloody fast unit, and my next device will be a Nexus as well. I'd say 95% of the time the phone feels as fast, and potentially more fluid, than my old phone.
So this year we're gonna have all these new quad core phones coming out which is great, but when the new version of android comes out we will get it right away and all those new quad core phones will be waiting up to a year to get it and by then the new version of android will be out yet again. You don't get a nexus phone for it's powerful processor look for it support and long term commitment. I had 5 android phones in the last year and I will never get anything other then a nexus because of all the stress I had trying to get updates for my other phones. My last phone the optimus 3 d was a very good phone butwe just got gingerbread a few weeks ago and lg is saying we will get ice cream sandwich in the third quarter f 2012. By then my nexus phone will probably have the new version of android. And I'm sure that lg will be dropping support for that phone because they'll have a new 1 out. But my nexus phone will most likely be supported through 2013.
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The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^
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The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^
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Not quite. Not sure about the exact memory channel speed but they both utilize same exact memory setup dual channel LPDDR2
OMAP was the SoC that Google chose
It's essentially a terrible choice with grossly outdated gpu in a platform where GPU will start to drive every day operation
This isn't to say that Mali400MP setup is the greatest in the GPU choice but eventhough it's inefficient, it's able to push through with raw power
I may get a bit of flake for this but Nexus does micro-stutter in some instances in places like the stock app drawer (this is addressed with nova launcher but question was does the GNex stutter).
I wouldn't blame the slight lagginess or stutters on the hardware just yet seeing how ICS is still fairly new and there is also the issue with maturity of apps running ICS.
Thanks guys for your responses. I'm not trying to be a pain; just annoyed that my old phone felt smoother.
I installed Apex rom and so far it feels very fast so hopefully it will stay this way. I kept the kernel that was packaged with the rom.
Another reason I thought it was slow was because I would type on the desktop site of XDA. Using the app doesn't cause the keyboard lag. It still is strange why the keyboard would lag like that while posting on XDA.
I bought this game recently on sale and installed on my brand-new Nexus 7 (32GB with 3G). However, graphics seems blurred - like it was set for low quality, or prepared to run on lower resolution. That's strange, because all menus and main menu are normal. The problem is that there is no graphics settings in NFS. Is there any possibility of changing graphics to sharp? I'm running CyanogenMod 10.1 nightlies. On my Galaxy S3 (CyanogenMod 10) everything is OK - smooth with sharp edges.
Was thinking about purchasing it today but I'm not if this a reoccurring problem for people. Has this happened to anyone else?
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I bought this game recently on sale and installed on my brand-new Nexus 7 (32GB with 3G). However, graphics seems blurred - like it was set for low quality, or prepared to run on lower resolution. That's strange, because all menus and main menu are normal. The problem is that there is no graphics settings in NFS. Is there any possibility of changing graphics to sharp? I'm running CyanogenMod 10.1 nightlies. On my Galaxy S3 (CyanogenMod 10) everything is OK - smooth with sharp edges.
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What kernel are you running?
Try metalice A25 with the GPU clock at 666. Should fix it.
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I'm not having any issues. I've heard people having issues with non-stock kernels with this game. That may be your problem.
I didn't install any custom kernel, it's running on CM one (screenshot attached). I prefer original CM kernel to custom ones. I'll try tweaking settings in performance tab.
EDIT: Nothing interesting in performance settings.
Yea I remember reading it has something g to do with the higher CPU max on custom kernels that makes the graphics like that.. I've only been able to have it right on bone stock from google even on stock cm I had the issue
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Yea I remember reading it has something g to do with the higher CPU max on custom kernels that makes the graphics like that.. I've only been able to have it right on bone stock from google even on stock cm I had the issue
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But in CM kernel doesn't have overclocked frequencies, max one is 1300. What's more, cars in garage and before race are showed in full quality, nice and with sharp edges. After starting the race graphic becomes blurry.
No problems for me, it's always ran smooth. Running PA2.50 w/ franco.Kernel r25. No overclocked CPU or GPU
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AFAIK, there is no franco kernel for 3G version and I doubt that version for non-cellular Nexus works with cellular one. Anyone knows what can be done to increase quality without changing ROM (CM 10.1) and kernel?
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I downloaded it the other day but I've yet to play the game on mine. I use AOKP with the stock kernel, so hopefully I don't have these problems.
I just hate how it uses 2GB of space when the description only says it needs 550MB!
After a few weeks of running the official Marshmallow update on my T700 I can state for certain that there is an observable drop in framerate for my games. I primarily use the tablet to play games and this is a deal breaker for me, thus a solution must be found. There is currently no custom kernel compatible with the stock MM TouchWiz, nor there seem to be any root app to OC the GPU and tone down thermal throttling (assuming this is tuned up in MM as my tablet used to run hotter in Lollipop and with higher framerate).
So the question to all is: is your Tab S running games worse after the MM update than before?
Have you tried the ASOP Vanilla version of MM, I was running this before the official touchwiz MM was released, I am not a gamer but people say it runs faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...android-6-marshmallow-tab-s-10-5-lte-t3219759
John.
What I did was to get the stock Rom posted by Ashyx, unzip it and do some debloating, then re-zip and install it.
It runs way too hot and slow with the complete Rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/rom-t705-t700-marshmallow-6-0-1-port-t3456698
well i run the ressurection rom on my tab S 10.5 but to honest the performance of the tab S is so weak since lollipop, all the app such as dead trigger 2 , asphalt nitro , modern combat 5 and more run so badly and those are ugly on tab S due to his resolution of 2560x1600 which is completely gimp the tab and drain the batterie so fast. I don't understand back when the TAB S was release in 2014 this tablet was a gaming machine now its a lagg machine. The only way we could get better performance is to wait for a kernel such as ironkernel or phoenix kernel or even skyhigh kernel to be release on a rom then dl it oc the cpu and gpu and then go playing or download android lollipop and take either ironrom or phoenix rom but even tho the games look terrible on lollipop even worst than on kitkat so yeah we're screwed thanks samsung.
I agreed that for playing games, choosing this tablet over nvidia shield definitely feels like a mistake now. But upgrading to MM should have improved the situation, not worsen it... Game Tuner app that drops down resolution in gaming apps supposedly helps with performance, but it doesn't really. I think the answer to my problem should really be a new tablet that has a hardware spec friendly to gaming, but I can't find one with size similar to the Tab S that isn't EoL (like the Shield Tablet).
there is huawei mediapad M3 8.4
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Have you tried the ASOP Vanilla version of MM, I was running this before the official touchwiz MM was released, I am not a gamer but people say it runs faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...android-6-marshmallow-tab-s-10-5-lte-t3219759
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Thanks. I'm running this ROM now. Battery is hotter and it drains faster... but my games have normal framerate now like it was on lollipop. Samsung definitely did something sinister with thermal throttling in the MM build.
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there is huawei mediapad M3 8.4
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Looking into that now... the specs are otherwise good except the chipset being kirin... not sure how much dev support the device is going to get >.<
Good day,
I have done a lot of searching and have found ways to get better performance but I really need maximum performance for the app I am running to reduce lag.
I have the 2013, rooted on marshmallow and elementalx installed.
The max I can get is 450 on the gpu and 1890 on the CPU. And faster and I get constant reboots.
It doesn't matter if I need a custom Rom I'm prepared to do whatever necessary to get the best performance. Battery life isn't important.
Thanks,
Mike
skiiermike said:
Good day,
I have done a lot of searching and have found ways to get better performance but I really need maximum performance for the app I am running to reduce lag.
I have the 2013, rooted on marshmallow and elementalx installed.
The max I can get is 450 on the gpu and 1890 on the CPU. And faster and I get constant reboots.
It doesn't matter if I need a custom Rom I'm prepared to do whatever necessary to get the best performance. Battery life isn't important.
Thanks,
Mike
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fifthelement.trimmer
This one app made the absolute biggest difference. It literally made my Nexus 7 refreshed like it was a new tablet. Now anytime I get a N7, the first thing I do is root, and install this app. Seriously blew my mind how butter smooth everything became.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
That is another app of the same thing. Both work fine, do same thing. I Like the first one I posted personally.
Give it a shot, lmk if it helped.
Seems to have helped thanks so much for the response. I'll know forsure in the next few days.
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Hi!
So I did a speed test to see how much faster my OP3 would be and to my surprise in all games that I tried it was about 20% slower to load than my s6. (both units running their newest stock OS with no crazy mods or anything) The games tried were: Temple Run 2, Subway Surfers & Asphalt 8. The op3 does well in storage benchmarks and in regular benchmarks as well. (144k antutu) What could be the reason?
Those game have to load higher resolution textures in the op3 probably
Try arter97's kernel and ROM, games will load much faster than on stock OOS, maybe slightly faster than on your galaxy S6. It is mostly because of samsung's sdcardfs.
obliverationiser said:
Those game have to load higher resolution textures in the op3 probably
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the Galaxy S6 has a resolution of 1440 x 2560 and the OP3 of 1080 x 1920 ...
Dariusdd said:
Try arter97's kernel and ROM, games will load much faster than on stock OOS, maybe slightly faster than on your galaxy S6. It is mostly because of samsung's sdcardfs.
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Oxygen Camera app & dng raw shooting from within it are more important to me than speed. I was just wondering if this behavior is normal. Would the Arter kernel work with stock?
I should probably mention that I have done storage benchmarks on the s6 as well & although I know that it's very difficult the measure the real performance of solide state memory, it appears to me that the OP3's beats the s6's easily.
Different software (mostly kernel), simple as that.
Arter's kernel will NOT work with OOS, it's for CM only. It does load stuff a lot faster indeed, but it's security is ... well, non-existent (won't go into technical details, search about "selinux" if you're interested).
I'd suggest reformatting your data partition to f2fs and using blu_spark kernel, should speed things up a bit.
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Explorer23 said:
Different software (mostly kernel), simple as that.
Arter's kernel will NOT work with OOS, it's for CM only. It does load stuff a lot faster indeed, but it's security is ... well, non-existent (won't go into technical details, search about "selinux" if you're interested).
I'd suggest reformatting your data partition to f2fs and using blu_spark kernel, should speed things up a bit.
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blu_spark with f2fs does nothing I didn't see any real world performance improvement.
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the Galaxy S6 has a resolution of 1440 x 2560 and the OP3 of 1080 x 1920 ...
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What... Changing the resolution doesn't change the texture resolution haha. The OP3 uses a higher end GPU so the games themselves use better quality textures/other graphical effects when detecting the better hardware.
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Hi!
So I did a speed test to see how much faster my OP3 would be and to my surprise in all games that I tried it was about 20% slower to load than my s6. (both units running their newest stock OS with no crazy mods or anything) The games tried were: Temple Run 2, Subway Surfers & Asphalt 8. The op3 does well in storage benchmarks and in regular benchmarks as well. (144k antutu) What could be the reason?
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If you are running on the current release of Oxygen OS this is normal. The load times are worse because the system is formatted in ext4. If you flash the latest community build for the OP3, you get the updated system in f2fs which is blazing fast. Games that took between 30-45 seconds to load, only take 10-15 seconds now on my device. Be aware that you need to format your device in order to change it to f2fs.
If you don't feel like moving to the community builds, just wait until the end of the month or early December for the official update. I suppose you'll have to format the system either way otherwise you'll be stuck in ext4.
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Not reall,. ios is faster loading games. If u want same res then try the 6s+ and will notice that it will still lpad much faster. Developer really optimize their games for ios, they load faster and run better. I
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Not reall,. ios is faster loading games. If u want same res then try the 6s+ and will notice that it will still lpad much faster. Developer really optimize their games for ios, they load faster and run better. I
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OP was talking about Samsung galaxy S6 not iphone