Marshmallow update degrades gaming performance? - Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After a few weeks of running the official Marshmallow update on my T700 I can state for certain that there is an observable drop in framerate for my games. I primarily use the tablet to play games and this is a deal breaker for me, thus a solution must be found. There is currently no custom kernel compatible with the stock MM TouchWiz, nor there seem to be any root app to OC the GPU and tone down thermal throttling (assuming this is tuned up in MM as my tablet used to run hotter in Lollipop and with higher framerate).
So the question to all is: is your Tab S running games worse after the MM update than before?

Have you tried the ASOP Vanilla version of MM, I was running this before the official touchwiz MM was released, I am not a gamer but people say it runs faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...android-6-marshmallow-tab-s-10-5-lte-t3219759
John.

What I did was to get the stock Rom posted by Ashyx, unzip it and do some debloating, then re-zip and install it.
It runs way too hot and slow with the complete Rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/rom-t705-t700-marshmallow-6-0-1-port-t3456698

well i run the ressurection rom on my tab S 10.5 but to honest the performance of the tab S is so weak since lollipop, all the app such as dead trigger 2 , asphalt nitro , modern combat 5 and more run so badly and those are ugly on tab S due to his resolution of 2560x1600 which is completely gimp the tab and drain the batterie so fast. I don't understand back when the TAB S was release in 2014 this tablet was a gaming machine now its a lagg machine. The only way we could get better performance is to wait for a kernel such as ironkernel or phoenix kernel or even skyhigh kernel to be release on a rom then dl it oc the cpu and gpu and then go playing or download android lollipop and take either ironrom or phoenix rom but even tho the games look terrible on lollipop even worst than on kitkat so yeah we're screwed thanks samsung.

I agreed that for playing games, choosing this tablet over nvidia shield definitely feels like a mistake now. But upgrading to MM should have improved the situation, not worsen it... Game Tuner app that drops down resolution in gaming apps supposedly helps with performance, but it doesn't really. I think the answer to my problem should really be a new tablet that has a hardware spec friendly to gaming, but I can't find one with size similar to the Tab S that isn't EoL (like the Shield Tablet).

there is huawei mediapad M3 8.4

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Have you tried the ASOP Vanilla version of MM, I was running this before the official touchwiz MM was released, I am not a gamer but people say it runs faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...android-6-marshmallow-tab-s-10-5-lte-t3219759
John.
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Thanks. I'm running this ROM now. Battery is hotter and it drains faster... but my games have normal framerate now like it was on lollipop. Samsung definitely did something sinister with thermal throttling in the MM build.
edan1979 said:
there is huawei mediapad M3 8.4
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Looking into that now... the specs are otherwise good except the chipset being kirin... not sure how much dev support the device is going to get >.<

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Tegra 3 performance

Hey guys,
I wonder if the so called gaming SoC will get any better in terms of gaming performance with further updates from HTC. At the moment the games run barely as good as on my SGS2. I know..the resolution of the HOX is twice as high but the games graphics ar getting better and I cant even play NOVA 3 with my 'gaming device'... There is a way to make it a bit less laggy with new Base and franco kernel but it's still far away from beeing smooth. What I want to ask you is: Is there still potential for tegra 3 to run those games smooth and it's just a matter of time till an update comes that improves the framerates or is it just hardware limited? Are there other Tegra 3 devices which can run these games without any issues? I'm hoping that the 3.* kernel will improve something but actually I have no clue.
well u have to look at this from the point of view of the game/software/hardware
the one game u mentioned is not HOX compatible,
it's been force run on the device.... so as far as this go..... you'll need to wait for the game to be T3 optimized
software optimizations are still underway from both xda devs and htc.... and as u see they are getting better by the day
and finally not much to say about the hardware but... its more than capable just give it time.
ossy1337 said:
Hey guys,
I wonder if the so called gaming SoC will get any better in terms of gaming performance with further updates from HTC. At the moment the games run barely as good as on my SGS2. I know..the resolution of the HOX is twice as high but the games graphics ar getting better and I cant even play NOVA 3 with my 'gaming device'... There is a way to make it a bit less laggy with new Base and franco kernel but it's still far away from beeing smooth. What I want to ask you is: Is there still potential for tegra 3 to run those games smooth and it's just a matter of time till an update comes that improves the framerates or is it just hardware limited? Are there other Tegra 3 devices which can run these games without any issues? I'm hoping that the 3.* kernel will improve something but actually I have no clue.
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Is it normal that my old s6 loads games faster?

Hi!
So I did a speed test to see how much faster my OP3 would be and to my surprise in all games that I tried it was about 20% slower to load than my s6. (both units running their newest stock OS with no crazy mods or anything) The games tried were: Temple Run 2, Subway Surfers & Asphalt 8. The op3 does well in storage benchmarks and in regular benchmarks as well. (144k antutu) What could be the reason?
Those game have to load higher resolution textures in the op3 probably
Try arter97's kernel and ROM, games will load much faster than on stock OOS, maybe slightly faster than on your galaxy S6. It is mostly because of samsung's sdcardfs.
obliverationiser said:
Those game have to load higher resolution textures in the op3 probably
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the Galaxy S6 has a resolution of 1440 x 2560 and the OP3 of 1080 x 1920 ...
Dariusdd said:
Try arter97's kernel and ROM, games will load much faster than on stock OOS, maybe slightly faster than on your galaxy S6. It is mostly because of samsung's sdcardfs.
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Oxygen Camera app & dng raw shooting from within it are more important to me than speed. I was just wondering if this behavior is normal. Would the Arter kernel work with stock?
I should probably mention that I have done storage benchmarks on the s6 as well & although I know that it's very difficult the measure the real performance of solide state memory, it appears to me that the OP3's beats the s6's easily.
Different software (mostly kernel), simple as that.
Arter's kernel will NOT work with OOS, it's for CM only. It does load stuff a lot faster indeed, but it's security is ... well, non-existent (won't go into technical details, search about "selinux" if you're interested).
I'd suggest reformatting your data partition to f2fs and using blu_spark kernel, should speed things up a bit.
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Explorer23 said:
Different software (mostly kernel), simple as that.
Arter's kernel will NOT work with OOS, it's for CM only. It does load stuff a lot faster indeed, but it's security is ... well, non-existent (won't go into technical details, search about "selinux" if you're interested).
I'd suggest reformatting your data partition to f2fs and using blu_spark kernel, should speed things up a bit.
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blu_spark with f2fs does nothing I didn't see any real world performance improvement.
=dave= said:
the Galaxy S6 has a resolution of 1440 x 2560 and the OP3 of 1080 x 1920 ...
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What... Changing the resolution doesn't change the texture resolution haha. The OP3 uses a higher end GPU so the games themselves use better quality textures/other graphical effects when detecting the better hardware.
Gabbbbbbb said:
Hi!
So I did a speed test to see how much faster my OP3 would be and to my surprise in all games that I tried it was about 20% slower to load than my s6. (both units running their newest stock OS with no crazy mods or anything) The games tried were: Temple Run 2, Subway Surfers & Asphalt 8. The op3 does well in storage benchmarks and in regular benchmarks as well. (144k antutu) What could be the reason?
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If you are running on the current release of Oxygen OS this is normal. The load times are worse because the system is formatted in ext4. If you flash the latest community build for the OP3, you get the updated system in f2fs which is blazing fast. Games that took between 30-45 seconds to load, only take 10-15 seconds now on my device. Be aware that you need to format your device in order to change it to f2fs.
If you don't feel like moving to the community builds, just wait until the end of the month or early December for the official update. I suppose you'll have to format the system either way otherwise you'll be stuck in ext4.
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Those game have to load higher resolution textures in the op3 probably
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Not reall,. ios is faster loading games. If u want same res then try the 6s+ and will notice that it will still lpad much faster. Developer really optimize their games for ios, they load faster and run better. I
eduardmc said:
Not reall,. ios is faster loading games. If u want same res then try the 6s+ and will notice that it will still lpad much faster. Developer really optimize their games for ios, they load faster and run better. I
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OP was talking about Samsung galaxy S6 not iphone

Zuk Z2 Custom ROM for 3D gamers

I play 3d games with my z2 (mortal Kombat x and Injustice 2 in particular). I'm not really familiar with kernel tweaking and overclocking and I actually don't want to be.
I'm out on a search for a custom ROM for this device that has the smoothest performance for 3d gaming with the highest battery efficiency. The best ROM in those terms i have tried, was cosmicOS 7.1.1 on which i had 6h SOT with 2h of high smoothness 3d gaming (when it went 7.1.2 those perks were lost though).
I have tried almost every ROM out there and i didn't find something to amaze me (but of course many of them were tried on previous builds and i can't switch ROMs every time one of them gets updated)
I'm currently on ViperOS which satisfied me in terms of customzation and performance but not that much for its battery life and maintenance has also stopped.
So.. any 3d gamers out there have any suggestions?
Update: After flashing AEX 4.4 i can say all my needs are covered. The versions before had a heating issue, some battery drain and some lagging on 3d games. These aren't there any more.
It's now the most satisfying ROM out there and on a high speed race towards perfection since everything else is smooth like butter too.
I got 5h sot with 1:30h of 3d gaming.
If anyone's having the same expectations don't hesitate for a second, go ahead for AEX
sotosgolf said:
Update: After flashing AEX 4.4 i can say all my needs are covered. The versions before had a heating issue, some battery drain and some lagging on 3d games. These aren't there any more.
It's now the most satisfying ROM out there and on a high speed race towards perfection since everything else is smooth like butter too.
I got 5h sot with 1:30h of 3d gaming.
If anyone's having the same expectations don't hesitate for a second, go ahead for AEX
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Stock kernel?
[email protected] said:
Stock kernel?
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Stock kernel.
Using only greenify with agressive doze feature on. Nothing else
sotosgolf said:
Stock kernel.
Using only greenify with agressive doze feature on. Nothing else
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Ok thanks
I am on latest ZUI(haven't unlocked yet) and play Marvel future fight a LOT...3-4 hours minimum and have to recharge the phone twice in 24 hours. Performance is so-so, sometimes would lag but rectify itself after game restart. Heats a lot. I tried the overclock feature in ZUI which increases heat beyond comfort but doesn't add anything to performance.
why dont you try to use AKT profiles? You can find a reasonable performance profile when play games, then set it to powersaving when not playing
pipyakas said:
why dont you try to use AKT profiles? You can find a reasonable performance profile when play games, then set it to powersaving when not playing
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I'm not really fond of tweaking. I believe they cause higher drain than they should when on performance and higher laggyness than they should when on powersave.
Besides, i don't find it handy to change AKT all the time, i'll most of the time forget about it
Thank you though!
Any update? I finally sold my LG G5 and decided to unlock ZUK 2's bootloader. My requirements are same as OP except I want best of audio quality too. So AEX is the ROM to go for and install ARISE?
n00b_dr0id said:
Any update? I finally sold my LG G5 and decided to unlock ZUK 2's bootloader. My requirements are same as OP except I want best of audio quality too. So AEX is the ROM to go for and install ARISE?
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AEX 4.5 is dope. There has to be something major for it to lose first place among the others
Ok, i have to update this.
ViperOS 3.0 came out and it's 3d gaming performance is astonishing. Its battery consumption while using is great too. This build doesn't go into deep sleep but, if it's fixed with an update, it will become exactly the ROM for 3d gamers.
AEX EAS unofficial is also Released (which i'm using currently and not changing easily) and it's, for me, perfect. Great battery, amazing smoothness and response, bugless and with much higher performance on 3d gaming than official AEX.
My opinion on 3d gaming is based upon performance on Mortal Kombat X and Injustice 2. Injustice 2 is exactly on the verge when I switch ROMs. Some let it run smoothly and some make it cut frames. Those two let the phone run it really smoothly (with ViperOS being just a shred better)
i faced lags in 8 ball pool with viper 3 aex 4.5 and some other roms out there ...atomic os was the best for me in terms of gaming and battery life but didn't have the camera updated so now back to official stock zui.
I installed AEX, it's much smoother than stock but ANTUTU score is lower than stock. Backup is not as good as stock either. Marvel future fight even at lowest settings cut frames.
I installed 3.5 citrus from miju12 and never actually left it. The 3d gaming performance combined with no heat and good battery is incomparable.
I've tried RR, jaguar, aex and pixel experience from oreo but nothing satisfied me.
Can anyone share an Oreo ROM to play some games?
in gaming performance most oreo roms do the job fine
sotosgolf said:
I installed 3.5 citrus from miju12 and never actually left it. The 3d gaming performance combined with no heat and good battery is incomparable.
I've tried RR, jaguar, aex and pixel experience from oreo but nothing satisfied me.
Can anyone share an Oreo ROM to play some games?
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Give a try to AOSIP latest build.
Anyone playing PUBG?
IgorIgor84 said:
Anyone playing PUBG?
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me am on aex 5.3 stock kernel no mod .. temprature rise to 47 c there is heating absolutly i use cpu thermometer to monitor heating
sotosgolf said:
I installed 3.5 citrus from miju12 and never actually left it. The 3d gaming performance combined with no heat and good battery is incomparable.
I've tried RR, jaguar, aex and pixel experience from oreo but nothing satisfied me.
Can anyone share an Oreo ROM to play some games?
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Yes, flashed this rom, no heating, smooth, good battery, awesome gaming, was looking for this type of great rom. Thanks!

Best rom for PUBG

Which rom is best for PUBG or other high end games?
What about 9.0 roms for gaming ?
A ROM wouldn't magically upgrade your hardware. it will stay the same S820/821. PubG is a high-end modern game not particularly optimized for our device and is primarily meant for latest phones. You can make it run lag free using pubg gfx tools and lowering resolution of game to 720p or HD+.
Skydragon ROM or latest 5.0.7 oxygen
msm extended
Oos 4.5.1 yes it's nougat but I clan play on highest possible settings with pubgfx app + I played one game and phone was hot though
I used to have constant overheating and frequent frame drops with the older versions of the game a few months back.
But after the 0.9 update, the game runs quite smooth on the quick performance mode on LOS 15.1 on my OP3
I play on low graphics and high frame rate settings btw.
i am on stock. but i want to know any custom rom is better then stock? in terms of performance and graphics.
Skydragon os... Try it
Kaleem_qadir said:
i am on stock. but i want to know any custom rom is better then stock? in terms of performance and graphics.
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For me, stock OOS has been most stable and performance friendly for PubG. Also, the device doesn't heat that much as compared to custom Pie roms.
Also, something that many people ignore here are GPU drivers. Pie custom ROMs ship with v330 of adreno drivers whereas OOS ships with V281 i guess, It's much more stable and provides steady fps.
I would suggest to use Gfx Tool from play store, lower resolution to HD, 40fps, shadows on, 2x anti aliasing, colorful, balanced graphics. I can play pubg at 40-45 fps for 1-2 hours even while charging.
You can also use the ' Xbooster *root* ' apk to boost up your phone for a smoother gameplay
You can download it from here?
https://m.apkpure.com/xbooster-root-free/com.gagan.free.free.xram/download?from=details
Use mcd kernel with skydragon pie rom... The gameplay is smooth without any fps drop
And no throttling at all

Nexus 7 in 2021

Hi guys, I found my old nexus 7.. how can I increase the performance of this beautiful tablet? I loved it when it was new (a lot of time ago) and now I'd like to renovate it to use it on 2021.. some suggestions?
You can replace its software with Lineage OS providing Android 10 or 11, but be aware of the fact that the performance of the Nexus 7 will be somewhat slow due to the fact that it only has 2 GB of RAM built in.
neilth said:
You can replace its software with Lineage OS providing Android 10 or 11, but be aware of the fact that the performance of the Nexus 7 will be somewhat slow due to the fact that it only has 2 GB of RAM built in.
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Do you think android 10/11 is better for performance? Or is it better something lighter like an old rom? (Maybe android 5/6)
MbareJack said:
Do you think android 10/11 is better for performance? Or is it better something lighter like an old rom? (Maybe android 5/6)
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Well it won't run as fast as a tab s7, but android 10/11 is definitely fine as long as you have quad core.
There are also loads of ultracheap phones that also have android 11, quad core, and 2 GB ram. So nexus 7 will be capable of running it.
If it is too slow for you you can always flash back to the stock rom 5.1 lollipop from google.
You can try lowering the screen resolution. For me a lot of times the gpu was a bottleneck when scrolling or even some simple puzzle games lag.
With lower resolution the smoothness increase quite a bit. You can experiment with resolution changer
Edit: I'm on Android 9 AEX with ElementalX kernel with GPU freq at 450 mhz. Many older games didn't have any resolution scaler setting and loved to run at native res so you have to use this workaround to get better performance
Root it And add swap memory and overclock the CPU (you can use the app App2sd) and it will run much much faster. Ive tried almost every rom there is for the nexus 7 and while 10 and 11 work you can certainly feel the "weight" on the system and the newer versions of android take up more space on your device. A LOT of space actually , I would recommend either 6 for for speed or 9 if you want the newest possible
I run LOS 18.1 official on my N7 2013; have been for ages. Admittedly, it's not the fastest system on the face of the planet, but it runs well and performs better than I expected it would.
I find after a reboot (which I very rarely need to do), it's best to leave the N7 for a few minutes to fully boot up and sort itself out. Once that's done, it runs quite nicely. Amazing that such an old device (8 years old) can run the latest ROMs (try that on a Windows PC!) and perform as well as it does.
I returned to the stock android 6 rom (rooted + elemntalx kernel) and the battery life is incredible (compared to the other roms) I didn't expect that! I downloaded the elementalx app to change kernel settings, some suggestion on what to change to increase a bit the performance?

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