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The Galaxy Nexus, even with roms, is not as fast as the Exynos GSII

I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus and it has AOKP build 25 with Fugomod kernel on it and this thing still is laggy. I tried many different roms and kernels and it still lags. I'm pretty sure my GSII was faster.
Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram.
What's the deal? Why is it lagging (stock keyboard, browsing, app drawer, etc)
And I'm not trying to "bash". I want to keep the phone but the slowness is frustrating.
UPDATE 2/27/11 - I wiped my phone and flashed the Apex 1.02 Rom and now the phone is really fast. Some occasional hiccups but not a big deal.
I'm a very happy GN owner now.

You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..

bk201doesntexist said:
You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..
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I accidentally posted it in a thread I was reading.

You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.

Aridon said:
You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.
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So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.

I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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I came from an E4GT and my GN feels just as fast.

Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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OMG MEGAHERTZ PROCESSOR RACE!!1
I don't quite get it. Is this a pissing contest? The Gnex runs way fast for a cellphone.
Maybe I'm getting old.

crossover37 said:
So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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cablemike01 said:
I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?

psycho2097 said:
Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.

crossover37 said:
I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.
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Unsure about that poster's experience, but 18.4 is awesome for me, and so far synergises really well with CM9.

crossover37 said:
So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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You said:
"Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram."
That is so far outside the norm that you are either trolling, have a defective device or flashed and did something so screwed up that its messing with your device. So either:
1. Do a complete wipe, including formatting data, cache, dalvik and system. Install AOKP, gaaps with trinity kernel (basic one for all devices). Reboot. Download auto start manager and kill anything like maps or talk that you don't want running at startup. Go into settings and set cpu to 1.2, 400mhz with on demand or performance scaling. Set on boot checked. Reboot. Then tell me the phone is slow.
2. Don't use live wall paper. Most of them are not optimized for ICS
3. Return your device and get another one its broken.

My laptop is faster than your GSII.

crossover37 said:
Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?
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because google knows this is already powerful enough and the only place that it would make a difference is in benchmarks. Remember the nexus is the reference phone the developers are supposed to base their applications on. So in theory all app should run perfectly on all nexus devices. Basically any app made in 2012 should run perfectly on this phone. Think of it this way this is the minimum hardware requirements for apps and if a manufacturer goes beyond the specs its all gravy basically bragging rights but realistically this device has more than enough power to handle what google intended it for.
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I'll play since I've recently made the jump as well and I think I'm coming in with an "unbiased" opinion. Keep in mind I'm much happier with my GN than I was with my I9100, which I'm also keeping at least until kernel source is released for ICS. Using CM9 on the Nexus and using CM9 on the SGSII, no comparison for me, Nexus wins, hands down as far as fluidity and feel goes, ignoring the fact that so many things still don't work on the SGSII.
There are ever so slight cpu and gpu advantages that I've noticed on the SGSII. Very occasionally might be felt as a lag or stutter. For the most part however I find the GN "smoother" over all. Alternative launchers (Nova) lag for me on the GN going in/out of the app drawer, but removing widgets from the app drawer cured that. I may have to wait an extra second, maybe two, for the desktop to be fully fluid following a boot. I've never experienced keyboard lag, or alike.
In the end however, I didn't buy the GN because I thought it would kill the SGSII performance wise and the specs didn't lead me to believe that would be the case. A couple of non-performance or Android related things I really appreciate are the feel of the phone in my hand, and the action of the buttons. What I used to jokingly refer to as the "panty liner shape" of the phone is comfortable in my pocket.
It might take some more kernel experimenting on your part to find one that feels good for you. When I was on AOKP I found Leankernel to be absolutely buttery. Slight cpu/gpu advantages aside, I feel that the GN is the better phone overall and it's still a bloody fast unit, and my next device will be a Nexus as well. I'd say 95% of the time the phone feels as fast, and potentially more fluid, than my old phone.

So this year we're gonna have all these new quad core phones coming out which is great, but when the new version of android comes out we will get it right away and all those new quad core phones will be waiting up to a year to get it and by then the new version of android will be out yet again. You don't get a nexus phone for it's powerful processor look for it support and long term commitment. I had 5 android phones in the last year and I will never get anything other then a nexus because of all the stress I had trying to get updates for my other phones. My last phone the optimus 3 d was a very good phone butwe just got gingerbread a few weeks ago and lg is saying we will get ice cream sandwich in the third quarter f 2012. By then my nexus phone will probably have the new version of android. And I'm sure that lg will be dropping support for that phone because they'll have a new 1 out. But my nexus phone will most likely be supported through 2013.
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The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^

TheRiceKing said:
The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^
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Not quite. Not sure about the exact memory channel speed but they both utilize same exact memory setup dual channel LPDDR2
OMAP was the SoC that Google chose
It's essentially a terrible choice with grossly outdated gpu in a platform where GPU will start to drive every day operation
This isn't to say that Mali400MP setup is the greatest in the GPU choice but eventhough it's inefficient, it's able to push through with raw power
I may get a bit of flake for this but Nexus does micro-stutter in some instances in places like the stock app drawer (this is addressed with nova launcher but question was does the GNex stutter).
I wouldn't blame the slight lagginess or stutters on the hardware just yet seeing how ICS is still fairly new and there is also the issue with maturity of apps running ICS.

Thanks guys for your responses. I'm not trying to be a pain; just annoyed that my old phone felt smoother.
I installed Apex rom and so far it feels very fast so hopefully it will stay this way. I kept the kernel that was packaged with the rom.
Another reason I thought it was slow was because I would type on the desktop site of XDA. Using the app doesn't cause the keyboard lag. It still is strange why the keyboard would lag like that while posting on XDA.

Is the PowerVR 540 just to slow for this screen?

Hello,
i am wondering, i have used my Galaxy Nexus for some time now at stock GPU clock and it was not a pleasant experience. I came from a device with the PowerVR540 but only 800x480 (Nexus S).
This phone had no trouble to keep up with rendering stuff, it was fast and (nearly) everything was fluent.
The Galaxy Nexus on the other hand can't keep up with frames in many stock apps at landscape and especially not in the browser..you can see that it drops below the 27 fp/s minimum for the human eye (no discussion about this 27 please).
I have now overclocked my GPU from 307 to 512 mhz, the result: It's like my Nexus S, everything (well, not everything) is sooo fast and it works great.
Is the PowerVR540 in the Galaxy Nexus just to slow for it's 1280x720 screen?

This has been asked many times, the gpu us actually one of the better chips out there. For your apps slowing down all I suggest is updating all your apps to latest version and make sure your running the latest version of your rom if your using Google stock or a custom rom. Youl also find over clocking your gpu will just use more battery for small gain. It was explained better in one if the custom kernel threads. If you ask my opinion Google knows best what hardware to use in their flag ship devices and now I'm running 4.0.4 stock rooted my phone is absolutely perfect.
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I don't know, Google doesn't seem to know their hardware...my apps are up to date but my problems are with stock apps. I have used 2 GN and it was the same on both...lags, lags, lags...maybe some don't notice them (or just ignore them) but it's a horrible experience for me...i am just wondering why this phone isn't using a PowerVR543MP2...

bluefisch200 said:
I don't know, Google doesn't seem to know their hardware...my apps are up to date but my problems are with stock apps. I have used 2 GN and it was the same on both...lags, lags, lags...maybe some don't notice them (or just ignore them) but it's a horrible experience for me...i am just wondering why this phone isn't using a PowerVR543MP2...
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Are you on a custom rom or stock? Stock 4.0.4 rooted has solved a lot of the small lags I found, try updating to it is my advice.
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Stock 4.0.4...it's just that my Nexus S was somehow faster then the Galaxy Nexus...i expect better performance when i upgrade...not the other way around

bluefisch200 said:
Stock 4.0.4...it's just that my Nexus S was somehow faster then the Galaxy Nexus...i expect better performance when i upgrade...not the other way around
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Nexus s has a lot less pixels to push, the resolution is no where near as high so that would be my guess.
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[Q] Gangstar Vegas

Hey, how great is working Gangstar Vegas on your LGOG? Which rom and kernel do you use, do you use oc? I use Vanir 4.3 with Kite Kernel , and sometimes, i've got slight framerate drops (below 25 fps) on Very High details.

It is lagging even on galaxy s4
Snapdragon 800 with adreno 330 gpu is running this game smoothly
Like lg g2 and note 3
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No lag at all here on PSX Pure Speed 4.3 ROM on n4. Maybe its ur ROM?
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BassBlaster said:
No lag at all here on PSX Pure Speed 4.3 ROM on n4. Maybe its ur ROM?
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will this rom boot on my OG? this roms is for nexus 4

banangrg said:
will this rom boot on my OG? this roms is for nexus 4
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No idea. Probably won't work, check OG forums for a speedy rom I guess

banangrg said:
Hey, how great is working Gangstar Vegas on your LGOG? Which rom and kernel do you use, do you use oc? I use Vanir 4.3 with Kite Kernel , and sometimes, i've got slight framerate drops (below 25 fps) on Very High details.
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Working like a charm on stock rom, with high settings, no lag and no fps drops ^.^

jancis201991 said:
Working like a charm on stock rom, with high settings, no lag and no fps drops ^.^
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Yep, but i know that S4 Pro can much more...In my opinion it should be working on Very High (and it's working).
I don't like stock rom, because of thermal throttling (phone makes warm, and cpu drops to 1100mhz), on Vanir 4.3 (one of Oct nightly) phone is a bit cooler. I was using Kite Kernel (4.3 version of course) ,because of better scores in Benchmarks and slight OC (1620 option), the phone wasn't so hot as in stock. But the 1 Nov 2013 is very great build. On "nuclear" kernel (provided with rom) theoretically phone was slower, there were no OC option, but... framerate is much much stable in games, Gangstar is working now without any lags on very high, and...WOW! the phone is cool (never seen cooler OG), there's no thermal throttling, 1,5ghz all the time
My problem is solved

what is that "vanir" rom? and that "nuclear" kernel?

iakoboss7 said:
what is that "vanir" rom? and that "nuclear" kernel?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469951 here it is
sorry writing "nuclear" i mean "3.4.0 cm+ [email protected]"
anyway, it's works better than cm kernel fro unnoficial cm port

banangrg said:
Yep, but i know that S4 Pro can much more...In my opinion it should be working on Very High (and it's working).
I don't like stock rom, because of thermal throttling (phone makes warm, and cpu drops to 1100mhz), on Vanir 4.3 (one of Oct nightly) phone is a bit cooler. I was using Kite Kernel (4.3 version of course) ,because of better scores in Benchmarks and slight OC (1620 option), the phone wasn't so hot as in stock. But the 1 Nov 2013 is very great build. On "nuclear" kernel (provided with rom) theoretically phone was slower, there were no OC option, but... framerate is much much stable in games, Gangstar is working now without any lags on very high, and...WOW! the phone is cool (never seen cooler OG), there's no thermal throttling, 1,5ghz all the time
My problem is solved
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you can turn off thermal...
in settings by call service number

2nd Sky said:
you can turn off thermal...
in settings by call service number
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I have turned thermal off (probably the thermal file is deleted or thoreshold is rised up)...Anyway in the rom that i use, it's not necessary, bucause, my phone doesn't become hot already.

CM10.2 M1 on my aging G Nex is an awesome overhaul !

Been running CM10.2 M1 on my G Nex with 4.3.1 for 3 days now and the experience as a daily driver is FANTASTIC !! It's a complete overhaul for the G Nex with it's aging dual core Ti OMAP and 1 Gb RAM. The customisation and tweakings are stellar, so much so that I've revived my old love for my G Nex. Perhasp, I've started to neglet my brand new Nexus 5 as it has been sitting on my desk, powered off for 3 days already. lol...
The N5 is a monster when it comes to performance, nothing can touch it ! Even the fluidity of the CM10.2 on my G Nex is no match. But the customisability of the mod is what wins my heart. Not going to root my N5 anytime soon as it's still brand new as hell hehehe...
Have any of you guys felt the same as me ?

kensim781 said:
Been running CM10.2 M1 on my G Nex with 4.3.1 for 3 days now and the experience as a daily driver is FANTASTIC !! It's a complete overhaul for the G Nex with it's aging dual core Ti OMAP and 1 Gb RAM. The customisation and tweakings are stellar, so much so that I've revived my old love for my G Nex. Perhasp, I've started to neglet my brand new Nexus 5 as it has been sitting on my desk, powered off for 3 days already. lol...
The N5 is a monster when it comes to performance, nothing can touch it ! Even the fluidity of the CM10.2 on my G Nex is no match. But the customisability of the mod is what wins my heart. Not going to root my N5 anytime soon as it's still brand new as hell hehehe...
Have any of you guys felt the same as me ?
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Of course the Nexus 5 feels/is faster.
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kensim781 said:
Been running CM10.2 M1 on my G Nex with 4.3.1 for 3 days now and the experience as a daily driver is FANTASTIC !! It's a complete overhaul for the G Nex with it's aging dual core Ti OMAP and 1 Gb RAM. The customisation and tweakings are stellar, so much so that I've revived my old love for my G Nex. Perhasp, I've started to neglet my brand new Nexus 5 as it has been sitting on my desk, powered off for 3 days already. lol...
The N5 is a monster when it comes to performance, nothing can touch it ! Even the fluidity of the CM10.2 on my G Nex is no match. But the customisability of the mod is what wins my heart. Not going to root my N5 anytime soon as it's still brand new as hell hehehe...
Have any of you guys felt the same as me ?
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And?

Btw what speed and did you guys set for the CPU, mine is 700 - 1200 mhz, Interactive. Not sure is it a good choice ?
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kensim781 said:
Btw what speed and did you guys set for the CPU, mine is 700 - 1200 mhz, Interactive. Not sure is it a good choice ?
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700 is very high. I bet your battery wont last long. Mine is 192-1228
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mrgnex said:
700 is very high. I bet your battery wont last long. Mine is 192-1228
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Will try 192 out...
I've always had mines set on 384-1228, it's what the ROM came with.
BTW
In trickster mod under "max screen off" its set to 576, will that also be okay to set to 192?

There's issues with 192mhz
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Mach3.2 said:
There's issues with 192mhz
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What specifically are your issues?
Cause when I first set it to 192 the battery section under settings wasn't displaying correctly, but a simple reboot fixed that issue.
Running 4.1.2 PA ROM, zen 10 kernel.
Also previously CPU governor was set to interactiveX and I noticed a some lag/delay in certain apps but then(now) set it to performance and no lag more.
To early to tell if battery life has improved.

isajoo said:
What specifically are your issues?
Cause when I first set it to 192 the battery section under settings wasn't displaying correctly, but a simple reboot fixed that issue.
Running 4.1.2 PA ROM, zen 10 kernel.
Also previously CPU governor was set to interactiveX and I noticed a some lag/delay in certain apps but then(now) set it to performance and no lag more.
To early to tell if battery life has improved.
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It's something about losing mobile data iirc, it's been ages since anyone last talked about it. It dates back to the late ICS era I think..
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Mach3.2 said:
It's something about losing mobile data iirc, it's been ages since anyone last talked about it. It dates back to the late ICS era I think..
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Looks like your right, cause before push email notifications worked fine, even with the screen off and now it seems to be broken.
Will be back to confirm after restoring an older backup of ROM.
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Push email seems to be working again even with 192.
LOL

Snappy enough?

Got hold a 2013 model (16GB/WIFI), I've put Purity ROM which I believe is running stock kernel. I must admit, I was expecting it to be a little bit snappier, not sure if I am being too harsh on it, having used a Nexus 5 every day since release day. I've uploaded a quick video, does it look about right?

Looks fine to me. What is the problem?

t0p8uzz said:
Got hold a 2013 model (16GB/WIFI), I've put Purity ROM which I believe is running stock kernel. I must admit, I was expecting it to be a little bit snappier, not sure if I am being too harsh on it, having used a Nexus 5 every day since release day. I've uploaded a quick video, does it look about right?
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Looks fine to me. You can try cutting back on the animations a bit or adding a custom kernel like ElementalX if you want a bit of a boost.
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LinearEquation said:
Looks fine to me. You can try cutting back on the animations a bit or adding a custom kernel like ElementalX if you want a bit of a boost.
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How can I cut back on the animation properly? When i dropped the transitions to .5 in dev mode, my screen went mental and start going red etc

Keep in mind that the Nexus 5 is a different processor. The N5 has a Snapdragon 800 while the N7.2 has a Snapdragon 600.
But aside from that...the tab is moving just fine.

AarSyl said:
Keep in mind that the Nexus 5 is a different processor. The N5 has a Snapdragon 800 while the N7.2 has a Snapdragon 600.
But aside from that...the tab is moving just fine.
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The CPU difference should not to be seen from the video as it is only showing the UI and app opening experiences. During those times, mostly either the CPU is jumping what's most close higher to 800MHz or GPU is kicking one step up. Either way, running some UI elements or opening app animations on 60 FPS is not forcing neither of the Socs to their max frequencies (I am talking about Snapdragon S600 and S800).
I have watched the video very carefully under different resolutions to make sure of the snappiness. The only part that seems like under 30 FPS is where "app drawer" is called. But that's only because it's a bad animation trick. The best way to make sure the UI is running at (or above) 60FPS is to see how "recent apps" are fading away when "clear recents" button is pressed or scroll up and down thgouth mails (SMSs if it's a phone).
And also enabling "force GPU rendering" and "sdisable hardware overlays" options under develper options will certainly help.

Yeah, seems about right, you can probably get some more snap out of it by using a kernel that will let you boost the clock a bit. The N7 can at least be boosted to 1.7ghz without even trying, and 2.0 is not unheard of.

Thanks for the confirmation fellas ...