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I've noticed there are quite a few rumors reporting that verizon will carry the phone in-store. Have there been any similar leaks/rumors regarding ATT carrying the phone?
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I've noticed there are quite a few rumors reporting that verizon will carry the phone in-store. Have there been any similar leaks/rumors regarding ATT carrying the phone?
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No. But Google will let you finance their hugely expensive phone like a car.
http://pocketnow.com/2016/09/19/google-pixel-pricing-verizon-rumors
For the first time on a first-party smartphone release, the Google Store will offer financing for these not-affordables in select markets. A year-long warranty extension will be available as well as accidental insurance is available at the price of $99 for the Pixel and $119 for the Pixel XL — the Nexus Protect program offers similar protections.
If you want to get your phone from a physical store, rumors are holding up Verizon to be the exclusive retail partner for Pixel carriage. There will supposedly be three colors, but none of them are technically white — the closest we get is an aluminium shade, followed by a shiny, bright blue and black.
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Ugh, not Verizon. Please at least have T-Mobile.
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No. But Google will let you finance their hugely expensive phone like a car.
http://pocketnow.com/2016/09/19/google-pixel-pricing-verizon-rumors
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im guessing verizon only or unlocked all carriers entire world only
I'm increasingly wondering if the entire point of Next is to provide a financing program for Samsung and Apple. That's about all that AT&T carries on the program these days, though I think you can still get some older model HTC devices and a few LG devices. They all start on page 3...
EDIT: It's confirmed. Pixels will be a Verizon exclusive, so no-go on Next - at least initially. On the plus side, my bill will be lower for a while.
Has anyone received their replacement handset from Samsung??? the reason I ask this, is I spoke to Samsung just over a week ago and went for the S7edge option and nothing has arrived so I rang just now and was told it will take another 4-5 weeks until I receive it as they need word from their warehouse first .......this is a disgusting way to treat Note 7 customers....this was Samsung Australia
So what do they aspect you to do in the mean time
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So what do they aspect you to do in the mean time
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The consultant I spoke too, told me I have to wait
I received my replacement on 10th Oct, but, I called samsung today, and they tell me that no more support for note7, since it is officially discontinued, and that they will deactivate them in 2 weeks..... at least in Mexico, I am very sad, There is no other phone that I like, The S7 is fine, but in a short time there will be the new S8, so, I am at a loss
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I received my replacement on 10th Oct, but, I called samsung today, and they tell me that no more support for note7, since it is officially discontinued, and that they will deactivate them in 2 weeks..... at least in Mexico, I am very sad, There is no other phone that I like, The S7 is fine, but in a short time there will be the new S8, so, I am at a loss
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You spoke to someone at Samsung and you were told they plan to deactivate them in the next 2 weeks, is that correct? That's what you were told?
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You spoke to someone at Samsung and you were told they plan to deactivate them in the next 2 weeks, is that correct? That's what you were told?
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One can only HOPE, right?!?
received mine on October 10 n now i'm waiting for a refund so i can get the V20.
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Has anyone received their replacement handset from Samsung??? the reason I ask this, is I spoke to Samsung just over a week ago and went for the S7edge option and nothing has arrived so I rang just now and was told it will take another 4-5 weeks until I receive it as they need word from their warehouse first .......this is a disgusting way to treat Note 7 customers....this was Samsung Australia
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That is totally unacceptable. You MUST not tolerate this sort of attitude. I suggest you seek free legal help through one of your countries consumer protection agencies. Samsung have a glut of S7's and considering the media and attitude shown to Note 7 owners I would expect Samsung to be bending over backwards to maintain customers not causing them further grief by messing them about replacing what has been their ****-up.
Clearly Samsung Korea is NOT enforcing its will on the local country wide importers. My Samsung head office here is just incredible. I refuse to let them put me off Samsung but its bloody hard work! I don't want to cut my nose of to spite my face. Samsung need to get their global house in order and fast.
Do not accept this behaviour under any circumstances. Keep us posted how you progress. :good:
Ryland
PS. Every time you contact Samsung get the name of the person you speak to and make notes. It is also a very good idea to start writing letters to Samsung and send them recorded delivery. Phone calls can be denied letters are a solid proof of contact when sent by recorded mail. ALWAYS ask to speak to a manager when you call your local Samsung importer, again get their name.
Sounds like it's just less cumbersome to get a refund than to bother with the S7.
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Sounds like it's just less cumbersome to get a refund than to bother with the S7.
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I agree 100% but others may well want the S7 or cannot change contracts etc? I am learning here it is complicated for some for a variety of reasons.
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I started a thread awhile back. I have not received my s7 edge replacement yet. I ordered it on the 13th. Says it will ship in 2-3 business days. I haven't received any order or shipping confirmation. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3479656
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I just came back from my carrier office, there I talked with te manager, and told me that I can use my note 7, without worrying about blocking or dissabling, in Mexico, as no government instructions to do such, And that the warranty will be kept as normal, in that event, replacement with other model would be the remedy, and, that I can go for replacement for other model at any time within the warranty period if no longer want the note, I am satisfied with this, even though many will say that it is dangerous, But, in my experience, I have had other devices with similar problems so, I am not overly scared
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I agree 100% but others may well want the S7 or cannot change contracts etc? I am learning here it is complicated for some for a variety of reasons.
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Here in Singapore, Samsung SG is only offering an exchange for the S7 Edge with SGD$250 (approx. USD$178) or a full retail refund of SGD$1168. That's roughly US$835.
Unless you're a true diehard or the S7 Edge appeals to you, the full refund makes more sense. If I took the S7 Edge and sold it to a shop, it doesn't match the value of the Note 7 refund.
So now with the full refund, I can go ahead and purchase the upcoming LG V20 and still have some spare cash for a pre-owned Note 4 for my mom.
Worth noting, all phones here are unlocked. So the carriers are not involved in the exchange or refund programme. This is entirely with Samsung.
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Here in Singapore, Samsung SG is only offering an exchange for the S7 Edge with SGD$250 (approx. USD$178) or a full retail refund of SGD$1168. That's roughly US$835.
Unless you're a true diehard or the S7 Edge appeals to you, the full refund makes more sense. If I took the S7 Edge and sold it to a shop, it doesn't match the value of the Note 7 refund.
So now with the full refund, I can go ahead and purchase the upcoming LG V20 and still have some spare cash for a pre-owned Note 4 for my mom.
Worth noting, all phones here are unlocked. So the carriers are not involved in the exchange or refund programme. This is entirely with Samsung.
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I also went for a refund. Bought a Samsung Galaxy A5 2016 as my second mobile and will save the cash until march when the new series is available. I cannot find a replacement for the Note 7 so I have put myself on a diet of self control until March.
Ryland
I got my replacement oct 15, but then less than a week later I get a call saying there has been a second recall and that my options were to either get a full refund or exchange with s7 edge (with the difference being paid via check). either way, I still have to go back to the store at least twice. first to return the note 7 and second to get the check (either for the full refund or for price difference between s7 edge and note 7). they say check processing will take around 3 days
this week I got another call saying I can now drop by anytime between now and Nov 17 to either replace or refund (they didn't specify exactly if the s7 edge is available right away but from my understanding of our conversation it should be replaced right away just like the first recall when I dropped by)
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I also went for a refund. Bought a Samsung Galaxy A5 2016 as my second mobile and will save the cash until march when the new series is available. I cannot find a replacement for the Note 7 so I have put myself on a diet of self control until March.
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So which is your first mobile now?
Yes i got my iPhone 7 plus
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Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge plus. Very good mobile. If I wasn't a techno junkie I would keep it for several years. I have only one reason to change it and that's because I now need the S-pen again. I have taken a look at the Note 4 BUT it's silly money for a three year old mobile. Can't get the Note 5 here in Europe.
The SG A5 2016 is a very VERY nice mobile, superbly crafted in fact one cant tell the difference in quality between the A5 and the Note 7. Function wise they are, of course, chalk and cheese.
Ryland
Recieved the S7 edge today and I will send it back. It's nothing like the note 7. Old ui. Less memory aso.
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Ryland Johnson said:
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge plus. Very good mobile. If I wasn't a techno junkie I would keep it for several years. I have only one reason to change it and that's because I now need the S-pen again. I have taken a look at the Note 4 BUT it's silly money for a three year old mobile. Can't get the Note 5 here in Europe.
The SG A5 2016 is a very VERY nice mobile, superbly crafted in fact one cant tell the difference in quality between the A5 and the Note 7. Function wise they are, of course, chalk and cheese.
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Funny thing, the Note 7 S Pen works on the Note 4. Guess I'll be confiscating that before I seek my refund.
Well, help me clear my thinking. Love the v30 but sad the t mobile variant will not be bootloader unlocked. So looking at the specs the new Galaxy S9 unlocked has all the lte bands as the iPhone, it is supposed to support band 71. I want an unlocked phone because I am moving to an area where TMobile does not currently have good service, but band 71 is coming. So should I get the s9 or go back to an iPhone when it is released. We don't yet know if the v30 unlocked supports band 71.
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Well, help me clear my thinking. Love the v30 but sad the t mobile variant will not be bootloader unlocked. So looking at the specs the new Galaxy S9 unlocked has all the lte bands as the iPhone, it is supposed to support band 71. I want an unlocked phone because I am moving to an area where TMobile does not currently have good service, but band 71 is coming. So should I get the s9 or go back to an iPhone when it is released. We don't yet know if the v30 unlocked supports band 71.
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I'm not sure why you are even mentioning an iPhone?
1) It's sure not bootloader unlocked.
2) And it doesn't have band 71. No iPhone before next September will have band 71, will it? (Normally that's when Apple releases new phones.)
By next September (7 months from now) there will be plenty of flagship Android phones with LTE band 71. You don't have to stoop to an iPhone. Ever.
Also, are you confusing bootloader unlock with carrier unlocked? Because you're throwing the terms around, almost interchangeably.
Tell me what you mean by S9 Unlocked? Are you talking about Exynos variant which has bootloader unlock? Or are you talking about S9 directly from Samsung which is carrier unlocked or S9 from a 3rd party where the seller has carrier unlocked the phone?
Right NOW, you can buy the T-Mobile V30 H932 V30 or V30+ and get it carrier unlocked for other networks. BOOM. You still have LTE band 71 if you ever need it. If you were considering paying full price for Galaxy S9, why don't you also consider that?
Posted via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
The Samsung 9 intrigues me. Subtle, but positive changes. The thicker glass will make it more resistant, but I'm wondering if it still will be as easy to scratch as the S8, (and anything with the Gorilla 5 glass). The aluminum band around the glass will also be tougher. Good improvements with the camera and camera software. I just wish they would enhance the 3.5 jack with a decent DAC and do something useful with Bixby and the Bixby button.
As far as the iPhone, I was a long time iPhone user. Still have a Mac Pro and an iPad Pro. Back in the day, Apple put out very good phone products, and iTunes kept everything well organized and easy to use. Unfortunately... those days appear to be over. The last iPhone that I bought was the 6 Plus. Since, I can not bring myself to plop down the money to buy the last few iterations. The 7 Plus had some incremental improvements, but taking out the 3.5 jack was an absolute no go with me. I spend considerable time and money continuously improving my music from source to output. And I am fortunate enough to be able to pick up the nuances in recordings and final engineered products. And as convenient as BT is, it is nowhere near the same fidelity quality than a properly engineered song, through a decent DAC, and out to a proper pair of wired headphones. The last product that Apple put out as an iPhone is just plain and simple, a money grab. The best feature is FaceID, which I have no confidence in using for anything other than a gimmicky way of unlocking the phone. And according to some of my closest friends, I don't need smart emoji to be a walking, talking pile of s**t... so... And don't get me started with that abhorrent notch, not to mention the insulting price. Apple is basically selling $370 worth of parts and labor at $999, and pocketing a HUGE profit. iTunes is now an incredible mess, and they are discontinuing support for music that we own in favor of streaming so that they can, again, charge an arm and a leg for services. Basically, Apple has become a 'profit above all else' company. A marketing and hype machine that sells mid level technology, mostly developed by other entities, at premium prices, for no other reason that it has an apple logo on it.
So... for now, I am happy with my LG V30. I have everything I need with this phone. When the time comes to replace it, I will be taking a long hard look at the other options. And there are lots of options available ... Pixel, Samsung, LG... to name a few. But a Cupertino designed, Chinese built product, under the current management, will most likely not be in my plans.
Not to mention, everything Apple does lately, seems to have Google or Android written all over it. For example, iCloud is in-fact storage supplied by Google. I myself am watching the ecosystems. I do like the V30. Never had a Pixel...never liked iPhones because of their heavy handed rule!
I think Google's Pixel will benefit greatly from its association with LG. Apple should not be the only beneficiary of LG's research and development. LG puts out very good hardware. The problem with LG is that they don't support that great hardware with great software. Yes, the software that they provide has features, but the fundamental implementation to support the hardware is lacking at this point in time. Their camera and DAC/Amp are a perfect example... The camera software is very aggressive in its processing, and their native music player leaves a lot to be desired in terms of functionality. Additionally, their marketing and sales strategy are the anti Apple/Samsung. They really make it hard for their base clients to get their products as they are being initially released, specially unlocked phones. They literally had their clients looking at other phones because the LG V30 was not available in certain major markets, so consumers were opting for a Samsung or Pixel2. Part of this may be carrier business driven, but if this is the case, its not helping them at all. There are no initial advantages to buying a phone through a carrier. You are not getting a discount, for the most part, from the major phones. The carriers are simply spreading the cost of the phone over a 24 month period, and locking you in into their contract. And consumers are increasingly wanting a level of independence from the major carriers.
IMO, a Google Pixel/LG partnership would greatly benefit both parties. Both can learn and profit from such an association.
Hello,
Anyone find any testing comparing Tensors inferior last year's modem to current competition?
Thanks
I've never fully understood the benefits of 5g for cell phones. If I can get 200 Mbps down and 50 Mbps up on 4g, what are the benefits of 5g? And, regarding a year-old vs current-year modem, why would that matter?
1st gen vs 2nd gen modem from Qualcomm is about twice the difference from certain reviewers.
Qualcomm modem better than Samsung which is why Exynos this year uses Qualcomm modem. But Google chose the Samsung modem from last year instead. Just because it is not Qualcomm probably.
So makes a huge difference.
To you may not matter. To me if I am paying 900$ for a year old tech that is singificantly inferior, and considering this is a phone and the modem is terrible compared to competition, matters to me. Just another way Google continues to give the finger to Pixel users every year they find a way to do that. If this is the case.
I just like knowing when Google will start to treat Pixel users same level of respect as Samsung with their fans.
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1st gen vs 2nd gen modem from Qualcomm is about twice the difference from certain reviewers.
Qualcomm modem better than Samsung which is why Exynos this year uses Qualcomm modem. But Google chose the Samsung modem from last year instead. Just because it is not Qualcomm probably.
So makes a huge difference.
To you may not matter. To me if I am paying 900$ for a year old tech that is singificantly inferior, and considering this is a phone and the modem is terrible compared to competition, matters to me. Just another way Google continues to give the finger to Pixel users every year they find a way to do that. If this is the case.
I just like knowing when Google will start to treat Pixel users same level of respect as Samsung with their fans.
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dont forget it also doesnt have the samsung price
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dont forget it also doesnt have the samsung price
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Does that matter and why? $900 for tech already outdated by a year... I can understand if budget phone. $900 is not a budget device.
Sounds like they skipped out on others like inferior panel as well. So it definitely seems Pixel once again is a gimmick phone. And their fans will defend it because of it's gimmicks without acknowledging once again its a phone with pricetags not backed by haddwarw but camera software gimmicks.
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Does that matter and why? $900 for tech already outdated by a year... I can understand if budget phone. $900 is not a budget device.
Sounds like they skipped out on others like inferior panel as well. So it definitely seems Pixel once again is a gimmick phone. And their fans will defend it because of it's gimmicks without acknowledging once again its a phone with pricetags not backed by haddwarw but camera software gimmicks.
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I have never had a pixel device, but I can still say it's an amazing deal. You're someone who expects an exact $1200 Samsung clone for $900. You're either a troll or shallow, no body likes either of those things.
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Does that matter and why? $900 for tech already outdated by a year... I can understand if budget phone. $900 is not a budget device.
Sounds like they skipped out on others like inferior panel as well. So it definitely seems Pixel once again is a gimmick phone. And their fans will defend it because of it's gimmicks without acknowledging once again its a phone with pricetags not backed by haddwarw but camera software gimmicks.
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Agree for the most part. We can't forget these are cell phones. And I for one expect the best coverage and speeds here for a 2021 flagship. After using a phone for a certain amount of time, they are still just a dang phone.
Things like 5G modems are very much at the centre of the chip shortage which could have had an impact on what Google could guarantee through the supply chain and hence they had to go with that.
Just curious, how is it last year's modem if it has wifi 6e
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1st gen vs 2nd gen modem from Qualcomm is about twice the difference from certain reviewers.
Qualcomm modem better than Samsung which is why Exynos this year uses Qualcomm modem. But Google chose the Samsung modem from last year instead. Just because it is not Qualcomm probably.
So makes a huge difference.
To you may not matter. To me if I am paying 900$ for a year old tech that is singificantly inferior, and considering this is a phone and the modem is terrible compared to competition, matters to me. Just another way Google continues to give the finger to Pixel users every year they find a way to do that. If this is the case.
I just like knowing when Google will start to treat Pixel users same level of respect as Samsung with their fans.
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Ok, but that still doesn't explain what would make a newer modem better...? Given how fast 4g is, what tangible benefit (other than saying "I have the newest therefore best") would the newer modem potentially offer?
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Does that matter and why? $900 for tech already outdated by a year... I can understand if budget phone. $900 is not a budget device.
Sounds like they skipped out on others like inferior panel as well. So it definitely seems Pixel once again is a gimmick phone. And their fans will defend it because of it's gimmicks without acknowledging once again its a phone with pricetags not backed by haddwarw but camera software gimmicks.
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In order to get the new technology it would cost more then 900. Sounds like you are trying to compare apples with oranges. If you want the newest tech, then you pay for it. If you think samsung is the greatest, why consider pixel?
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I've never fully understood the benefits of 5g for cell phones. If I can get 200 Mbps down and 50 Mbps up on 4g, what are the benefits of 5g? And, regarding a year-old vs current-year modem, why would that matter?
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Density. That's your answer. I used to work in one of those financial districts packed with skyscrapers. During working hours, people density in that area is about 200,000 per square kilometer if not more. 4G has full bars and download speed is miserable 2-3 Mbps. That's outside. Literally 200 meters away from that area I'm getting 150 Mbps.
Think about it, that area has all the money in the world and they can't get a decent mobile broadband speed. So they have invented 5G for areas like that, stadiums, etc. Not some rural farms.
Does anyone know what modem them s21U Exynos uses? Hoping it's not too much of a speed downgrade with the P6P.
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I've never fully understood the benefits of 5g for cell phones. If I can get 200 Mbps down and 50 Mbps up on 4g, what are the benefits of 5g? And, regarding a year-old vs current-year modem, why would that matter?
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Capacity, 5G has so much more capacity per cell site. Ever been in a crowded placed with monstrous 4G signal but absolutely nothing is happening when you want to do something, well 5G all but eliminates that.
I am not at all technical when it comes to 5G, chips, modems, etc. I recently read a piece in some tech journal that spoke about 5G connectivity and speed differences in the Pixel Pro as between carrier versions (ATT and Verizon) and unlocked. I think it was referring to the modem differences as well. I couldn't make heads or tails of it and couldn't figure out what conclusions the writer was coming to. Are there substantive modem, connectivity etc. issues between the different versions of the Pixel 6 Pro?
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I am not at all technical when it comes to 5G, chips, modems, etc. I recently read a piece in some tech journal that spoke about 5G connectivity and speed differences in the Pixel Pro as between carrier versions (ATT and Verizon) and unlocked. I think it was referring to the modem differences as well. I couldn't make heads or tails of it and couldn't figure out what conclusions the writer was coming to. Are there substantive modem, connectivity etc. issues between the different versions of the Pixel 6 Pro?
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Keeping it simple, there are two kinds of 5G. Let's call them regular and mm-wave. mm-wave is only good for folks who happen to be in the right place, within a very short distance to a mm-wave cell tower. Since there are so few places in the United States that have mm-wave, chances are that you won't miss anything no matter what.
All the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro have regular 5G. There are some advantages of regular 5G over 4G, however, you likely won't experience as much difference as there was between 4G and 3G. I haven't been concerned with 5G at all yet.
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Keeping it simple, there are two kinds of 5G. Let's call them regular and mm-wave. mm-wave is only good for folks who happen to be in the right place, within a very short distance to a mm-wave cell tower. Since there are so few places in the United States that have mm-wave, chances are that you won't miss anything no matter what.
All the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro have regular 5G. There are some advantages of regular 5G over 4G, however, you likely won't experience as much difference as there was between 4G and 3G. I haven't been concerned with 5G at all yet.
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Thanks for your explanation. That article I read made the point that some versions of the Pixel have mm-wave and some don't. I couldn't tell which did, and if it was important to have it. From your comment I'm not going to be concerned about getting a version that has it.
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Thanks for your explanation. That article I read made the point that some versions of the Pixel have mm-wave and some don't. I couldn't tell which did, and if it was important to have it. From your comment I'm not going to be concerned about getting a version that has it.
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Here's the link that list the carrier compatibility with 5G.
FYI.. Pixel 6 Pro have both sub-6 and mmWave. Pixel 6 lacks mmWave. But it's available on Verizon model of Pixel 6. But you end up paying extra $100.
Pixel Phone Simulator
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Another thing that I found out from the table is that, most of the countries on that list uses only Sub-6 standard of 5G except for USA and Australia.
I'm currently using my P6P on Google Fi (which is essentially T-Mobile) and my P6 on Verizon
It's interesting that on P6P (Google Fi 5G) my current speeds are 490/9ish and my P6 on Verizon is only pulling 31ish/2.5ish. I'm truly interested now if it's in regards to the phone model or my service providers. I'm going to run a few test and play around with this!
If anyone wants to see the speed results I can upload those as well! But overall data speeds and consistency has been amazing on the P6P/P6
They could have left mmWave off and dropped the price another £50 as far as i am concerned. I see over 500Mbit regularly on my Sub-6 only Pixel 5.
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Migliaccio & Rathod LLP is currently investigating Samsung smartphones for advertising e-SIM functionality without providing the advertised functionality. e-SIM is an attractive prospect for buyers who would like to cut down their use of two phones to one because a phone that supports e-SIM...
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This thing won't go far and is more of a Money grab for the layers that helping us.
If you LOOK at their marketing and terms, you will see:
"eSIM availability may vary depending on software version, country and carrier. Check with your carrier if your mobile network plan supports eSIM.”
There is no mention as to where e-SIM is supported and no promises as to it being available as it is OUT OF SAMSUNG'S HANDS...
It's THERE and Sammy has it available, but CARRIERS decide which phones they will support, so this is suing the WRONG people.
Anyway, just my 2 cents (I used to work for AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint Corporate as one of their top Technical people when I was there and dealt with a LOT of this kind of stuff and have friends that still work there. eSIM IS on the devices AS PROMISED, it's up to the CARRIERS.
WE ALL KNOW they support it as it's on several Android devices and iPhones, it's a money grab not turning it on, but FOR THE CARRIERS.
By the way: If you have a look at the box, the Fold3 was in, you can see, what Samsung advertises. Here in Europe on every box you have two IMEI numbers for the two SIM cards and one EID for the eSIM. If your box doesn't show an EID, your Fold3 has no eSIM support.
As mentioned in another thread: Buyers should tell sellers, that they don't buy Fold3 because of the lack of eSIM. Then something might change ...
I am sent letters from US lawyers almost weekly about some class action lawsuit I could opt in. In the past, I spent hours filling out all the legal paper work and gathering all the records they want and sending it back to the lawyer. Then wait years!
Then I would receive my share of the settlement. A discount coupon from the manufacturer for a few dollars off my next purchase from them that was had a limited time to use and for limited products. So if I used them, I would get like 5 cents per hours for my time filling out all the forms and documentation they required. But I never used any of them as I did not want to deal with that manufacturer ever again.
And many times, the companies fight the lawsuits and hope you die before they settle or the case comes to court. So you never receive anything, including the worthless discounts that you won't use.
Meanwhile, the lawyer made millions in fees.
I wish something could be done about this false advertising. On the Canadian version of Samsungs website, this is still being advertised:
SIM Slot Type
SIM 1 + Embedded SIM
How do they get away with this crap because it isn't true!!
I sued Samsung over false advertising and misrepresentation of eSIM....and won
https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/lttggm
Can't always trust specs or reviews. Best to wait a few months or longer for the dust to settle before buying. Otherwise it's partially just luck of the draw.
File a FTC complaint. If they get enough complaints they will investigate. The FTC can hand down stiff fines and penalties.
Must be local market specific issue. I've been using the esim even before the Android 12 update on Fold 3. This is an Indian version. I even tried 2 physical sims and one esim, that disables one of the physical sims. You can manually choose which 2 or the 3 sims you want to keep active at a time.